I can't get over how smooth BitPay makes it to checkout: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8186%2F8388430574_5ace5cce4e_c.jpg&t=663&c=egLeXljWmWsFDA)
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#5 They will ship on January 31, 2013.
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lol it'd be pretty funny to see one of these fired from a gun, silver isn't the hardest metal in the world ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Pretty sure lead isn't very hard either. Rubber comes to mind.
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Nope, since none of us work there. There's a manufacturing company an hour away from me, NSA Industries LLC, that's one of my clients. Can you name two of the engineers that work there? Adam LaClair Brian Dennis See? That wasn't so hard. That was too easy. Name one redhead. Mongol like redheads.
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would be quite ingenious to get customers to pay in BTC in june at $7 (or woteva) and then when BTC is $14 refund due to no product. Ofcourse you would be refunding in USD, so company X makes $7/BTC for doing nothing. why the hell is no one doing that ? hmm Perhaps I shall start producing ASIC's... hopefully my maths is correct ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Your argument may work for Tom's ASIC company, but not in this case. All the bitcoins were converted to dollars via BitPay and are currently all are on deposit in some bank. The best one could claim is that if all the pre-order monies are returned via the reverse process, BFL would have earned interest on ~$2M. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs2.postimage.org%2Fokxft6fx5%2F2013_01_15_20_44_44.png&t=663&c=eNpmxteYPYJN_Q) Note Joe didn't outright state that he's lying, perhaps to protect his brand. I, too, have read and own his book, and noticed the micro tell when the video was first linked and before discussion was offered on it, but opted to only register the information oppose to commenting on it like I'm now doing here. There's marshmallows at both camps: It's a scam; BFL is a viable entity, albeit stumbles for opting to be pursue uncharted territory. Unfortunately, the marshmallows taste the same in both camps, so one has to choose witch camp they want to be seen in and whom they desire to associate themselves with. Given just a little more time, we hope to learn if Schroeder's Chicken's feathers were ruffled in Pandora's box of fans.
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Perhaps bitcoin's destiny is to be the gold standard for some other money.
I predict another digital currency at some point (perhaps with reversible transactions, or with the possibility for fractional-reserve lending) that uses bitcoin as its backing (pegged to the value of, and always exchangeable for, bitcoins)
Say it's called a NEUBUX, and 10,000 NEUBUX = 1 BTC. If a bank has 10,000 BTC on deposit, and maintains a 10% reserve on loans, it could lend out 1,000,000,000 NEUBUX to borrowers. The bank could issue a NEUBUX credit card, with reversible charges built into the system.
After all, GOLD transactions are not reversible. Nor is GOLD suitable for fractional reserve lending. But the currencies based on gold are.
People claim that Bitcoin is backed by nothing. Imagine a future world where all crypto-currencies are backed by Bitcoin.
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No fair... no genetic mutations! I call fowl! ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Wow what a small guy ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Mongol like watchin' small guys ridin' 'em big cocks. This thread just seems to keep evolving and innovating... At what post count should the title be changed to The Mega Cock Thread? Somewhere in America, there's a roadside attraction featuring a headless cock. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.ddmcdn.com%2Fgif%2Froadside-statues-4.jpg&t=663&c=l_48LRDjayaV2A)
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Hey BFL FAN BOY!
I'm just trying to understand wtf this is about -- is this an issue about BFL fan boys versus people who don't like BFL? Or if BFL is scamming? It's been said a couple of times that this is not a "court of law" and that legalese or line-by-line responses are sperging. There is another side to that coin. It's not okay to waltz in here and say that someone is a scammer because you don't like them. That's why I asked for a list of facts earlier. In response I got a bunch of facts like "Sonny committed a crime 10 years ago" and "Josh is a big fat jerk". I'm sorry, I should have said, facts related to whether or not BFL is scamming. Anyway, no one said your facts had to prove anything. Relax bro. It's okay to hate someone. You have a right to hate people and talk shit in a free society. LOL I like how you are telling me "how things are". Thanks but no thanks. No one asked for you input. But keep trying to sound intelligent. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) No one asked for your input either. We're all just weighing in. What Monster Trent said has some real weight. We need to get the address of the fab, and have someone go down there and pay a visit. Excellent idea! I say six of us should go to the FAB and they should give us free reign to walk around and inspect the plant. The FAB should have nothing to hide. Why didn't I think of this earlier? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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What none of these ASIC vendors seem eager to point out to us is that the process of making an ASIC is not just a linear set of steps, but has conditional branching statements. Something like:
1: Design 2: Simulate 3: Produce a prototype on MPW, get it wirebound and packaged, then delivered. 4: Test the prototype. If testing fails, go to step 1. 5: Full wafer production, etc, more steps.
The hard part is getting past step 4.
http://www.edaboard.com/thread129919.htmlRe: TO be ASIC or not
If you are not experienced in ASIC design you should contact an ASIC design company to help you through the process. They offer tools, relationships and expertise that you will need to get it done.
The design process, in broad strokes, is as follows:
1. Write a specification that defines what the chip is suposed to do. Try to include example input files and desired outputs. The spec should also cover things like desired packaging with its pin configuration, what power supply will be used, etc.
2. Write an executable description of the chip behavior. This is usually in an RTL (register transfer level) language like Verilog or VHDL. Sometimes a higher level model of the chip is constructed first using C, C++ or System-C. But eventually you end up with an RTL description.
3. Perform functional simulation of the RTL to verify if it does what you want it to do.
4. Synthesize the RTL description to a gate level dscription that targets a particular foundry's library (e.g.: use Synopsys' Design Compiler tool or similar).
5. Implement the physical design of the chip with an automated place & route tool (e.g.: from Cadence, Synopsys, Magma or Mentor Graphics)
6. Perform physical verification to check that the chip layout matches what you wanted and meets all physical design rules.
7. Send the final layout and some test vectors to the fabrication partner to make, test and package some prototype chips.
8. Test the physical prototypes to verify they work. If they work you can go straight to volume production. If they don't, you will have to correct the error and make some more prototypes.
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I'm thinking the temporary marriage between BitPay and BFL to split the $13K booth rate was arranged last summer or so. Surely not in November or December, for the booth needed to be locked in and artwork for the display had to get underway.
Regardless of whatever sentiment may have arisen after that, it's good business etiquette to honor and maintain the marriage unless, of course, one of the parties is, beyond a shadow of a doubt, a nefarious entity (of which the underlined clause isn't the case), then you annul the contract. Otherwise, move forward, as they both did, and hope for a great show, and build further mind share for Bitcoin--as they both did.
Full disclosure: This post was written on my Toshiba Satellite A135-S7404 while sitting on the porcelain throne that may, or may not, need a good cleaning with equal portions of bleach and ammonia. (apologies to Bryan)
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If RandyFolds were still around, I'd bet he like a good boney cock: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn.backyardchickens.com%2Fd%2Fd9%2Fd9ac26f6_SkinnyRooster.jpeg&t=663&c=CigfBozAp6sEBA) Then you have those skinny dudes prancin' 'bout town tethered to a giant cock: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F_Al5DwZmCWfI%2FSqAUDfu6-uI%2FAAAAAAAAB5o%2FXlewHS3E8TA%2Fs400%2FMan%2Band%2Ba%2Bbig%2Bcock.jpg&t=663&c=DZdzZHxykhrbdw)
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I've only used the option twice, and was compelled enough to include the following:
A Manifesto is needed. Oybee | Your quick digital storefront
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In otherwords, yet another fucking scam...
If it is, it's not a very good one. A good scam doesn't give anyone their money back, unless it's so they can scam even more money. Unless you got lucky when you put all the BTC deposits in one wallet and the price risen 20% and take your chances on the CC payments over 90 days old. Minus Dave's wages, there's enough left over to feed a family for a while without having to eat leftovers.
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Also, anyone got anymore contact info on Davebuzz or Tom? Or if you seen them hang out in an IRC channel lately, all I got was dave's email.
Someone on IRC said Tom changed his number.... Someone please post pics of him again. His avatar was so cool. https://plus.google.com/photos/107082417778531020969/albumsI didn't know that Tom once boxed Mike Tyson. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8497%2F8382520930_b2dd8f5309.jpg&t=663&c=1ixwf_FwEWCK_w)
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It's not that Tom was "out of contact" it's that he didn't show up for the meeting, and was no where to be found. Big difference. All trust should be gone at that point.
People do we really need to do the 5 stages of Acceptance DENIAL--IS all good just had a flat tyre on the way to the meeting and dropped his phone changing the tyre and it broke ANGER - IS all these negative people...BASTARDs that caused him to have issues and accidently push the wrong button by making tx to his account..he was in not trying to steal our money FEAR - What am i going to do without all my BTC mining $$ ..i told my boss to stick his job as I have bASIC mining rigs ...YEAH!!!...oh no..for the humanity ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) GRIEF - oh why did i listen to tom my life has no meaning without those glorious bASIC ASIC mining rigs...all the free sex i was going to get with having 180g/Hashing BTC power output ACCEPTANCE - Is/Was a scam of some description and he got a free ride using peoples money--time to invest in the next person who want to use our money by leveraging our greed ..BFL AVALON...i always knew u where the right one for me ...lol So it goes JUMP SHIP - Why haven't I done this before? I see a lot of potential there. And I can still be considered an early adapter. Litecoin mining, here I come!
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Those are the people who will influence the world and determine your future in thirty years. ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) A couple weeks ago I overheard my nephew say, "I'm not stupid. I know stuff!" So I chimed in and put him to the test. Q: What's the name of first lady? A: Mrs. Clinton. I can't remember her first name. Besides, the Vice President ain't that important. Q: Who's on the dollar bill? A: I know that one. Wait! It's... Damn it! Q: How many planets are there? A: I don't like science, so I never took it. Q: Isn't it required to take a minimum amount of science credits to graduate? A: I don't remember. That was four years ago. Q: Why do ice cubes float? A: When water freezes, all the air is pumped out. A: Lincoln. Just like on the penny. That was an easy one. Q: How many continents are there? A: (He looked out the window and studied the neighbor's flag before answering. It wasn't that windy, so he took a stab at it and said...) Six rows with nine stars... (and with a smile) ... 52. (at the very least, he was closer by a factor of two then if he would have done the math correctly) Q: What was your school's mascot? A: What's a mascot? Then it was time for him to leave, but not before the following exchange. "I got that twenty I owe you and can pay it back now. But I'll need to borrow forty for gas for the week." "So, you want to borrow another twenty?" "No. I'm paying you the twenty I owe you, but need to borrow forty." "It's the same thing." "No it ain't! I'm paying you back the twenty I owe you. We'll be even. I will then borrow forty dollars for gas. Only one loan. Not two. You don't get it!" I decided to do it his way, for I already knew how it was going to go down. "Fine! We'll do it your way. First give me the twenty you me." "I don't have it on me. It's at home on the dresser in the bedroom next to my phone that I also forgot." "No problem! When you bring me the twenty you owe me, I'll loan you the forty you need." "Great!" I haven't seen him since Christmas. In his mind, he didn't want to repay me that twenty bucks even if it meant that he would have been into me for forty. The youth today have a hard time even understanding money. I've seen them make a call to borrow ten bucks and spend ten dollars in gas to come and get it. They also think that having a job interview is the same as getting their first paycheck and start borrowing against it. And that's not even mentioning the creative ways they have to sneak in clean piss from their brother who doesn't partake for the required drug test. Two months later, the entire cycle starts all over again. You know why? Wait for it... Because they know stuff.
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Someone please point it out for me, Those look like the same photos from awhile ago, I would assume that someone would've gone "LOOK!, ITS BROKEN!" I believe it's the bottom chip of the two that are in the middle. See how it has a bulge to it, whereas the other seven chips are flat. Somebody confirm or correct me in this regard.
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