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1121  Economy / Securities / Re: TyGrr-Bot (GLBSE) ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: March 30, 2012, 12:47:07 PM
I'd be interested either purchasing or investing in the bot. What would you consider selling it for?

I would only sell part of it. If you are really interested PM a bid. However I would expect it to be rejected.

Can you describe what part youd be selling and what dollar amount you would value it at?

No, it is not for sale. This is a silly discussion.

At any rate, if that discussion must happen, it's a discussion
worth having with your shareholders through a motion, I think Smiley


I believe they are bondholders, not shareholders.

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We are now selling TyGrr-Bot bonds on GLBSE at the rate of 1BTC for 1 TyGrr-Bot bond

unless you are talking about the 3 actual shareholders that were mentioned earlier.
1122  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE Dividend Returns - updated weekly on: March 30, 2012, 12:45:54 PM
The Cognitive have paid dividend twice since its IPO. the dividend come from the loan service of 1gh/s mining power for the Cognitive before the FPGA boards are arrive and set up.


Those were test dividends and as I stated in the OP that I would not include those.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg816772#msg816772

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=67547.msg821357#msg821357
1123  Economy / Marketplace / Re: List of GLBSE Non-Active/Scam Assets Shares on: March 30, 2012, 09:08:57 AM
Is SATOSHISDAEMON.horse  really available?  Seems the race time has come and passed.
1124  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE Dividend Returns - updated weekly on: March 30, 2012, 09:05:15 AM

Note:  Deviations in dividend returns between listed companies may be due to the percentage of profit returned to shareholders.  Search the forums for information on the specific listed company.  I have not listed companies that have not sent a dividend payment in GLBSE 2.0 or only sent practice dividends.  Weekly dividend amount is the sum of all dividends sent out in the time frame listed.

Could you please remove this week's data of our company (MU) from the main thread? Smiley Because that are exactly practice dividends (for both practice and cleaning up our former funds). We are afraid that it would bring confusion and scare off our potential investors. Thanks very much.

done
1125  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE Dividend Returns - updated weekly on: March 30, 2012, 08:56:16 AM
I made a correction to the table.  Seemed there was a 5 multiplied in there on my spreadsheet that I overlooked.
1126  Economy / Securities / Re: GLBSE Dividend Returns - updated weekly on: March 30, 2012, 08:31:01 AM
hm PureMining pays dividends several times per week. How do you calculate the weekly amount?

I just calculated the 3 dividends they paid out over the time period I listed.
1127  Economy / Securities / [GLBSE] [Stochastically.com] - Dividend Returns - updated 12 times a day. on: March 30, 2012, 08:23:17 AM
Check out Stochastically.com for up to date dividend return information.

Sponsors:
[ur=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29927l]usagi[/url] - CPA

Donators:
Ocean6

1128  Economy / Services / Re: GLBSE2.0 has launched! on: March 30, 2012, 07:28:13 AM
Interesting, I have some pending orders yet my BTC reserve says 0.
1129  Economy / Securities / Re: TyGrr-Bot (GLBSE) ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: March 30, 2012, 06:54:26 AM
Goat has 3 main things on GLBSE, TyGrr, TyGrr-Bank, and now TyGrr-Bot.  TyGrr has been around for a few months now and has consistently paid dividends. 

IIRC, there is also BIB.Goat, which is a debt issue, now significantly owned by Goat. (slick creative opportunistic financing really)

Now, when I suggested this was risky, I did not suggest that Goat was attempting to scam anyone in any way. I was really trying to more careful determine the real risk involve in investment because I like the general idea.

What znort987 says is dead on. Honestly, with copumpkin talking about credit default swaps, the risk in this project sounds more attractive. I tend to think it has a high potential for spectacular failure, which could extend the risk to Goat's other ventures (this is my main concern, Goat's overall risk & solvency) but now, if I could hedge that risk with CDSes, I'd really consider taking a plunge. The fact is, if Goat and his team can pull TyGRR-Bot off, it's likely to be the proverbial cash bull!

Goat looks like he's been successful in his ventures, and while I have my questions with this one, all other things being equal, this has a high potential for success. The risk is, IMO, somewhat understated, but I am fairly conservative, too. YMMV

(also, I don't recall where I read about an arb-bot being banned, and I could have been mistaken, or somehow jumbled that idea in along w/bitscalper - but I sure thought I read it somewhere...hmm - however, a properly executed bot will in fact add liquidity to the exchanges, rather than take it, so it should be welcomed, IMO)

Where did copumpkin say this?
1130  Economy / Services / Re: GLBSE2.0 has launched! on: March 30, 2012, 02:08:07 AM
On the portfolio page, when will the history be cut off, or will it continue to add trade history to the tables in the Portfolio page?

Right now they just continue, but eventually we're going to have to limit the numbers.

What do you think is an ideal number?

maybe just have a history section that allows by date or asset sorting
1131  Economy / Services / Re: GLBSE2.0 has launched! on: March 30, 2012, 12:55:56 AM
On the portfolio page, when will the history be cut off, or will it continue to add trade history to the tables in the Portfolio page?
1132  Economy / Securities / Re: TyGrr-Bot (GLBSE) ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: March 30, 2012, 12:45:59 AM
only 5BTC bids @ 0.999999   ?

Of course since there are over 800 available for 1.
1133  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it safe to break out the 10:1? on: March 29, 2012, 09:22:24 PM
LOL. I use 10:1 for safety during volatility.

A couple weeks ago, when bitcoinica had a software error, and liquidated tons of positions, I was saved by the higher margin level. I would have seen my position force liquidated at lower levels. Instead of being liquidated I made money Smiley

It seems that many people around here risk far too much on any one position. I am much more tolerant of risk in bitcoin than I am in other trading, but still I won't risk much more than 10% of my equity on a position. (I hit about 12% on the error mentioned above) This gives me a lot of room before I go into severe drawdown.

Going "all in" at any level of leverage is just asking for it. Personally, I highly recommend partially hedging your position with your currency account. Drawdown is highly accentuated if your margin is based on a volatile asset in your account, like bitcoin.

I do it this way as well.  I might have 10:1 but I am only using 10% of my account on Bitcoinica.  If someone uses all their capital no matter what their leverage is going to get called.
1134  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I believe there is a Hero member who is scamming your money. on: March 29, 2012, 08:58:35 PM
He is a donator to make you trust him
He borrows a lot of money from this forum.
He promised high rate of return. And lots of people get paid. you trust him more. he is popular now. like Mr. Ponzi trusted by New York people.
He suggest that he has high social value by using an avtar with a sexy woman lean to a man.
He runs tons of projects, which are profitable.
He is telling you that he knows lots of big big people.
He sometimes say that the interest is not guaranteed but since you're not idiot you must know it must be high though not guaranteed.
He lives in a very exotic country.


He is scamming your money.
 be cautious.


Its obvious hes talking about Goat, and this thread is bullshit. You should never post a scamming accusation unless you have solid proof AND your willing to provide it in your thread. If this were the real world - you could be charged with slander / defamation of character and you would deserve it.

I thought this was the real world?
Good point. HorseRider, I charge you with slander and baseless defamation of Fussy Prick's character. Cognitive and whatever else was in your signature are now in my Tier 3 mental shit-list (above being Atlas, but below typing "rediculous" or "withdrawl").

Carry on.

In the real, real world a person that baselessly defames another person's reputation would be worrying about other things besides being charged with defamation.  A man can only really own two things in his life, his word and his reputation. These two things are the most valuable things he will ever own.

Unfortunately, the anonymity the web brings makes people grow balls bigger than their mother gave them.  Now Horserider realizes that he has no reputation to make baseless accusations and by doing so his word is as valuable as horse shit.
1135  Economy / Securities / Re: TyGrr-Bot (GLBSE) ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: March 29, 2012, 08:46:45 PM
How much to buy in? A lot.

Other people involved are my partner the coder and someone who helps him.



Which means: guess it yourself. your imagination will be able to fill the hole. I have very good excuse to not disclosure anything that matters(privacy of course). I'm so popular on this forum and been paying so high rate of return, you just buy it.



You either want to spread FUD and buy in at a low rate or you are a troll.  If you don't trust Goat then don't buy.  It is that simple.  I find it interesting that people argue so much to make strangers think they are right.

You know it very clear that you are now in a Ponzi scheme. And you still have not get back your principal. Confidence is very crucial for the Ponzi game. A real company will survival in a doubt, but a Ponzi won't. You know that and your angry expressed in your reply proved your awareness of your danger.  

When the famous popular ID collapse into a scamming scandal, I will review this post.

What I said was angry?  I am not angry, I am just pointing out that if you don't trust Goat then don't buy it.  You don't need to go around thinking you are a bitcoin Superman trying to stop Lex Luther.  It is not that big of a deal.  If you trust Goat 100% then give him all your money.  If you don't trust at all then don't waste your time being worried about him.

All investments have an element of risk.  Bitcoin has a lot of risk from currency fluctuations.  There is also risk that Goat disappears.  He could get hit by a bus tomorrow and all the money invested is lost or put on hold until someone figures out how to pay people back.  I could get hit by a bus too and all my money is worthless.  A security flaw could be found in bitcoin rendering it useless, a bug in the bot could be discovered making it not be as efficient as previously thought, GLBSE could be hacked and all the bitcoins and/or shares could be stolen or lost, or a thousand other things.  You need to do your own due-diligence before investing in highly speculative things.

You need to understand that higher returns usually come with greater risk.  Goat has 3 main things on GLBSE, TyGrr, TyGrr-Bank, and now TyGrr-Bot.  TyGrr has been around for a few months now and has consistently paid dividends.  The market for TyGrr shares are fairly liquid.  TyGrr-Bank has been around only a few weeks and Goat said it will not last forever.  I would also not be surprised if the interest rate goes much lower for that bond.  The weekly rate of return for mining companies on GLBSE is about 0.1% so 2.5% is extremely good.  I should also point out that at a weekly rate of 0.1% a week would give a return similar to some high paying dividend stocks on the NYSE or NASDAQ, and stocks on the NYSE or NASDAQ have an astronomically greater volume than GLBSE.  Investors should expect a much higher rate of return due to risk in GLBSE more so than 0.1% a week.

TyGrr-Bot is brand new.  No one really knows if it will be profitable or not.  That is a risk that people are willing to take with small amounts of money.  It is normal that people will more likely take on more risk than is reasonably expected the lower the amount of money they invest, but that is no excuse to follow Goat around and spit out opinions on Goat's solvency.  Otherwise I also can spit out my opinions that you are nothing but a scamming manipulator trying to buy Goat's GLBSE investments at a low rate and sell high.
1136  Economy / Securities / Re: TyGrr-Bot (GLBSE) ~automated arbitrage trading system~ on: March 29, 2012, 06:27:45 AM
How much to buy in? A lot.

Other people involved are my partner the coder and someone who helps him.



Which means: guess it yourself. your imagination will be able to fill the hole. I have very good excuse to not disclosure anything that matters(privacy of course). I'm so popular on this forum and been paying so high rate of return, you just buy it.



You either want to spread FUD and buy in at a low rate or you are a troll.  If you don't trust Goat then don't buy.  It is that simple.  I find it interesting that people argue so much to make strangers think they are right.
1137  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE - request for next features on: March 28, 2012, 11:01:28 PM
Done, sorry about that Tongue

Looks good.
1138  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE 2.0 open for testing on: March 28, 2012, 10:26:33 PM
Also ordered the asks/bids on the asset page and put them into a nice, pastel coloured table.

Adding account transfers now.

Could you put the bids in the reverse order so that the highest bid is next to the lowest ask?
1139  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: GLBSE - request for next features on: March 28, 2012, 10:25:16 PM
Orderbook View
I'd like to see BUY orders on the lower left, sorted from HIGH to LOW
I'd like tio see SELL orders on the upper right, from LOW to HIGH
much like so:

but with even more info, eg accumulated volume for each order level with AVG price.

Looks like this has been done, but the bids should be in the opposite order.
1140  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I believe there is a Hero member who is scamming your money. on: March 28, 2012, 09:06:17 AM
He is a donator to make you trust him
He borrows a lot of money from this forum.
He promised high rate of return. And lots of people get paid. you trust him more. he is popular now. like Mr. Ponzi trusted by New York people.
He suggest that he has high social value by using an avtar with a sexy woman lean to a man.
He runs tons of projects, which are profitable.
He is telling you that he knows lots of big big people.
He sometimes say that the interest is not guaranteed but since you're not idiot you must know it must be high though not guaranteed.
He lives in a very exotic country.


He is scamming your money.
 be cautious.


Its obvious hes talking about Goat, and this thread is bullshit. You should never post a scamming accusation unless you have solid proof AND your willing to provide it in your thread. If this were the real world - you could be charged with slander / defamation of character and you would deserve it.

I thought this was the real world?
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