Hi, will people read my mobile number?  Short answer Yes technicaly impossible to hide. But we have added protection from call backs and text backs. In short we will block all incoming texts and calls from the people who received a promo using our app for 72h. |
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Hi guys!! OUR ICO starts November 18th at 15:00GMT. - Token symbol: BIRD
- Used Blockchain: Ethereum
- ICO price of token: 1 ETH - 42 000 BIRDS
- Minimum contribution: 0.1 ETH/person
- Maximum contribution: 2000 ETH/person
- KYC/AML is required from 2.5 ETH
. First wave gets 50% bonuses.
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Hi guys!! OUR ICO starts November 18th at 15:00GMT. - Token symbol: BIRD
- Used Blockchain: Ethereum
- ICO price of token: 1 ETH - 42 000 BIRDS
- Minimum contribution: 0.1 ETH/person
- Maximum contribution: 2000 ETH/person
- KYC/AML is required from 2.5 ETH
. First wave gets 50% bonuses.
Join us! |
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Dear Community,
We have some important information concerning the ICO.
This week an agreement was settled with a strategic investor who will invest 5M USD in the project SMSCHAIN.
In result of this, our CEO has decided to call off the ICO, which was supposed to take place November 20th, 2017. With this agreement, the team has raised the sufficient funds to proceed with the development and implementations of the project according to the original road map.
Please note that,
- All individual investments collected so far as of today will be returned back to the wallets they originaly proceeded. The funds will be returned to all wallets between 20th and 23rd November 2017.
- Tokens of the SMS project will be once again available for purchase once the project is developed and launched.
- Bounty campaign tokens and those won during the Telegram channel lottery will be fully paid until December 20, 2017.
We welcome you to stay in touch. There is a lot of work ahead on the way to success.
Best regards,
SMSCHAIN Team
Congratulations on raising your capital but we are very sorry to see that you have failled your community... On the other hand we are not going to give up to the corporations and stick with the community. Thus all those who believe in projects supported by the people join us on our ICO Saturday November 18 15:00:00 GMT. |
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In your whitepaper you write "Secondly, businesses pay up to 8 euro cents per single SMS to send promotional or transactional messages to their clients."
How did you come up with this number? Twilio, for example, asks only $0.0075 to send or receive a message. So, that's less than 1 euro cent per single SMS.
Please explain.
Hi it depends on the country. The one you have shared is prob for the USA guessing for the price (but the volume is huge there). Here is few different countries across the world and the price of SMS (you can check twillio page) Brazil - 0.0570$ Germany - 0.0850$ China - 0.0280$ Mexico - 0.0490$ |
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The only problem is to discover what each operator consider "fair usage" to limit to that option.
Issue if you want to have a farm or just for your plan? |
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okay not too bad to look at the project on this thread of course in this case I still need to see more about how it would be great to use it in the future. Make just some other examples
How I might help you? That is what kind of information you would like to have? |
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I have some questions before applying to ICO.
I am from Turkey and in Turkey you will have to be a registered telecom company in order to send senderID SMS.
I wonder how the Birdchain will pass this issue as I don't want my own number to send SMS to people I don't know.
Do both sender and receiver should be the Birdchain APP user in order to send/get SMS or only the sender should be a user is enough?
Also in Turkey we are not allowed to resell our services that are provided by telecoms even it's 1 or 10000 SMS. How you will bypass this?
Thanks a lot!
Hi, We wont lie. It is technicaly impossibel to hide the senders ID. So your number will be seen. However we have put protection in place like for 72h the receiver of promotional SMS wont be able to make a call or text you. Also in the SMS there will always be a name of the company that sends the SMS. Only the sender has to have the app. You bought those messages they are yours. As long as you do not go over the FUA (fair usage agreement) set number of SMS they cant check you. It is a breach of privacy and basic human right. |
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Sorry to ruin your day, but, unfortunately, it cannot work due to the standard mobile contract terms in the current use. Here, just as an example, BT Mobile service terms in UK. Prohibited use: You must not allow our service to be used: - for machine to machine communication (this means the communication between two or more machines without a person);
- or to create your own personal hotspot which provides internet access to other devices which may be used by yourself or others (this is sometimes known as 'tethering');
- or to route, re-route, forward, or divert calls and text messages for commercial gain (this is sometimes known as being a 'GSM gateway' or a 'SIM gateway'), or for any other purposes other than personal use;
- or to make offensive, indecent, menacing, nuisance or hoax calls, or to cause annoyance, inconvenience or needless anxiety;
- or in any manner which is otherwise unlawful.
We provide the ability to use our services outside of the UK, but you must not use them solely for this purpose (that is, our service is not intended nor designed for permanent or near permanent use outside of the UK). You must not resell our service.Source: http://www.productsandservices.bt.com/products/static/terms/mobile-service.htmlViolation of the terms would result in the termination of the contract and possible fines. Hi, As long as the user doesn't exceed his fair usage agreement operators operator will not have any pretext to check what messages were sent from the phone. Also operators will not risk to get sued for privacy violations (reading private messages) and even if they would win, the cost of victory would be too high and to damaging to their brand. Lastly it is unlikely for operators to take any real actions in the next three-four years. Also the law doesnt forbid to send business related messages. By the way this is a bit of topic: Point two in BT regulations : create your own personal hotspot which provides internet access to other devices which may be used by yourself or others (this is sometimes known as 'tethering'); Illogical also. You cant share your data with a friend even tho it belongs to you... |
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?
The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences: 1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world. 2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system. Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016. Hi, Birdchain team is here. I would like to first state that we do not want to start badmouthing on other projects. Thus before you make your statements about other projects please do a thoruogh research about the project and team. 1. Our team is already 10 years in the A2P SMS market thus I can clearly state that we have all the required Know-How, Experience, Technology, Connections and Clients in place. And you are one of our smaller clients. 2. Our whitepaper has been updated since the last version you are reffering to. In addition a new update coming soon in a few days. 3. Your product from 2016 has no relationship with what you are trying to create now. If anyone has any questions regarding our project please ask directly and do not refer to people who are bias  . Visit us at www.birdchain.ioP.s. Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders. Hi Birdchain. We have made our research about your project before making the post and we expressed our opinion about the advantages which we currently have in comparison to your project. Stating such advantages has nothing to do with badmouthing. 1. You definitely have significant experience on the A2P SMS market. What you don't have experience in is SMS quality testing, which is essential part of any similar project to function. If you do not have proper quality control implemented, you will constantly face issues with fake DLRs and general low quality delivery problems. We have certainly much more experience in the domain of SMS quality testing and this is a simple fact which we have stated. I am sure you will be able to figure this out yourself, however, it will definitely take more time for you since you have to do it from scratch. 2. Unfortunately, we are not monitoring your white paper on daily basis. However, we had a quick look at it now and we still see almost no technical details about how the blockchain part of your system is expected to work. You cannot compare it to our detailed explanation (ref: https://smschain.org/wp_smschain.pdf?v=1.2.6 pages 14-20 ). We dedicate at least 6 full pages of our white paper to blockchain infrastructure details and we do not see anything comparable in yours. This can mean one of 3 things: 1. You are still behind in research when it comes to the blockchain part of the system. 2. You have done the research, however, for some reason you still have not added it to your white paper. 3. There is a detailed description in your white paper, we just can't find it. The only relevant technical information we have found in your white paper was reference to Plasma + IOTA. Hence, we are inclined to believe the 1st case. 3. Our product which is live since 2016 had direct relation to what we are creating. It serves as a prototype of a testing node, which will be an essential part of SMSCHAIN network. P.S. we haven't promoted our website on any of your channels as yet, is it ok for us to do it as you did it in our thread?  P.P.S "Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders." - that is not the case. SMSCHAIN will also allow general public to sell SMS and will not focus only on token holders. We see that you will disapoint a lot of people for this we are very sorry. |
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What is your advantage between BIRDCHAIN A2p ico?
The idea is more or less the same for both, SMSCHAIN and BIRDCHAIN. I would say, there are 2 main differences: 1. Birdchain does not have embedded delivery quality control, at least from what we can see in their white paper. Without Proof-of-delivery the system would not work properly and SMSCHAIN has a lot of experience in this field and has already created tools which enable the system to automatically control the delivery quality, which can be faked otherwise. I am sure that Birdchain will realise this at some point and implement something similar, however, it will take much longer time as they have no experience in this field at all, while we have a working solution which is currently being used by most top SMS aggregators in the world. 2. Birdchain is quite behind in terms of development as well as conceptually. Their white paper hardly describes how the blockchain part of their platform would function, they do not provide any technical details, unlike us. We already made a lot of research and development on this subject and we already know how to implement every aspect of our system. Overall, Birdchain just came up with the concept, however, did not have enough time to think about the technical side of implementation. In contrast, we already have working prototypes of the product and it has been live since 2016. Hi, Birdchain team is here. I would like to first state that we do not want to start badmouthing on other projects. Thus before you make your statements about other projects please do a thoruogh research about the project and team. 1. Our team is already 10 years in the A2P SMS market thus I can clearly state that we have all the required Know-How, Experience, Technology, Connections and Clients in place. And you are one of our smaller clients. 2. Our whitepaper has been updated since the last version you are reffering to. In addition a new update coming soon in a few days. 3. Your product from 2016 has no relationship with what you are trying to create now. If anyone has any questions regarding our project please ask directly and do not refer to people who are bias . Visit us at www.birdchain.ioP.s. Key difference between our solutions is that we will allow the general public to sell SMS which will have bigger global impact, adaptability of the app and appeal while SMSCHAIN will focus on few token holders. |
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I didn't understand whether i've submitted the form or now. It's shows nothing when you hit button to submit but on the top Share this link appeared.
Also the spreadsheet is blanked.
I want to reserve russian translation.
Hi Russian language transaltion is still open. If you dont mind please sign up again. |
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Hi, the form should be working now. Could you please check it? |
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Can I reserve Romanian translation? That form from translation doesn't work properly, the link is wrong and I can't see who reserved what.
Hi all the links should be working now. Please try again. |
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WWW.BIRDCHAIN.IO Birdchain is a decentralized instant messaging application. It will give its users opportunity to earn extra income by selling their unused SMS messages, watching promotional videos, and selling their data. Personal data is already being smartly used by such companies as Google and Facebook. Birdchain DApp users will be able to choose which data exactly they want to sell and generate income. Referral ProgramOur ICO Referral Program ofers weekly flat rate of BIRD tokens on all contributions raised. With ever upcoming week the referral rate will decrease. Do not miss out!
Apply here.Blog & NewsIn order to qualify for a bounty, the blog or news website:- can be written in any language for blogs with 300+ followers
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All the blogs provided will be DIVIDED into THREE QUALITY CATEGORIES in order to reward those participants who invested the most EFFORT into their blogs:Basic = 1000 BIRDs (Birdchain tokens) Medium = 5000 BIRDs (Birdchain tokens) Good = 10000 BIRDs (Birdchain tokens) Good = 42000 BIRDs (Birdchain tokens) Evaluation will be based on length, quality and blog popularity.Please submit your URL to the blog here.You can track your approval here. Birdchain ICO Starts 01 - 03 - 2018 Birdchain ICO Ends 31 - 05 - 2018 Soft Cap 1,500 ETH - Achieved Hard Cap 10,500 ETH - In Progress |
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Interesting. What if I have unlimited SMS messages that I can send only to certain mobile service users? Let's say I have O2 mobile service plan and I can send unlimited SMSs only to O2 users. Can I still use this app? Will my messages be sent only to O2 users?
Hi, this is not a problem to do. We are going to apply a solution that is used in the A2P aggregation business. By analyzing the number it is possible to determine the provider. This way we will ensure that the SMS sent through your phone would go only to the people with the same plan/provider. |
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Hi there! I'm just curious, aren't mobile service providers against SMS usage for marketing, commercial purpose or for another usage that is not personal? And how will you control the situation or help in case if carrier bans the user?  Hi, every user that signs a contract with a provider signs a fair usage agreement if you do not go above it then providers won't get any red flag. In addition, if you are actively using your phone, moving, calling and using data, then it's not a problem. On the other hand, what right do the operators have to look at the messages you are sending? |
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Hi,
We are planning to do an ICO in November and one of the countries we are thinking to incorporate is Estonia. From this post, I get mixed feelings of a great place to do it and not so. What is your opinion on it?
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Do not quite understand how this works? For example, I have a mobile phone on which some amount of SMS has not been spent. How can you use them? How do you negotiate with a mobile operator? Or turn on my phone in your system and how would I send SMS from my phone? And if these SMS will contain information of pornographic, criminal or terrorist nature, and my phone and I will have to answer for your SMS?
Hi, It is quite simple. Let me tackle your questions one by one: I have a mobile phone on which some amount of SMS has not been spent. How can you use them?It is actually very simple. All you will have to do is download our IM app set it as the default messaging app and in the settings set the amount of SMS you would like to sell and press start. This way your phone becomes a HubSpot that works in the background. How do you negotiate with a mobile operator?We do not and we do not have to. SMS market is very small, negligible business for the operators. At the same time if the operators will enter this business will be already well established. Plus, how will the providers will know that promotional messages are being sent through? What right do they have to read your personal SMS? Or turn on my phone in your system and how would I send SMS from my phone?Your SMS would still work the same way as it always worked. It will be possible to send P2P messages both ways - by using the mobile data and through the standard SMS protocol. If the receiver does not have the Birdchain app, he will receive a regular SMS message. And if these SMS will contain information of pornographic, criminal or terrorist nature, and my phone and I will have to answer for your SMS?Our solution will have all required fraud and spam detections integrated that is currently used by all aggregators. By the way, have you seen our explainer video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90ECs3_Je0 |
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