In the meantime manager will lose his reputation too. So i don't think that any well reputated manager will love to manage any fraudulent platforms signature campaign.
No no, you misunderstood me. I'm talking about the impact of the signature campaign on the credibility of a platform, if it's a scam platform, there's no impact here. They even not make a single comment on the scam assumption for more than 1 year.
They had here First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
Both case is different. BestChange was criticized due to escrow find and we told we should have remove tag when they will pay accordingly. Regarding other accusations they are friendly enough to solve them. But BETNOMI used fake team and they was failed to provide appropriate evidence to proof their legitimacy. So either they run signature campaign or not the fact will never change. I have doubts that any reputed manager will handle their campaign and probably DT members will prevent them to run campaign is they like to run by themselves. Also I believe theymos wouldn't accept their auction if they like to use forum banner ads as well.
We meet in this thought ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The signature campaign will never work for a phishing campaign, the case he gave is asymmetric to compare.
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In certain cases, signature campaigns can turn things around. For example, Bestchange was criticized heavily initially and had many neg ratings, but they turned that around in a short period thanks to their own hard work and dedication. I doubt the same will happen in this case though.
No, it is not. May I digress. You are misunderstanding. The case of Bestchange is different. I have asked about Bestchange before, they are a reputable website that has operated for a long time, not a new platform. The Bestchange issue revolves around their russian website with a similar domain. This sparked suspicion, after which it was resolved and most of the negative beliefs were removed. Bestchange is reputable + an extensive signature campaign, so it was interested. The signature campaign will have no impact if the platform is fraudulent, such as Kawbet and 1xbet.
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I support your flag for an obvious reason. They are not safe to join now. Until they can do anything to prove they are clean, this flag should be supported. We can delete the flag if they can prove it.
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So the team decided to ask u to help them to verification all the data from them. I few questions for you, did you have the ability to make due diligence: - Checking license gambling.
- The legality of the company
- And other all forms of requirements regarding gambling & casino legality.
I asking this question, based on your activity with "Last Thread Created" by you. I don't see a single thread/experience, busted a scam project that's why it's kinda worrying you can't really check the authenticity of the legality. I mean we all know their slogan about "Decentralized Betting Casino" is not really decentralized since they still handle all money of the customer like winning and withdrawal also they need KYC too. If they want to do it a gambling system same like their slogan, sure they making a smart contract betting went all betting running automatically on the smart contract. No, I just received a message, they said they could provide any evidence I need to prove that their platform is good. I told them to post them here, so I came here to give the information I had, and waited for their documents. I do not help them in any way. I just do what I should do - request public information here. In terms of decentralization and KYC, I think someone has asked to remove that information above, I think it is not difficult to edit the title. So why gamblers should choose your platform since there is lots of legit platforms exist?
I cannot answer your question but I have another question. If everyone is focused on the big casinos then who will be the customers for the new casinos? (I'm talking about the real casinos). The search for new casinos is also a good idea, because it gives new casinos the opportunity to compete and thrive, of course new casinos also need something special to compete.
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I was reading through the post to understand why you call yours "truly decentralized" but found nothing. How about Provable fair by the way? You didn't mention that and I assume a truly decentralized betting platform should have it. What does "coefficient" in the game mean?
No offense guys,,, but a truly decentralized operation does not have an operator. I would say it is almost impossible to obtain truly decentralized, so maybe you have to consider different ways to say it! Not to say we cannot have a successful platform that is semi-decentralized;)
Guys, can we please talk about that topic after the most important issue is solved? "Is this platform decentralized?", should it be a question posed after we prove its security? I suppose this platform is a scam, your question will be pointless, a phishing site doesn't matter if it's really decentralized or not. Therefore, we need to know what should be prioritized, do not off topic ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) The biggest priority right now is their reputation
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At the very beginning, ill be in need of a devoted technician guy who has the experience of building an otc website. He should have good knowledge of blockchain wallets (like BTC ETH USDT LTC..) construction and safety maintenance. Know how to safely run an OTC website by using the hot wallet and cold-storage wallet. What have you done before? Any skills or cases to tell me? I'm ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) looking to talk to you. Well, a bit unfortunate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I just learned about programming this year and I really don't have much knowledge or skills yet ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Certainly I cannot stand for that position of yours ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It will take a very long time for me to have the skills and experience to work for your website. This opportunity is for another person, this forum has a lot of talented people, just wait, they will be here with you soon.
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Now that the first round is wrapped up, what do you all think about continuing? The pace was pretty slow, I am not sure another round will be filled. I would like to hear your opinions on the matter. Thanks again for donating!
Yes, the pace is very slow, there are many people who contribute but not many people come here to participate in this program ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Moreover, I didn't see Bruno working last week, there was no one to confirm that he was okay. I really don't know how we can continue to support him. I think we should pause until there is any other news.
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First of all, this account is over a year now. We are not trying to hide behind anything. Admittedly. we had some issues with our account in the past. A fake person will create a new identity to start something else but no, we are real and legit. We are sticking to our account and identity and we will correct all previous issues we had in the past. We learned from those experience and we are trying to do something better and useful as you can see.
I tend to agree with you on it, so let's do your best to prove the security of your platform ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Negative feedback in the past cannot be deleted, you should bring it and work, as long as you are good, those things will be ignored in the future. skip
A crypto-based betting platform should not require too much information. It should be minimalist, the missing information is user name, password, email and numberphone. Please ignore all remaining information if you can. Address of residence is information that no one wants to provide. It must be removed ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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I have received a message from Betnomi with the desire to prove their legitimacy and security in their platform. And I have asked them to submit all their documents here. We will wait and see if they have anything to prove it. I still won't trust them until there is any evidence to back it up. I hope no one wastes any money on their platform before everything is clear ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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Access is still stable In the mean time, we will work with one of the most trusted people in the forum to put some funds in escrow as a guarantee if that makes you guys feel any better.
Escrow is good for everyone, but you need to specify, what purpose for it. Escrow for the operation of the platform or escrow for the campaign you are about to organize. Its a requirement from the authorities that issue the casino/gaming license but, we are working closely with them to remove this requirement or at least reduce the required personal information.
Please also provide information about that authorities.
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Stay away from this site and usersThis guy has been accused of fraud with a fake project, fake team and more, check out his trust about the evidence of fraud. With a site like this, I believe people will be at a high risk of losing money if they make any transactions. The site looks nice but it is deceptive, careful. Don't waste any of your money here ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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My question may be silly, but how do you know that? I can see that it is the addresses of some wallets like Coinbase or similar. But how did you know that it was the address of the wallet above? I have looked a bit at the addresses of Bestchange members, and I got this address: 3M4QssVzxqTTf9tZVYqX14wHT8sLCp6zXQ, it's similar to the 3 addresses above, the time of receiving money is the same, but its output is different. I still think that the 3 addresses above are related. Where am I wrong?
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Possibly. But usually that happens with bounty spammers who spam millions of Facebook and Twitter links for some worthless tokens. Honestly, I gave up caring if they "cheat" the campaign that produces so much spam and only wants to sell their worthless tokens.
It is the general condition of all altcoin projects ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I was very interested in altcoins in 2017 and before, but after participating in a series of bullshit projects, I ignored all of them ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) If I remember correctly, I have more than 50 shit coins in my wallet, 5% of them are valuable on the exchanges, but the prices are very low. The rest are just meaningless symbols ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) But undoubtedly fraudulent projects continue to exist now and in the future, spammers will still be there to help them advertise their project by spamming ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I see, this could be because of my custom trust list, I excluded someone in DT, so trusted feedback didn't show me ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Anyway, now OP should be banned once more based on what YOSHIE has to give here This user approached me on my telegram and was asking to help him to remove the tag. I did not look into the account history or anything but saw the tag date and I read it 2017 LOL
Oh wait, are you serious? 2019-11-17 How can you see it is 2017 ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Something makes you hurry ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) It is the 17th, not the year
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No, not this way ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You can't ask someone to eliminate the negative trust they leave in your account, which is impossible. One person has the right to express their opinion to others, eliminating negative beliefs is also their personal opinion, so your request does not seem to be accepted. In addition, I also find that this trust does not matter to your account, it is not a trusted feedback, so don't be too concerned about it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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What a stupid thread. Vod even made 2 of them.
Sorry but I should join this stupid thread for fun Lauda has always reminded me of... a cat.
There are many cat lovers, even crazy about it, that cannot reveal the gender of Lauda Lauda is "he" as far as I am concerned
I also think Lauda is "he" ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I dont have evidence like you, but in the way he speak, I believe I am right about him ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) @Lauda, I join the fun right now about your gender
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If one account signs address A and the other signs address B and then we ever see coins moving from A to B it's a good indication of alt accounts. I'd say that's a good indication of a trade taking place ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) But if they participate regularly in multiple campaigns together and all the received coins are transferred to the same address, is it another good sign? It also says that they cheated, right? I don't tag users based on one of them posting the other's address, and I recommend others not to do it either. I sometimes ask myself: could this be done to my account without my knowledge? If the answer is yes, the evidence is no real evidence and whoever is blamed should get the benefit of the doubt.
I tend to agree with you on this matter ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) considering all the factors that are needed to make the right decision, the connected account is not bad for tagged, but using the connected account for fraud is bad, can't cover up. It's hard to find common ground in this matter ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Can you describe more precisely what you are going to do? Not about ideas but about personnel. Who, what, what positions and roles do your team need ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) What competencies do you need in your team? I'm in Asia, specifically Vietnam, so I can be useful for your team in some areas. I am very interested in startup projects, good for all of us ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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With that in mind, I would be great to have a simple, non-KYC method such as this to quickly turn BTC in to fiat that I can then send to another party. I suspect the biggest flaw here is whether or not the other party will accept any of these payment methods.
If they can provide this service at a low cost, it would be a great service for all of us to have high order quick transactions whenever we need it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) What is the meaning of the other party you want to talk about here? If that's the person you need fiat to trade with, and if he doesn't accept those fiat types, you have no reason to do this with Bitrefill. I believe that there is not any inconvenience from this service, except the exchange rate ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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You said that the last conversation with them was yesterday. can you show me
No, you're the one who said it, it's in your evidence above ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) According to what he says, you just need to be patient and wait ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .....................................................................Tue, 7 Apr at 11:07 pm Dear customer, We’d like to inform you that our security system has detected suspicious activity on your account. In case it was a hacking attempt, we had to temporarily suspend withdrawals from your account – this way your funds will be absolutely safe, and the access will be restored once the verification procedure will be finished.
There’s nothing to worry about – Freewallet will gladly guide you through this standard procedure and will restore the access to your account shortly.
To verify your identity, we’ll need some of your personal information. Please reply ‘Yes’ to this email in order to agree.
In our terms and conditions that every user accepts when setting up an account, you can find out more details about the verification procedure. Also, you can check our privacy policy here.
Rest assured – your funds will remain on your account untouched, and you can always check your balance.
Thank you for your understanding, and we are looking forward to hearing back from you!
............................................................................... ..........Tue, 7 Apr at 11:33 pm
Hello,
Thank you for following up! To proceed with the verification procedure, we ask you to provide the following information: 1) A clear photo of yourself with your identification document in English and a paper where you hand-write our brand name ‘Freewallet’, the current date and the email address you used to verify your account notifications.
2) A clear photo of your identification document in English: an international ID or a driver’s license (both sides). Scanned and cropped images are not accepted
The requested info should be in English. The document must be valid for a minimum of 3 months. Also, please enable 2FA in your account if you still haven’t done so.
Once we receive the required information, we will forward it to our security department for verification. Please note that we might ask you for more information, if necessary. We truly appreciate your collaboration. Please let us know if you have any questions. Best regards, Paul, Support Manager, Freewallet You can send your queries to our Bot in Telegram.
I think you've been in a hurry, they will need a lot of time to consider it ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I believe we have no way to help you based on the descriptions you give here ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) It is partly your fault for using unorthodox wallets. We have always suggested and emphasized that users on this forum should use Electrum as the safest wallet. You didn't do that. Sorry, but I think we can't do anything for you. They do not reply to your messages, all you should do is give up. Sorry about that ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) From now, be extra careful in any future transactions or options.
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