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11261  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: did you put all your money into bitcoin? on: September 18, 2016, 01:59:34 PM
Nope I did not put all my money into the bitcoin because of the fact that is just stupid to do  in my eyes.
Its not worth to put all your money in it, it stays a investment and it can still fall down.
I agree, if we put all our money in bitcoin that would mean we are putting all our wealth at risk, bitcoin is not for savings
but for investment and every investment has a risk associated so we only need to put the amount that we can afford to lose.
11262  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin and Porn on: September 18, 2016, 01:53:44 PM
although this sounds like it would be a great mix its not, big corporations own porn hub and others like it and they are really only interested in the old fashioned ways of taking in capitol so I am afraid you will only see low level vendors accepting BTC for porn....

the big corporations like this only care about money and nothing else so i am sure they do not care about sticking to old ways or the new, they only care about earning more money.

so i think the reaso why they do not have bitcoin option is that there is not enough interest for it.
If they have less chargebacks due to using Bitcoin, they would probably consider adding Bitcoin payments.
But I can really see a market for independant producers, due to the anonymity aspects.
Exactly porn sites would entertain bitcoins because of the fact that the payments once made by the customer cannot be reversed by them saying " they don't like the video Grin " and hence the sites will feel much secure getting paid via bitcoins.
I don't see anything wrong with bitcoins accepted on porn sites.


I don't think they would see the Bitcoins usefulness and in my own opinion porn wouldn't care if they add Bitcoin or not on their payments because they seems that there's no soo much user to use it. Same as others said but If I were them I would add those payment terms because Bitcoin users does increase as days goes by.
You have no idea the number of porn lover in this world, bitcoin make the transaction easy because you can have a cam show and you will just have to pay for bitcoin, and then you do not need to divulge your personal information so tipster and comfortable with this kind of set up.
11263  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: September 18, 2016, 01:49:50 PM
I don't consider trading as gambling. There are risk of loosing money in both even if you are experienced trader. The only difference is level of risk what is extremely high in gambling as you have quickest way of getting result. Trading also goes wrong when you try to gain more profit assuming something will be one way but it goes other way. Difference is clear and they are not same at all.

I agree, gambling is different from trading. In gambling you can get addicted to it because the result or outcome of yoir gambling is very fast. It makes you addicted because you can earn fast in gambling. Unlike in trading, it needs patience to earn profit from it so it won't make you get addicted to it.
Mostly you can easily addicted in gambling because the result is very fast and when you are experiencing loses that is when you start to think of avenging your loses, but in trading, you will not directly lose because it is either you will lose or win a certain percentage of the amount you use in trading.
11264  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: September 18, 2016, 01:33:53 PM
Best investment is knowledge. And i'm pretty sure it leads you to diversification of funds. Joining prospective ICOs, trading altcoins, and investing into reliable sites.   

I agree, the best investment is by diversifying it. Don't concentrate on a single investment as it can be dangerous in the future if something happens in that company or business. Diversifying it can minimize the risk of losing your invesrment instantly.
It is not the investment itself but the way to manage your investment, what OP would like to know is the specific type of investment that can give us great return and I would say holding your bitcoin for a long period of time is the way to grow our money easily.
11265  Other / Off-topic / Re: What value does Bitcoin bring to you? on: September 18, 2016, 01:23:33 PM
I am using bitcoin because with it I can earn bigger profit from price increase and from trading, and with that currency we can transact our money faster than bank or other transaction system.

I am optimistic person, from day one I believe in BTC & having more importance in my life as it will help me to become financial freedom in future.Accordingly i have started plan to build career. 

Well that's the best way to move ahead with bitcoins, try to earn and collect as much as you can for the future so if price reaches to the moon it can make you rich person for sure.

So basically it is all about being optimistic for seeing what's ahead. In some ways i also think that we are also learning to become and entrepreneur type of persons because we discover some ways to earn.

Not only on being optimistic but also being a sensible person too because we just think too ahead and made up some plans already. We do really learn while we are seeking for new ways and other methods to earns partly as you said also.
Being optimistic would make us very positive in our dreams on being rich with bitcoin, and all of us here are longing that one day our continuous support to bitcoin will give us a good benefits and we will be rewarded with great profit on our investment.
11266  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of Bitcoin Economics on: September 18, 2016, 01:14:01 PM
I think we need more projects and  sites to promote and incentive the use  of btc, because if people do not  know about it , what will happen is  that they'll not use it..

Yes more projects, development advertisement and good press.  Bitcoin has been known by many as bad thing, something that is attached to illegal activities.  This is because of the sensationlized bad press.  Well I think the community can counteract this by releasing more good press, projects and development with full promotion and advertisement.  This way bitcoin will be acknowledge by more people  and eventually the government.
Dumb people think that bitcoin is use for illegal activities but I am proud I am one of the smart people who are on board in bitcoin. I believe the future of bitcoin is great because we are supporting it and we will prove to the world that using bitcoin has a great benefits.
Yes actually crypto like bitcoin is a good future. It will provide benefits and convenience for us. There are many benefits here and I believe the future will be good bitcoin. Bitcoin future will be better if continued progress and evolve keep pace with the times.
As soon as a certain person knows about bitcoin they will be surprise of the benefits in can offer to them, currently it is not that popular but I am already seeing that it will be big in the future due to the trend that tells continuous adoption is happening.
11267  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 18, 2016, 01:10:18 PM
For me it would not be a great idea to go full time on Bitcoin because I know that I would not make enough money with it to be able to make a living out of it.
Maybe it would be possible in the future but it would not happen at this moment.

Yeah and this stage we have only limited ways to earn bitcoins as our full time job eats all the time so its difficult to give more time to bitcoins, and if your earning from bitcoin is low in compare to job then its better to continue with full time job.
That's true, going full time here is a big gamble, you only do that if you are still in the stage that you only earn for yourself but if you have a big family already who depends on you, you need to think twice about of quitting your job especially when you have no assurance that you will earn consistent income online.
11268  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 18, 2016, 10:57:15 AM
There are multiple possibilities,  I myself use signature campaigns to  earn some profit, with my other  btcs I really do nothing else  than holding. I think holding right now is one of  the best things you can do, because  of the fact that the btc  has potential to rise  to a higher level in the future..

Earning from signature campaign is the best way to earn money, and I think that earnings should be invested in altcoin trading to make quick profits and to grow the amount of coins in future.
It is one of the ways to earn money but it is not the best because even your current signature you are not getting the big amount on a weekly basis, I don't know but it seems like if I am in your shoes I will not be satisfied with that amount but I will just try other ways that could give me more opportunity to earn big.
11269  Economy / Economics / Re: When do you buy Bitcoin ? on: September 18, 2016, 10:55:16 AM
To be honest, one shouldn't buy bitcoins like that. It is a long term investmant, I would buy it if the price went down to less than 400 and not sell any of those for a long time.

I don't thin that we will ever see that low price of bitcoin again in future and if you are waiting to buy at that price then you are surely wasting your time as that will never happen.
So better buy now or regret later, i am optimistic that the price will rise up to $1,000 by the end of the year, and I hope you guys have that kind of optimism because that is all what we need in order for us to gain a good profit from our investment.

Exactly, we need to move ahead with positive mindsets and even if price goes down in coming days, we should hold our coins tight and have faith in bitcoins that it will touch $1k price very soon.
Because if we are more focus on the future of bitcoin, we will not panic if there is a major price fallback, instead see that as an opportunity for us to buy more bitcoins and add on the total number of our investment, just believe in the future as that is the only way we are holding here.
11270  Other / Off-topic / Re: Would you like to receive your salary in BTC? on: September 18, 2016, 10:49:40 AM
I get my monthly salary in bitcoin now, I work in a start-up in bitcoin industry, I feel very happy paid in bitcoin, I can directly buy my favorite altcoin, don't need to deposit to bank with any trouble.

Wow, really amazing if you get it all. So you can as well use the bitcoin and also sure you will be delighted when the there are a few stores that accept bitcoin as one payment. You are so lucky and I'd love to get it all,
Great to hear that there are really a certain establishment that pays bitcoin, if you care to share what company are you in I would be very appreciative because I will try to apply and leave my day job if the benefits is bigger than my current job.
11271  Economy / Economics / Re: How to save money. on: September 18, 2016, 10:45:16 AM
If you want to save money,  my advice is keep your btcs  in your btc wallet, never get bitcoin to use into  gambling, hyip... and every time you get  bitcoin from sig campaign, faucet, or  any other ways, send it to your bitcoin wallet, that  way in the future you will see your accumulated  bitcoin and you will be surprised..
You need a whole lot of discipline for you to do that, you have to sacrifice you happiness just to save money. I think that is not good all the time, you also need to entertain and if you want gambling as your way to have fun, of course you can do it but with control is necessary.

There are many other ways to have fun in life, and not necessary that only gambling can give us entertainment, and you will never know when you will fun with get converted to addiction in gambling.
What if gambling is the only way for a person to have fun, do you call that person to have a worst life in the future, I believe if you can do gambling right then you will not encounter and you will enjoy gambling in the long run, that's what I believe but I don't know if more people were able to do that.
11272  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 18, 2016, 10:42:30 AM
nothing all investment online high risk
all investment online only hyip scheme ponzy
on wait time owner much money can scam site

That is why some are building the trust first. So that people wont think that way. But the problem is there is too many scams that are happening, with this bad reputation is given to all.

Yes there are few bunch of people who are involved in scamming people and that makes new comers hesitate in entering the world of bitcoins and it also creates bad image of bitcoins in their minds.
That is just normal because you cannot expect that all people who are in bitcoin are good people, we are living in the cryto world an anonymous world so criminals maybe here therefore we need to be careful with our movement and make sure we are clever all the time.

Yes and if someone promises you to give best returns in quick time then that is surely a ponzi scheme, so we should not get greedy and should have self control to avoid those scammers.
Some have claim that they were able to exploit HYIP using the method to first invest then get out early, I was wondering if that is possible so we can make easy money, if smart people can do that maybe HYIP will stop its operation.
11273  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it better to save money or invest it? on: September 18, 2016, 10:39:01 AM
For me invest is my priority than saving money because I knew that I can grow my bitcoin if my mindset is on investing but make that you the risk of some investment site. Trading also is my another option to grow faster my bitcoin. Then saving is the last priority for harvesting my hard earn money from the cyberworld.

Well  that is if you have enough money to invest.  Mostly people who are working tends to save first then after sometime when they have enough saving go with profit generating venture.   So basically saving for the capital to use in an investment is the process or strategy most of the normal employess do.
That is correct because we need to follow the process, we need to learn how to save first before we can invest, investment is only the opportunity for the people who have already invested enough of money to start of what he is thinking in his mind.

People who have full time job and if salary is the only source of income then they will go for saving first to secure the future and once they have enough capital they will start with small investments.
That's my plan but until now I have not save a good amount of money yet because of the demand in life, having a big family will let you spend more especially when you are the only bread winner in the family, of course in order to live well we need to prioritize the bills before savings.
11274  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin can disappear? on: September 18, 2016, 10:23:09 AM
It can disappear in future if we find some new and innovative currency which could be better then bitcoin and if it does take birth then bitcoin will surely disappear.
i guess it wont disappear rather, maybe the value will fluctuate.. It i  guess i will stay forever.. But if people wipp continue the high demand of bitcoins, then it won't never disappear and tje value at the same time increases.

Anything can happen and we cannot predict what will be exact scenario in future, if people find it boring then they may find some alternate option which can give them better profits.

People already switch to altcoins when they have the feeling the Bitcoin price isn't moving much. People just follow the money. One day they jump into altcoins, and the other day it's Bitcoin again that gets their attention.
That is not gonna happen, bitcoin is progressive this year and you cannot expect that the price of bitcoin will move everyday because there is already equal of supply and demand and price is not manipulated like altcoins.
11275  Other / Off-topic / Re: What value does Bitcoin bring to you? on: September 18, 2016, 10:19:51 AM
I think that Bitcoin really gives us a lot.
I like sense of financial freedom here, anonymity, like to be part of some vision and idea which can change the world.
Bitcoin really started real revolution and, what is the most important, is decentralized, nobody control Bitcoin.
So, we are all equal here, no differences among us.
Also, Bitcoin is very safe to use and if I have to buy something online, I prefer to use Bitcoin, if possible.
 

Yes and you can also make some good money on regular basis if you are good at trading, I generally prefer to use them on sports betting and managing to earn some good money from it.
Trading is only for smart people as well as sports betting, but between the two I would rather choose trading as you can learn while you are staying long while in gambling you will never learn if you cannot control your emotions and long for a good winnings.
11276  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If you were rich, would you still gamble? on: September 18, 2016, 10:17:39 AM
I do not think to gamble again if I'm rich because I have a lot of money we can do anything to enjoy in the life and if do you think to get rich from gambling it is it is very hard.
I think almost gamblers are rich they are gamble their money because they are just playing for fun not for making a profit..
Poor people are always looking for lazy ways to be rich thats why they are gamble their money expecting that they can make a profit but. result are loses all their earnings..
You are wrong on what you believe brother, the fact that there are many poor people in this world that would only meant that more people who are in the poor status are into gambling because they want to make money in gambling and wanted to be rich in gambling.


You are right pal, not all gamblers are rich since there are no rich in playing gambling after all in fact most of gamblers are just average people don't have plenty of money to play that's why they risk it on gambling in able and hope for make it to grow.



I beg to disagree. Gambling is for all status in life. Go to casinos and you will see secret millionaires and rich and famous there. What I am trying to point out is that, gambling is just for entertainment for all folks - whether you are rich or not. Now, majority of the players however, are coming from the average economic class in our society.
Nah, but poor people will just blame gambling when they gamble their hard earned money, it is not for everyone because not all of us can afford, it will just give them problem in the future if they will try to gamble with the money that they cannot afford to lose.
11277  Economy / Economics / Re: Is it a good long term investment to buy 1 BTC today? on: September 17, 2016, 08:26:35 AM
Buying a whole bitcoin is a good investment the only problem is that for a long term investment 1BTC is too little, I think is better to concentrate on increasing your current earnings that in long term investments for you right now.

You got the point of it, if you are intending to plan and make some investments with bitcoin for long term then probably 1 bitcoin is not going to be enough or if you are going to get some profit with it what is going to happen is that you are just going to get small profit from it. But still it depends to the investor of how much is going to be his capacity.

For some people 1 BTC may seem like a "low" number even though the far majority don't even own that amount, but some people really believe the price will go to $5000-$10,000 at some point in the future. Whether or not this will happen is another thing, but with that in mind, then 1 BTC is a more than decent amount to hold.
I would say it depends on how you use it, if you are using that money for investing in the long term then it is not big enough or a considerable amount, but if you are using that in gambling, I believe that is already a good amount of bankroll and you have a good chance to grow it if you are lucky.

Gambling should never be an option or way to try to increase your coin count. Depending on luck is not the way to do things. People will end up losing all their funds in the long run when their (assuming they are very lucky) winning streaks end up in a bad losing streak where it won't be possible to recover from. And if you are with bad luck from the very beginning, then you will lose all you have directly.

I agree gambling should not be a choice too because that is not going to make you productive at all. But if you are going to hold it for a long time it is going to give you profit by just doing nothing and you are just going to wait for somehow until the price is going to be acceptable to you or else you are going to trade for a long time.
Gambling is not an investment at all because it is very risky if you gamble with your big money, that is just a game for the rich but when you are not financially free you focus on investment to grow your money and one thing I can see that would help us grow our money is by investing in gambling sites while waiting for the price of bitcoin to increase, it is like we are receiving a compounded interest.
11278  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: September 17, 2016, 08:22:32 AM
If you think back on 2009 , people absolutely no interest with something unknown and new.
Even if there are some people buy bitcoin on that time, they will sell as long as the value increased ! Imagine if you keep bought 1000 btc on that time and sell in this year..... What are you to be now ?

Well if I am one those people who are early with bitcoin and bought 1,000 bitcoins. I don't think I will still going to work with my current job.

What I am going to do is that I will going to build my own mini business that is going to be a good source of my income.

And I will going to be the own boss of my own business, but I don't think I will going to have total of 1,000 btc by this time because for sure that is going to be lesser now.
Me as well, I will not also work anymore and instead I will just enjoy the rest of my life with that amount of BTC in my wallet. We work to get money to live a comfortable life in the future and I hope I will find a fortune here in the bitcoin world.
11279  Economy / Economics / Re: How to earn money with bitcoin ? on: September 17, 2016, 08:17:48 AM
Actually it's easy to earn money with bitcoin. I mean, there are many ways to earn money with bitcoin like faucets, signature campaign, trading, gambling and many else.

Faucets are just a waste of time. I had used bitcoin faucets for almost a month and I just did gain nothing. Signature campaign is a good way to get bitcoin and if you have already enough savings with it. I would say that you must also try to get into trading so that you are going to earn higher but you must be knowledgeable with it.
Completely agree with you mate, I did faucet before and the outcome is not really productive, I would rather do signature campaign as it does not demand much of my time and I can still learn while doing the job compared to faucets which is purely visual only.
11280  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the next halving really matter that much? on: September 17, 2016, 08:14:38 AM
   Yes it matters, when ever we cut income in half, there will be side effects from that. I think only problem is not so big demand, as I understand there is not so many people involved with bitcoins, especially not big companies. With time that can change, and then price of bitcoin can go up like rocket.
   Or that is the plan, and what most people here expect to happen one day.
Have you noticed that every time halving comes the price is good, that is what happen this year also because the halving took place this year and look at the price now, it doubles already compared to the opening price of the year 2016 so I think it really matters for us to make profit.
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