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11341  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: October 25, 2016, 05:15:04 AM
Personally, I do not know of any way to generate passive income in Bitcoin. All methods require my participation. I have to work hard to get your Bitcoin

There are ways to earn passive income, but it is risky, and I think not advisable to just use your money.. Others use their big capital to earn steadily without doing anything just by investing and lending... I too do effort to earn and it is easier that way and without too much risk, only effort...  Smiley
Investing and lending requires a big work to do, when there is a big amount involve as your capital you will really ensure that you will be able to make a profit and not doing anything will just make you unsuccessful as you cannot rely on your luck all the time.
11342  Economy / Economics / Re: Does the Price of Bitcoin Matter? on: October 25, 2016, 05:11:51 AM
If im going to answered this question with all my thoughts then yes bitcoin price really matter to me im just depending my income into bitcoin and if the bitcoin price fall into bottom then i would probably cry and then waiting for the price of bitcoin increase again this is the matter of fact that if you are going to expect bitcoin price increase it just decreasing.
Regardless of the price of bitcoin, that all matters to us because we can determine what to do if we know the price, for traders price really matters a lot to them as that is the measurement of their analysis before they will make a final decision on what and when to trade.
11343  Economy / Economics / Re: If you were in desperate need for money.... on: October 25, 2016, 05:07:54 AM
Personally, I would take a loan if I was really desperate. I can then pay back with interest, later and get my immediate need satisfied.

If I wasn't in need, severely, I would just use my signature campaign and some trading. I can usually, store up quite some money by doing both of these strategies.



I won't take a loan if I am really desperate in need for money. Instead of getting a loan I will just going to ask my friends and parents that I need money and it is going to depend on me if I will going to pay them. Because they are really kind to me and I had done that before. Because taking a loan would lead me more problem and desperation.

Its good for you  that you have a  kind  family and  friends   but  for those  people dont have these  kind of  family and  they would  not lend  him any  amount  with it for sure you would definitely  find some  loan as a  last resort. Actually we could not really   point out  directly  on  fixed  situation because  it really depends on person status.

I for example do not have relatives or friends who can give money. Therefore, in the case of an emergency need for money I will sell assets. Including Bitcoin
You have no choice mate, you have to sell all you got to solve your problem of money, if you have bitcoins that will commensurate to the needs the better as you will no longer have a problem as bitcoin is easy to sell as it is also money in the internet.
11344  Economy / Economics / Re: The future of the paper money on: October 25, 2016, 05:03:39 AM
paper money can't be removed in this world until all people have free internet conection, use digital system, and have hardware (smartphone, trezor wallet etc.), because in this world still have place without internet conection, and far from city.

It is right. People need to remember that there are poor countries. In these countries, some people do not even use the Internet. Therefore, they have paper money - the only means of payment. Paper money will be a very long time

They cannot be reached by tehnology that is the problem or they dont want to.
Tribes dont like that idea. They want to live by their traditions and just keep living just like that.
I do think it is healthuer that any country with a high technology.
But for us, if bitcoin want to get global then that will be just for those rich countriea.
There is still much to tackle before it can happen. Paper money will be here for a long time.
Not at all as there is no 100% secure system and when the system will be compromise it will create world chaos and might destroy the world for a possible world war, I know its kinda over scenario but that can happen if we will allow it to happen, paper money should remain.
11345  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: the easiest way to make a profit from gambling? on: October 25, 2016, 04:54:47 AM
easy way dont exist in beginning only after some time can be easy after a long practicing and investing maybe in account
Investing is a new concept all-together but earning from gambling is literally impossible as said many times. If you want to profit with gambling, just try to gamble on events ( most probably sports ) that you feel you will always win, because events where you gamble randomly will always give you loss.
That does not even guarantee, but it is a fun game. Sports betting is always the best game in gambling because you can see that games are real and players will fight for the team to win, so you can analyze what team are the stronger one and you can put your bet with confidence.
11346  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do people keep saying BTC is dead?! on: October 25, 2016, 04:50:29 AM
If bitcoin was dead then so would this forum be and those people wouldn't even be posting here. I think most people who claim such things are just trolls. Some are probably pissed that they missed the boat or bought in at the peak and now they can't do anything but pass the time by trolling (that's if they didn't sell their coins already and are now at a loss which would explain the hostility). Trolls just need to find better things to do because if people on here thought bitcoin was dead then they wouldn't even be here in the first place.
Definitely, you make a good answer. The obvious reason why we are here is because bitcoin is alive and kicking, the price is currently rising, so do you call that a dead coin? I guess not, and we are making benefits of using bitcoin which does a dead cannot give to the living.
11347  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why is gambling so addicting? on: October 25, 2016, 04:47:43 AM
not all gambling addiction caused by money and greed of man against it. but gambling addiction also caused by the pleasure of going to the game.

That's applicable to those who have money and want to look for pleasure, or those people who are depressed and looking for escape... But most of the time gambling is addictive because of what you will win there, there's nothing more tempting in gambling, it's only the money... That is why gambling is advertised like that with those "win as much as you can" or " hit the jackpot" sometimes flashing...  Smiley
good point mate its all because of the money that you can possibly win and its really attract more gamblers to keep betting and became addicted.
It cannot be argued that most of us here are rooting for the money that's why we are gambling and although we devoted our time in working and making money online, sometimes we tend to make a wrong decision of gambling due to our greediness to double such amount.
11348  Economy / Economics / Re: Why You Should Never Sell Your Bitcoins Ever on: October 24, 2016, 01:24:53 PM
Well the word never sell is not right, it must be why you should not sell your bitcoins as of now. And with the word, never and ever that clearly says that you are going to hold your bitcoins until the Earth explodes and why you are holding if you don't have some goals for it then don't get involved in bitcoin if you are just going to do that.

Thats right, there is a really big difference between never selling the coins and not selling them for a particular period of time, because if you say never sell them it simply means just keep them and never take them out, but not selling them now would mean that you should wait for sometime and then sell them as the price would probably go higher by then.

Bitcoin I consider as an object of investments therefore could not understand why he always kept. The time will come and I'm selling it. What are the reasons for this, I do not know. Maybe I just need money urgently. Or maybe just want to sell everything.
Maybe the topic was not right because no one will not doing it surely, we sell to enjoy our benefits and that is the only way because bitcoin has no value when we do not convert it to fiat, I also do not get what the OP means but I will just understand that he means we should hold for a longer period of time.
11349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Everyone looses in the long run on: October 24, 2016, 01:18:44 PM
but i think every one is not loosing in the long run, there are so many people who are making good money gambling, actually they have good experience in gambling.

Well they are only few, but the majority are losing in the long run so I would say that if we are going to convert that in ratio that can be 1% of total gamblers are earning great with gambling. So for me, if you don't want to enter in gambling and you don't want to lose a lot of money then better stop your gambling career.
Maybe I can testify that we are losing in the run is real, I am saying it based on my experience, all I get in gambling is just a temporary winnings, hence I have to be wiser now and instead of gambling for the sake of making money, I downgrade it to having fun only.
11350  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: October 24, 2016, 01:14:24 PM
I think bitcoin is better.I don't use paypal.
i agree with you that bitcoin is much more better because bitcoin is available in everywhere in the world for shopping and a lot of people are using bitcoin because transaction is very faster and secure and bitcoin transaction fees is very much lower.
I also agree because I have dream to buy few things and this was not possible because paypal is not available here in our country now just because of this bitcoin its possible for me to buy many things and its reaching to me very quickly without any problem
Yeah you are right that paypal is not acceptable in everywhere in some countries and bitcoin is really acceptable in everywhere and i also do not paypal because fees is very much higher and bitcoin is very useful nowadays.
so you're actually having opinion that paypal which is now well known amongst online store and being primary payment method aren't available everywhere whilst online stores which accept this payment method are far much more than the online stores which accepting bitcoin
Maybe he does not have a real paypal account, I know paypal was one of the popular payment processor online because most of the freelancers online are required to use paypal, just now that when bitcoin is getting popular, some employer are shifting to bitcoin since they can save for the fees.
11351  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can Bitcoin make Banks disappear? on: October 24, 2016, 01:09:10 PM
But banks can now also be accessed online, and I think almost the same as digital. Banks I am sure will have plenty of ways to stay afloat and I'm sure it would get help from the government. That's why banks are very difficult to disappear.
Banks are way better but smart investors does not trust banks that is why they are here and they are making bitcoin successful.
The big difference is that bitcoin is decentralized and we are confident our currency and investment at the same time is at safe hands, we are lucky we found bitcoin now as this will make a big difference in the future.
11352  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you consider trading as gambling? on: October 24, 2016, 01:02:11 PM
No, gambling and trading is different things
because if we gambling we can play it only on gambling site
if trading we only do it on exchange or marketplace
but yeah both is have same risky we can get lose/profit when we trading and gambling
In the point of Risk both are same I agree, Because In Trading or Gambling both factors making money is not easy. Both have different play style in Gambling the profit depends on the game, But in Trading the profit depends on market price. But in both condition we need investment, and we have to put our money in a risk to make a profit.
Gambling is hard to succeed but trading there is a chance, the big difference is that the longer you trade the more chances you can master and might be profitable but in gambling those gamblers who gamble regularly are subject to losing as we can never master a game with a house edge.
11353  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin worth to you or not... on: October 24, 2016, 12:58:08 PM
Of course bitcoin is worth to me. This community all started because of bitcoin. We're all earning money because of bitcoin. Bitcoin has opened this door of opportunities to us. A brand new concept, brand new set of ways to earn money. I think all of us in this place are ahead of the people around us. We know what will be the currency of the future. When we tell them about bitcoin, they don't know about it yet. They have no idea that we're making money online.
We all are here in this forum that means bitcoin worth to most of us here, if not all,or we would not have been here talking about it and related thing.Obviuosly for me also bitcoin worth to me alot.
Exactly, that is our main reason why we are very active in here, because we can earn online in different ways and we can bitcoins as our investment, we do not need to start with a bigger amount to invest or put our money in the bank to earn a little interest as holding bitcoins is already proven to be profitable in the past.
11354  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2016/17 NBA Off-Season on: October 24, 2016, 12:44:31 PM
From an article that I read, it seems that the East is going to be owned by the Cleveland Cavaliers for the third straight year, barring any major injuries to any of their key players. The other teams following them are the (2) Toronto Raptors, (3) Boston Celtics, (4) Indiana Pacers, (5) Chicago Bulls, (6) Atlanta Hawks, (7) Detroit Pistons, and (Cool New York Knicks. While I don't entirely agree with the list, (I have the Milwaukee Bucks going in at #6), it is clear that it is going to be another year that the Cavs are the hands-down favorites to win the ECF and face the WCF champions, most likely the Golden State Warriors.

this would be good to but it can unpredictable from start season start in two days and i think that all team will want to be in best eight in west and east
think that this season will bring some surprises at the end but maybe it will best in history so far

but this early predict final like this cavs gsw this is bold and hope you will get some good money if this can be predicted
The winner for the first game between the warriors vs the spurs will be the next NBA Champion, Lebron is going to be lucky if the warriors will advance in the west as they know how to beat the team even with Durant on board, but in the event the spurs will win, Lebron will be shut down by kawhi. Mark my word.
11355  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your best investment strategy? on: October 24, 2016, 12:35:27 PM
Now my best investment strategy - a complete savings. I want to raise start-up capital and begin chvoy business. Currently I save almost everything. But my goal justifies all my suffering
That's good, it should be one step at a time and savings should be our first goal, we should not complicate things and it should be done through a procedural approach, if you are successful with your savings you can then implement your investment plan and I can say you have a great chance to succeed.
11356  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: HOW MUCH YOU EARN/LOSE FROM TRADING on: October 24, 2016, 06:03:35 AM
for last night, i only earn small amount at least in about 0.001btc by trading VIA, i expected to earn much but unfortunately i have to go to someplace so i can not continue trading. i lost my chance to earn more profit.
It is good no problem although you got profit for 0.001 BTC only if you can do that every open position on the markets by the time your profit will growing up, because most important is consistently profit from trading not big amount of profit.
Consistency is the key here brother, you are right if we are proven to make profit consistently it would be easy for us to earn big amount of money as we are confident enough to put additional capital for a better income, trading is one of the legitimate way to earn money here so you are lucky if you can make consistent income.
11357  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin or gold? on: October 24, 2016, 05:56:37 AM
Not everyone, but there is a huge interest into bitcoin and thats something that wont change soo soon, i dont like gold, i do have some things with gold, but i cant use it at all, people do steal and kill for those things nowadays, thats an advantage of bitcoin.

For me, I am going to be honest that I really wanted to have investment with gold. But the mere fact is that I am not able to invest with it because of big capital that I need. So I don't have choice to find some other good investment, and I found out that bitcoin has what it takes to be a good substitute for gold investments.
That's a positive attitude of being honest, most of us cannot really afford to invest with gold since that is very expensive but thanks to bitcoin we have great options and as much as we can make profit investing with gold, we can make more profit in bitcoin if this will continue to progress.
11358  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Why Gambling is Fun? on: October 24, 2016, 05:49:57 AM
As a moderator i can say i get to talk to people from all over the world and watch people cheer each other on when they get good wins.
You meet some interesting characters that's for sure.
What site are you moderating sir? Are you working for a particular site, one site I know that it has a chat room is nitrogen and I have been playing in their site and still active now for many years already and it's a good experience chatting with online punters.
11359  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Where can i buy bitcoins on: October 24, 2016, 05:46:34 AM
We have few trusted sites. Coinbase or Localbitcoin are said to be trustworthy. This would be the correct time to buy as well. Find out the traders who got positive trust points in trading. Buy from them and provide your valuable feedback to them so that others like you would be aware before trading with them.

As  you mentioned and  any  other  members here   they do recommend  localbitcoins  and  coinbase   since they  are  commonly used when   you decide to purchase  bitcoins. If you want to  buy   bitcoin  on  other means  like   buying  from person online   just make sure  on his  reputation before  transacting  to avoid any risk.

with a good reputation from the sellers, at least we can avoid the bad thing that will happen and beside that, the seller will give best service for their customer. and before you make a deal, better you ask about the rate for sure and if you decide to buy, then you can buy it.
Buy bitcoins in an exchange sites, that would be safer and faster compared to buying from someone else here, you know if we are buying bitcoins, we need to ensure the safety because we are dealing with people who are anonymous but when you buy bitcoin in local exchange, you know who are your transacting with.
11360  Economy / Economics / Re: Loans too risky? on: October 24, 2016, 05:39:51 AM
yes there is no doubt about this that loans are too risky if you are load to some for investment in bitcoin or to invest it in some other place and lost the money then what will you do. i think you will never recover your loan from him.

Of course before you are going to loan make sure that you have your source of income and you are just loaning because you need to add some capital for your investment. And don't loan because you don't have money or bitcoin because if that is your reason you are not going to be approved by the lender or any lending website.
I have not tried lending money here online because every time I need money I just approach a lending firm here in our place. I can see they are growing their business so that means lending is profitable in the actual world but not here online.

Of course lend always beneficial. Only need to save money for this. And to reduce the risks of loans need to give customers a proven and reliable

Easy to say dude but it is hard to apply that in real practice, I wish it is easy to lend here online and you can ensure that this people will not run and hide after they get the money, we are living in an anonymous world so the risk is really higher therefore not recommended to lend here.
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