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1181  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling be profitable in long term ? on: October 28, 2015, 03:55:16 PM
No one can be profitable for ever in gambling

I am right now profitable in my poker + sportsbook gambling. I may not be profitable forever but atleast right now im in profit. Some people can get profit if they know how to do it correctly

What does  it mean to be correct in betting or playing poker? There are rules that must be followed or strategies than make you win? How time have you in betting and sport gambling? How is the time in profit during all this time? Can you be fair in your answers?

Yes, I might not die today but I may die tomorrow. Therefore, I may win today and I might lose tomorrow. Hence, on the long run we will all be dead.

For sure that you will not die today. Why must do this? You are winner in gambling. And when someone is winner in gambling is in the sky. Not under the ground. The problem is when you are in loss.

But why you didn't answered to my questions? You may write what you want and me the same. But in this way everyone of us will be considered not normal from those who read our posts. For example I don't understand why your don't answer to my questions? Seems strange to me. You don't want to discover your secrets in gambling?
1182  Economy / Economics / Re: Paypal Banned Greece! on: October 28, 2015, 03:44:00 PM
Seems like many people are replying to this topic only by reading the title... Come one guys, put a little more effort into your posts and read about what you're posting. Paypal is no longer "blocking" Greece, this is an old post.

Important is to tell something.  Wink At all important what.  Cheesy Me first. Had more than one posts here.  Huh   Shocked
1183  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin surpassed $300 USD. on: October 28, 2015, 03:41:07 PM
Price of bitcoin hits $300 for the first time since July, i hope increase than more. At now appx. 303-304 USD.

It is not the first time this year. The problem is the trend. It will be something durable in time or only the usual up and down seen to many times this year. But for sure it is a good sign. It is not the low price which has dominate all this period in which bitcoin have been almost stable but the high. Good signs for the halving.
1184  Economy / Economics / Re: Investing in what porfo is good in the period of stagnation on: October 28, 2015, 03:35:20 PM
Hello everyone, I want to know if it is good to invest on what goods while there is stagnation in economy, for example is it good to invest on  real state, Gold, buying stocks...? Suppose stock market has been collapsing for 1 year and real state market prices stop and decreased. What decisions are considered intelligent decisions?

Real estate is really good when they are printing money.

The problem is that I dont know if when the bubble pops, the country will turn into communism and steal your land, or they will just confiscate everything. Hard to tell.

Best investment is always the one that you can control the most. So i`d go into the crypto world mostly.
Real state seems fine to me, bitcoin is better considering that it is risky you may get more income or less income!

Problem with real estate is that in a 3rd or 2nd world country they are cheap, but there is a lot of corruption and mishandling of archives.

I dont want to wake up and have problems with documentation, like I heard many stories that the land archives got lost or corrupted.


In a 1st world country they have better managed land registries, however land or estate is much more expensive there.

Real estate is not at all profitable in my country. It was profitable and a good source for profit until 7-8 years ago but now this market is over saturated and in almost all the areas are free lands in sale and buildings empty and numerous owners or builders who want to sell. During the last 7-8 years this market have seen only decrease of prices and decrease of demands for such products. The last two years, the real estate owners tell that the prices are almost stabilized but yet the demand is very low. Exception make only the places in downtown. This areas don't know crisis. But is hard to find something good there. No one sell. As for the corruption it is not possible to lie when you buy something. If do everything through agencies of real estate. But are true that the hypotheque here is a mess and it is not strange to find two or three owners for the same land or apartment.
1185  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Will the Banking Industry kill Bitcoin and keep the Blockchain? on: October 28, 2015, 03:16:51 PM
Reducing the fee with a fiat coin stable maybe can bring huge interest,if we users can pay the same bill and pay less why wouldnt we do that?Bitcoin will keep with their market and well the sucess of the crypto banks currency stable would be or not proven soon,as we know that we do almost all at our phones.

A reasoning voice in the chorus of those who a priory deny and don't accept other digital coin (for more fiat digital coin) except bitcoin. Maybe this post, read by them who want to read it, will made some of them to change mind about the possibility to use more than one coin if this could be convenient to everyone. Without "seeing" other lateral not important thing regarding the second coin. Obviously bitcoin will have always the first and the honored place between all the digital coins in circulation. But having friends (for sure) cannot make something bad to it.
1186  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] [HIGHEST PAY] COINUT.COM ★ Signature Campaign ★ Pay per post ★ Weekly ★ on: October 28, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
Izanagi it is something wrong with my number of posts this week. This week has began at 24 October. So in this week must be cunt all the posts made since this day. Until this moment 12:06:15 (forum time) I have made 77 posts counting those beginning 24 October (firs day of this week according to your Coinut Signature Enrollment List). If I add this amount to the beginning number of my posts for this week (which is 2324 according to your data in your Coinut Signature Enrollment List) the total number of my posts must be 2401. While it is only 2384. So are 17 posts that are not counted. That mean that the number of beginning of my posts in your list is wrong and must be 17 posts less that actual number (2324 - 17 = 2307).

According to your list the number of my posts until this moment for this week is 2384-2324 = 60 posts. But if you go at my profile and count my posts since 24 October, you will see that the first post which have as its date the 24 October has the number 77. So 77 posts in total made this week.

How is this? Can you explain this error?

Thanks!

Maybe I will continue to do posts and, in that case, the above figures will be not the same. But nothing will change. You can do yourself your calculations (to be sure about this fact) and will find that I am right.

You can find the first post made by me at 24 October and see its number. That is the number of my overall posts this week until that moment. Add this number to the number of the beginning posts for this week at your Coinut Signature Enrollment List and compare the amount which will be from this action to the overall number of posts made by me in my profile. You will see that the difference between the two figures will be 17. So the number in your Coinut Signature Enrollment List is 17 posts ahead compared to the real number of posts made by me this week. If it will be applied your beginning number (as it is in your Coinut Signature Enrollment List) for the count of the number of posts made from me this week the overall posts according to your data would be 60 when there are 77. So there are not all the posts made by me this week but 17 less.

Hope that, at least in this signature campaign, will have not problems (any kind of problem).

There will be at least one more post, which be this post, which is not counted above.
1187  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 28, 2015, 09:39:44 AM
If there's a central controller of bitcoin, people will think someone is manipulating them when the price of bitcoin jumps. With a decentralized format, noone controls, and noone can manipulate.

Thanks for the comment.

Your answer have nothing to do with the words written at the main post. Please read it again (if you want) and give an answer to that post. This post ask abut something totally other and don't talk at all about the centralization of bitcoin.
1188  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 28, 2015, 09:36:44 AM
If it is centralized, then those important things in its production can be changed. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin means that every node will make sure that every block follows the rules and don't change the rules of production. But if it is centralized, then that means that some central authority sets the rules and tells everyone else what the rules are, even if they don't like the rules. With decentralization, if I don't like the rules, I can change them or go with the old ones. With centralization, someones says "these are the rules and that's that" and no one else can change that. So that means that the central authority can change the rules at their own whim and everyone that uses their coin has to follow.

Thanks for the comment.

I agree with you that this might be possible. I have a question for you. Is this situation you mentioned in your comment possible for bitcoin? If the answer can be yes and bitcoin can be manipulated you will not have more faith in it. You have faith in it because you are sure that it CANNOT be manipulated. I am asking for this kind of coin. That CANNOT be manipulated. That's why I write in my main post: "This kind of coin, like bitcoin, is protected from the manipulation (from everyone and everything) from the technology which will produce it. In other words, no one can change its production (amount, time between amounts, its flow in the market). So no one can change these essential things that can make possible its manipulation."

Do you have to make any comments having in mind THIS kind of digital coin? Why this KIND of digital coin must not have the same status as bitcoin?
In my mind, a centralized coin is one where the miners are owned by one entity, the software is developed by that same entity, and the software is closed source. In this way, should that entity decide to change the rules, they release an update, send an alert informing all users that they need to upgrade. Since the software is closed source, they can pull the old binaries and then no one can downgrade unless they saved an old version. Even using an old version would block them from the rest of the network, so those on old versions can no longer do anything. Also since it is closed source, no one (except the entity) can know what exactly goes into the mining algorithm, so that people outside cannot mine. Or they are like some PoS coins where blocks are only valid if they are signed by a select group of people. This makes it so that the users of that coin have no say about anything regarding the coin, and thus people (here) don't like it.

Good but we are at the same point like before.  Cheesy I am asking about another kind of creation of the digital coin not like you mention in your second post. The not possible manipulated one. It is for that that I need your opinion. IF this kind of coin exist AND IS CENTRALIZED (from an technology that CANNOT be manipulated) what it will be your behavior? So, forget for the moment your meaning in your mind for the centralized coin and imagine this one given by me. You will like and accept it like bitcoin?
Such a coin cannot exist. A clone of bitcoin, by nature, is decentralized. Even with centralized development of a bitcoin clone, it isn't centralized. People can clone the software and essentially fork that coin away from the centralized developers, so it isn't centralized. You need to define what makes that coin centralized.

Let's tell that you are wrights for the first part in bold. I don't want to discuss about this your conviction because it is not interesting for the aim of this thread.

As for the second part in bold I am talking about a digital coin created after the study of the bitcoin and the blockchain. This new digital coin, that should be based at the best characteristics of the lasts ones, should be based on the peer to peer technology, should have the same qualities or even more better ones than bitcoin will be produced only in one point or several ones (can be to many) all owned by one person, a group of peoples or an Central Bank. That are the investors for every step mentioned above and for every point where this coin will be produced. And naturally, even its owners.
1189  Economy / Economics / Re: IBM working with US Federal banks to develop digital currency on: October 28, 2015, 09:19:51 AM
OK... the government don't love bitcoin but how it works? Under any circumstances, a digital currency created by goverment or any organization, coorperation will be monitored somehow. This will make digital lose its decentralization. No way I gonna support it

What do you mean you with "support"? To not use those?

If yes, I have some questions for you. Do you use other money in your life? Do your use credit or debit card in you life? For sure yes. If not you cannot live. Those are essential part of life for everyone of us. Why you use those if they are monitored by the Government?

Then if the new coin (if it will be created because until now everything that is sure is that "are only words") will be used in the same way like your national currency used actually in your country and will have the same status like it, why you will use the second and not the first? Both are equally monitored by your Government. If the digital coin will be much more convenient in its use (compared to the other currency) and you will not use it who will have "damages" in this case: you or your Government?
1190  Economy / Economics / Re: The Halving - Good or Bad for Bitcoin? on: October 28, 2015, 09:05:45 AM
The halving is a necessary part of bitcoin, and without it, bitcoin wouldn't be where it was now in the first place.
so obviously good.

Why is necessary? I'm not an expert in this field (in mining or programming) but I think that halving it is only an option that could be not so if the program could have been written otherwise. Nothing will change in bitcoin if the mining of all the amount of bitcoins would have been in much less time than in other about 120 years. No one quality of bitcoin would be different (compared to the actual one) if, for example all the bitcoins would be in the market within the next 20 years (without any halving in years). Maybe this would have affected the price of it but not any other its quality as currency.
1191  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin is Becoming a Global Currency on: October 28, 2015, 08:50:43 AM
Governments take the fees from fiat from everything,as i know there isnt any market that allow you to pay with bitcoins,if that happens they must say they had reveived x ammount of bitcoins to avoid being punished to not share those information.At some countries bitcois holders are taxed already,countries cant do nothing against bitcoin ,they can accept it and put a fee inside it ,otherwise they wont take control since who hold bitcoin is us community and big farmers.

I don't know what do you mean with "market" but if with market you mean various markets of products I can tell that for example Microsft accept bitcoin as a payment option for a variety of digital content across its online platforms. If you want to lean more can read here: http://www.coindesk.com/microsoft-adds-bitcoin-payments-xbox-games-mobile-content/.

Then, even Dell accepts bitcoin for its products. If you want to learn more read here: http://www.businessinsider.com/dell-becomes-biggest-company-to-accept-bitcoin-internationally-2015-2, or/and here: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/news/11425250/Britons-can-now-buy-Dell-computers-with-Bitcoin.html.

There are to many other merchants in various markets of products which accept bitcoin and day after day the number of those  is in big increase.
1192  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Everything Bullish Thread (Bullish Media Center) on: October 27, 2015, 04:22:53 PM
Why ?

Gambling industry helps Bitcoin a lot.

The gambling industry is only a sophisticate factory of disease and addiction from the bad Fakhoury. Bitcoin will has, have and will not need from this kind of evil. It is a little better than the dark market only because is legal. It will be the same with it if it will be illegal. You can tell even that the dark web is good for bitcoin because about 80%-90% of the demand for bitcoin come from this sh.. world. And this maybe maintain high the price of bitcoin. But this don't do other thing than leaving away of bitcoin all the good demand or impede the creation and the increase of this last.

I know that you don't agree with me. No need to confirm again this. But I cannot write something about gambling when I remember one my close cousin who, with him's stupidity and "strategies", lose so much money in gambling, that even today (after 10 years) has debt to pay. To not tell that put in risk even its family. But not was a his problem. Naturally he has his part. The real problem is gambling. He was unable to resist at the gambling addiction. But was him's fault that he is born weak and not able to control himself? The DNA he have is the DNA given by its parent and not chosen by him. This DNA condition everyone's behavior. How many are like him? Why not protect those? Or better, why leave the "foxes" and the "wolves" to have profit from them? Because this make good to bitcoin? Make no sense as for me.

I agree and disagree with you.

I agree that gambling is bad and could cause a lot of troubles.

I don't disagree that we un-relate gambling industry with bitcoin, because no one on earth can stop this.

What matters in the end is, the bullish shiny side.

I do feel what you say my dear friend, I'm too emotional as a person, but why shall I do towards "emotionally weak" people ? Should we be punished because of their weakness.

No. Have no reason to be punished us. But we can make something to protect those. At least writing about this problem and tell the truth about gambling. Don't make publicity to it even this can help bitcoin. The human kind become before bitcoin. It is not only my close cousin which had this problem. There are other thousands. Maybe reading the bad that gambling do, this can serve as help for them to stay away from this gangrene.

We must not forget that being weak is not their fault. Never. It is something that has to do with their genes. So they need protection and not leaving in their own.
1193  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 27, 2015, 04:11:12 PM
Then why hate the centralized bitcoin (if this could possible)? Nothing will change. Nothing cannot be manipulated on it (as I know).

Because a more centralised bitcoin increases the risk of control/shutdown/manipulation by a single authority. Transactions can be reversed and address blocked if a single authority controls a majority for the hashrate.

human nature is ambitious and vain, always want more and more, if this were not so, there should not be any problem on a centralized one, but this is not the case, that's why i quote that answer, because i really think is the main reason, we should fix "our own problems", before think that everything is good, posible and normal.

Thanks for the comment.

Totally agree with you. But if it will be not the human kind who will own the new (even better) "bitcoin" but the State (the Central Bank of the given country) itself what it will be your answer? The Central Bank of one country has very severe rules in the overall process of the creation and management of its money. At least administrative ones. Which cannot leave anyone to abuse even a little with everything which has to do with the money owned by it.

Accepting here (thing that is not accepted in the main post, but let's do an exception in this case) that the human kind is be able to manipulate the technology of production or other factors not allowed in the main post.

I had the answer of medUSA about this case. Now I want to understand if you will be fair in your answer or not. At least will be coherent as him in arguing your decisions and choices. Like you do in your post above. Wink

You never know what goes behind closed doors, which is why we need open source on everything. What we know is, corruption with public money is everywhere. Ben Bernakle can generate more money at will, the money supply is a joke, hyperinflation is destroying currencies world wide, trust in dollar is lost yearly. The model is flawed within itself. It's not really about central banks of specific countries, but big groups of countries, the big market movers... a president of a country can't do really nothing, he is subject to orders. See Greece, and coming soon Italy, Spain.. they are all subjected to superiors. It's a big pyramidal scheme. With Bitcoin no one has a clear power over the other, it's just a protocol that transfers value... this has never seen before ever in mankind, that is why it's a very hard pill to swallow.

Thanks for your comment.

I see a big rage in your words that prove the truth of one of my posts make here in this thread. I will suffice only with few words because I don't want to give moral to anyone. It is not this the aim of this thread. I don't see the world in such way. There are problems but the problems there were, there are and there will be always. This cannot make me fatalist or even nihilistic like I think it is your case.

I would like that you read the main post and give an answer to that case expressed there. It will be a pleasure for me to give you my thoughts after your answer to that case (if I will have to tell something).

As about the case of Greece (even this out the aim of this thread) this is not a problem only of the Governments of Greece but to all the people. I have made a comment in another thread about this case. It is not complete because there are to many other things than can be told but is enough to understand all the story of the last crisis there. If you like and if you want you can read it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1210132.msg12727759#msg12727759
1194  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 27, 2015, 03:57:47 PM
OP nobody is hating on possible centralized coins! We are just saying that this won't work and that they are wasting time, both governments and banks. At great end, we will all get to the point that people all over the world will just use decentralized solutions like Bitcoin.

Now it's their thing that they maybe see this as the only possible solution in order to not lose the complete control that they would lose if they would adopt decentralized solution.

So no, I don't hate on anybody. If nothing, these centralized solutions will prepare the population all over the world for the digital age. They will lay the infrastructure for us and instead of us.

Thanks for the comment.

You are saying that I am telling lies? Please read some of the posts in this thread.

Maybe you prefer "don't love", "are unsatisfied", "don't like", "don't prefer", "don't want", "fight", want to eliminate", "want to avoid", "want to not exist", "is a nightmare".

Are to many the other similar words that I don't remember and are to many to be used in a post. And all those, told with one only word, are "hate".



I don't think too many people hate them. People just don't understand why they need to reinvent the wheel when there is already a technology that works and in our opinion works better and it's more sustainable long-term than what they will create.

Also I can understand where the disliking is coming from some of the people on this forum. If someone don't like you than most probably you won't like him back. It's just how it goes in life.

I personally don't hate anybody and I even think that they are doing us a favor long-term by laying infrastructure instead of us and teaching people how to send transactions and use wallets instead of us.

Good. This kind of answer have meaning for me.

I have to tell only something about your bolded thoughts. If the human kind would be satisfied with the existing inventions we shall be yet in the time of the wheel mentioned by you. In other words if we will be happy with something we have and a priory will reject any other new thing without analyze that, at least, bitcoin would be yet only in the white paper of Satoshi, we will write everything only with or hands and go at work only walking. This only for the theory.

As for my post I asked about something I know they hate (from numerous posts read by me and various expressions written in to many ways but that in essence can be named as "hate") and not only for the coin. The users of this forum don't hate the new coin but the centralized one. I asked about the centralization and then for the coin. They connect the centralization (maybe have right) with the abuse, the corruption, the manipulation, the injustice and other unpleasant things had from the governments or various authorities in their countries. At least this is my guess. This their big problem are spreed even in the kind of coin they love. Not without reason I write clear and without any equivoque THE SECURITY OF PRODUCTION of this coin and not without reason give to this coin the same qualities like bitcoin. The only difference is being centralized the first and decentralized the second.

Normally if they like bitcoin have no reason to not love the second one. Who cares if have owner or not. If it is the same product and nothing change from bitcoin why not like it like bitcoin? Make no sense. The only reasonable answer TO MY POST must be: If are the same thing normally I would like it. Maybe (or for sure) bitcoin a little more because I am affectionated to it (and will give to it more support always because of this) but I would like and use even the second one because have the same qualities. Are the qualities which make the people like bitcoin. Cannot dislike the same qualities have from another product clone of bitcoin. Repeat: have no sense.

But almost no one has answered to my post. Or only partially. Everyone has answered to his post: the post in him's mind. Giving and making free interpretations connected with their hypothetical coin (or its production, or their conception of centralization) in their mind.

This is a big problem. If I want to know something I have not the answer of that I write but the answer of that the poster has in his mind about that something that I have write. This is really a big problem.



Exactly, specially this part:

Quote
People just don't understand why they need to reinvent the wheel when there is already a technology that works and in our opinion works better and it's more sustainable long-term than what they will create.

Reminds me of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lskpNmUl8yQ

When Letterman goes like "Oh but we have Radio, why would anyone need Radio over the internet".
People is so stupid and not prone to predict big technological shifts, that's why there will always be elites and that's why there will always be people crying that they aren't millionaires. "They don't deserve all that money". Well, if you predicted that this thing would be insanely valuable in the future instead of bashing it, you would be rich too, but you are a sheep. What's what they don't seem to understand.

Thanks for intervention.  Cheesy

First of all I'm so sorry but I cannot understand the spoken English. I'm able to communicate in English only writing. So cannot taste the video. But are enough your words to understand what the video can tell. No need to give other answer about my post. I thank you again for your comments. Feel free to comment everything in this thread or other my threads (including and firstly my thoughts). I will be happy to read what you will write. And probably to answer to you (if I will have something to tell).

1195  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 27, 2015, 03:44:49 PM
Thanks for the comment.

you are welcome, is a pleasure for me to give you my reply.


But if it will be not the human kind who will own the new (even better) "bitcoin" but the State (the Central Bank of the given country) itself what it will be your answer?

but here you got the problem again, banks controlled by humans... in the end you will have the same problem. who believe on banks for example? do you really think that they will not create rules who benefits them?

well you can think that people can decide if the "new" rules from banks are fair or not in this case, but just look at how it works now, everybody know that fiat money is the big ponzi scheme out there and we still using it...

that's the main problem, people are so chastened about corruption that they don't believe on anything.

how can we solved it? i mean, how people can start to realize that a centralized one is not bad?

hard to say,but maybe if they didn't get any benefit and be 100% transparent about it, maybe then, people would start to believe on it, for example...



I had the answer of medUSA about this case. Now I want to understand if you will be fair in your answer or not. At least will be coherent as him in arguing your decisions and choices. Like you do in your post above. Wink

i hope that my new reply satisfy you now Wink

You are not the only. Are almost all they who make posts in this thread or everywhere in bitcointalk (even out of this forum) and are convinced that everything is wrong, manipulated, bad or near the end.

To tell the right I am not one of the above. I have to many reserves about to many things but being fatalist is something that do bad only to the person who believe this. You ask if I believe in the banks. Yes, I believe. I am very satisfy with my bank even are to many things that can be better. But this don't made me to tell that everything on it is bad.

You tell that banks make the rules as they want.

First you must know that the rules (the important ones) of the commercial banks (that's the name of banks mentioned by you) are made by the Central Banks (which have not any interest in any of the commercial banks) which not only make these, but even, and above all, control their application continuously (is one the main duty of the Central Banks to do rules and to control the correct application of those in every commercial banks).

Second do you have any idea what kind of mess and crisis can have a country if the banks have the behavior you mentioned in your post? Do you have any idea of the real anarchy and chaos will cause their supposed by you behavior in all the country? Do you know that even if it will be only partially like you mention in your post EVERY STATE in the world will bankrupt within 24 hours?

The commercial banks work with money and from money their have money. So it is natural that they think for themselves first. Like you do when you do something that can make profit for you. Even this is normal. But to pretend that the banks make the rules like they want (if made by these) this cannot be never true. Because at least will be punished by the market. The concurrence from the others banks ar the customers. I will stop here for this problem because it is not this the aim of this thread.

I had your answer about my previous post and I want to turn back to the aim of this thread. Please read the main post and answer to this post. Remember: The human manipulation in the case given at the main post is excluded. So, in other words, the human being can do nothing, even if will have this desire. It is the technology which rule and this technology cannot be manipulated.

If you want, I have the curiosity to have your answer to the main post.  
1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Everything Bullish Thread (Bullish Media Center) on: October 27, 2015, 03:04:37 PM

The gambling industry is only a sophisticate factory of disease and addiction from the bad Fakhoury. Bitcoin will has, have and will not need from this kind of evil. It is a little better than the dark market only because is legal. It will be the same with it if it will be illegal. You can tell even that the dark web is good for bitcoin because about 80%-90% of the demand for bitcoin come from this sh.. world. And this maybe maintain high the price of bitcoin. But this don't do other thing than leaving away of bitcoin all the good demand or impede the creation and the increase of this last.

I know that you don't agree with me. No need to confirm again this. But I cannot write something about gambling when I remember one my close cousin who, with him's stupidity and "strategies", lose so much money in gambling, that even today (after 10 years) has debt to pay. To not tell that put in risk even its family. But not was a his problem. Naturally he has his part. The real problem is gambling. He was unable to resist at the gambling addiction. But was him's fault that he is born weak and not able to control himself? The DNA he have is the DNA given by its parent and not chosen by him. This DNA condition everyone's behavior. How many are like him? Why not protect those? Or better, why leave the "foxes" and the "wolves" to have profit from them? Because this make good to bitcoin? Make no sense as for me.
1197  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: October 27, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
nothing is wrong in this world, it is upto you how you approach and perform, gambling in casinos and dice games are clearly known that no one can win with the house. out of 100% only 10% wins because they just play for some time and after winning they leave this site or game and go for another site or game. but for long term they lose everything even their savings.

How is this? Nothing is wrong? And the killers of innocent people? How about the politicians which exploiting their positions and the trust given from the simple people to become rich stealing money everywhere and where they can? How about the thieves which take everything earned with the sweat and effort, sometimes even killing the people who steal.

As about the gambling your position is the position of someone indifferent related to the problems that cause bad thing. It is not so simple like you write. Gambling is not a simple game but an evil one. Attract with the fun and the hope to win when everything is calculated to create addiction from it and loss of money. The hope to win make everyone greedy and every win will go again in the pockets of the owners of the gamble owner. As has told someone here in bitcointalk in his post. The casino know that every winner will come back again in casino to win again. And that's the end for him. He will lose all the money won and even all the other ones have in him's pockets.
1198  Economy / Economics / Re: It's ok to love the decentralized bitcoin but why hate the centralized one? on: October 27, 2015, 01:31:51 PM
Then why hate the centralized bitcoin (if this could possible)? Nothing will change. Nothing cannot be manipulated on it (as I know).

Because a more centralised bitcoin increases the risk of control/shutdown/manipulation by a single authority. Transactions can be reversed and address blocked if a single authority controls a majority for the hashrate.

human nature is ambitious and vain, always want more and more, if this were not so, there should not be any problem on a centralized one, but this is not the case, that's why i quote that answer, because i really think is the main reason, we should fix "our own problems", before think that everything is good, posible and normal.

Thanks for the comment.

Totally agree with you. But if it will be not the human kind who will own the new (even better) "bitcoin" but the State (the Central Bank of the given country) itself what it will be your answer? The Central Bank of one country has very severe rules in the overall process of the creation and management of its money. At least administrative ones. Which cannot leave anyone to abuse even a little with everything which has to do with the money owned by it.

Accepting here (thing that is not accepted in the main post, but let's do an exception in this case) that the human kind is be able to manipulate the technology of production or other factors not allowed in the main post.

I had the answer of medUSA about this case. Now I want to understand if you will be fair in your answer or not. At least will be coherent as him in arguing your decisions and choices. Like you do in your post above. Wink
1199  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How much can you earn with gambling? on: October 27, 2015, 01:13:04 PM
you can earn a lot with gambling though of course it depends on how much are you willing to gamble the more you risk to loose the more you win

How much have your earned gambling? I bet that your earnings are the loss of all the money given to you for dressing, eating with your friends and your girl/boyfriend, for books, for seeing movie and for pleasures that I don't know what must be.

Or you wanted to do a post and spare the first thing you have in mind. Maybe something transgressive to be trendy and cool. Gambling is something that only the most courageous do. the others, they who don't like it or want to spent money in and with the normal things don't deserve attention and are not important.

Wake up boy/girl/whatever you are. Gambling give nothing. Or better, give disease, as well as secure lost of all your money. Nothing else. All the occasionally winners go again to gamble to earn and leave everything. Even the last penny.
1200  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: October 27, 2015, 01:03:41 PM
WOrk hard and don't expect too much. Believe and follow your dreams. When you work very hard and you have belief in yourself
you can achieve whatever you want, sky is the limit and one day the world will look upto you once you succeed, remember rome was not build in a day.

i like it Smiley
sometimes i get hopeless, and lose my dream, because i try hardworking but my earning still not enough to life
but i trust if i believe and follow my dream, one day i can achieve whatever you want


Not only the part bolded by you Proxiebuier but all the post of Miracal is very significant and give hope. But unfortunately these beauty words serve only to give hope and not to surrender. I tell always such kind of phrases to make myself and who read those (if liked by them) feeling better. But my life show that most of the cases this is even its limit. Are to many other factors which must be fulfilled that someone achieve what he/she want. As for the sky, this is limit only in the movie.  Cheesy

I don't want to play the role of killjoy. I don't want to tell only that if sometimes your dreams are big and you don't achieve those, the fall can be dangerous and can hurt you so much. So better will less emphases and down to earth than fly in the sky and fall from that altitude. Can go very bad in the second case.

Believe me. It was only a my thought this post. Ignore it if make you feel bad.  Wink
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