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11761  Other / Meta / Quickseller's feedback on my account on: May 19, 2015, 09:57:50 AM
Quickseller's feedback on my account:

"Openly stating that he is willing to back out of a deal prior to him committing his money to a trade if he were to find better terms.

This account was also likely purchased on or around February 2015, so the registration date and time online should not be considered to be accurate for this account."


@bold: Yes I said it. I have never done it but if the buyer doesn't respond for a day or delays the trade or abuses me, why shouldn't I walk out of a deal? I haven't robbed anyone and this is clearly a dominating statement by him. Prove that I have walked out of a deal before and then talk. Ask, MZ about my behavior as I dealt with him yesterday.

@MZ: Did I seem a person to back out of a deal? Did I seem fishy? Dint I try to complete my deal?




@green: I've never changed my password.  Cheesy

Check my post here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0

And my post in 2013: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259765.msg2820123#msg2820123


@MZ: Please check the BTC address I sent you yesterday.

I won't spend a penny to buy any account when I can create an account for free. This account I myself created in 2013 and then I dint like bitcoins as it was not legal in my country and then I came back to sell my gift cards.


I'm shocked to see a reputed escrow to behave so immaturely. He has proved to give feedback based on personal gurdges because I told him I won't be using him as an escrow.


I would like to ask Badbear to remove him from the default trust. It's so immoral and unethical of him to make assumptions like this. I'm myself a reputed member of another forum and till date, I have never backed out of any deal. Instead people have backed out from my deals and have scammed me. I just gave quickseller an example that I can walk out if no money was exchanged but this is the limit of him giving me a negative feedback. The second statement proves how good he is in verifying scams.


Quickseller, I'm sad to see that you now dislike me for saying that I won't use you as an escrow. I won't ask you to remove my neutral feedback because I am matured enough to handle your dislike. I only want to tell you that the number of times I have been scammed, you can't even imagine. Not only in virtual life, in real life as well. You are quite arrogant and this dislike would get you nothing besides more dislike by other members. Sorry to see a reputed member behaving this way. I respected you for being a trusted member of this forum but now  Undecided
11762  Other / Archival / Re: Quickseller, trust abuse, innacurate negative ratings, unprofesional escrow... on: May 19, 2015, 09:49:48 AM
Because you already agreed to a deal with someone else under terms negotiated. I don't see any reason why anyone would ever want to do business with you if you will backout simply because you get a better offer. I cannot count how many times I have had to turn down better offers for things I was selling on here because I had previously come to agreements with traders for something I was buying/selling. I have seen similar activity of the most reputable traders on here.

Also see my above comments about what it means to enter into a contract/deal.


It sounds like you are just looking for loopholes for ways to back out of deals.

You should have been sued for this. This is not only something that will open you up to liability to the buyer, but is also most likely against fair housing regulations. Another reason not to trade with you.

I am also curious to know what your main account is. I know that you are posting from a purchased account and that you purchased it in or around February of this year.


@bold: Are you talking to me? This is my account and I dislike account sales. Don't play the assume game with me. Give me proof as I already own this account and have my proof. BTC address posted on https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=259765.msg2820123#msg2820123 and my address posted here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=996318.0. Because my account is older to yours, you found it worthy of a feedback.



@green: LOL! My mom is a lawyer and she sued the other party as he put the check in the bank without confirming the deal. You got to check the law before talking this as you seem to be unaware of how deals work. The owner wanted to scam my mother of $300 and if she had not complained we would be down by $1000. You probably wanted me to get cheated.  Sad I'm sorry but I am not that rich that I can afford to get cheated and it's sad to see you supporting the owner who was a cheat.


I am free to walk out of a deal if the buyer or escrow doesn't respond on time. No rule states that if I back out, I am a scammer.  

And regarding the neutral feedback you found my deserving of with regards to this paragraph:


If I am not comfortable with the attitude of the buyer/seller or the attitude of the escrow, I am free to cancel the transaction. Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? Why shouldn't I go for a deal that would save me from paying the escrow fee? I can also choose another person as an escrow. It's my wish and I don't get your logic.


@bold: This statement means that if the buyer/escrow start misbehaving or/and abuse me, according to you I should continue with the deal. Thanks.


@red: This is another example not related to the bold statement. If I get 1 buyer who wants an escrow and a second person who doesn't want an escrow, I will definitely choose the latter. It doesn't mean that I will back out of a deal I committed to. I will backout when I haven't committed to my deal. I don't backout when I have given my word. That's your assumption about me which is definitely wrong. I stand by my words even if I lose money by not choosing another person who will give me a profitable deal.


Your statement "I cannot count how many times I have had to turn down better offers for things I was selling on here because I had previously come to agreements with traders for something I was buying/selling." This has happened with me as well where I did not respond a person who was offering me $16.5 via Perfect Money for $15 BTC and another person offered $15 via Perfect Money for $15 BTC. I chose the latter as he responded fast and I told the former person that I'm sorry as I have committed to another person. I don't accept 2 deals at a time. I probably don't respond to the other person if I cannot commit to him.
11763  Other / Archival / Re: Quickseller, trust abuse, innacurate negative ratings, unprofesional escrow... on: May 18, 2015, 08:49:12 PM
He agreed to a deal with a seller and once escrow was setup he backed out of the deal. This is a sign that he was trying to avoid using escrow and only agreed to accept escrow to avoid setting off any red flags to others. Despite this being a bad idea, often times people will simply agree to trade without escrow if one does not respond and setup escrow quickly enough.

A neutral rating is more appropriate then, since no coins were lost and no scam was attempted.  People are allowed to back out of deals.  You should put in the rating your belief it's a sign he was trying to avoid escrow.
The scam that was attempted was that he tried to scam the bitcointalk account from the seller. The reason given in this thread was something along the lines that he did not trust me, however that is contradictory to the fact that he asked me to escrow for him.

The note in my rating does give facts that would make a reasonable person believe he was trying to avoid escrow.

IMO once escrow is setup for a deal it should be pretty much set in stone. As if you are selling something the seller may send what is being sold right away assuming that the escrow is going to be funded (this has happened a number of times if you look at various escrowers' sent negative ratings). The only real reason to back out of a deal once escrow is setup is because of some significant change in circumstances, for example didn't receive money you were expecting, and canceling a deal should be mutually agreed to, meaning both parties agree.

@bold: If that's the case, then probably I wouldn't use you as an escrow. If I am not comfortable with the attitude of the buyer/seller or the attitude of the escrow, I am free to cancel the transaction. Also, if I find another buyer who doesn't want to use an escrow and is willing to go first, paying me a higher amount which can earn me profit and I will pay him after his payment is received, why should I use an escrow and pay his fees? Why shouldn't I go for a deal that would save me from paying the escrow fee? I can also choose another person as an escrow. It's my wish and I don't get your logic.

Set as stone is as if I/any other member is obliged to completing a deal with you no matter if he is happy with your terms or not. You are talking as if you are the boss and the buyer/seller are your slaves and have to listen to you. I have cancelled real deals as well where I needed to rent an apartment and after setting the terms with the broker, I cancelled it as the buyer was a nuisance. Doesn't mean I wanted to scam him.

Today my one deal got cancelled after setting up an escrow and the other party backed out. That dint make me feel to leave him a negative feedback. He just wasn't happy with the terms. Fortunately, my other deal went through with an escrow. Any deal can be cancelled any time but that doesn't mean that it was cancelled due to the buyer/seller wanting to scam a person. A person uses an escrow to protect himself from being scammed and not to be gifted with a negative feedback if he doesn't use the escrow services after agreeing to the terms.
11764  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Who are THEY? Are they Muslim? on: May 18, 2015, 08:28:44 PM

The funny thing here is if a "muslim" would be peaceful, will you think the contrary or not? I hope you understand what I wanted to say.


There are peaceful muslims as well and it's not possible that all those who believe in Islam are terrorists or ISIS leaders/members. The issue here is that there are some who interpret the holy book of Islam as one that spreads violence and hate and hence they believe that the religion teaches others to hate. They don't understand that they are actually supporting the words of these evil people (terrorists/ISIS) who spread the wrong message. They are the ones who are responsible for this hatred towards Islam and people just blindly believe them.

People earlier used to believe that Muslims should only marry within their caste and they used to kill others who used to marry hindus and other castes. Now that's not the case and there are so many inter caste marriages which proves that there is a change in the thoughts of many Muslims.

It's wrong if people start cursing the people who are Muslims just because of these terror attacks.
11765  Other / Meta / Re: Why is the forum loading so slow? on: May 18, 2015, 07:18:39 PM
It takes about 30 seconds to load sometimes while sometimes it loads pretty quickly (less than 10 seconds). Don't know what issue it might be.
11766  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2015, 06:59:48 PM

You sound like you think that I hate Muslims or Islam. My statements about Islam an Muslims aren't hateful. They are simply fact as I see it. What this thread is about is why Islam hates people. So you might actually find some people speaking here who are hateful towards Islam as well.

Islam is a religion. Islam doesn't hate anybody or do anything at all until it gets into the hearts of people. Then it is the Muslim people who hate.

Because Islam is a religion that doesn't speak the salvation that Jesus provides, and because it preaches a works-righteousness salvation which is sending people to Hell, Islam really hates the people who convert to Islam the most >>> the Muslims. It doesn't hate anyone else until the Muslims who become deeply Islamic start to hate other people.

If you had been a person living in England when Hitler sent over his rockets that destroyed most of the city, and killed all kinds of British people, would you keep on loving Hitler if your family had been destroyed by him? It is difficult for people to keep from hating others who destroy their lives, even though the hatred mostly makes things worse.

Smiley

Your statement seemed that you either hate the religion or are spreading hate about Islam. This thread title itself is wrong. Nobody should hate anything is life as the word HATE has an intense meaning. It's OK to dislike someone or something but not HATE.

People who hate Islam or other people who are hated by Islam actually have no reason to hate but they are just taught to hate each other. It's this hatred which makes them commit a crime and not that they want to commit a crime. That's why we should hate the word "Hate" and not the actual person.

Hitler killed many innocent people but I still hate his thoughts that made him evil. I hate the evil in him and not him. He was not born evil but his thoughts made him evil. We should hate the evil in him that made him a bad person. If he had destroyed my family, I would hate his evil deeds as he did wrong. It would be wrong on my path if I did wrong to him because he did wrong to my family. It would make me a criminal. I might have felt like doing wrong but my conscious would stop me.


I don't know what you mean by people who are deeply Islamic and your comparison with Jesus and Christianity. Priests who I consider the preachers of God have themselves behaved badly towards me and my family. They showed hatred to me when I was a child. Hence I don't consider Christianity anywhere above Islam.




Is telling the truth to spread love hate, or is telling lies to spread Wink looove Wink hate?

Most of us have a built in moral compass. You do not need to be a believer to see toward were the needle of your compass points to... Depending on your core religion dogma that needle will be boosted to a particular direction. If someone's direction is opposite to your needle then that particular system is incompatible to your core belief system, religious or not.


It is not that complicated. When was the last time you've got an urge to burn down the home of someone who left christianity behind to become an atheist or simply stop talking to that person?

"LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church"

When you say and think that, are you feeling threaten for your life or totally relaxed saying it? Just by simply reading my question and formulating an answer in your head you feel that great relief of how lucky you are to be a Christian, no matter the bad ones around you...

You're welcome.


 Smiley





@blue: Love doesn't harm anyone except when it's blind love. You can spread love by not harming anyone emotionally or physically.

I did not choose to be born as a Christian. If I had to choose to be born as a Muslim, Christian or Hindu or any other religion, I would chose to not be born. If my religion was so good, why would priests rape innocent girls? Priests are supposed to be believers of Christ and they do wrong towards humans?

It may be true that those who have left Islam might have been punished. But those who punished them can't be called Muslims themselves. I don't consider evil people worthy of even being alive as they are cruel. It's because of such people that the entire religion is blamed while I know of those who are good and criticize these acts. They also are Muslims but their conscience doesn't tell them to be evil.


@red: When I say this, I don't care what happens to me next. I know there are some who get scared of criticizing their religion because of people who have blind faith.
11767  Economy / Services / Re: .- on: May 18, 2015, 05:21:10 PM
Twitter handle: @bernadette20141

BTC: 15kADsBTud7qMKqD6cBcvGpnJX37Lznuhh
11768  Economy / Services / Re: Need money, looking for work. on: May 18, 2015, 04:47:48 PM
If you are from India, I have a small task for you and will pay you via Perfect Money $0.2.
11769  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2015, 04:29:11 PM

Actually, I don't think he "hate" Muslims. He want to "spread" hatred and tell "come to Christianity". (no offence)

LOL! I am myself unhappy being a Christian as I don't believe in Christianity and those have blind faith in the Church. I have seen so many Christians who just think about themselves and care a damn about others. *Show offs* No religion is good or bad but it's the person who is good/bad. Spreading hatred gets you hate in return and spreading love gets you love.
11770  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 18, 2015, 04:15:57 PM
In America, there are at least thousands, maybe millions, of Muslims. If some average person quits being a Muslim, he will be ostracized by his Muslim community. If he is a big Muslim person, a Muslim civil rights leader, for example, if he quits Islam (or even changes Islamic denomination) he or family members might be assassinated. Just ask Malcolm X.

The Muslim guys who executed/assassinated Malcolm X (1965) still will not admit that they did it. They want us to think that Islam is peaceful.

If an Islamite says that Islam is peaceful towards people who are not Muslims, he is lying or ignorant. Either way, he is not to be trusted. A Muslim is a death threat to all non-Muslims, just by being alive.

Smiley

Am I dreaming or you seriously said this  Undecided So much hatred towards Muslims or Islam won't earn you anything in life but hatred just kills a person's soul day by day. Leave the hatred and then you might change your perspective towards life and religions.
11771  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: CONTEST: How many Bitcoin Penny™ coins are in the jar? on: May 18, 2015, 03:36:13 PM
Congrats to the winner. Cheesy
11772  Local / Marketplace (India) / Re: [WTS] Flipkart evouchers via Payza/PM/OKPay/BTC on: May 18, 2015, 03:32:03 PM
Flipkart voucher worth INR 500 available
I'll but it off you ASAP, please let me know via PM

Pm sent. Voucher is still available.

but you said that voucher has been sold ?

Yeah it has been sold after I posted the above reply. The above post quoted was at 5:33 p.m. and the OP was updated at 7:55 p.m.
11773  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: May 18, 2015, 02:55:53 PM
Because believing in something without evidence is idiotic.

All religions are nothing more than scams preying on stupid people.

Same applies to atheists who believe that all the wrong done in this world is because of religion and their belief in God. For them, evil people are evil because of religion. They say that because they get abused by people who are theists (although it's wrong that those people abuse them and they are bad people) but that doesn't mean that those bad people do the same because of their belief. They are just plain bad/evil.
11774  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Get-Paid.com - Get Paid BTC For Doing Free & Fun Stuff! [Running over 6 years!] on: May 18, 2015, 02:49:15 PM
ME. Completed one PPC offer Cheesy

ID: Erikalui

Way to go!  Wink

Thanks a lot for the credit of 250 coins  Grin

Will be waiting for more contests.
11775  Economy / Services / Re: Offering Free Escrow Service | Fast, Secure & Reliable! | I cover TX fees too!!! on: May 18, 2015, 02:34:38 PM
Thanks for working as an escrow for my deal Smiley
11776  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Get-Paid.com - Get Paid BTC For Doing Free & Fun Stuff! [Running over 6 years!] on: May 18, 2015, 02:18:50 PM
ME. Completed one PPC offer Cheesy

ID: Erikalui
11777  Local / India / Re: Bitcoin mentioned in AIB new video on: May 18, 2015, 12:50:07 PM
LOL! First they used to say that onions and mangoes will be accepted as dowry and not bitcoins. Means bitcoins is getting famous these days. Hope Kapil too cracks some jokes in his show  Cheesy
11778  Other / Meta / Re: "Quickseller" marked my account red rating with no evidence in ANGER, UNETHICAL on: May 18, 2015, 12:11:37 PM
Yeah true. Only Badbear can find a connection with the IP addresses and not the others who have left him negative just based on Badbear's trusted feedback as they have no evidence to present here. To me it just appears as trust abuse.

I'm guilty of being one who left negative feedback based on BB's ability to look at IP addresses.

The OP has sent me many death threats.  So IMHO it's important for new users to see that scum get more that a simple -6.  That scum has done much more than scam.

If I knew who he was and where he lived, he'd get Alberta Justice from me.   He probably wouldn't so quick to throw out death threats after that.   Smiley


Oh damn! I am sorry but I dint know that. He's a psycho.


QS left negative feedback before BadBear left and also once you strongly believe a user is scammer, you can leave negative feedback. Leaving more than one feedback will also help in preventing negative trust rating to be a neutral rating.

OK. The trust system doesn't show the time and all show the same date. Also, QS dint give any reference nor evidence so his feedback unlike the user railzand who left him feedback claiming the same with a reference to a post that has been deleted. Preventing from a neutral rating is definitely a good idea but there are less chances that a scammer can get positives from a default trust member (which is the case with the OP). If I believe a person is a scammer for sure, I'll leave him negative feedback (but that's not when others leave him feedback and then I negate him).

In this case, the OP does seem suspicious as he hasn't only received feedback from Badbear but from others who have made such claims 4 months back.
11779  Local / Marketplace (India) / Re: [WTS] Flipkart evouchers via Payza/PM/OKPay/BTC on: May 18, 2015, 12:03:38 PM
Flipkart voucher worth INR 500 available
I'll but it off you ASAP, please let me know via PM

Pm sent. Voucher is still available.
11780  Other / Politics & Society / Re: ISIS leader, Baghdadi, says "Islam was never a religion of peace. on: May 18, 2015, 10:58:14 AM
He might be one of them.
Thats the thing..

They dont wear a uniform.
They walk around like civs and then when accual civilians are hit by bombs and artillery then they cry about the west being the bad guy.

If you are still in ISIS territory then you are a friend of ISIS unless you are unable to flee.
So live with them, die with them.



I dint mean to accuse him of anything but his statement "Laugh because you're still alive" is suspicious. This indirectly means that I may be a next target of ISIS? Why does he want me to be a target? Just because I don't agree with him? *Sick*
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