4.4 hmmm I wouldnt buy that. And yes I do think you are correct that profits will drop 30-50% pretty soon, they have been elevated for an extended period. Someone please correct my math if I am wrong, but in the last say 6 months since 3080 release, we have grown in hashrate the equivalent of 1 - 1.25 million 3080 GPUs, or say 2 million 5700s. Considering that represents 700-900 million dollars in gpu sales for 6 months....we can realistically say that (by checking Q4 results of nvidia and AMD which will come out soon I suppose) they did not sell for that much in GPUs, and not all gpus went to mining. So ASICS are out in very large numbers.
I have 2x 5700 xt coming tomorrow. and I am on evga's 3000 series que lists for 11 different gpus. the que list will be slow to fill. for now i think I do nada. |
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this is the BTC only section.
I asked to mods to move this to alt coins.
my guess is you have 3gb or 4gb cards.
if so you can mine kawpow at nicehash and auto convert to BTC
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If i could, i would buy just 3060Ti. 13 Gpus per rig 2 psu. thx  I have random models, random manufacturers, random all..... Driving 150km around visiting ppl/shops and ripping thiers GPU out of them...sad time for everyone. So understand me, when i`m writing, that 3080 could be a good choice. Understand me, when i`ll say, that for a simple reason, 3090 is a better choice - i can buy it. If it is available and price is not stupid high it is worth it. |
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At op. most people fuck up by rushing in and buying too much gear. lets us say you build a 3 card 3080 rig. you got good prices and paid about 2600usd to build the rig. it does 270mh which is about 19 a day it burns 700 watts which is about 2.50 a day at 15 cent power. you are netting 16.50 a day ______________________________________________________________________________ soooo 2600/16.50 = 158 days.. paid the gear off. Seems like building 2 or 3 or 4 rigs works. maybe it does or maybe it does not if there is a crash. _________________________________________________________________________ __________________________________________________________ build 1 rig and hold 2600 cash on the Side for the second rig. and mine if there is a crash even if you mine at a small loss. WTF? this is mine and hold. And can garner big profit. ______________________________________________________________ you need to weigh both methods above. Pedal to the metal full speed ahead vs slow and steady wins the race. I dance between the two. I study a lot of ratios. coin price coin difficulty my cash on hand my gear on hand my debt my coins on hand I juggle all that. Here is a method that can help. sell off used gear at good prices look at ebay right now. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=s9%20hashboard&_sacat=0&rt=nc&_udlo=75&_udhi=200look who is selling the cheapest used working s9 hashboards. Me way better than anyone else. Why is that? because I held spare parts. hoping for coins to go up in price. thus spare parts go up in price. So rushing in to build can be a bad move. or not. It is what makes this fun. |
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Miner29, thank you. Those are great points. I had thoughts that spare fans would be good. I am interested in your smart switches, would you mind sharing details with us on that? I would like to be able to remotely control anything I can. I use remote desktop software at work, so I can work from home if needed, just like I'm sitting there. I would like to setup that same interface if possible for my rigs. Probably mostly so I can count pennies every day LOL. But I like the ability to be able to shut it down if needed, that's cool. Do GPUs alert you if a fan goes out, or do you need to physically look at them to make sure they are all spinning?
The temp rise is the alert. If you have the miner screen up you can see the fan speed drop or go to zero. Usually its a gradual rising of temp as fans wear out. What crazy is some fans didnt last a couple of years...some i have are on their 5th year running 24/7.... I run Ethos and mmpOS on my rigs so they monitor temp snd will shut down card or rig if a problem arises. As for power plugs i use these... https://www.amazon.com/KMC-Monitoring-Compatible-Required-Function/dp/B07313TH7B/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=kmc+plug&qid=1610718643&sr=8-1The actual unit is marked at 100-240v. I use pdus then have these on each plug on the pdu. Also monitors power usage by the plug. Phone app gives me control from anywhere. Was the least expensive solution i found. i have over 40 of them installed. I only run them on rigs rated 10a so no where near that for a rig. Need wifi for them to work. They make a handy plug to go into my pdu C15R to the C14 plug on the switch. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBIC1XG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1If you are on 110v power can plug straight to outlet. For my biggest psus 2600watt...they take dual power plugs and just stick 2 switches one to each plug. im on 240 so i have to use the little adapter plugs. This ad brought to you by amazon.....  They monitor power use which is nice. here is what the gear I have is running in my house. Just a 2 board s9 with braiins firmware. 1 of 8 plugs is power on. And we are running at 117 volts as the gear can do 110 to 204 volts.   |
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And if it was not for BTC. you would not have caught them. ie A bag of dirty old fiat/cash would not have been traced. BTC is far more accountable than cash is. |
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well lots of dead boards all 3. driver-btm-c5.c:13494:bitmain_c5_init: Chain[J6] has 0 asicdriver-btm-c5.c:13494:bitmain_c5_init: Chain[J7] has 0 asicdriver-btm-c5.c:13494:bitmain_c5_init: Chain[J8] has 0 asicMax pcb temp : -100. this looks wrong how to fix. you need a working s9. swap one good board into the bad s9 and see if the board works if the board works leave the dead s9 board out swap the dead board into the good s9 if the board is dead put it aside. do for all three boards. it is more often you have dead boards than a dead controller. Ebay sellers sell spare boards both good and dead ones. https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=s9+hash+board&_sacat=0&LH_BIN=1&rt=nc&_udlo=75&_udhi=150note to be transparent I have a listing for tested boards in the link above. Also if you live near me I would meet and take it to my home to test. I live in Howell, NJ, USA |
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Miner29, thank you. Those are great points. I had thoughts that spare fans would be good. I am interested in your smart switches, would you mind sharing details with us on that? I would like to be able to remotely control anything I can. I use remote desktop software at work, so I can work from home if needed, just like I'm sitting there. I would like to setup that same interface if possible for my rigs. Probably mostly so I can count pennies every day LOL. But I like the ability to be able to shut it down if needed, that's cool. Do GPUs alert you if a fan goes out, or do you need to physically look at them to make sure they are all spinning?
Here are high quality switches I purchased this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Loggers-EPCR3-Ethernet-Power-Controller/313181394732?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Loggers-EPCR3-Ethernet-Power-Controller/233854644649?if you use simple mining you can look at your gear from all over the world. and if you use the switch above with 1 pc and anydesk https://anydesk.com/enor teamveiwer. https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/you can sign into that pc and look at the switches and turn them on or off. That looks more expensive than the Simple rig resetter from SMOS, It can handle upto 300+ rigs with an extension board and pings your miner every 2-3 seconds to see if its still alive, if not, it powers it off and back on again. I bought 3 of these SRR devices in '16-'17 and have never looked back. https://simplemining.net/page/what-is-srrIt is more costly as it monitors power use on each rig. It is basically a remote pdu with meters for each of its 8 sockets It allows any rig or asic up to 12 x 240= 2880 watts per plug grand total of 24 x 240 = 5760 watts It does more than simple miner rig resetter does. |
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there would be Ninety eight bottles of beer on the wall
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Speaking of smoke detectors, they are good however they won't help you when you are not home. I think its rare to have someone's house burn down due to mining. I had many melted cables, PSUs blow up, GPUs go Kaboom and emit black smoke and make the place stink afterwards, however none actually started a fire.
What I would do in the future is just keep the rigs on metal frames and keep the frames on a metal rack away from anything flammable. So don't put it next to a wall or near boxes which are easily flammable.
They sell these type of blow up balls which basically you can put near your rig, if it detects any heat, they will blow up and send fire extinguisher powder everywhere and hopefully put out the fire. Never tried this however.
fire blankets can help. Amazon has them. I have a few here and there. |
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OK guys thanks. Looks like I'm stuck on Ravencoin/Kawpow on Betterhash. The Betterhash calculator still shows you can mine ETH and MTP - I assume I can't do MTP either with the 1050 TI?
Sounds like a similar revenue from both Betterhash and Nicehash, Kawpow is only thing I can do. Thanks again.
yeah i have one 1050ti does kawpow. |
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Man things are going well in Bitcoin land. But we're still over 10,000 pages behind the coin. Need to shitpost a lot more....
Bitcoin has left us behind for good, but still our posts count as instead of focusing on page parity bitcoin is now headed to WO post parity so if anything every single one of our post is 20x times more valuable than before so we need to keep posting. nintynine bottles of beer on the wall. |
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With gpus selling out like crazy, asics coming in, hashrate going up maybe 350 next week, 400 by next month. But correct me if im wrong, since the specs say (almost 2 years ago)
38.4gb/s per mixer
72 mixers per chip (1mb)
64 chips on board
So thats 4.6 of memory ? 4.6gb but that would be for 1.5 ? ghs. since we are seeing almost twice that, can we assume 8gb of mem and/or something else
Hard to find updated info but I havent searched that hard.
Long story short
2600mhs / 3000 w vs 27 x 3080s = 5500+watts
what am I missing here, I doubt the asics are 2x efficient as a 3080, or are they?
cant verify, have to trust very little info
it can do a dag up to 4.4gb which means it has a very short life. say Sept 1 2021 and it dies. The key is getting it in hand quickly. I believe if you get it fast it would be okay. But if you send in 10k and pay 2500 trump tax you are at 12500 plus shipping 12700. pay in coin or bank transfer. and they delay 1 month til feb 28. in that time the earnings drop to 50 a day or 60 a day vs 100 a day. I am pretty sure it pulls about 3200 watts. |
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Hi Guys,
I am deciding for the first time to mine with my GPUs (Long Term) pretty much 24/7, I have ordered 3x Liquid Cooled 3080s and they should arrive sometime soon, do you think there is anything wrong with mining with GPUs Long Term ? and how long will they last taking in consideration they will be Liquid Cooled in a premium desktop rig, ATM am mining with my LC 1080Ti and temps never go above 55c, let me know your thoughts..
while we are at it, will 1200x PSU be enough ?...
thanks,
I am mining 1080ti's for 3 years 24/7/365 days trick is fans at 70% and power at 60% I have evga 1080ti's hybrid I have msi/corsair seahawks 1080ti None failed I had 28 of them sold 16 still have 12 left. So power limit set to 60% only for your cards ? what do you mine ? can this trick be applied when mining anything (am using nicehash..) do you OC the mem or not needed ?... thanks, Lets say I point a card to nicehash. Nvidia I can set the power to 60% oc the memory a bit set fan to 70% and see what it does. |
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at 10k pricetag ... and with ETH POS in about 2 years. Assume that a unit of this miner 100 bucks per day at current ETH price, ROI in just over 3 months, assume diff level dont go crazy, and the occasional tx fees bonus. Looks like a positive buy, if you can get one. Yeah but you need it in under 1 week from your payment time. |
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Yeah the newbie is right 3060ti seem to be best at power for hash. 3080 are more dense My 3080 does 95 mh at 230 watts. this is 2.42 watts per mh my 3060ti does 60 mh at 125 watts this is 2.0833 watts per mh But price of the card matters and availability matters. I am only mining so for me I take any and all of the below amd 5500 amd 5600 amd 5700 nvidia 3060ti nividia 3080 they need to be at a decent price and available and I buy them. In a magical world. I would take all 3060ti's put them on an onda d1800 board. I would have 4 cards per board 1 zotac zt-a3061e=10m 3 evga 08g-p5-3667-kr. this mobo would do. about 240mh at about 600 watts and just run baby. I would have 50 mobos set this way total of 12000mh or about 890 usd of eth a day. Problem is I can't get enough cards for 1 or 2 mobos no less 50.  |
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If we stay on track and I have counted the days correctly, we have the following days to look forward to over the rest of January:
2 days and the CAD 17k days are gone (Mon 11th) - ✅
5 days and the USD 13k days are gone (Thurs 14th) - ✅
8 days and the EUR 11k days are gone (Sun 17th)
15 days and the GBP 10k days are gone (Sun 24th)
18 days and the USD 14k days are gone (Weds 27th) ------ my birthday!
Second marker passed ...  1 day and all top 30 will be 2020 or 2021. (Fri 12th) 11 days and all top 40 will be 2020 or 2021. (Sat 23rd) 21 days and all top 50 will be 2020 or 2021. (Feb 03rd) I would love to see the above occur in exactly 21 days got the ✅✅✅'s ready |
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Miner29, thank you. Those are great points. I had thoughts that spare fans would be good. I am interested in your smart switches, would you mind sharing details with us on that? I would like to be able to remotely control anything I can. I use remote desktop software at work, so I can work from home if needed, just like I'm sitting there. I would like to setup that same interface if possible for my rigs. Probably mostly so I can count pennies every day LOL. But I like the ability to be able to shut it down if needed, that's cool. Do GPUs alert you if a fan goes out, or do you need to physically look at them to make sure they are all spinning?
Here are high quality switches I purchased this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Loggers-EPCR3-Ethernet-Power-Controller/313181394732?https://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Loggers-EPCR3-Ethernet-Power-Controller/233854644649?if you use simple mining you can look at your gear from all over the world. and if you use the switch above with 1 pc and anydesk https://anydesk.com/enor teamveiwer. https://www.teamviewer.com/en-us/you can sign into that pc and look at the switches and turn them on or off. |
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I'm going to try this out Phil. I will then do a blind taste test and compare it with this garbage that came out during my college years!  remember mine will look dark due to vanilla bean color |
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