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1181  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Considering buying a bitcoin miner on: March 11, 2014, 07:42:05 PM
I am considering getting one Ant, the question is do you think it will pay itself off? Firstly by pay itself off I don't mean in USD spent, but in Bitcoin spent. Would it be able to make back 1 bitcoin at least?

Secondly, I see a lot of people buying so the diff will go up, some calculators tell me that with a 30% diff jump it WILL pay itself off in 3 months(excluding VAT,PSU purchase).
1182  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Mining on: March 11, 2014, 06:18:54 PM
Thumbs up from Satoshi and we're good to go? Cool well that's that sorted then.


Satoshi does not control Bitcoin, sure he made it but he does not control it.
1183  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Difficulty vis-a-vis less hashing power. on: March 11, 2014, 05:53:42 PM
The difficulty will change on the set amount of block. The block will be solved longer than 10 mins because there is less hash power. It might take days to solve one block. The difficulty will decrease eventually after every 504 blocks.

I hope that helps.
The difficulty changes every 2016 blocks in Bitcoin.
1184  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.998 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 11, 2014, 05:12:57 PM
A couple of more questions. They ship, right? No pre-orders or delays? And the second most important question. My country's VAT is 20% of the item's price, what is the price of the item going to be on the box? Some people told me they write $900 which is 300 more than the price of the miner right now.
1185  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.998 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 11, 2014, 04:59:39 PM
I'd say worst case scenario 4 months+. There is a lot of hashrate coming from the late asic manufacturers.
If difficulty is max 20% difficulty increase per 2016 blocks, then there might be a chance.

How fast do they ship to Europe?
1186  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Antminer S1 Sales open] Price changes daily, now 0.998 BTC for 180GH/s on: March 11, 2014, 04:40:02 PM
Hey guys, give me an honest answer here. I live in Europe, if I buy this miner(1BTC) does it have a chance to pay itself off in 2 months? According to www.bitcoinx.com/profit/ it will pay itself off in 48 days.

This one http://btcinvest.net/en/bitcoin-mining-profit-calculator.php?diff=4207145893.95632482&dcosts=620&diff_mincrease=20&blpbtc=25&dhsmhs=180000&diff_mincreasedecrease=0.1&btcusd=640.72&dpowcon=365&btcusd_mincrease=0&pcost=0.14&calcweeks=32&dleadtime=0&action=calc# says it will pay itself off as well factoring in 20% difficulty increase, however at 25% diff increase it's giving me weird results.

Actually that calculator looks a bit broken, but I am not sure.
1187  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: WOW!! Mt Gox returned my bitcoins and funds today! on: March 11, 2014, 04:04:17 PM
Proof of these 100btc? You could be Mark Karpeles or his associates in disguise lying right now.

What made me doubt you is this line

As you can see Mark Karpeles is the honest guy on the planet!!!
1188  Other / Off-topic / Re: This Is Downright Spooky: Shodan; The Dark Search Engine on: March 11, 2014, 03:20:03 PM
Old news, if you hang around 4chan you know about Shodan.
1189  Other / Off-topic / Re: black people not into bitcoin? on: March 11, 2014, 03:22:05 AM
Not to be racist, but I don't know a single black person that owns a bitcoin or is in the bitcoin world.  Anyone?

You've been here longer than I have...

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Date Registered:   May 05, 2011, 11:52:50 PM

...and you haven't heard about DavinciJ15?

Probably the most perfect YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pItsaMSmcPQ

Or my buddy, the Google Glass Guy (GGG, for short): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgg8IWtycKI#t=2703

Here's another one, unless he was the caterer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWcbqKlUeZU#t=655
And I've been here even longer and indeed I was left with the impression that no black people use Bitcoin.

Buuut, I know you dislike them(your thread) so...
1190  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: lost btc on: March 11, 2014, 03:16:35 AM
With only 21 million coins to exist and the high likelihood people will lose them (lots have been lost already), how does this not kill the idea of btc?

Dont get me wrong, I love it, but theres some common sense questions I can't talk myself out of.

Another one is what's the goal of this to replace?  USD/EUR/GOLD/etc?

If cash its flawed in the sense that there's only 21m.  am I to believe 1 btc will be worth 1m?  btc would have to reach 1m in order for the smallest fraction of a btc allowed to be worth 1 cent.  With btc at 1m that makes anyone with 100k btc the richest person in the world and makes Satoshi Nakamoto and multi-trillionaire.

One bitcoin(1BTC) can be subdivided into smaller fractions, like 0.5btc(or say 0.54395834) or 0.00000001. As of now only 8 decimals after the point are allowed, but in the future it can be made to be infinitely divisible.

And yes, Satoshi would indeed be the richest person on Earth, hell with all the money he has he can dominate the Earth(or his descendants) if the worth of coins increases.
1191  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to steal Satoshi's stash? on: March 10, 2014, 10:07:50 PM
if anyone curious whats under the hood of SHA256 :

http://www-ma2.upc.es/~cripto/Q2-06-07/SHA256english.pdf
I am curious, this doesn't mean I will understand even one word from that paper there. A bit too advanced for me.
1192  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to steal Satoshi's stash? on: March 10, 2014, 08:44:51 PM
Here you have list of all private keys. You can just simply look it up:
http://directory.io/
Look harder in the website. Do you see a search button? Figured.

But of course if you call simply look it up the act of traversing 2^256 keys manually, page by page, then you need to visit a mental hospital.
1193  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Freebitco.in on: March 10, 2014, 07:04:54 PM
No, if you roll the number 10000 you win 0.22B, which is really really rare.
1194  Economy / Gambling / Re: Mining is getting me nowhere, what about poker? on: March 10, 2014, 06:42:28 PM
Doesn't playing poker for an income sound too good to be true?

No matter how lucky or good you are a gambling, you can't always be the winner.

As you lose you'll have to take bigger risks to recover, this will most likely drive you bankrupt.
Actually poker also takes skill, so if you are a skilled player yes you can always win. Provided you play in real life.
1195  Other / Off-topic / Re: Chuck Norris Turns 74 Today!: Add A Chuck Norris Truth! on: March 10, 2014, 06:37:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj2Zf9tlg2Y
1196  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How to steal Satoshi's stash? on: March 10, 2014, 06:24:37 PM
Hello!

This is just for educational purposes. We know that Satoshi has an enormous amount of bitcoins and that he has not moved them for a long time. I think we also know the bitcoin addresses containing those bitcoins.

What if someone wanted to steal those bitcoins? They would need both the public key and private key of the address. I know that it would take an enormous amount of time but is this technically doable?

Also, would mining pools be able to push to their clients a script to find those public and private keys? These pools have nowadays an enormous calculation power.
Good luck. If I recall correctly, there are more possible private keys than atoms on earth. If everyone on Earth had a copy of the world's most powerful supercomputer for free, and they were all trying to crack the same address 24/7 with their supercomputer, it would still take too long for anyone who started the process to ever live to see the address be cracked.
Actually, nearly as many atoms in the entire universe if I remember correctly. So earth is just a small number of atoms compared to the priv keys.
1197  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Co-workers talking about bitcoin.... so much misinformation still today on: March 10, 2014, 06:18:06 PM
I'm at work right now w/ 2 of my co-workers and one of them says "did you hear what happened to bitcoin?"

"the creator decided to shut it down, so everyone who had money in bitcoin has lost everything"

other co-worker: "was it that old guy from california they recently discovered?"


me: "are you sure the entire bitcoin network was shut down? I thought this just happened to one of the exchanges?"

co-worker: "No pretty sure this affected everyone's bitcoins"

other co-worker: "I don't know why anyone would put money in bitcoin... unless you're into drugs"

(btw- they don't know I have any bitcoins)

I didn't feel like correcting them or anything so I just kept quite. Regardless I got scared as shit for a moment and I immediately came here to see if there were any new updates... but it looks like he was referring to the whole GOX fiasco.

Wow.. I just got a first hand taste of the common perception/mentality of bitcoin. What's worse is that these guys are highly technical, not your avg common folk. We got a long way to go fellas.
I am deeply offended that you did not correct them and actually believed that Bitcoin was shutdown, you can't shutdown a worldwide project.
1198  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we please stop saying that it is improbable to generate an inuse key? on: March 10, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
Facts and maths are great, but you never know do you!

That's why I've had my vanitygen running on the satoshi wallets since 2011.  
Lol @ vanitygen. I've written a much optimized version. With 30k addresses, it generates AND compares with 33 million keys per second on the CPU. Vanitygen is much slower.

Which for the purpose of this dubious scenario is like the guy with a bucket emptying the ocean laughing at the guy with a teaspoon trying to do the same thing. Smiley
Even so, my version is on the CPU and is therefore much efficient than a GPU which uses more watts. The key to this optimization is that I skip the base58 phase and use the RIPEMD160 hash and compare the bytes in a boolean expression. This way I also don't need to use PCRE ot strcmp. On my i5-4670k I do 33 million keys per second(which are compared to the list of 30k addresses) per thread.

The only downside is this method requires a list of keys in a file, they are supplied in base58 format and inside they are decoded back to their RIPEMD160 states.
1199  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can we please stop saying that it is improbable to generate an inuse key? on: March 10, 2014, 05:35:50 PM
Facts and maths are great, but you never know do you!

That's why I've had my vanitygen running on the satoshi wallets since 2011.  
Lol @ vanitygen. I've written a much optimized version. With 30k addresses, it generates AND compares with 33 million keys per second on the CPU. Vanitygen is much slower.
1200  Economy / Digital goods / [WTB] Left 4 Dead 2 steam key. (expired) on: March 10, 2014, 05:34:12 PM
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