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11781  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Is amusement causing the downfall of society ? on: December 10, 2018, 01:36:06 AM
1984 and Brave New world had in common a centralized government, a giant empire that controls everything you do and think.

While 1984 people are controlled by an the big brother that seed and hear everything (through cams and agents) ,  in brave New world people are just conditiinated since they were born to behave in a certain way.

Amazing books.

No doubt bitcoin and the whole cypherpunk moviment were influenced by those writers, and it is a response to the big centralization they predicted.



However, I read somewhere that bitcoin could have an unexpected and opposite effect: it could, as a world currency, serve a world government. This is far from happening imo, but is worth thinking about it.
11782  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Ethereum ico price on: December 10, 2018, 12:00:58 AM
What I'm saying is bitcoin would have more support from normal investors if the founder was actually known. 

Would you trust Amazon if Jeff Bezos sold all his stock? You would lose faith in the company.

I think that one of the genialities is that the founder is unknown.
If he was known, bitcoin would be centralized on Satoshi. Like the Vitalik's blockchain.

Every tweet, every interview, all he does would be attached to bitcoin. People would be looking for details in his personal life (like a lover or some legal problem whatever) and price would go up and down... Everything would be centralized on him.

Disappearing was a great idea, so bitcoin could grow by itself decentralized
11783  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: Ethereum ico price on: December 09, 2018, 10:10:48 PM
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A lot of people who inspect the source seem to say things to the tune of ‘bitcoin doesn’t have smart contracts for security reasons’ which seems a worrying statement...
I am kinda illiterate in it so no comments.

But there's still a reason why bitcoin doesn't have it and it's not even a BIP.


Ok I am not a specialist, but I have read some about this.

Ethereum is known to be "Turing complete". His means that anything programmable can be programmed in the Network. There are some mechanisms which protect the network against attacks such as DOS (denial of service, like applications that would be looping forever and crash the network), like the gas system.

However, as anything can be done, it's both a strength and a weakness. As someone one day may be able to make a smartc ontract that would somehow attack the network.

Another important characteristic of ethereum network are the Dapps. Decentralized Applications are applications that cannot be stopped. This may also be a security problem...

Bitcoinon the other hand is not Turing complete and it's programmable languages are much simpler. So the attacker would have less possibilities to attempt something.

There are many other people here that know a lot more, I would like to hear them
11784  Other / Ivory Tower / Re: I would like to hear your opinion about Ethereum Classic on: December 08, 2018, 08:51:52 PM
I read some sad  news few days ago.

On ethereum classic official Twitter
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ETCDEV
@etcdev
3 de dez
https://mobile.twitter.com/etcdev/status/1069625401515872256

Unfortunately ETCDEV cannot continue to work in the current situation and has to announce shutdown of our current activities



What are the implications of this to the project and the coin?  Their GitHub was recently hacked also..

Probably a dead project soon..?
11785  Other / Meta / Re: List of inactive DT1 & DT2 from long period, I think need add more to keep fresh on: December 08, 2018, 08:08:43 PM
On the other hand , most people want to get a green trust rating and become a DT, as the account becomes more valuable.

I would suggest that if you want to get a green trust rating or become DT to make your account more valuable, then you are here for the wrong reasons and will probably end up with red trust.

Thanks for your suggestion, but that's not my intention. I dont thinkthis is a fair accusation.I was criticising that,but my English may not be so clear....
I don't even buy / sell things here.

That's happening to some people as coolcryptovalor said..


Quote from: o_e_l_e_o
Oh, I wasn't aiming that at you at all. I was just talking in generalities. Apologies if it sounded like I was accusing you of anything.
No problem. It was just a misunderstanding.
11786  Other / Meta / Re: List of inactive DT1 & DT2 from long period, I think need add more to keep fresh on: December 08, 2018, 02:36:43 PM
I believe more DT are not necessary, as the current active dt members are acting very fast when needed.

There are many recent examples.

On the other hand , most people want to get a green trust rating and become a DT, as the account becomes more valuable.

There are also many examples of new users who were  apparently doing a nice job and were quickly tagged for suspicious activity or worse..

Maybe in local boards , however I doubt many local have an active marketplace.
11787  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: API para dados da Rede do BTC on: December 08, 2018, 01:58:39 AM
Olha, não olhei com detalhes, mas acho q isso aqui talvez ajude

https://www.blocktrail.com/api
11788  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: As últimas 4 verdades sobre o Bitcoin o fim de seus mitos on: December 08, 2018, 01:55:07 AM
Pois é, esse nunca nem deu uma navegada no fórum.

Aqui o pessoal usa btc como moeda no dia a dia para qualquer serviço que seja possível fazer na internet. Desde resolver catchas, fazer páginas web, assinaturas, imagens, trabalhos como desenvolvedor,....

E o mercado financeiro nao é diretamente correlacionado ao bitcoin tb...

Só acertou que o bitcoin tem crises cíclicas e volatilidade...
11789  Other / Meta / Re: bitmover Merit Source Application - and thoughts on Brazilian Bitcoin Community on: December 07, 2018, 07:36:05 PM
Bump after some months.

One merit source was added to Portuguese board, but it's not enough in my opinion.

Other boards like the Russian and Indonesian have highly merited users, but Portuguese board does not. Nobody is able to rank up just posting in the Portuguese board.
11790  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 07, 2018, 05:01:23 PM
I had this crazy idea some other day.
I was thinking about this wall observer pool. Pages of this thread could be used to count  time.

What if instead of "December 15 closing price" we had something like page 24000 closing price"? Lol
11791  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: [TRADUÇÂO] Paper bmoney - Wei Dai on: December 07, 2018, 04:50:35 PM
Bastante interessante. Eu realmente sempre ignorei as referências do white paper do bitcoin. É inegável a semelhança com o blockchain.

Por isso q o Andreas Antonopoulos sempre fala que a grande invenção do Satoshi é o proof of work, pois foi o que permitiu que esse sistema funcionasse (e que não foi previsto nesse artigo do wei daí). Vou estudar mais sobre esse assunto.

Cada vez mais encontramos só desinformação e notícias repetidas por aí. Bom ver algo real e de qualidade.
11792  Economy / Services / Re: [FULL] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | 0.00075 BTC/post on: December 07, 2018, 08:55:39 AM
Congratulations Lucius and oeleo.

Hard competition.

I will keep trying until accepted one day. This is the best campaign in my opinion.
11793  Economy / Services / Re: [2 OPEN SLOTS] ChipMixer Signature Campaign | 0.00075 BTC/post on: December 06, 2018, 05:44:06 PM
2. I just say that LTC address can start with 3 also, why is this shitposting by you?

I don't think it is shitposting, but it is quite irrelevant because nobody is expected to be paid in litecoin here, and there are other coins which starts with 3 (like many of the recently Bitcoin forks). Do I need to specify that this is not a bitcoin private address?

And all this drama is so off topic...
11794  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Como um Exchange Crypto melhor servir os usuários on: December 06, 2018, 05:30:45 PM
Antes de mais nada, respeite as regras do fórum, escrevendo em português na área local do fórum.
Você pode até usar o Google tradutor Wink
11795  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2018, 04:29:57 PM
I would feel fucked up if I didn't have a backup. #DYOR

Well, that's right. I just use a different back up method. Authy.

Your method works well too.
11796  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2018, 04:18:36 PM
Guys, guys... What are you talking about no backup for GA 2FA?

You can fucking write down the "seed", store it in a safe place, and recover from it if needed..

Also, another option is using FIDO 2FA which everyone with a hardware wallet could use. It would be really easy to implement too. And it makes sense, because... crypto, you know.

Have you ever tried to fuking writing down this crazy GA seed ? It's not like a recovery phrase with 12 words... Looks much more like an address.

I have dozens of 2fa seeds, if I had to write all of them I would be fuked up.
11797  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2018, 04:05:58 PM
Which is actually a bit of a problem...
I've always found GA to be a little obscure on how to retrieve your infos if you lost your phone or it suddenly stops working.

Google authenticatior (ga) is not obscure about anything. They clearly state at their website that if you lose your phone, it is over. There is no backup or anything. It is safer, because it cannot be hacked... So safe that even you cannot access if you lose it.

What you can do is use Authy instead of GA, which is backed up in a cloud... It is less secure, as it can be hacked.

More information here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3178131.0

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But don't really see the point of 2FA on the forum though Oo
Not like there is BTC stored here. And hacking an account has 0 value as it would soon be tagged as stolen.


Those accounts are valuable.
They do not hold BTC, but they may have sentiment value... They also have can be used to earn BTC through campaigns/bounties. They also carry your reputation, as some of those accounts have holder hundreds of BTC as escrow or something like that .. some also are used by professional developers..

So, those accounts should be more protected in my opinion.
11798  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 06, 2018, 03:55:18 PM
^ My theory is that there was a bonafide intention to create that new forum software but the development never reached a satisfactory result. Probably many of those initial 6000BTC (is this a completely confirmed exact amount btw?) were spent along the path at price WAY lower than todays.


The value was not spend. I saw the address few months ago and it was intact. I don't want tk find it now but someone posted in a topic few time ago.

I doubt this new forum software is going to beê released anytime soon. I agree with you about 2fa and recovery, that's urgent.

Hilariousandco said it will be released soon (automatic recovery).

2fa is a dream which will never come true. However it would generate a lot of problems too, as people would soon be crying about losing their Google authenticatior...
11799  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: REVOLTADO!! Levei UnTrust de um moderador do BTC Talk na sessão gringa on: December 06, 2018, 10:28:03 AM
Vai no REPUTATION e conta a situação.  Não vai no meta.

Na aba REPUTATION varios DT members podem te ajudar. DT Members sao outros membros com default trust
Algum deles pode te dar um trust positivo, tornando zero o seu trust atual. Ou até alguém pode convencer o Max a dar neutral.

Além disso, envie um pm bem educado para ele, pedindo pra mudar pra neutral

Recomendo ainda que não use seu e-mail que está no perfil, que realmente parece enganoso (bitcoincorebr).

Uma outra opção ainda seria nesse seu post pedir ao theymos q te de um Rename no perfil. Você poderia escolher outro nome parecido.. #BitcoinNucleo sei lá #BitcoinBR sei lá. Você pode até mandar um pm so theymos. Acho que vale tentar.

Me mande um pm quando criar o tópico la q eu dou uma comentada nesse sentido, de que você nunca tentou se passar por ngm.

Não se preocupe que eu acredito que a situação sera resolvida.
11800  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Paying low fees in Ethereum - Gas Limit, Gas Price and Gwei on: December 05, 2018, 09:41:24 PM
I think is possible to pay low fees when sending ERC20 tokens, but as i tested not all ERC20 tokens works in that way, some of them has too high gas price in my opinion, because they not value so much in fiat.

You define the gas price. Those ERC-20 tokens you are talking about probably have a high Gas Limit.

You should always use the recommended gas limit, there is no problem if you put too much Gas , because you will be refunded if you send too much gas.

 Gas Price is the atribute you can reduce, and that is what is going to control the fees of the transaction.
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