and I went back to nicehash on 2 of 3 accounts
As I never found a monero pool with both a REASONABLE payout level when mining to an exchange, AND good reliability, all my CPU miners are pointed at Nicehash - and working again. I left ONE of my A2 scrypt miners (the 88 Mhash model) with Nicehash as the default pool. I have one older machine with 960/950 cards that runs their software by default We'll see how it works out. |
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my MSI 390 and MSI 290X is about 2 months since i first lube it, my HIS 480 is about 3 months already..sapphire 280x is at least 6 months....
Sapphire is ALL ball bearing fans - have been as far back as I've been using them. I'm pretty sure MSI is all ball bearing fans as well. HIS - varies with the model. Ice-Q and "reference blower" models seem to all be ball bearing, "lesser" models usually are not. |
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You have to watch it for when it is mining for dev fee.
--fee is effective - but it's not as cut-and-dried as it could be, due to how EVERY miner I've seen that imposes a fee for use does so.
--fee set to 0.2% might not actually GIVE that low, but it's noticeably lower than the default 2% does from when I was monitoring it to check.
It's unfortunate zawata never got his FREE zec miner up to speed to be competative....
It would also be interesting if wolf0 decided to build a ZEC miner - might still be fee but performance would probably beat anything current.
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why use this miner anyways, its officially the slowest for cuda and equihash. dtsm's cuda miner and Bfast's cuda miner are faster. not to mention ewbf has bailed months ago
Hello! Where i can find Bfast's cuda miner? In my testing of dstm, it is either the same speed or so little faster vs EBWF as to make it LESS effective given the FIXED 2% fee (ebwf can have the fee modified to suit).
I also strongly dislike the interface on dstm, way too much "busy worthless garbage" on it, but if it was enough faster to matter I'd tolerate it - I'm not REAL fond of the ewbf interface either.
BFast doesn't exist for LINUX.
I haven't heard of Bfast cuda miner. Perhaps CryptoWatcher420 meant Bminer: a fast Equihash miner for CUDA GPUs which does have a Linux release and also has a fixed 2% dev fee. Personally bminer hasn't worked for me, a lot of rejected shares, so i'm sticking with dstm's ZCash / Equihash Nvidia Miner v0.5.7 (Linux / Windows) Bminer released the LINUX version quite recently - probably about the same time as I posted that it doesn't exist, or a day later. I've only done very limited testing of it to date, and have been UNDERWHELMED by it's performance - see my recent "testing" post in that thread. Not saying it's BAD - but when it's 20 hash SLOWER that EBWF on my Aorus 1080 ti at 90% TDP (I don't bother with 100% TDP as the tiny hashrate increase isn't worth the extra power draw) and wasn't significantly IF ANY faster at any other power setting I tried, it makes me take the "faster" claims with a couple POUNDS of salt. Could be that miner is better optimised for smaller cards though, so I WILL test it on lower-end stuff sometime. |
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why use this miner anyways, its officially the slowest for cuda and equihash. dtsm's cuda miner and Bfast's cuda miner are faster. not to mention ewbf has bailed months ago
You keep spouting that "slowest" claim - when in actual fact it is NOT the slowest in many cases and in others the difference is LESS than the 2% fee charged by dstm or BFast. |
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Not I - 382.53 because everything I've tried from NVidia to date that is newer has been crashy/buggy/unstable as heck - except the LINUX 384.98 they released to support the 1070 ti.
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My only issues with the EVGA FTW models are:
1) 2 power connectors makes it harder to get enough power to them in a many-card setup
2) higher cost than the SC model.
Otherwise they should work the same as the SC - I don't think the cooling is enough better IF at all for them to boost noticeably higher at "efficient" settings, though they might crank out a few more hash than the SC if you push them to 160+ watts.
Armor cards don't suck, in my limited experience with them - but the cooling is NOT all that good given the HUGE fans and overall SIZE of the bloody things.
They don't seem to cool quite as well as the EVGA SC models, though close, and they DO cool better than the Zotac mini models.
Two power connectors? Same as my Vega 56's? They require two 8-pin's, if I'm not mistaken. Between two EVGA 1000W Gold's, I had everything I needed in the box to power my six gpu Vega 56 rig. Vegas use a lot more power at their most efficient point though, even if you mod them and such to reduce power draw. The lowest CLAIM I've seen was 130 watts on Monero mining, and most reports are closer to 180 or so. I can run *5* EVGA SC 1070 ti (or the Zotac Mini but I'm not buying any more due to fan concerns) from a SINGLE 850 watt PS comfortably - and there are enough connectors to go around if I use the Seasonic X-850 (EVGA G2 850 is constrained by having to use a "dual" cable to having 2 cards a bit closer together than I prefer, AND EVGA doesn't have dual cables with 2 x 8-pin connections so I'd have to use some sort of adapter for the 5'th card or get some sort of custom cable made). If you want INSANE, the new Sapphire Nitro Vega 56 model needs *3* 8 pin connectors per card. I could BARELY see that for a Vega 64 since they soak a lot more power, but on a Vega 56?  ?? Probably a nice card, but VERY VERY hard to try to set THAT up for use in a mining rig. Hmmm, I wonder if that factor was deliberate..........and if Sapphire is planning a "mining specific" Vega 56 model with 8 + 6 power for later release. Zotac AMP I'd worry about, as it doesn't mention having ball bearing fans (only the AMP EXTREME in the Zotac line specifies ball bearing fans). Same reason I am no longer buying their Mini model cards. |
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Actually, I was planning on *2* of my 92 mm - not 3.
I think I DID say "one per heatsink".
120mm wouldn't FIT right, way too high.
I've done the "relube" thing too many times to count - and it never works for long as the seals are ALREADY shot by the time you do that.
Short-term "buy time for a better option" at BEST, usually lucky to get a month of working fan out of relubing and if the bearing/shaft is too WORN you won't get a week if it works at all.
that is a 2x 120mm on a 390 sapphire tri x, you just have to raise it a little bit higher... i don't know about seals being "ALREADY shot" fans just snap out and snap back in, fixed the wiggling from an HIS rx 480 recently, a msi r9 390 - a fan sometimes not turning, when you spin it with your finger it doesn't spin smoothly..you can feel the lack of lubrication..a msi r9 290x twin frozr and a sapphire 280x dual x too..for me so far so good.. here is a 3x 92mm on a fury strix at 48c..I think you will need three BTW....for me I prefer 2x 120mm note: the riser on this fury strix and on that 390 is 4 years old  ..maybe one per heat sink...depends on the size of the cards The whole reason that sleeve bearing fans fail is that the seals that seal the lube INTO the fan bearing fail and let the lube leak out. "snap out and snap back in" does not fix that issue, and tends to cause MORE damage to the seals. Any lube you add to a fan that has already had the seals start leaking isn't going to be around for long - at which point the fan fails AGAIN, usually in less than a month and rarely in 1-2 months. The pic you showed of the 120mm was making my point - a 120 sticks up too far, and on my current setup won't FIT. 92mm on the other hand is about the same height as the HS and will fit - and I already HAVE the 92 mm fans. I doubt I'd need 3 fans for anything - the 92mm NMB fans I have flow a LOT more air than the gimp fans card makers put on GPUs. They're not high-end Delta 38mm thick screamers, but they ARE good for a lot more airflow than the original Gigabyte fans are rated at - and the extra thickness isn't enough to be an issue. Even with only 2 of the 3 original fans working at ALL on the Gigabyte Windforce 3-fan cards, they stay fairly cool. |
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Problem with Nicehash "being back online" is that their mining servers seem to NOT be back online yet, or they changed the addresses and haven't posted the new ones anywhere that folks can find them yet.
So you're NOT actually free to lease etc 'cause there's no hashpower TO lease.
(edit) looks like they finally got the servers up around midnight - PACIFIC time, not "CET".
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My only issues with the EVGA FTW models are:
1) 2 power connectors makes it harder to get enough power to them in a many-card setup
2) higher cost than the SC model.
Otherwise they should work the same as the SC - I don't think the cooling is enough better IF at all for them to boost noticeably higher at "efficient" settings, though they might crank out a few more hash than the SC if you push them to 160+ watts.
Armor cards don't suck, in my limited experience with them - but the cooling is NOT all that good given the HUGE fans and overall SIZE of the bloody things.
They don't seem to cool quite as well as the EVGA SC models, though close, and they DO cool better than the Zotac mini models.
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Actually, I was planning on *2* of my 92 mm - not 3. I think I DID say "one per heatsink". 120mm wouldn't FIT right, way too high. I've done the "relube" thing too many times to count - and it never works for long as the seals are ALREADY shot by the time you do that. Short-term "buy time for a better option" at BEST, usually lucky to get a month of working fan out of relubing and if the bearing/shaft is too WORN you won't get a week if it works at all. And now the reason I logged in this time - rig porn. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1JXjZsYfB_Gg0oElpUO-ScHxGLdZ9JS-8/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PuP8GWyUcbS70LofSyHz2rJyJDnKIkY3/view?usp=sharing EVGA SC 1070 ti x 2, Gigabyte Windforce (3-fan) 1080, Zotac 1080 Mini, Gigabyte 1070 ITX (for as long as THAT one lasts). Riser spacing is wider than design, as the ITX doesn't need clearance vs the 2x4 - normally the 2'nd through 5'th risers would be a little closer together. In the "back" pic you can also see part of my "airbox" setup for getting filtered air into the room - definitely a low-tech solution but it works. Those Vegas must have JUST gotten posted for sale - that stuff wasn't THERE 2 hours ago when I was on Newegg looking for Vega 56 and at available 1070 ti options. (edit) Links should be working now - I forgot to change the "sharing" option. |
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Did some initial testing on my 1080 ti Aorus in the gaming rig - and not real impressed.
+100 core +100 memory same as I use on EBWF
60% (150 watt) and 70% (175 watt) TDP settings - EVENTUALLY settled in at same-to-1% higher than EBWF, but took 2+ minutes to get there.
80% (200 watt) setting - eventually settled in at a hair LESS than EBWF after 5ish minutes of waiting for it to get there.
90% (225 watt) setting - never got above 740 where EBWF gives 760 and took 2 mins to get to the 740 figure which didn't improve in the 5ish mins after that I waited on it.
CPU usage showed some serious spikes on a Ryzen 1700 - not enough to be a problem on THAT CPU but I can see it causing issues on low-end dual-cores running multiple cards.
Even where the hashrate was higher, it wasn't ENOUGH higher to make up for EBWF fee configurability.
I'll do some testing later on lower cards, especially the 1070 ti that is my current "go-to" option for ZEC mining.
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Can't believe how many ungrateful persons are there. Man made a free miner (with a fee, but it's free) and you are complaining like he owns you something.
No miner is perfect when it comes out, those things always need testing and polishing. I don't doubt that CPU usage will be fixed in some of the next versions.
Good job dev.
fee to use = NOT FREE. Unlike EBWF where the fee is by default but can be configured to be lower or zero. |
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1070's max power isn't 250W, not sure where you got that from. It's 150W. Thus 65% would make it run at 98W. Yours runs at 161. You'd never be able to run it at above 180W, let alone 250. 250W is 1080Ti's max power. Like it says on the top of the specifications in your link, the 150 W power limit is for the reference cards. The Zotac AMP! Extreme 1070 is a dual 8-pin card with a max power of 250 W. https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-geforce-gtx-1070-amp-extreme#spec Quite a few 1070 models have a default 180 watt TDP. MSI makes at least 1 and I think 2 with a 240 watt TDP in their "Gaming" series. This is WHY I keep trying to tell folks "specify watts, NOT PERCENT" on TDP numbers as % means NOTHING unless you specify the specific card model and even THEN it's confusing. |
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WTF is a hodler
Do you mean Holder?
Stupid bitcoin thing. Some noob said HODL instead of HOLD and everyone uses it like repetitive bots. Actually, the phrase originated from the "HODL" coin community and they've been trying to infect the rest of us since then. |
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EVGA G2/P2/T2 series power supplies do NOT use the same pinout on the CPU connector as on the VGA connector.
You MUST use an adapter or a custom cable.
This is one reason I prefer the Seasonic X-series - they DO use the same pinout and that allows more flexability on connections - though the EVGA G2 is my "#2 go to" option.
The Peripheral slots are NOT rated for the power draw of an 8-pin PCI-E connection, or even close. They're adaquate to power *ONE* riser safely, or a 6-pin PCI-E power connection.
75 watts MAX per at least one post from an EVGA employee in their forums.
Don't worry about rails - EVGA G2/P2/T2 series supplies are a single +12v rail design, like most modern high-power supplies they generate the +12VDC then convert the other voltages from THAT single big rail.
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This is far below what they forecasted last month (14 TH/s @ 1300W). I was hoping we might get a little more, not 20+% less. I love Canaan, but this is making me re-think my purchase plan for next year.
I like it a lot better from the "not insane can only use server or VERY HIGH PRICE atx" power supply standpoint. Perhaps the posted spec is a BASE spec and you can overclock to get to the 14/1300 level? (edit) just noticed the 841 part of that one post - 13 at 1200 is pretty close to 14/1300, but I bet they have to use more chips running at lower voltage (and probably end up at a HIGHER COST) to get there vs the 821. |
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I feel you on all that but at current crytop prices all i care about is how fast a card can pay foritself , and then youre only paying for the power.
Then you should be pushing Vega on Monero mining. Assuming you can ever FIND the things that is, and that you can find them at less than 50% over MSRP when you DO find one at all. 8-P |
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Does this work on fine on windows 7? It says "Requires Windows 8/8.1/10 64 bit" but I've never seen software that works on 8 but not 7.
The Blockchain Drivers FLAT OUT DO NOT WORK on Windows 7 - despite AMD claiming they do. I can't speak to 8 as I refuse to subject myself to that UNUSABLE INTERFACE ever again. It SHOULD work on 7 with normal drivers, you just might not get the 2000 ballpark hashrate you can get under 10 with the blockchain drivers. |
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