i dont even know what you are trying to rebutt

the worldometer is based on numbers as of now.
yep now

you keep trying to make it about an old report in february of a fixed dataset

the worldometer data changes per day based on results received daily of those recoverd vs those dead

so
1. its not based on the ccdc report thats of just the ~44k cases you think its about thats old data from february
2. its not based on all actively sick/active cases vs death. .. its recovered vs death thus more accurate
3. its chart is of the worldometer chart.

also. your trying to state that the death rate is ~3%... but thats based on all cases open&closed vs death
your stats are skewed because some of those still sick are neither dead nor recovered. but skewing the numbers to make it look like its only  ~3% risk vs a more accurate <6%

sorry but i will stick to results that atleast seem to be more uptodate and not skewed.

anyway. you been trying to rebut this so long that the results are in that the death rate has now declined below 6%.
(above 5.. not below 3 which you seem to think)
so take that as a hint that you have been beating a busted drum for too long. move on

if you look at the chart. its all about the worldometer
here is the friggen link
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

by the way. its not based on current active cases of people currently sick
there was an explanation that if it was then the numbers would be misleading
so if you kept reading the page it says

CFR = deaths / (deaths + recovered)

not
CFR = deaths / (deaths + currently sick)
nor
CFR = deaths / (deaths + currently sick +recovered)


here:

NOPE
its 94% recovered/discharged 6% death
its not 94% still sick 6% dead

the main causes of spread have been

patients in hospital spreading to other patients

elderly peoples homes/retirement villages
they are told to stay in and pretty much turn the retirement home (old peoples hotel basically) into an incubator/Petri dish for viruses. and when they get it. the nurses who sometimes do remote care also. then spread it from place to place

home care social/care workers
usually these care workers spend half-hour/hour in upto 8-10 peoples homes a day. these people needing care at home are at risk and although they themselves dont go out. its the care workers that go place to place that bring it into the homes

however your just walking around town and your worried about getting it from licking a retail shop window. just stop licking windows. you shouldnt be doing it anyway

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i think you posted it for a bit of satire. seeing as the writer is still not even 100% convinced the earth is curved.
as for over using occums razor.. come on its common knowledge dont share needles or razors. the over use of random people using occums razor has caused many myths to go viral.
especially in the linked example where he tries to make it sound obsurd that it came from a fish market. by tweaking the details.
by making long sentances about fact. and then a short fiction. then saying occums razors = short version true. doesnt make it true

again.. im not even sure why you are tryig to rebuttal it
the shenyang example clearly shows lots of greys and only a couple greens
which i said and then you rebuttaled to weirdly agree is lots of random planes and only a couple of departures
but make it sound like there wasn't. (strange)

then you said wuhan had no departures. but then showed a list of departures and arrivals and there being some 15-30minute intervals..
thats exactly what i said there were arrivals and departures still happening with 15-30minute intervals

you just proved my case.
move on already.

stop trying to make the flu sound like an apocalypse zombie doomsday story.
its the flu

what your not realising is most people are not under hazmat protocol marshal law curfew. instead its self imposted fear which is making less people want to travel.
here ask yourself a question
if there was a true quarantine hazmat curfew lockdown.. then how come cruiseships and tourists be able to take the virus out of wuhan...

wait. could it be because the roads, rail and airlines took them
but wait how can that be so
because airlines and roads DIDNT have hazmat swat teams with sniper rifles and barbed wire and other silly things i heard people think when talking about the "quarantine"


lets word it another way.
in america there has been 445 people believed they might have it (out of 320m) and only 14 out of the 445 had it
basically even if you have a sore throat or been around chinese people there is 5% you'll get it

yet american media are trying to make it sound like the walking dead series.
so just calm down

oh by the way.
at the peak of a ~4000 a day new diagnoses in china.. its now down to only a couple hundred.
so really do calm down.. because the actual chinese seemed to have

my point was. if mcdonalds was in trouble. the downstairs would be quiet for you not to need to go upstairs.
i can kinda understand your extra awareness of CV due to you being 78 thus naturally at higher risk than say a person under 50yo. but just dont let the fear overwhelm you
truckstop meals and bacon/egg muffins mixed with stress can play on the heart more than CV can play on the table

twitchy:
just checking the first couple lines of your 'source'... reuters. cnn.. hmm seems more like western media to me
anyway
time of posting i checked again the tracking sites


oh look i see planes
oh look i see departure listings
oh look i see no cancelations

as for comparing it to another city view. the funny thing that you done though was reveal the green planes which were the only planes related to that area.
the other planes were just random planes
in my town we dont have airports for 50 miles. yet i look into the sky and see jetstreams and planes regular.. same goes for your comparative image of shenyang

but yea goodluck saying that no planes are leaving wuhan just because wiki via cnn told you

here is a little hint to you
dont believe anything from western media about the january 25th-> fortnight.

why go upstairs?
come on. i visit mcdonalds now and again and for decades of adult memories in the town i go to, the upstairs is near vacant unless its for a kids party or a group
also
6am-9am.. most are still asleep. ofcourse its not going to be crowded at that time or at the upper floor.
but kind of funny why you specifically went upstairs.. either your trying to sway the narrative that mcdonalds is empty by you avoiding the restaurant area on purpose.
or
your just not like regular people who dont get up at 6am to just eat mdconalds for 3 hours
or
its extra busy downstairs meaning you had to go upstairs to gets some space/quiet time

anyway.
out of 11m wuhan population far less than 80k infected and far less than [of those infected] 5% died
overall wuhan population risk of death is something like 0.2%.. and thats the epicentre of the flu

not even a 1% chance of getting it. and if you do you got a good chance of being fine
basically everyone will get the flu at sometime in their life. sometimes people get it every year.
...
now on a serious note
the spread of corona wont affect business
the spread of mis-imformation and selective narratives will affect businesses

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last note
with you(kuffy) at a truck stop the other day and now mcdonalds this morning.
you should worry about the fats and calories more than the flu

any way. ofcourse you can have personal contacts in china. you can also visit it.. or
there are many sources
flight tracker websites
live webcams

by the way. check the dates of chinas new year festival..
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cant believe you tried to quite wiki as source.
whats next.. will you think CSW is satoshi if wiki tells you so??

wuhan(china) was not in lockdown

western media thought that because shops were shut and stuff it was a quarantine. but it was the standard january new year festival.

shops opening the same day as the end of the festival was not just a coincidence. it was not about corona. it was just the festival end
airplanes still departed from wuhans airport every 15-30minutes

the only people at risk of severe pneumonia/death were the elderly and those with already weakened immune systems
china responded quickly. they created a couple hospitals specifically for those with the flu to keep them separate from normal patients in normal hospitals that had weakened immune systems

wuhan itself has a total population of 11m
yet world wide not even 100k people have it.

put it this way if everyone in the world that has had corona was told to go to wuhan to truly quarantine it.
the stats would be
1% of wuhan total population got the flu and of that 4% of those affected die
in short 0.04% death rate
(numbers are lower because there is no marshal law quarantine)

again if your under 50yo your chances of infected is 0.2% and if over 80yo 14%

what you will find is that certain area's of wuhan like normal hospitals and retirement villages have special protocols. to take extra care. but to try imagining the situation in china as a city wide marshal law lockdown is a big exaggeration

yep. even the public service buses are still running.
yep cargo ships still running
yep cars still using the road
yep people still walking around
yep the bridges still letting people to cross
yep airports still departing

im glad you finally see my point by your own admissions. that even after a dozen years. all you managed to achieve was to be a guest on a space research pod that was not an actual 'seasteading/bluewater/oceanbuilder' project
(remember you yourself denounced association with its funding/designing/involvement)

so im glad your finally realising your lack of results even after all them investment campaigns and world wide conference tours

badecker. your the one in the dark
i go places. i do my research. i invest. and i do things.
just take a look at elwars supposed successes
day one im living free on a seastead. im sacagewea
day 60 i didnt own it i didnt make it i was just a temporary vacation guest, a no body, please dont imprison me for breaking the law

by the way even in the 2 months t was at sea. elwar couldnt even manage to stay there for 60 nights.
he just wanted to borrow a completely different project. fame it up as being the seastead project for a money grab

i think the future of education should be in remote teaching.
things like a youtube platform where lecturers present their lessons and students can like or dislike it. and eventually a hotlist of best lecturers for certain subjects pop up.

we already seen it happen a little bit with bitcoin. people found and liked andreas antanopolus, they found him very good at explaining bitcoin in the early days vs many others that tried and failed back then.
people will have the ability to pick their lecturer instead of just having the single lecturer of the single college that they were granted privelidge to be invited into.

i think revenue for lecturers should be based on views/likes/dislikes so that it teaches the teacher what they really should be focused on and learn from mistakes to make their job more productive.
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just imagine it. watch a youtube video about a subject and there is a link to a test. pass it first time and it adds a small percentage unit of credit to your academic score. get enough credits and you graduate
no deadlines. no constraints. just pay as you go learning in subjects you want to learn

$10k for 1 week time share... are you kidding me
you havnt even bought a single one and already want to grab money and not even let people own a hole pod in full.

and.. you think you can then get the investor to sub-let that to a airBnB customer for that week
seriously you need to sack your accountant. and project manager. and fundraiser. and lawyer

elwar even now you still just aint getting the point are you
stop stroking your ego trying to make out your sacagewea of the lewis and clarke expedition
not only is it a bad reference. but just .. no.. you aint

to be honest you latest video where you tag the guy 'sea jobs' has a bit more rep then you. maybe its time to take a step back and let people with a real eco-sea passion take over a eco-sea project.

i cant believe you presented the latest video as a anti-gov propaganda piece without realising how legally you were in the wrong, and thinking you were just a couple living in their home being free. .. then getting people around you to then say you didnt build it, own it, you were just staying there a while..
dang. even now you cant even edit a straight narrative together.

i say all this because seasteading and eco projects actually fascinate me both personally and professionally. and years ago i was looking for investments and hobbies. but you elwar have been the thorn in the project that has detracted me from it and even times i thought of suggesting a few things to help.. i then rethought my thoughts and decided you were not worthy of the tips.

but anyways. i digressed.
lets get back to my initial thought of the latest project you are trying to promote.
again dang your time shares are ridiculous especially when your hoping for those investors to make their money back from airBnB.
i still think you need a math teacher
its just as bad as your previous project of wanting millions to buy a boat to use as a HQ/office and occassional one night-guests

seriously try any let someone else be the front man of the project. even that 'sea jobs' guy(grant romundt) sounds better than you

i can understand truck stops have truckers from different regions and even abroad stopping by. but some places just go over the top when their local news says their is suspected cases nearby

most of it is media. talking about how some schools in that area had kids sent home sick.
where some students had recently been on a school trip to italy

i wouldnt mind using hand sanitiser if im shaking peoples hands or touching things a random group of people would also touch. but i would hope that the truck stop chef atleast had a high grade hygiene certificate himself. and was not wiping his sweat and snot into his hands before then touching burger buns (gordon ramseys kitchen/hotel renovation shows really highlight the real risk to getting sick)

id be more concerned with ecoli and/or getting run over by a truck in said truck stop than i would be of corona

but things get a little over the top when you start seeing people rub alcohol and hand sanitiser on their steering wheel when they are the only ever driver of their own car.

im just waiting for project immigration fear to start treating asian tourists as terrorists.. i can already sniff this sort of crap happening

again. not to try getting into a rebuttal. but things like antibiotics are not to cure things like HIV
let me take a second to remind you of the V
its VIRUS
its to protect people against other things that way if someone who is old and has a weak imune system for instance based on diabetes or something else. if they get corona they dont also want their body fighting off something else at the same time. like many things like ecoli, MRSA and such.

again. antibiotics are not used to cure HIV or corona.
there is no link between HIV and corona.
again. the medication that people with weak immune systems already due to many reasons. will be given things like antibiotics which these many things like diebetes hiv corona can cause weak immune systems

again. just to try and clarify to you. the media and some numpties here are trying hard to make it sound like corona is HIV based. purely due to the medication corona sufferers get also being medication HIV sufferers get.
it has nothing to do with curing the virus..
get that point?
its to do with helping them be protected from other stuff while their immune system is compromised by things like HIV, diebetes and corona

here is an analogy for you
if you smoke. one thing doctors advise is to use toothpaste to prevent gum and teeth problems with smoking
if you eat candy one thing doctors advise is to use toothpaste to prevent gum and teeth problems with candy
stupid people will say that candy is related to smoking. all due to toothpaste advice
do you get it. do you get the stupidity of that assumption?

when a flu has a 99.8% survival rate for a 21yo for any race, but then dont mention that part.
but instead pick up on the fact that he is not asian as the only sole reason for survival.
like it is the colour of skin that makes it special
this is a massive issue of misinformation and trying to set up a narrative based on skin colour. thus racial based

do some research folks
corona virus has been around since the 1960's
its not new.
each strain each year varies abit due to natural mutation.

each more severe strain usually gets given a big buzzword name like sars or mers. and all other varients are just called flu

the reason the word corona virus has not been spoken in media so much is because instead of letting communities really study it and check how severe it is. media grabbed it before it got a public name and misunderstood it and just gave it the broad term corona virus because they didnt know any better.

so now people suddenly think corona is new, and deadly.
fact is corona viruses have been around for over 60 years

and yes just because you got the flu 2 years ago doesnt mean you'll never get the flu again.
just stop trying to make out that this seasons flu is a 99% killer.. when the reality is if your under 50yo you got a 99% chance of being fine
stop trying to make out its as bd as aids where once you got it your stuck with it and eventually will be the death of you.
flu's come and go. new seasons new years new sniffles and coughs

heck i bet people didnt even know that swine flu was actually called
porcine delta corona virus

yep corona virus is common.
but each year the strain changes and causes a different symptoms
in short. its the friggen flue and been around since the 1960's so will everyone calm the hell down with all the conspiracy theories

as for the stupidity of linking it to HIV
HIV weakens the immune system so people need antibiotics to protect them from other viruses
these antibiotics dont cure HIV or help HIV. they re used to help prevent people get other flu's
this does not mean corona20 causes hiv or mutated from hiv. it just means general antibiotics used for many purposes are being used for corona 20.

its actually not got anything to do with left winger/right winger
thats just the political buzzwording once media hve grabbed and twisted the narrative

its actually wester invaders taking land nd resources.
things like this happened in africa over 50 years ago when millions were displaced so western big-agri could take over. and even now 70 years on people are homeless without sanitation and clean water.
all due to invaders coming in and taking lnd and making people live miles away from their natural habitats

the middle east is the same thing. but modern history tries glossing over the wars that even go as far back as the ottoman empire and even before world war 1.

the problem is not that islamists are angry with their own country and the rest of the world. the problem is they are losing their country to the rest of the world.

and the west isnt helping
with one hand they pretend to be globalist saying everyone should be allowed to go places and the west should be allowed to come into the east.
but then when the east want to come into the west even just to settle and hve a family. they are treated like criminals and outcasts.

difference being if the west go east to invade. its western defense
if the east go west for a peaceful life. its illegal immigration, threat to western national security

the west can terrorise the east and media wont call it terrorist
the east can just say they are angry with the west and suddenly thats terrorism

im not endorsing the lunatics who go to extremes. but tarnising a whole race/religion//community with one brush is just not even bothering to comprehend the scope of whats actually going on, nor even considering solutions or consequences

if the west feel threatened that they will get killed for entering the east.. simple. just stop going there

lets not forget that 2019 did not invent the term 'corona virus'

corona viruses were around even in the 1960's.
a few stupid people think a 1990's cartoon TV show (simpsons) predicted 2020.. but that is wrong. people commonly get corona virus every year.
ITS THE FLU PEOPLE!!!
 
what people do not realise is once identified which strain/mutation a particular year/season has become worthy of making a deal out of they usually give it a more buzzwordy public name such as the 2002 SARS or the 2016 MERS

this 2019/20 strain is SARS based but because media latched onto it and doomsdayed it as something huge and didnt understand it. they actually didnt even have time to give it a specific buzzwordy name.

so yes people are now hearing the word corona virus and conspiracy theorising that in 2019-20 is some new invention in a lab and some cartoon in the 1990's predicted 27 years into the future.
reality is corona viruses have been around us since the 1960's.. the only difference now is racial hatred towards china in media, fast internet speeds to spread misinformation and more freespeach to let stupid people think they know better

im all for free speach and spreading information.. but will people just do a simple task of doing some friggen research first