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LOL never seen so many n00b accounts on one page. Boys try to mature your sockpuppets to at least double digit post counts BEFORE using them to scam! ROOTFL
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Providing entertainment by proving I am an Idiot. -Hueristic
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Right at this moment I'd say this is a super solid play:  should go post it in their thread with the caption *cough* just sayin i wouldn't do it because i don't have the constitution for trolling but it would be funny. They don't need super Masternodes anymore! |
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Providing entertainment by proving I am an Idiot. -Hueristic
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Reading comprehension is hard. -Hueristic
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I was a bit exaggerating, sorry for that. But you still didn't answer my question why he would even lie about this?
BitFinex is a serious exchange they added DRK/LTC for one reason alone, strong development support. Monero is still in its infancy, its just not going to happen. EDIT: However, if there are negotiations in place, please have someone more technical and more fluent in English represent Monero community! David is not the person for this job! David came into monero-pools channel couple of times in the last month or so, asking what he needs to buy to mine 50XMR/day. He is completely clueless. 18 March 2015 5:08 PM <davidlatapie> Hi
5:08 PM <davidlatapie> What is the most profitable configuration for mining monero?
5:09 PM <davidlatapie> (either CPU or GPU)12 March 2015 2:13 AM <davidlatapie> Hi
2:15 AM <davidlatapie> Question:
2:15 AM <davidlatapie> Which hardware would I need to make more than 50 monero a day by mining?
I'm going to assume that those quotes from "davidlatapie" are fabricated. EDIT: I hope they are! No, this was the real davidlatapie, miners logging monero-pools channel can confirm. I don't remember seeing the exchange but it wouldn't surprise me. David is more of a business and organizational guy on the team, isn't that technical by own description, and certainly isn't an experienced miner. He has some business interest in mining now and has been asking questions because he isn't afraid to acknowledge when he doesn't know something, and wants to become better informed. What's wrong with that? Good point. Im afraid to say those quotes are most likely not fabricated. i mean check this : I'm trying to install NEM, please help 1. http://bob.nem.ninja/docs/#installation2. Dowloaded http://bob.nem.ninja/nis-ncc-0.5.19.tgz3. uncompressed in dedicated folder 4. launched from Terminal (I'm on Ubuntu) nem/package/nix.runNis.sh 5. Result /nem/package/nix.runNis.sh: line 3 : cd: nis: No such file or directory
Errorr : Can't find or load org.nem.core.deploy.CommonStarter
/nem/package/nix.runNis.sh: line 5 : cd: « OLDPWD » not defined
Idea? Java 8 is installed. the guy has 0 clue about anything technology-wise. i think he knows how to give a talk though. actually i was shocked when i saw this post and "monero core team" attached to it. :-0 . Stupid, just unbelievable. :rolleyes: BTW I think David mentioned he is trying to learn Linux just because of Monero, which is pretty admirable IMO. |
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So you're asking not to speculate but to base matters on his posts only on the subjects that suit your personal agenda?
Also, have you finished high school yet? If you had, you'd probably know that something going up 2.5x is not equal to something going up 250%. Ok, I can understand you're not good with numbers, and hence can perhaps using some twisted logic think it doesn't matter for someone if he sells at 0.01 or 0.025 if he just sells enough (50k was the number for "enough" in your case), but I can tell you that it really does matter.
If you're saying someone is "helping to create the entire infrastructure", it means he is helping to do something very fundamental to the coin's infrastructure itself, that it wouldn't be the same coin without it. At least that's how the concept of infrastructure is thought of in the software development business.
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But if they instead generated a unique address(es) for each account, wouldn't that mean that there is no need to deal with payment IDs? I'm ignorant here.
Monero uses stealth addresses, automatically generating one-time use addresses behind the scenes. The equivalent of generating a unique address, without using a payment ID, would be generating a unique wallet for each Monero customer. It's much more elegant to use the payment ID.Elegance does not equate to secure. If that seed gets impounded or stolen. Should be diversified and offline for all accounts separately. As I stated, so in an emergency the seeds can be sent to the owners. Unless I an not comprehending something? This seems to be a weakness in the system compounded by the fact of centralization which in itself is not diversified over multiple markets. That is one big attack vector. It would suck if that key got Stolen/Hacked/Seized before a decentralized exchange came online. MP was bad enough. In order to operate a hot wallet their web application would need to have access to each of those wallets. If you can compromise one you can compromise them all, so there's literally no security benefit to running multiple hot wallets. The correct solution is a hot wallet that balances off to a cold wallet, and the only way for funds to get back into the hot wallet (for a run on withdrawals) is by manual transfer, no need to break the payment ID system:) Why do exchanges not use tokens and only activate wallets for updates and/or withdrawals? Then all wallets can be cold and separate (as well as separately encrypted) for a majority of the time. Sorry if this is a stupid question as I've never really thought of how exchanges operate. Also there would be a higher level of control as during updates the process can be monitored and there can be checks for an inordinate amount of wallets be activated at once thereby adding a layer of checks that can notify operators of suspicious activity. I would think this would make it pretty tough to steal 7000 BTC. It's likely mostly a business decision. Altcoin (and btc) exchanges work on one of the premises of being almost instantaneous in transactions. If all withdrawals were manual, it would likely scare away more customers, because it would slow down withdrawals dramatically. And most customers seems to want speed/convenience over security (and also the opportunity to do arbitrage). They would also need more man power to handle all transactions manually. Thus having less revenue, but a larger overhead. As such every exchange do their own risk-analysis of what they are willing to put in the hot wallet. There are a few places that do it the air gapped way. I wasn't recommending manual transactions at all, it seems to me wrappers could handle individual wallet accessing pretty easily from warm storage, Air gapping of course is the most secure but for obvious reasons you already stated only a percentage can be Cold. Maybe I'm not explaining my thoughts here. Is there any flowchart's of a standard exchange model around? |
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Neat tool, nice to have. Personally I never really minded the sig ads that much. I am more bothered by the low quality/irrelevant/spammy posts that the sig ads/campaigns unintentionally promote to these forums.
When I decide whether to ignore someone the Sig can be the deciding factor. |
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Yep nice buy wall. And no resistance till... well as far as I felt like scrolling! .... Offtopic edit: reflecting on writing this, I now realize why I scored higher for "perceiving" than "judging" on this Myers-Briggs test I just took again after someone mentioned the INTJ archetype on the other thread  ENTP here. The visionary! I'm an INTP myself though I think the previous time I took it I was INFP, but before that INTP again too. We all have such importance in our lives ENFP here. All N, but I'm not surprised. No surprise at all, lets play "Guess Smooths Profile". My guess is INTJ |
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The problem with people like you is straw men, red herrings, non sequiturs, ad nauseams, and now ad hominems.
Next time save yourself some effort and use "Logical Fallacy" instead, even though none of those tactics have actually been used against you.
Math is hard.
Yes it is. W00ps, now one has. ... I am doing Monero because I believe in net neutrality, we believe in fairness (of distribution but also of transaction - forcing people to be private or to be transparent means being unfair to some parties), we believe in decentralisation, we believe in future-proof (scalable, well-written) code. And I believe that placing our why before our how is the right things to do. fluffypony recently said on IRC: 9:03 AM <crocket> fluffypony, Why are you doing monero?
9:05 AM <•fluffypony> Three reasons:
9:07 AM <•fluffypony> 1. Bitcoin has reached a point where they're stuck with inefficiencies and stumbling blocks (eg. block size) that they can't change without massively politicizing the decision. I wanted to contribute to something not so...precarious
9:08 AM <•fluffypony> 2. Monero is the first truly interesting and noteworthy altcoin I've found, and I believe that advancing it is akin to advancing science or art, without being overly self-important.
9:10 AM <•fluffypony> 3. I of course want to make money, but I believe the best way to do so is to build peripheral services that can profit as the economy builds out.
These are our whys. What are yours (whether you are a dev or a supporter)? (I'm not implying no DASH developers have other goal; actually, I do not imply anything about DASH or any other crypto than Monero, so don't quote me out of context) You mean there are people in the world that take action based on their moral compass as opposed to sheer profiting? Is it true? |
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But if they instead generated a unique address(es) for each account, wouldn't that mean that there is no need to deal with payment IDs? I'm ignorant here.
Monero uses stealth addresses, automatically generating one-time use addresses behind the scenes. The equivalent of generating a unique address, without using a payment ID, would be generating a unique wallet for each Monero customer. It's much more elegant to use the payment ID.Elegance does not equate to secure. If that seed gets impounded or stolen. Should be diversified and offline for all accounts separately. As I stated, so in an emergency the seeds can be sent to the owners. Unless I an not comprehending something? This seems to be a weakness in the system compounded by the fact of centralization which in itself is not diversified over multiple markets. That is one big attack vector. It would suck if that key got Stolen/Hacked/Seized before a decentralized exchange came online. MP was bad enough. In order to operate a hot wallet their web application would need to have access to each of those wallets. If you can compromise one you can compromise them all, so there's literally no security benefit to running multiple hot wallets. The correct solution is a hot wallet that balances off to a cold wallet, and the only way for funds to get back into the hot wallet (for a run on withdrawals) is by manual transfer, no need to break the payment ID system:) Why do exchanges not use tokens and only activate wallets for updates and/or withdrawals? Then all wallets can be cold and separate (as well as separately encrypted) for a majority of the time. Sorry if this is a stupid question as I've never really thought of how exchanges operate. Also there would be a higher level of control as during updates the process can be monitored and there can be checks for an inordinate amount of wallets be activated at once thereby adding a layer of checks that can notify operators of suspicious activity. I would think this would make it pretty tough to steal 7000 BTC. XMR.FROM as a natural side-kick to XMR.TO has been talked about here. Not sure as to if it's being developed, but seems like it would be a good start to creating more Monero exchange options.
Unfortunately, the domain .from doesn't exist.  Would have loved to get that.  Something ICANN should consider. generalizethis you can always request them to create it. Sounds like a good idea and may float. I heard a rumor that soon you will be able to run a full node on a raspberry pi. So I went to Adafruit.com and ordered a Raspberry Pi 2. Adafruit accepts bitcoin, so I was able to pay with Monero using XMR.to. With a case, that comes to about 73 moneroj. Damn, that's a good service! Now that I am spending moneroj I need to start buying more.  KickAss! https://www.youtube.com/v/M8pR1rZZHEs |
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Oh well, Monero action is slow currently anyway. So much time otherwise wasted if just looking at charts, might as well share good ideas not entirely speculation related. In any regard, discussing these ideas are important for us as a community for the new world that Monero might accelerate us into. How's that for speculation, on topic enough? I speculate your speculation will not be here when I return.  Gotta run guys have fun. |
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I think you could make the case that many people's good intentions are actually subconscious rationalizations supporting the status-qua of the dominant social order.
Feel free to delete this Smooth.
^^^THIS, and Smooth is gonna be hating us. Hey they deleted our off topic thread. |
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^ do you realize vertoe made that post after the price had doubled after he had dumped? Often it doesn't even take that much of butt hurt to make a man bitter.
Yes his posts were do to being butthurt just like you were butthurt from getting boned on the instamine. Oh wait? Sky is blue, trains go fast, therefor banana is yellow. Oh wait?  No wonder you a fanboi, your incapable of correlation. If you're trying to say something, just say it. Don't waste my time on your trolling strategies. I already said it, if your incapable of grasping it then that is your own failure. There was a hefty amount of butt hurt in vertoe's post, he felt he wasn't appreciated enough for his development efforts, and after he dumped the price went quite quickly from 0.01 to 0.024. There is zero butt hurt on my part as I managed to mine and buy cheap coins just fine. If there is something else you don't understand don't hesitate to ask. Your Hypocrisy is only outweighed by your deterministic assumption of knowing his state of mind. |
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^ do you realize vertoe made that post after the price had doubled after he had dumped? Often it doesn't even take that much of butt hurt to make a man bitter.
Yes his posts were do to being butthurt just like you were butthurt from getting boned on the instamine. Oh wait? Sky is blue, trains go fast, therefor banana is yellow. Oh wait? No wonder you a fanboi, your incapable of correlation. If you're trying to say something, just say it. Don't waste my time on your trolling strategies. I already said it, if your incapable of grasping it then that is your own failure. |
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"We must just do the best we can, now as always."
"Fear is failure; I must dare to do wrong. Good!"
"Apparently the method is just this: to store up—no matter how—great treasures of energy and purity, until they begin to do the work themselves (in the way the Hindus call 'Sukshma')."
"Don't worry; work!"
"Reward is the direct and immediate consequence of Work."
"I think that every failure will be certainly traceable to my own damn foolishness, every little success to courage, skill, wit, and tenacity.
“I would rather obey a fine lion, much stronger than myself, than two hundred rats of my own species.”― Voltaire Rite? |
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whats happening to this coin ? was busy last few days.
it was going up good and now it seems to be having a hard time stuck at 300k sat
Did i miss something?
The sky is falling. Here read all about it in the Speculation thread where these questions get answered. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.0;topicseenalso where we went WAY off topic. |
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But if they instead generated a unique address(es) for each account, wouldn't that mean that there is no need to deal with payment IDs? I'm ignorant here.
Monero uses stealth addresses, automatically generating one-time use addresses behind the scenes. The equivalent of generating a unique address, without using a payment ID, would be generating a unique wallet for each Monero customer. It's much more elegant to use the payment ID.Elegance does not equate to secure. If that seed gets impounded or stolen. Should be diversified and offline for all accounts separately. As I stated, so in an emergency the seeds can be sent to the owners. Unless I an not comprehending something? This seems to be a weakness in the system compounded by the fact of centralization which in itself is not diversified over multiple markets. That is one big attack vector. It would suck if that key got Stolen/Hacked/Seized before a decentralized exchange came online. MP was bad enough. |
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