I've had a trade with scamc0p few days ago but it was a small trade of $1.6 on BCT. He paid me via Perfect Money. However, I'm shocked if this user is icefire as I've had many deals with him as he has proved to be reliable. It's unbelievable that he can scam anyone and I'm just speechless. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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It just came to my notice last week that Default Trust accounts too are sold here and may be escrow accounts too. This account sales happen privately and with the result nobody knows who is the new owner of the account and such accounts deserve a negative trust to prove that they are sold but nobody cares. I sometimes wish that Signature Campaigns are banned so that account sales will reduce in number.
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It's not blocking IPs I guess but the forum is working very slow these days. I get a timeout error and Webpage not available error most of the times while other sites work well. It was down yesterday as well and today again I couldn't access the forum for about 10-15 minutes.
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There are valid situations for escrow leaving a positive feedback. Eg:- if the trade had a big amount or if the trade took a long time and if there was good involvement from buyer/seller, then leaving a feedback is good. But leaving feedback for each and every trades escrowed or each and every trades done is not at all a good idea especially if the user is in default trust list. See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=223869, for example. TBZ should not leave feedback like that IMHO. Even though the amount may be big, the person canno be termed trusted with just one transation IMO. If the person keeps trading with another for a long time, it's fine but if escrow is used, then only escrow deserves a feedback and not the two users.
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The time taken for transactions to get confirmed is a disappointing factor about bitcoins as sometimes it takes 30 minutes while sometimes it takes days. I don't like the fee which matters to get transactions to get confirmed. Some times we need to double spend as well to make the confirmation done faster.
Also, I don't like the Blockchain fee that's applied when amount received in the BTC account are less. It sometimes costs 50% of the amount received which isn't worth.
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....Money does make us greedy but if we have ethics, we shouldn't promote scams....
Sure, but the criteria for leaving negative trust are (as you know) You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer. Not: "I believe this person doesn't conform to my code of ethics". There aren't very many proven scams running signature campaigns. Someone running a sig from a site which others consider likely to be a scam may reasonably say "Until it's proved that they are, why shouldn't I take the money?" Does that warrant red numbers and a label saying the above? There is no defined reason to leave a negative trust and DT members make their own decision while leaving a trust rating. If they find a user to be untrustworthy (for any X, Y, Z reason), they'll leave a negative for him. I've seen people giving ratings for the signature also they promote as it's a scam website. Similarly people promoting ponzi webistes (not owned by them) are also marked as scammers. It can be termed as a trust abuse but that's the way it works and we can't help it even though we disagree or agree with it.
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People usually choose to become an escrow to earn reputation from this community but unless you have done a lot of trades here (50+) and have spent a lot time in this community (+2 years), it's tough to earn positive trust from DT members. Just be trustworthy and be active here. The trust doesn't matter then.
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can we use localbitcoins Escrow?
No. I will use an escrow from Bitcointalk and MZ is the best one for me as of now.
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It's not ethical to promote a scam website whether in the signature or in the avatar as whatever you promote, it hampers your reputation. I've seen many people wearing scam signatures and they have received a negative feedback for those but from untrusted members and it doesn't make them a scammer. Money does make us greedy but if we have ethics, we shouldn't promote scams.
For example: Tomorrow if anyone offers me money to promote drugs and alcohol and offers me a huge amount which can buy me just anything. It doesn't mean I will promote it.
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I have INR 136.89 Skrill which I want to sell for an equivalent amount via PM/OKPay/Paytm. 5% discount if payment is made via Indian Bank Transfer. Will be adding more funds in Skrill soon.
Buyers need to go first else we can use escrow.
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What's your rate in BTC for Skrill? Also let me know what minimum amount you can accept via Skrill.
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TC will read this thread and if he wishes, he'll reply. I don't mind QS being in the Default Trust list but am saddened by the fact he sells DT accounts which I hope doesn't go in wrong hands. Selling DT accounts is not only risky but unethical.
erm, as far as i know he stopped selling any accounts at all, you can even see it in his other account ACCTseller, his personal message says so. Im sure he will confirm. Then why he is still making bids for accounts ? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1127705.msg11913549#msg11913549And you should say: he stopped selling accounts using his known alts. I meant accounts on default trust, he stopped selling them, probably because he doesnt have any more, i thought he stopped selling any kind of accounts but i don't know, that's why i said i was waiting for him to confirm. QS said that when he was removed from Badbear's list, he had a DT account which he doesn't own anymore. I guess he sold it and it means he is still selling DT accounts. I am glad that you don't appreciate him selling DT accounts.
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TC will read this thread and if he wishes, he'll reply. I don't mind QS being in the Default Trust list but am saddened by the fact he sells DT accounts which I hope doesn't go in wrong hands. Selling DT accounts is not only risky but unethical.
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hi i have $8 neteller how much i can get BTC ?
I don't think she takes Neteller my friend. The Original Post says: PM/OKPay/Paytm/NEFT I haven't heard of NEFT before but I doubt it is Neteller. NEFT is Electronic Fund Transfer via Banks and yes, I don't take Neteller ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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0.01191798 BTC available for sale.
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Alternate accounts are allowed for multiple reasons, one which I would 100% agree on is too allow users to share unpopular views and opinions without it being linked to their main account.
Account farming for the intent to sell on afterwards or other 'malicious'(?) acts is an entirely different matter. Although, account sales are allowed, so as far as I'm aware account farming is allowed. Although both are frowned upon by the community.
@bold: It id definitely a good option but don't you feel that this is not PURELY a discussion forum? When trading takes place here, this same option creates a lot of problems. I just wish bitcointalk did have a SEPARATE discussion forum and trading forum, where the former would allow creating multiply accounts and where the later wouldn't allow it. Farming accounts doesn't make this forum profit in any case so allowing it doesn't make sense. Having two separate forums would also prevent these threads popping up to ban signature campaigns as the forums would be completely unrelated to each other. People who are interested in discussions could be at peace then with no spamming from newbies and signature campaign members.
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Multiple account creations should definitely not be allowed but this forum believes that everyone needs their privacy and hence they can create an alt account and share their opinion without causing any harm to their main account. Also, when one account gets banned temporarily, a user is allowed to create a new account and appeal. Besides this, there has not been any specific reason given why these alt accounts should be created. It doesn't benefit the community nor the other users and instead it gives rise to more spam and scam.
With regards to scamming, I have stated many reasons earlier as to why it should be moderated but now I've just given up on it. I prefer using an escrow now instead of getting scammed.
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If you term a person who is quite rude or unprofessional person as a bad buyer, it has been few cases where I have met such buyers. I just give them a final price which I have set for my product and it's a take it or leave it deal for them. When they finally agree to dealing, they pay first and I send them the product/gift card. Sometimes I also meet unprofessional bad buyers and I need to ask them about 10-15 times to pay me and that's why I avoid dealing with such buyers even though the person may be trustworthy but the person doesn't keep up to his/her word. I don't keep anyone waiting and hence don't like to wait for over a week for my payment. If you term a scammer or a person who exhibits a sketchy behavior as a bad buyer, I ask them to go first or use an escrow. If they do then the deal is taken forward else they themslves cancel it. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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You clearly have no clue about what you're talking about. Toggling that setting allows the feedback to be seen, but doesn't suddenly give them trusted status.
I don't think making untrusted feedback visible is completely necessary, as even before I toggled the setting, I tended to click the "Show Untrusted Feedbck" button on each page. OP, I think you should look a bit more thoroughly, even to the point of checking the reference links and thepeople giving the trust in an attempt to check if the trust is valid and if it is possible that the trust givers are alts.
My bad. I thought this option would make the untrusted feedback appear trusted. I too actually got scammed due to this option not being visible by default and that time I dint even know what's the difference between trusted and untrusted feedback. I agree with the OP to have this option enabled by default.
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