New Sales Policy
Customers in EU, Switzerland and North Europe non-EU countries Please contact forum member yxt, whose RRP is agreed by us.
Customers in the rest of the world
Minimum Order Volume of 50 USB sticks. Price of 0.99 each. 2% sent as redundancy (not in warranty). Shipping is free.
If you reach the total volume of 1,000 USB sticks, price is dropped to 0.89 each and we will pay back the price difference of all your historic transaction of USB sticks.
If we get an excluding deal with resellers in some certain countries we will stop directly supply USBs towards there, as in the case of China zone,
I am sorry to ask but what happens if we reach more than 1.000 sticks? A 0.1 BTC refund per device would be nice.  Plus "the price difference of all your historic transaction of USB sticks" - so 1 BTC per stück ordered? |
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It's not the vendor who sets the price, it's the market which functions following supply&demand.
I'm ashamed to be explaining such basic things, but some of the guys in here seem to do not understand basic free market principles.
I'm ashamed that you don't get the obvious... YES THE VENDOR SETS THE PRICE. When is the last time you went to buy a brand new (insert favorite technology here) and you got to pick the price? That is just not the way retail sales works. EVERY manufacturer sets a manufacturers suggested retail price (msrp) and that is the price used by the ENTIRE distribution channel to caculate each players profit along the distribution chain. And when the Vendor sets a price and then days later cuts the price in half then the CUSTOMER GETS PISSED. How is this not OBVIOUS? My young son understands and he can barely read. Friedcat and company FUCKED the community. Read through the thread and you will quickly see ALL the PEOPLE who are FORMER customers of ASICMINER products who just wrote, right here in this forum, that they will NEVER buy another ASICMINER product becuase the VENDOR DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO PRICE PRODUCTS and the VENDOR HAS A HISTORY OF SCREWING EARLY ADOPTERS. How is this not obviously STUPID BUSINESS PRACTICE? Seriously, is this how big business operates? NO? Why? BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE COST OF LOSING CUSTOMERS OVER STUPID POLICY DECISIONS can be calculated in REAL DOLLARS. At this point any reasonable person will conclude that ASICMINERS GREEED is larger than ASICMINER and the STUPID PRICING policy is driving customers away. Count all the lost sales and goodwill destroyed by ASICMININERS desire to eek out a few extra coins today. Instead they COULD HAVE eeked out our coins for years and years and years if they had treated the community with a modicum of respect. Instead Friedcat has just become Inaba2.0+1 (but without the swearing  ) |
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Then you will loose even more money and still dont make a ROI.
This is an irritating price-correction in such a short amount of time indeed. As much as I'm tempted to purchase another 50 of these, I just can't rationalize it given the possibility they may be priced at 0.50 BTC each next month  Xian, I'm gonna sit on my coins from now on and let the market settle before deciding to buy more hash power. Too many players adjusting their prices. It's got to be wise to wait now. |
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If you knew it wasn't worth it, why are you pissed?
I'm only a bit pissed - anyone would be if they bought something for 2 BTC that was selling for 1 BTC two weeks later. Not rocket science really... [EDIT] Point is I'm not a returning customer. I'm only teasing, I understand what you're saying. I wonder how many people are ordering more @ BTC1 to bring their average cost down? If you bought 1 @ 2 and 2 @ 1, that works out to BTC1.33 each  21st March - 30G little single - I expect others like my are trying to tread water till they arrive |
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If you knew it wasn't worth it, why are you pissed?
I'm only a bit pissed - anyone would be if the bought something for 2 BTC that was selling for 1 BTC two weeks later. Not rocket science really... Hold onto it for a few decades, it may be worth something... Indeed - like my 30 year old BBC micro |
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If you knew it wasn't worth it, why are you pissed?
I'm only a bit pissed - anyone would be if they bought something for 2 BTC that was selling for 1 BTC two weeks later. Not rocket science really... [EDIT] Point is I'm not a returning customer. |
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Edit: you sly bastard you edited it but I got ya! Sly bastard is a bit harsh - but hey if ya want |
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Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat.
If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low. If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. And then you drop the price, and...oh wait, that is what they're doi.... Yeah, but customers who already paid 2+ BTC will be pissed (like me) and think twice now - no return sales. [EDIT] 2 weeks ago... Don't worry too much another round of suckers are going to be butt hurt right along with you shortly . LOL new price ~$300/gh lmfao fucking beautiful. I quite like them - that's the problem - they could have worked. I knew I was paying ott. I was expecting them to drop big style. To come up with a new plan of 1 BTC for 300 GH/s after the initial buzz wore off is a bad business decision. TYPO!!!! although I sure would like to buy a 1 BTC 300GH/s USB miner  Ha - edited it back to MH - thanks |
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that also makes you a greedy f**k
The bitcoin universe is filled with greedy fucks. You need to realize that this is still money we're talking about, and money attracts greedy fucks. Having said that, if you were selling widgets, and thousands of people offered you $200 per widget, would you say "naw, that's too much, $25 only"? If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low.
If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. Too true, but I don't think that's the situation we're in right now. Something like 4,000 of the first 10,000 units had been sold as of a week ago? And friedcat is panicking that the other 6000 wont sell. Nobody thinks 2 BTC was worth it (I didn't but I bought 2 to try it). Nobody thinks 1 BTC is worth it - the current price. Unless he does something (even more) drastic - he'll be left with thousands of unsold units. It doesn't matter to him though, his chips have had their NRE long since covered. They are between $0.5 and $2 to make each, the most expensive part is prob the board itself now. His profit at 2BTC is in the order of thousands of percent. He can play this cost cutting game well into sub $10, think about it. Altough by that point he'd start charging for shipping on top. I suppose you are right - made 1 million - could have made 10 - still made 1 million so fu... |
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Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat.
If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low. If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. And then you drop the price, and...oh wait, that is what they're doi.... Yeah, but customers who already paid 2+ BTC will be pissed (like me) and think twice now - no return sales. [EDIT] 2 weeks ago... Don't worry too much another round of suckers are going to be butt hurt right along with you shortly . LOL new price ~$300/gh lmfao fucking beautiful. I quite like them - that's the problem - they could have worked. I knew I was paying ott. I was expecting them to drop big style. To come up with a new plan of 1 BTC for 300 MH/s after the initial buzz wore off is a bad business decision. |
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Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat.
If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low. If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. And then you drop the price, and...oh wait, that is what they're doi.... Yeah, but customers who already paid 2+ BTC will be pissed (like me) and think twice now - no return sales. [EDIT] 2 weeks ago... Supply and demand dictate the price. They *had* to lower the price because they produce more than they are selling. If they have a decent capacity, in some weeks you will see them at $25ish And demand has dropped dramatically. Anyone can see that. |
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that also makes you a greedy f**k
The bitcoin universe is filled with greedy fucks. You need to realize that this is still money we're talking about, and money attracts greedy fucks. Having said that, if you were selling widgets, and thousands of people offered you $200 per widget, would you say "naw, that's too much, $25 only"? If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low.
If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. Too true, but I don't think that's the situation we're in right now. Something like 4,000 of the first 10,000 units had been sold as of a week ago? And friedcat is panicking that the other 6000 wont sell. Nobody thinks 2 BTC was worth it (I didn't but I bought 2 to try it). Nobody thinks 1 BTC is worth it - the current price. Unless he does something (even more) drastic - he'll be left with thousands of unsold units. |
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Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat.
If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low. If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. And then you drop the price, and...oh wait, that is what they're doi.... Yeah, but customers who already paid 2+ BTC will be pissed (like me) and think twice now - no return sales. [EDIT] 2 weeks ago... |
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Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat.
If you sell more than you can make, your prices are too low. If you sell too few - you over priced and missed the boat. |
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Actually they were my numbers but there you go... we were just discussing things - now offline...
They were not. You have changed the A Pool "after" from 1 block in 20 min to 1 block in 30 min You have changed the B Pool "after" from 3 blocks in 20 min to 1 block in 10 min Trasla's post starts with Lets say we have two pools and continues with his numbers that you have eventually changed. They're definitely not yours. So do not be lying here. Okays, I will not be doing the lying. You win I give up. |
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I will say that pricing block erupter at 1 BTC for 338 MHz is pretty much the final death blow for GPU mining. Unless one wants to mine alt scrypt coins, there is absolutely no reason to purchase a GPU for mining over block erupters.
Ummm...resale of a GPU will always be better than a novelty item with no use in a month, or two, plus there is gaming, cad work, cgi animation, rendering and all those other things graphics cards do. These USB dongles aren't worth a 0.5BTC price tag...they are practically no cost to make. I agree that GPUs have other valid uses, and folks will buy them for other purposes and mine on the side, but they are no longer a good mining only buy for anything other than scrypt. You can now get 1 GHs worth of USB miners for $300, and the USB miners also cost far less in electricity to operate. GPUs can't touch that. Agreed, but in 3 months you'll still be able to sell a GPU, factor that into the profit you'll barely get from the ASICminer USB. This is soley about them selling their tech at inflated prices and introducing ASICs into the wild en mass, so they can add more proportionately to their oligopoly. Friedcat would have sold more than he could make if he came in with 3 ubs sticks for 1 BTC - over priced - too late now - missed the boat. |
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damn I'm really kicking myself in the ass for taking this loan
I've had issues getting on the internet lately and now I've got issues getting my coins from cavirtex (they changed their cash deposit procedures and now I have to wait for verification)
I'm going to payback the loan + some extra for being late of course
I sent austin a PM, hopefully there are no hard feelings.. if I get marked with scammer tag its okay with me but I'll definitely be paying back the loan regardless
sorry austin
It's okay, I can give you extra time. No scammer tag will be necessary as long as you pay it back. thank you just working on getting the coins right now. 0.16 BTC - sigh
I know right Drake, I'm watching a lot of let downs atm - you wont be one I hope... |
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Actually they were my numbers but there you go... we were just discussing things - now offline...
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