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1141  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: May 11, 2014, 02:11:51 PM
Hello!

We've launched a new website - bitmonero.org

Please feel free to visit it. Smiley

does this site already have all the new features and updates?


Yep! the developer is back and working on this coin. The latest info is there

Yes, stay tuned  Wink

TFT:

1. will you be forking bimonero into a new coin or are you expecting monero to fork away into a new coin.
2. you now have two projects. fantomcoin and bitmonero ( I assume independent from monero)
3. what is your goal in producing two bytecoin clones.
4. how is fantomcoin different from bitmonero.
5. why is another clone of bytecoin, another cryptonight coin necessary.
6. have you added to the security/anonymity that cryptonight algorithum proposes... i.e honeypenny's work seems very thought out. (you have created 2 coins in a shorter period than honeypenny has taken to produce one coin.) either you are a super genius or is this a pump and dump or is it regret. regret of walking away from monero when you were ok with name change.
7. clearly you are knowledgeable and capable. why not work with the current monero team and build that coin. there are concerns about anynomity not being at all guaranteed (this is true for zerocash as well) since the IP address of sender is not obfuscated. is this not a concern for you as you are currently prolaiming fantomcoin and bitmonero as anonymous. is it what you had said about the emission curve of bitmonero at time of release that it would be flatter but in reality it was not. therefore, can your claims be trusted.


thanks.
1142  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 11, 2014, 02:00:23 PM
with the upcomming pool technology for this coin I have some questions concerns
1. with the transaction time of 1 minute. will the pool make it impossible to mine solo as a solo miner will be competeting against a pool. Meaning, the solo miner may find a block but given the transaction time so low, it will likely be orphaned and thus wasted work and energy.
2. will you create a mechanism so that a poole can be created by many. otherwise if there are only 1-2 pools, will this not essentially centralize the currency. exactly the opposite of what its goal is aimed to be.

to the current devs. with the current activity and creation of bcn forks in the last few weeks alongside the newbie accounts who are bashing this coin sowing confusion, this coin has execptional potential. Please consider the above and assure your success.

I would like to create a pool, and I am sure others would like to as well. as the technology was made easily available to you, can you do the same now and carry the ball even further than where cryptonote/bytecoin left it. make it now more available to those that do not know coding to any level near your ability. essentially I am asking for a walkthrough step by step.
1143  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 11, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
How many threads does this coin need?

one. you are in the right one
1144  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HP]HoneyPenny[ANONYMITY&UNLINKABILITY|PoW-BCHAIN-BASED|NO-IPO/NO-PREMINE] on: May 11, 2014, 04:26:09 AM
there is a user saying that there is no true anonimity until there is a way of obfuscating the IP address. Until that is done, the anonimity provided by cryptonote is not assured. can you please comment on this.

following are his thoughts (anonymint):


CryptoNote's one-time ring signature as a way of obfuscating who is the payer (the spender), is optional and can only be used when there are other payees who have matching input amounts. In other words, it can't do any obfuscation for you on spending unless there are other coins that have the same balance as yours.

That very infrequent opportunity for use is coupled with constant use of elliptical curve cryptography which is known to be broken under quantum computing, as well is suspect to broken by the NSA[1] or could be broken since it is number theoretic public key cryptography.

And the use of one-time ring signatures mucks up the pruning of the block chain of spent addresses. There is a tweak to improve this over the current CryptoNote (one of the tweaks I alluded to upthread).

Bottom line is most of your anonymity will come from obfuscating your IP address with something more reliable than Tor and I2P, not from the block chain mixing of CryptoNote or Zerocash/coin, i.e. if your IP is correlated to your identity, then the one-time ring signature doesn't obscure your identity when you spend.

The case where the one-time ring signature is really useful is a transaction with multiple inputs wherein the spender is merging his coins, thus enabling tracing of those coins to the same entity (the current spender). And it is very unfortunate the one-time ring signature is optional in this case, because it is the identity of the upchain spenders who suffer from this action by the current spender, thus the motivation is not there.

So we can see as it is currently structured, CryptoNote doesn't really support anonymity much.

Sorry to blow holes in your enthusiasm. Reality sucks if you haven't taken the time to do some serious work before launching.

Note that the use of a separate payee address for each transaction is a very useful strategy. This is a positive aspect of CryptoNote that adds anonymity, but again it is not so effective without reliable IP obfuscation, as the payee will reveal himself on spending.
1145  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 10, 2014, 11:05:54 PM
I don't qualify for giveaway.

but that is just the way the cookie crumbles
1146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BMR vs MRO. Time to make it fair. on: May 10, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
Bitmonero is a pretty cool name for a coin. Everyone got used to it and there was no need to rename

Everyone did not get used it. the renaming made it a community coin and not a tft coin.
And that is a good thing.

1147  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 10, 2014, 08:33:32 PM


Hey emontmon, do you want to try out the nice new GUI with me? Feedback is critical now that Bitkoot has put something out. I'm pretty sure you were using windows, so please let me know?

I can help you with it if you need help setting it up?

I am on the road. Won't be back till monday. Following conversation on phone. Will be happy to on Monday
1148  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 10, 2014, 08:19:06 PM
TFT: "I'm working on another good feature now, so stay tuned. "

Looks like soon BitMonero will no doubt another coin with great upgrades made by the dev. SO, MRO and BMR are two diff coins with two diff future. IMO, MRO may have a bright future in case devs would suggest new ideas. Now it looks like TFT has much more to suggest

I don't understand how this makes any sense.

Are you saying he follows through with intention and direction because to date he has not.
1149  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: May 10, 2014, 08:14:08 PM
What will monero fans do while the developer of Bitmonero is back and working hard on this cryptocurrensy?

Nothing. Just as what can tft do now. He either forks or joins monero. Unless monero introduces new ideas, they they will hard fork. Either way the problem will resolve itself.



Indeed. Now Monero's dev must  show us some news ideas otherwise they don't have anything special to make their coin attractive.
I see no perspective of Monero as they've lost TFT and only thing they can do is to shout about Monero and gossip that other coins's dev are trying to blacken the reputation

Well considering tft did not do anything original with monero (bitmonero), and then he created fantom coin he comes across as unoriginal and frantic withought direction. Perhapse even schizophrenic as he is so non communicative and suspicious.  
1.bitmonero horrible name that he chose even though he wanted a vote that never materialized.
2. Fantom coin development with non optimized miner.
3. Back to bitmonero to attempt to resurrect it as a new coin despite monero and bit monero are one and the same coin.
4. Questionable support from a plethora of new individuals that give the impression they have no idea how tft messed up the bitmonero (monero) launch.
5. He developed fantomcoincoin because he wanted merged mining. That means he does as he pleases despite Consensus. So far he does not in still any confidence.
6. I suspect he will do it again.
1150  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][BMR] Bitmonero - a new coin based on CryptoNote technology - LAUNCHED on: May 10, 2014, 06:06:57 PM
What will monero fans do while the developer of Bitmonero is back and working hard on this cryptocurrensy?

Nothing. Just as what can tft do now. He either forks or joins monero. Unless monero introduces new ideas, they they will hard fork. Either way the problem will resolve itself.

1151  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BMR vs MRO. Time to make it fair. on: May 10, 2014, 06:03:23 PM
Monero was voted by community. Lamenting after the fact is silly.

There are now few bcn clones.  Why not direct attention to those and offer support. I remember at the very beginning people called the coin a shitcoin. Scam coin and pump and dump. It seemed people formed their opinion without reading the thread. Please go over the original thread and educate yourself. Now it seems those individuals that made a rash decision see their mistake. To what end is unknown to me. Read the posts from bcn, bitmonero, monero, honeypenny.  LEARN about the coin and offer your support to the coin you think is worth you attention. 

1152  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][HP]HoneyPenny[ANONYMITY&UNLINKABILITY|PoW-BCHAIN-BASED|NO-IPO/NO-PREMINE] on: May 09, 2014, 02:11:07 PM
Anonymity seems has good ideas and point. As you are considering premine vs taxes, and there are good arguments for and against,  it might be some to consider.

The following is a quote from him.
As far as I can see (unless I am missing something), I think it is silly and doesn't resolve the issues I explained upthread.

I would like to comment on this issue of fairness and premine. I offer a "reality check" like water on the face. Apologies.

In my opinion, the coin that wins is the one that has the best developers. Developers need to be paid. When I say developers, I mean several people like myself (or apparently smooth?) who are extremely capable programmers and computer scientists. That coin will win regardless of the level of premine retained to pay the bounties. I would hope the original CN developers could be paid. Communism sucks.

The CryptoNote coins at this time all have a problem that they are too difficult to mine and use.

The are not CPU only. They are not anonymous because they don't obscure the IP address and Tor is a honeypot.

They do nothing to decentralize pools. Two Bitcoin pools control more than 50% of the network.

There are many development issues that need to be addressed, e.g. decentralized exchanges.

I suspect there is no way you get there without a premine to pay development costs. I mean we are talking about man-months or man-years of development. In my opinion (as a person who has developed million user commercial software projects), we can't just take some ByteCoin C code and slap a few tweaks on it and release it and expect to complete all the development work that needs to be done.
1153  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 11:21:30 PM
HOPE you don't fork over weekend. I am out of town.
1154  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 08:16:32 PM
david

how do i update. the link you provided is for linux and mac.
it says simlar for windows.

unfortunately for me i use windows, I need step by step.

thank you.
1155  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 07:50:24 PM
well.

I for one have depended on input from the community. I do not follow all opinions or statements as fact. I measure it and then act accordingly. however, taco has said that we should update the blockchain. cont to mine with current binaries.

i was wondering if the reason I have not gotten any blocks in the last week is because I have been mining on a corrupted blockchain.

thanks.
1156  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 07:24:17 PM
is it the reason that I have not found a block in the last week because

1. the hash rate is so high
2. the blockchain attack that has occured (conspiracy theory -- tft and friends)
3. both 1 and 2

another question:
1. is cryptonote  cicada 3301 with an ultra optimized miner
2. bytecoin user and satoshi are one and the same.

should we hold off mining until we get the right blockchain. thank you
1157  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 08, 2014, 02:01:32 PM
anonymint

my recommendations is join the group now. participate in open source. coin is still young. has pontial. your contribution can add to the value of the coin and its success. since you are participating now, i am sure your efforts will be handsomely rewarded. I imagine anyone participating with bitcoin in the first year did very well. you would be here in the first 4 weeks.
1158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [HP] Name contest for HoneyPenny. on: May 07, 2014, 11:27:06 PM
I think there have been many good suggestions.
please look over them. chose one and get the website. we do not want cybersquaters.

I vote

1. pretium
2. pretiavo


strong name. rolls of the tongue. dominant sounding. eloquent. easy to pronounce.
 
1159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: BMR vs MRO. Time to make it fair. on: May 07, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
This is kind of silly... anyone can make a bunch of profiles on here and vote it one way or the other.

If TFT wants to continue bitmonero as a separate fork he can easily do so by introducing some hardfork change into his repo.  monero-project repo will continue on its own. So far I have only introduced softforking changes, and both our clients are compatible with the network, though his is out of date.

Anyone can make the second announcement of the fresh coin.
Anyone can make optimized miner and pretend to be saints.

This is silly.

rias

i thought that it was made clear the miner change was pretty simple. I am not a coder by any means but consensus came across ahhhhh. it was a simple coding change.

there is nothing wrong with alt coins. Rias, why dont you lead the masses and show us how it is done. I have made it clear, I am a sheep. I will follow the most fair and promising tech.

I think most people are sheep and will follow as well. The unfair thing that happend with bitmonero is
1. TFT proposed a vote for name but this voting never materialized. options were never given
--> he chose the name.
2. TFT did not take into consideration the 60 second confirmation time. it was pointed out the possible flaw but he did not awknowlege it.
--he changed it to 1 minute. making it easier to get orphan blocks.
3. OP was not updated regularly. making it very hard for new comers to participate.
--he did not respond and kept mining the coin himself. what he was most content with was getting a fork of bcn. he saw the pontential. given the current HR, he was right. but he jumped first. others volunteered to help. I do not know to what extent he included those people.

I do not think it was instamined. it is difficult now, and I feel you feel left out. I understand that. I tried for 5 days to participate with mro but couldnt. it was directly due to TFT structure.
1160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [HP] Name contest for HoneyPenny. on: May 07, 2014, 09:59:11 PM
I think
1. pretiavo = i am making this up. But prefix of Latin word for value. Suffix latin word for portion.

2. Pretium= of value

Nameless is good as a description but not for name of co8n. Worse than honeypenny.  A lot worse. I actually don't mind honeypenny but it would not be a good name for a coin either
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