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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
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Some Nxt folks lobbied

Tinfoil hat much?
Quit the victim routine.


Let me guess,  you and your kind are responsible for lobbying for the thread to be locked.

You folks really don't know how to play fair.

Just read the earlier thread about 'copyrighting' the source code.   Sheesh!  


You have a rather dim view of mods on this forum if you believe they would respond to such an appeal, even if it was made.

However, I already know your tactics and nothing I say will matter to you. You are set to play the victim and will keep trying to pin it on "us".

So go ahead: believe what you will. You are biased beyond belief, and the sad thing is that you cannot see it.

You are to be pitied, because you are your own worst enemy.
1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
Did I miss something here?  
Why you stopped fair distribution of NEX?

Some Nxt folks lobbied to lock that fair distribution thread.

They didn't want a clone that was fairly distributed.

But you can still reserve some NEX, that thread is still open.

I think we adequately proved that your definition of "fair" changed every day and to suit your mood.

Also
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Some Nxt folks lobbied

Tinfoil hat much?
Quit the victim routine.
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 06:11:04 PM

much easier than bitcoin mining, right?  and imagine how dirty filthy stinking RICH these people are going to be when transparent mining REALLY kicks in to allow 1000s of transactions per second, and NXT spreads wide...

just imagine.

or heres a thought:  instead of just imagining, you can risk your $ like everyone else here has and get your own hoard.

Why would I do that when I can make my own coin?

Isn't that the same thing you're doing?

Suggestive questioning. The question implies the answer. Are you holding a list with all tricks of the spin doctor trade and just trying them all out?  Smiley
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 06:05:48 PM
FrictionlessCoin already holds Nxt.
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 06:02:07 PM
...Whoever gets the most coins makes most coins, how is that different from ASICs on Bitcoin? Someone care to explain?

jeez man, what youve just posted is EXACTLY what we've been shouting for months.  The difference is that your ASICs depreciate, consume lots of power, and require maintenance

That's right.   With Bitcoin early miners have their ASIC equipment depreciate.  Furthermore,  to keep up with the mining they have to consume power, do maintenance and acquire new rigs.

With 100% proof of stake,  the big holders just sits there forging coin without any real costs.

He does not do any mainetance,  he is not required to add new investments,  he just sits on his hoard and acquires new coins.

Did I miss something here?  

See selective quoting in action Smiley
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 05:56:27 PM
An account with 2 million NXT generated 28 NXT... the 50 million NXT guy generated almost 100k NXT lol

The concept is pretty flawed. Whoever gets the most coins makes most coins, how is that different from ASICs on Bitcoin? Someone care to explain?

It ain't, early adopters get richer.   That is what proof of stake is.   The more stake I have, the richer I become.  

OMG!  an account with zero NXT forged 81K NXT!!!  oh teh noes!

com one.  you can make all kinds of accusations, doesnt mean you have all the facts

Just saying how it really is.   The rich get richer.    What facts did I miss?

You know, stating something as fact does not mean the burden of proof then lies with the other party.

Let me try your tactic back at you.

FrictionlessCoin is an idiot using spin doctor tactics in the best tradition of the worst presidential campaigns.

Just saying how it really is.

What fact did I miss?
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 05:54:18 PM
An account with 2 million NXT generated 28 NXT... the 50 million NXT guy generated almost 100k NXT lol

The concept is pretty flawed. Whoever gets the most coins makes most coins, how is that different from ASICs on Bitcoin? Someone care to explain?

It ain't, early adopters get richer.   That is what proof of stake is.   The more stake I have, the richer I become.   

OMG!  an account with zero NXT forged 81K NXT!!!  oh teh noes!

com one.  you can make all kinds of accusations, doesnt mean you have all the facts

He's just up to his normal transparent routine of quoting half truths.
When someone (doesn't matter who) says something that may be suspicious, even if someone says something to explain it, he jumps on it and repeats it.
He also will ignore the relevant facts that would explain how things really are.

It's a well-known tactic used by spin doctors all over the world to try and discredit someone or something.

It's also tiring and old hat.
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 05:45:30 PM
An account with 2 million NXT generated 28 NXT... the 50 million NXT guy generated almost 100k NXT lol

The concept is pretty flawed. Whoever gets the most coins makes most coins, how is that different from ASICs on Bitcoin? Someone care to explain?

It ain't, early adopters get richer.   That is what proof of stake is.   The more stake I have, the richer I become.   

Show me any project that is a success where this isn't the case.

Too much time on your hands on Friday evening, Intern?
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 05:05:49 PM

Would you really want him to? Smiley
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 04:42:03 PM
Go, get it.

It's Friday and I'm lazy, so no.  Smiley
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt marketing & promotion :: Nxt now on Cryptmarket! [articles bounties] on: January 31, 2014, 04:00:07 PM
I've just gotten a friendly webdeveloper interested in creating Nxt payment modules for Wordpress, prestashop and magento (possibly other open source e-commerce systems, too).

He's currently swamped with work, but is going to read up this week and I expect a reaction during next week.



Didnt you contact wesleyh? I thought he had all that.

Pin

Didn't contact him yet, but will do that too today.

The thing is that this guy can deliver complete modules. i don't know if wesley already has those, or just the "how-to" instructions.

I will ask however. In any case, my guy at least can implement it. I would hardly take wes's time from him for that. He is no doubt working on his cross-platform client Smiley
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt marketing & promotion :: Nxt now on Cryptmarket! [articles bounties] on: January 31, 2014, 03:47:21 PM
I've just gotten a friendly webdeveloper interested in creating Nxt payment modules for Wordpress, prestashop and magento (possibly other open source e-commerce systems, too).

He's currently swamped with work, but is going to read up this week and I expect a reaction during next week.



1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 02:44:46 PM
another question lol

if i close my client.. i have to wait 1440 blocks before i can forge again right? it was finally forging and had to close it to upgrade to 0.5.11... :/

No, if your Nxt has been confirmed 1440 times, that's good.
Once you open the new client, you will start forging immediately again Smiley

oh ok so my deposit of nxt needs 1440 conformations...before i can forge.. ok got it..

and you know the way on nxt blockexplorer it tells you your ratio of forging.. mine being like 0.0011% [8.blabla] or sumthin.. how ofter do i get that? is it just pure flook?

To be honest, I totally disregards both that, and the message about it in the client (after 1440 confirms your client starts giving you forging ETAs).

I go by "it will take a lot of time".  Wink
Saves me a lot of stress.
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt marketing & promotion :: Nxt now on Cryptmarket! [articles bounties] on: January 31, 2014, 02:39:07 PM


This would be nice, buy silver and gold with NXT!

http://www.bitgoud.nl/goud-kopen-bitcoin

pin

I love the fact that that site features a Wishlist.  Smiley

"Gold"
"More gold"
"LOADS of Gold"
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 31, 2014, 02:36:40 PM
another question lol

if i close my client.. i have to wait 1440 blocks before i can forge again right? it was finally forging and had to close it to upgrade to 0.5.11... :/

No, if your Nxt has been confirmed 1440 times, that's good.
Once you open the new client, you will start forging immediately again Smiley
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Nxt marketing & promotion :: Nxt now on Cryptmarket! [articles bounties] on: January 31, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
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wesleyh has code for accepting payments on websites and also can get NXT integrated with shopping cart modules. Once you have a site ready for that stage I am sure he will help.

That's great. Didn't know that. I'll contact him.

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how can I help?

Pin

At this moment, I need a sounding board to bounce some ideas around and put me straight when I propose silly, or stupid things.
If you have some spare time over the weekend, it would be much appreciated.

Working with crypto's as payment is a bit different from fiat.
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 30, 2014, 11:42:05 PM
Very quick question, çoz I just got home to find both my home NRS node and me VPS being completely mad:

Is/has something wierd been happening on the client/blockchain front, and do I need to upgrade to 5.11 ?




Some people have reported splits since the new client was released.
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 30, 2014, 10:52:57 PM

Knowing identity of carlos allows credible legal threat to stop his nonsense. He doesn't care about actually running a coin, so your protection doesn't work. People will still get scammed and then might blame NXT.


If you want to legally prohibit people  from redistributing and using your code in other projects, copyright law already does that.  Open source doesn't mean anyone can use it if you have a copyright notice on the code.

This no difference between software and images copyright.

Simply add on top of every source file:

/*
 * Developer : Developer Name (example@example.com)
 * Date : xx/yy/zzzz
 * All code (c)2014 name -- all rights reserved
* You may not use, copy, or distribute the code without written permission from the  developer
*
 */

Yeah it's as simple as that.

That makes it illegal to use the code without developer's permission.



This actually is the most restrictive form of license you can release your code under. According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer. The mainstream open source licenses are what you want to be considering; as they have well thought-out mechanisms to permit your code to be useful yet restrictive enough to prohibit exploitative uses.

"According to this, every time your code is called or executed you need written permission from the developer."

Not everytime. Jus once. If the developer has offered the permission to use it with Nxt project, that one time written permission is enough.




Not quite, who does he give the written permission to? Nxt, as has been pointed out, is not a separate entity, but an informal group of individuals? How all future users of Nxt who are unknown at this time.

I'm not advocating that this be made unnecessarily complicated, but there's a reason that software licenses are not one liners. If we want to call the software open source, it really should be licensed under one of the accepted open source licenses, otherwise you have unclear copyright when people use or build on the platform.

People are watching the crypto currency movement very with an eye towards developing commercial applications, even if the community has other motives. Releasing under a well known license would go a long way to comforting commercial developers, the attention of whom would work wonders for Nxt.

The source code now is released under the MIT licence.

https://bitbucket.org/JeanLucPicard/nxt-public/src/4073c21098076d3469b3f74d49e73ffabe3a2001/MIT-license.txt?at=master
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 30, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
Since yesterday it is not working properly for me (0.5.10). Just upgraded to 0.5.11 but still same issue... Generated an incorrect block every now and then.


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I've just taken a look at cryptokopen.eu and the proce for one nxt is over 0.2$. Are we crazy??

If you buy there, you are  Grin
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: NXT :: descendant of Bitcoin - Updated Information on: January 30, 2014, 10:12:26 PM
SWARMERS NEEDED

Due to the lackluster community effort for SWARMing projects I have setup this in an attempt to form a always active SWARMing group.
Given the upcoming articles and posts that will be about NXT over the next weeks this is very much needed:

I am looking for 30 SWARMers that will do as instructed in terms of commenting and upvoting/liking articles, posts, videos etc.
The goal is to have at least 30 people to comment on certain articles and posts that need it.

There'll be a 1000 NXT bounty for every 20th SWARM you participate in.

All you need to do is send me an email at nxtorganizer@gmail.com so I get your email in my contacts which will make it a lot easier to send out calls for SWARMing.

The way it'll work is very simple, I will simply send out a chainmail to the SWARMers with instructions on what we need a comment/upvote on, then after you have done so, just let me know by sending a quick reply back where you provide the username you used so I can keep track.
When you have participated in 10 such swarms you will get 500NXT and then another 500NXT after the next 10 swarms.

Doge is quite good at swarming and their tech is well... ok, I'll be polite.  Imagine what we could do with 30 active people pushing initiatives with the Nxt eco-system as our base? This is important, Uniqueorn is 100% correct.

I would gladly contribute to this bounty if you want to increase the amounts to incentivize more or use it to extend the length/get more swarmers.

Great!
I think that we should definitely extend the time period, yes, because when NXT first gains momentum we don't want it to stop Smiley Send me a PM

Let's get started Smiley
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