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1181  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 11, 2013, 08:02:19 PM
Everyone having fun? Cheesy

1182  Economy / Speculation / Re: Gold collapsing. Bitcoin UP. on: February 11, 2013, 07:25:48 PM

Half of that will evaporate (be pulled, not bought) as we get closer as well
1183  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: How much does the german government know/monitor? on: February 11, 2013, 07:18:00 PM
Germany have laws for barter currencies, they can in certain circumstances be considered a taxable valuable asset.

If you are mining and just selling your bitcoins, you have to pay VAT, or in German, steuer.

All this was discussed based on an answer to a German business from some Bundes tax office last fall.

I'm not German, so I didn't pay much attention, but you can ask this question in English in the german thread here on bitcointalk.

Germans are cool, You'll love staying there.

Yeah, germans are cool - I married one!

I actually dont mine, I just bought awhile back and now have this fantastic problem. I assume its probably taxed the same way as investments, but I wonder if that is like regular income here (if so, eep...).

Do you have a link to that thread by chance? I looked for it and only found threads with bundes in them that were in german.
1184  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: How much does the german government know/monitor? on: February 11, 2013, 07:10:49 PM
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Does the german government automatically monitor/ account for wire transfers from foreign banks (ie bitstamp/mtgox, etc) to german accounts?
No, the german government does not monitor, exept they have a person under investigation because of suspicion of crime.
There are laws against money laundering that make the banks report money transfers over certain limits to the customs or the tax offices.
The daily limit triggering a bank to report is 15000 EUR. Then the bank client has to declare.

For example cash money in your pockets at the airport has to be declared up from 10000 EUR.

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Do you have to disclose your bitcoin holdings to the government? If not, to what extent should one be worried about the government monitoring fiat that appears "out of thin air"?
No, as of today. The bitcoin currency is not yet in perception by law and government.
So if over the limit of 15000 EUR in one sum to the recieving bank account, the receiver can declare to have a trade with one of the mentioned ecurrency trade markets, the sum as a result of a contract between the client and the trade market.

If the deals get too huge, you really better buy yourself an island in the caribbean for example.

Great, thanks.
1185  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / Re: How much does the german government know/monitor? on: February 11, 2013, 07:09:19 PM
Where do you live right now? I might be able to cash you out with cash money!;)

You should use bitcoin-24 to sell your coins. They transfer the money via bankwire from a european bank account, and they dont want 0,6% fees!


Thanks - I'm actually not looking to sell now heh, just wondering what the landscape looks like in my new home =)
1186  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 11, 2013, 05:40:33 PM
It seems there is a repeating pattern:

1. Resistance for 4-7 days
2. Going up for 2-4 days
3. Last resistance becoming new support

Now we meet another resistance at $24. If the pattern holds, we will not reach $25 before Wednesday and we may test the $21 support before that



Good job. Though somehow I think it is unlikely we will see 21 before we see 26.
1187  Local / Anfänger und Hilfe / How much does the german government know/monitor? on: February 11, 2013, 05:37:02 PM
Hallo Alles

Apologies for the english in the german forum, but I have just moved to germany and my german is pathetic at the moment. I am unsure about the legalities of bitcoin & asset transfer here and am looking for enlightenment from those in the know.

Specifically my questions are:

-- Does the german government automatically monitor/ account for wire transfers from foreign banks (ie bitstamp/mtgox, etc) to german accounts? If so, is there a threshold one has to meet in terms of euros or # of transfers before this occurs?

-- Do you have to disclose your bitcoin holdings to the government? If not, to what extent should one be worried about the government monitoring fiat that appears "out of thin air"?

Danke fur ihre hilfe
1188  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 10, 2013, 04:23:00 PM

lol
1189  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 10, 2013, 02:00:52 PM
I'm going to lose it if we get over 24 on a sunday.  Shocked
1190  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SDICE Passthru on: February 10, 2013, 01:58:14 PM
Can someone explain why people on Havelock are willing to pay 5-10% more than on BTCTC, MPEX and BitFunder?
It is not that Havelock is more trustworthy or has more other investment opportunities. So why use Havelock and pay more than on any other exchange?

The site is well built & its run by a reputable person. This alone is easily worth 10% over say bitfined or mpex. I dont know about btctc however.

If MPEX turns out to be a scam (which it isn't) Havelock will be affected since there's a direct link between Havelock and MPEX S.Dice shares.

Yeah - I thought it was obvious why people dont use MPEX. 30 coins just for the privilege of using that POS? Yeah, no thanks.
1191  Economy / Securities / Re: [HAVELOCK] SDICE Passthru on: February 10, 2013, 01:49:50 PM
Can someone explain why people on Havelock are willing to pay 5-10% more than on BTCTC, MPEX and BitFunder?
It is not that Havelock is more trustworthy or has more other investment opportunities. So why use Havelock and pay more than on any other exchange?

The site is well built & its run by a reputable person. This alone is easily worth 10% over say bitfined or mpex. I dont know about btctc however.
1192  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 09, 2013, 06:10:18 PM
FFS, where is all this money coming from?

Printing press?

post of the week lol
1193  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 08, 2013, 09:52:34 PM
Hint:  It's time to sell.

And this was another great oldie brought to you from waaaaay back at $15. Thanks for listening to No Longer Relevant Radio. We bring you all the great bear hits 24/7!



You have outdone yourself, sir
1194  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 08, 2013, 05:41:39 AM
i'm thinking about buying all in....
Where did all the bears go?


Hes just trying to get someone to buy his sell before the weekend.
1195  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 08, 2013, 02:33:31 AM
For better or worse, this is me as soon as I realize Lucif et al had to have received their margin calls

1196  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 07, 2013, 06:24:08 PM
Ltc coin is going to start eating into btc soon. The demand for btc is extremely limited most of the buyers are speculators, people will abandon bitcoin for something more friendly, accessible, less anonymous and more transparent. I love bitcoin I think it is the biggest idea of our lives but nothing doubles in 90 days. I say the more competitor coins the better. 22 is a bull shit price to high to fast.
    

1197  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 07, 2013, 06:21:37 PM
This 5k dumps are a reliable thing  Grin

Congratulations lol
1198  Economy / Speculation / Re: I've figured out the bitcoin market on: February 07, 2013, 06:18:49 PM
Just sold my remains. If my analysis is correct, we should be doing >$22 today! Congrats everyone.

Thank you!  Please let us know when you are buying back in ....    Wink

lol
1199  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: February 07, 2013, 06:17:21 PM
In my eyes thats a really big spread. Even with 0.5% fee that trade would be successful. Do I miss something? This happens quite often, yesterday the EUR was ahead (16€ was touched when USD was at 20$-20.27$). Any idea on how to use this gaps?



You need to have btc & fiat in both places, so that when the opportunity arises you can take advantage of it. I would be doing this except I just dont trust the other exchanges' security enough to make the benefit/risk worth it.
1200  Economy / Speculation / Re: [poll] - The U.S. Dollar Collapse Is Accelerating on: February 07, 2013, 05:52:48 PM
Collapse relative to what?

To bitcoin? Obviously
To physical gold/ silver? Eventually, maybe 5-20 years from now
To other fiat currencies? Nope. It is a full on currency war right now with nations racing to the bottom (to avoid their debt responsibilities). So I don't think we will see any "collapse" of a single fiat currency relative to what our imaginations conjure when considering the word collapse.
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