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1161  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 06:17:24 PM
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1162  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 18, 2017, 05:53:34 PM

Ive found this very well opinionated article; https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2017/10/17/watch-google-blockchain-will-set-us-free-data-tyranny/
''Watch out Google! Blockchain will set us free from data tyranny''


I have studied the past yearly rapport of Alphabet inc (google), Their buseniss model is based mostly on advertisement. About 90% income is through that and they are expecting massive growth in this field.
The expectation of growth is not because they think they will get more users. But the way they are paid are Pay Per view (PPV) and Pay per click (PPC). When data analyse algorithms get better, they can market
their visitors better so they will click more on adds.

If Datum can prevent this it would be HUGE! Even if they can take some power away from google in this situation its already a win.

Maybe google try to buyout datum in some time later, and if something like that happens I can't imagine what will happen to the price of tokens Cheesy
Haha, Google does not need to buy data from anyone, because it has all information, even the favorite of anyone used Google in the past. Google does not only track through data normal, it still can track through Google Chrome, Google Seach and any product from Google, ... You can reseach more detail about this issue on Google Seach Wink

Google certainly has a lot of information, but not all. And this information is more generalized. In Datum people can sell more personal information, and more detailed, because they will be paid for it. This is the difference. In the quality and accuracy of the data. Well, maybe I'm not right, but my opinion is.

Yes, I also think, that the data from Datum platform is of higher quality, more valid and structured which makes it attractive for companies to buy.

They know what you look for online, but they don't know what you personally like, buy for yourself, borrow from others etc
1163  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 18, 2017, 02:55:27 PM

Ive found this very well opinionated article; https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2017/10/17/watch-google-blockchain-will-set-us-free-data-tyranny/
''Watch out Google! Blockchain will set us free from data tyranny''


I have studied the past yearly rapport of Alphabet inc (google), Their buseniss model is based mostly on advertisement. About 90% income is through that and they are expecting massive growth in this field.
The expectation of growth is not because they think they will get more users. But the way they are paid are Pay Per view (PPV) and Pay per click (PPC). When data analyse algorithms get better, they can market
their visitors better so they will click more on adds.

If Datum can prevent this it would be HUGE! Even if they can take some power away from google in this situation its already a win.

Maybe google try to buyout datum in some time later, and if something like that happens I can't imagine what will happen to the price of tokens Cheesy

Maybe google will start buying data from datum lol 

But googles greatest power is to collect data through your search history etc, or am I wrong? As long as most people use google as the main search engine google will lose no power at all.

If google gets threatened it will buy out datum, it won't start buying its product. If that happens prices might shoot up big time

I agree with this statement. Google buys out all possible competition before it reaches a competitive stage. Kind of like Facebook buying Instagram and whatsapp when they become big

Before we speculate of google will try to buy Datum sooner or later, let's first see how Datum will go on with the project in future.

HA! if google ever announces their intentions to buy Datum, the investors will be millionaires Smiley)

If they manage to HODL that long, yes. remember, theres thousands upon thousands of people who bought bitcoin at 0.02 - 20$ a piece, but if they all sold before prices could reach the current level of 5.5K they didn't become millionaires either. A lot of people want the quick profits; if they buy 500 coins at 5$ a piece, and suddenly that coin is at 50$, they usually won't wait until prices may or may not climb higher to 100$ or 200$.
1164  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 18, 2017, 02:50:59 PM
Although you should not be worried about the price, look at WAVES for example.  It was belong ICO price, and now its kinda stable right now.  Keep it up, I will buy some SONM.

Many investors are well understands the risks involved in this project and ICOs as a whole. In the nearest future we are unlikely to see any big movements on the sonm market. But one day, i think, the price will skyrocket.
right now the price is going down and this is the big opportunity to buy sonm tokens at very cheap price
sonm project is developing very fast and in right way i think in future sonm will be a great token
and its price will be skyrocket for sure
i am buying more and hold them

at this moment altcoins is bloody, because of bitcoin increasing its value,,
people will collect BTC for BTG, but i still believe on few alt is in the best buy zone



you are right ,that's true , not only altcoin bloody ,i am bloody too , i hold sonm for a long time ,there is no btc for me ,But i think,  one day the price of sonm will skyrocket.
it turns out we are one fate bro, it's like to cry saw the price of the sonm fell

buying Sonm under 0.1$ is a great, great deal. As if this coin couldn't be a 500 mil cap, which would bring prices to 1 - 1.5$. In 2 years, when the network is up and running, we might even see 2 or 3$, bringing the cap up to 1 billion. In 4 years, could it be possible they'll formed a company with HP to create supercomputing laptops? They sat down together, along with microsoft and intel, during the barca convention, so they must've talked about collab possibilities? If that would really happen, Sonm could be a 10 billion cap, bringing prices close to 30$ a coin. you might think that would create a lot of millionaires. It won't. People will be selling all the way up, making the bigger guys richer who are picking up hundreds of thousands at 1 or 2$ a coin
1165  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Artemine- First Self Mining Smart Contract 2.0 on: October 18, 2017, 02:16:19 PM
I invested in this project with 3000 artemine, can you explain please what is a Genesis Addresses

how are u seriously asking this question, AFTER you invested! 

It is hilarious Cheesy

3000 arte = 30 mne so not a big amount of Money. Maybe he didn't care.

I would like to be present when this guy finds out that his Arte will only be completely mined after 60 years.
Me too Grin
It's written on every page in this Topic, everyone is responsible for their own.

Count me in, I'll bring snacks
1166  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 18, 2017, 02:14:45 PM
I am also interested in testing this. I am interested how much my daily shared data is worth.

So does it mean only the ones who contributed to the pre-sale are able to use the alpha version with this Dashboard?

I really hope they will open the dashboard for testing for all users and not only for a limited users.
Cant wait to test the dashboard. Datum is getting very active lately with some new announcements, I'm sure there will be a big one coming!
What do you think is the best source for following the latest information and news regarding DATUM? Do they also havea Telegram channel for announcements or onlya group where everybody can write in?

twitter, facebook
1167  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Altcoins Plunging on: October 18, 2017, 02:13:45 PM
All indicators show oversold zones and this levels are best to buy big amounts. Do your homework and find undervalued alts before hard fork.


I agree, let's do our homework because there are a lot of undervalued coins around this time which is before the fork. It's good to buy altcoins around this time too.
Bitcoin has made a great place in people's minds and hearts and now one else can take its place altcoin is also increasing its popularity very quickly but Bitcoin has already made its root in digital world and altcoin is still like a newbie.

I think in coming future there will be only trades of bitcoin and other currency trade will stop and altcoin will also be included in it as bitcoin is used by many people and has a stable value or place in digital world but it not the case with altcoin as people are just buying and selling it or converting it to bitcoin and than using it so its popularity is overthrown by bitcoin and no many people know about it as many people know bitcoin and trust it.

on the contrary, bitcoin has the first movers advantage but thats basically it. Coins like NEM are cheaper, faster and lighter, so it's actually more reasonable to assume the alts will get used the most in day to day life, where bitcoin will become a hedge. bitcoin also can't magically start doing what these other coins are doing, because its just not built that way. the platforms built around the coins, like SONM for example, can't suddenly start using bitcoin instead.
1168  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract on: October 18, 2017, 12:43:44 PM
are minereum coins are oficialy burned? cause on coinmarketcap i see 1.2 mill tokens, maybe there just not updated information?
if tokens are burned, please someone give me a link to check this, thanks

they posted an announcement a few pages back i think, or on the artemine thread
1169  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 12:18:27 PM
Does anyone know what the circulating supply will be?

https://etherscan.io/token/0x7d4b8cce0591c9044a22ee543533b72e976e36c3

It's around 79 million, which is even around 20 million less than OmiseGo has floating around. Keep in mind that Change isn't necessarily a would-be competitor of OMG, but they could be compared, I think.

Short-term, I think $10 is achievable, but I plan to hold for a while to see development from the team. Big things coming Smiley

compared to the other cryptobanks, i'd say somewhere between 0.5$ and 25$, so 10$ seems definitely possible for 2018.
1170  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 18, 2017, 11:44:51 AM

Ive found this very well opinionated article; https://thenextweb.com/contributors/2017/10/17/watch-google-blockchain-will-set-us-free-data-tyranny/
''Watch out Google! Blockchain will set us free from data tyranny''


I have studied the past yearly rapport of Alphabet inc (google), Their buseniss model is based mostly on advertisement. About 90% income is through that and they are expecting massive growth in this field.
The expectation of growth is not because they think they will get more users. But the way they are paid are Pay Per view (PPV) and Pay per click (PPC). When data analyse algorithms get better, they can market
their visitors better so they will click more on adds.

If Datum can prevent this it would be HUGE! Even if they can take some power away from google in this situation its already a win.

Maybe google try to buyout datum in some time later, and if something like that happens I can't imagine what will happen to the price of tokens Cheesy

Maybe google will start buying data from datum lol 

But googles greatest power is to collect data through your search history etc, or am I wrong? As long as most people use google as the main search engine google will lose no power at all.

If google gets threatened it will buy out datum, it won't start buying its product. If that happens prices might shoot up big time
1171  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 18, 2017, 11:38:44 AM
I think people looking for price to regain the lost ground will need to wait a bit, it is all the market that is bleeding including modt recent ICOs

maybe, but SONM is a no future project too 

no future? lol
Of course SONM has no future. Nobody needs access to cheap computing power. Especially not all the researchers in academia that have to wait months to get very brief access to super computers.

plus it'd be terrible to have practically free world wide wifi, a laptop capable of making money when you don't use it, global energy sharing, data processing at the speed of light, dividends for shareholders, ... I'll just stick to my good ol' Windows 95 thank you very much
1172  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Minereum - First Self Mining Smart Contract on: October 18, 2017, 10:03:44 AM
Wow over 50% of the supply already got burned and price still at the bottom Shocked

if people think it's a scam coin with no purpose, they can burn all but 1 coin but that coin won't be worth more than it is now
1173  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 18, 2017, 08:53:05 AM
This is the right moment to buy sonm even because of the bitcoin fork, it's a great project and this is a great opportunity to get on board. From my analysis this coin can reach a high price in respect of the actual one. The price at the moment is so low because the platform is still under development, until it will be released the price will stay low. Just give it time and the price will raise.

I'm not even thinking about cashing out before december 2018, once they bring out a new working version we'll see 1$ in the rear view mirror
1174  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🌟🌟 Datum - Unlock the Bln $$ Data Economy - ICO 29th October - 🌟🌟 on: October 18, 2017, 08:31:29 AM
really like this project...you want my data you pay for it

Well, that's already the case. Just that companies don't pay you but another company, or just steal your datas without asking. Datum will not stop this.

they don't exactly steal it. there an expression: if you're not paying for the product you are the product. for facebook you are the product, same for google. you data is useful for them to sell.
It's nothing wrong if they sell the data because if you register on facebook you have to accept the terms and conditions but it's great that Datum offers an opportunity to sell it on your own.
when you join facebook and other social media you already sell(for free) your private data so they can bombing repeatedly with targeted advertisements,datum offer user the opportunity to sell it on your own,and perhaps earn something...

But how will that change? Facebook will still be using your data when you log in to their website. How will Datum prevent that?

they won't, but they might develop some sort of reverse ad blocker?

Reading "reverse ad blocker" made me burst my coffee and made me say what the f*ck?! Cheesy. I don't even know where to start with that... What do you mean?

where your data gets hashed or something like ad companies don't know who produces which data, like coca cola knows 100.000 people on facebook like their page, but they don't know who liked it

Ok, let's take a Coca-cola example. Facebook and Coca-cola will know every participant that "likes" the coca-cola, if they don't, that data is not part of Facebook in any way. After that, liking that page is not relevant. And if it is not relevant, you could just fill out the form of what you like and do not and try to sell that.

how does the deep web scramble your info? You can find out drugs are getting bought, but you don't know who exactly buys it. A bitcoin address can send and receive transactions, but we don't know who is behind that address.
1175  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 08:01:48 AM
Why you want fill a new form? People already filled before join your campaign.
Too many people won't see this rule  Huh

because you didn't need to fill in your public address back then
1176  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: October 18, 2017, 08:00:06 AM
I think people looking for price to regain the lost ground will need to wait a bit, it is all the market that is bleeding including modt recent ICOs

maybe, but SONM is a no future project too 

no future? lol
1177  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 07:32:59 AM

confirmed
1178  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 07:13:20 AM
I am really interested in the project. Wish it will get on new exchange though, not really keen on Etherdelta, feels like there's lots of market manipulation going on.

thats not a real exchange. Unless the company actually gets it listed on a legit exchange (livecoin, bittrex, binance, kraken, ...), its not listed in my opinion Smiley In two months tops they'll be listed on a bigger one no doubt
1179  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Bounties (Altcoins) / Re: [BOUNTY][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 18, 2017, 05:21:08 AM
Hey guys, I claimed my rewards through the form, yet I haven't gotten a confirmation or something, is that normal?
1180  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Change - The First Decentralysed Crypto Bank [ICO September 16th] on: October 17, 2017, 10:28:54 PM
ICO price was 1 ETH = 500 CAG.  

I think there could have been more communication from the team to avoid this.

When you google change bank, you just get the website. Though good, they also need a reddit page, among other things. Many easy things to do to get word out about how big their project could be!



as long as they're not officially  listed on a real exchange, prices are still a guess


Yes, this is a good point. I think when we do start to see action it will be big.

Also, please check out this:

http://futureofchange.peatix.com/

Event with OmiseGo and Change Bank! This doesn't mean, necessarily, that they are working together, but it's still great exposure.

Change and OmiseGo would make a great fit, if plans come out that they'll work together both coins could see some huge upside potential!
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