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121  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 01:41:07 PM
18-20USD/G seems very reasonable, but price also depends on the date of delivery.
Also, will you open pre-orders?

No we won't accept pre-orders at all.



As I said earlier, we are not sure if we will sell devices

I missed this. If you are here to create hype for your products, why discuss this project here at all if you are not offering it for sale ?

Am I missing something ?

I can certainly appreciate that you are trying to create a new SHA256 ASIC, but not sure of your intentions with posting this thread now.

Actually i like the fact that they announced it here. If they didn't we would wonder why the sudden increase in hashrate from "Unknown". I think knowing all or most ASIC players is a good thing. Also the fact that they won't accept money for pre-orders is another good thing.

@labcoin When do you expect your first chips in hand and when can we expect some kind of prototype? How fast will you go for the v2@65nm and will you use University channels there too? If not then you need some kind of fab relations to put you in the line.

We do expect the first version 1 chips for early August and shortly later a working prototype, and the plan is to tape the version 2 @65nm outside university channels.
122  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 01:36:20 PM
with only 34 postings and sign up in may of 2013 how much of a claims do you have? now with members asking a few more questions you tend to throw up in saying you only would sell to private investors? not for the general public? are you scare or try to hide  something from us? ?

I've just over reacted a bit when i saw 'what-looked-like' accusations and bad slang. I do apologize for that. I'm trying to clarify each and every point that is being asked, except those for which i can't really give a definitive answer yet.

Kncminer was grill to the bone of over 100 pages of postings before they proof themselves somewhat legitimate . you better show some patience and be cool and answer respectfully and not like butterfly Josh/inaba who curse and swear because of all the not so positive postings on his business practices.

You are right. I just want to add that i didn't insult anyone, the farther i went was calling P.Gage a troll, for which i've gave an explaination and apologize.  It is our intention to keep this conversation professional and as respectful and fruitful as possible. Thank you.

That was excellent advice given. You are more than welcome to stick it back up my ass as long as it's done professionally. Adding a little humor at my expense also helps.

I truly wasn't offended with the troll post of yours. I used it to drive a different point home at the time.

I do want to apologize to you though for coming on so strong at the onset of my postings on this thread. I hope you understand that a many ASIC scammers came before you (you know what I mean), therefore guards are up.

We totally understand your concerns, as we are watching from the sidelines since a while now and have seen the parade of scams. Better safe than sorry. I will continue providing consistent updates to this thread for you to evaluate our conduct and progress. You do not need to apologize, i responded to you and we settled it down. Cheers up mate.

Great, bud!

Welcome to the site.

You passed.  Grin

Thank you! Glad to get your personal welcome  Cool

123  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:40:27 AM
Can I take a stab in the dark and guess who your investor is?

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Tibanne Limited
Unit 1010, Miramar Tower, 132 Nathan Rd, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, Hong Kong
817-466915-838
HSBC Tsim Sha Tsui
HSBCHKHHHKH
THE HONGKONG AND SHANGHAI BANKING CORPORATION LIMITED
1 QUEEN'S ROAD CENTRAL, HONG KONG

Oh no, no strange plots of weird stuffs like that, i gave you an fair explaination ( again because someone already asked clarification about that earlier, are you actually reading the thread ?   Huh). Read my post, that company (asiaBS, which corresponds to that address) is just the most popular incorporation agency in Hong Kong and acts as a mail drop service too. There's nothing suspicious in this. Many companies in Hong Kong that operate in a offshore fashion share that same address.

We can all concede the address thing.

But I did run the image through one of photoshop detection thingies, and it said there's a mustard stain...  Grin

Later, bud.

PS: Are you sure there's no starfishes in the hallways?  Grin

eheh, i'm curious to know which kind of mustard is that  Cool
 you can look up http://www.hkent.biz/1866914.html or ask directly the Hong Kong Chamber of commerce.
I appreciate your dedication. indeed.

Later!
124  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:34:56 AM
with only 34 postings and sign up in may of 2013 how much of a claims do you have? now with members asking a few more questions you tend to throw up in saying you only would sell to private investors? not for the general public? are you scare or try to hide  something from us? ?

I've just over reacted a bit when i saw 'what-looked-like' accusations and bad slang. I do apologize for that. I'm trying to clarify each and every point that is being asked, except those for which i can't really give a definitive answer yet.

Kncminer was grill to the bone of over 100 pages of postings before they proof themselves somewhat legitimate . you better show some patience and be cool and answer respectfully and not like butterfly Josh/inaba who curse and swear because of all the not so positive postings on his business practices.

You are right. I just want to add that i didn't insult anyone, the farther i went was calling P.Gage a troll, for which i've gave an explaination and apologize.  It is our intention to keep this conversation professional and as respectful and fruitful as possible. Thank you.

That was excellent advice given. You are more than welcome to stick it back up my ass as long as it's done professionally. Adding a little humor at my expense also helps.

I truly wasn't offended with the troll post of yours. I used it to drive a different point home at the time.

I do want to apologize to you though for coming on so strong at the onset of my postings on this thread. I hope you understand that a many ASIC scammers came before you (you know what I mean), therefore guards are up.

We totally understand your concerns, as we are watching from the sidelines since a while now and have seen the parade of scams. Better safe than sorry. I will continue providing consistent updates to this thread for you to evaluate our conduct and progress. You do not need to apologize, i responded to you and we settled it down. Cheers up mate.
125  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:27:55 AM
Can I take a stab in the dark and guess who your investor is?

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Tibanne Limited
Unit 1010, Miramar Tower, 132 Nathan Rd, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, Hong Kong
817-466915-838
HSBC Tsim Sha Tsui
HSBCHKHHHKH
THE HONGKONG AND SHANGHAI BANKING CORPORATION LIMITED
1 QUEEN'S ROAD CENTRAL, HONG KONG

Oh no, no strange plots of weird stuffs like that, i gave you a fair explaination ( again because someone already asked clarification about that earlier, are you actually reading the thread ?   Huh). Read my post, that company (asiaBS, which corresponds to that address) is just the most popular incorporation agency in Hong Kong and acts as a mail drop service too. There's nothing suspicious in this. Many companies in Hong Kong that operate in a offshore fashion share that same address.
126  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:25:12 AM
with only 34 postings and sign up in may of 2013 how much of a claims do you have? now with members asking a few more questions you tend to throw up in saying you only would sell to private investors? not for the general public? are you scare or try to hide  something from us? ?

I've just over reacted a bit when i saw 'what-looked-like' accusations and bad slang. I do apologize for that. I'm trying to clarify each and every point that is being asked, except those for which i can't really give a definitive answer yet.

Have you ever seen a StarFish in the hallways?

Companies office is my friend.

FNIB has 100,000,000 shares owned by
 
  Carry Trade International Limited
  10/f Miramar Tower, 132 Nathan Road, Tsim Sha Tsui, Kowloon, 852 , Hong Kong

Yes, that's AsiaBS - http://www.asiabs.com/ - Hong Kong company formation services - address.
We have yet to settle down on a physical location, while we have a lab located in Shenzhen, courtesy of Tsinghua university.
127  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:22:47 AM
with only 34 postings and sign up in may of 2013 how much of a claims do you have? now with members asking a few more questions you tend to throw up in saying you only would sell to private investors? not for the general public? are you scare or try to hide  something from us? ?

I've just over reacted a bit when i saw 'what-looked-like' accusations and bad slang. I do apologize for that. I'm trying to clarify each and every point that is being asked, except those for which i can't really give a definitive answer yet.

Kncminer was grill to the bone of over 100 pages of postings before they proof themselves somewhat legitimate . you better show some patience and be cool and answer respectfully and not like butterfly Josh/inaba who curse and swear because of all the not so positive postings on his business practices.

You are right. I just want to add that i didn't insult anyone, the farther i went was calling P.Gage a troll, for which i've gave an explaination and apologize.  It is our intention to keep this conversation professional and as respectful and fruitful as possible. Thank you.
128  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:10:31 AM
with only 34 postings and sign up in may of 2013 how much of a claims do you have? now with members asking a few more questions you tend to throw up in saying you only would sell to private investors? not for the general public? are you scare or try to hide  something from us? ?

I've just over reacted a bit when i saw 'what-looked-like' accusations and bad slang. I do apologize for that. I'm trying to clarify each and every point that is being asked, except those for which i can't really give a definitive answer yet.
129  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 03:05:20 AM
Reserved

But your company & Asia Bussines same address.
http://www.asiabs.com/english/english_contact_us_hong_kong.htm

Explain please

Asia Business is who registered our legal entity in Hong Kong and included in the price of company registration you do get a a mail forwarding service, normally you use that for correspondance, until you find and buy/rent your office space.


http://www.linkedin.com/company/itec-pro-limited



Is this the same iTec Pro Ltd. from 2004?: http://ieeeexplore.com/xpl/login.jsp?tp=&arnumber=1260644&contentType=Journals+%26+Magazines&url=%2Fxpl%2FarticleDetails.jsp%3Freload%3Dtrue%26arnumber%3D1260644%26contentType%3DJournals%2B%2526%2BMagazines

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Ip, S.K. ; iTec Pro Ltd., Hong Kong, China

No, we have incorporated in Feb. 2013, while the labcoin experiment has been active since september/october. Here follows our certificate of incorporation :

130  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:40:37 AM
So...how does one get on the list to be a tester of the USB device you will be giving out in August? Would love to be one of the few, have lots of video equipment and am willing to document everything. Smiley

Mail us your interest to info@labcoin.com. There will be a limited number so be sure to shoot  a mail right away!

Cheers
131  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:36:49 AM
As I said earlier, we are not sure if we will sell devices

I missed this. If you are here to create hype for your products, why discuss this project here at all if you are not offering it for sale ?

Am I missing something ?

I can certainly appreciate that you are trying to create a new SHA256 ASIC, but not sure of your intentions with posting this thread now.

From our initial post :

This is initially a self-funded venture, so this thread is not meant to sell "pre-orders" or the likes.
Rather, it is  a mean for the community to evaluate our work and plans for a eventual, future second phase, when we will open investment opportunities to the public.
132  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:34:34 AM
Let me get this straight! It took you 14 posts to try to get outta Newbie hell over a period of a month, when it can be accomplished in 5 hours, yet you're here to convince us that you have the next best thing to help protect the network, and all we will accomplished without a hitch. Golly gee, I'm all goatse!

Now, I have to read this thread to see if it's warranted to stick it up your ass--further!

After reading your first 15 posts, I'm pretty sure we're dealing with a kid here, someone with the same mentality that would propose starting a Bitcoin Town.

The usual troll visit. Well, i will reply to your childish accusations, we just didn't have any hurry to post here, that's why we patiently waited to get out the newbie section.
I work on the PR side of the business but i also act as a coordinator of the technical team, so i don't have much time to use on the forums.
Also, your language is pretty 'much out of context'. Your intervention here just brought the conversation to a low, unexpected level. I wouldn't add anything else.

I wouldn't call Phinnaeus Gage a troll or newbie, look he has an activity level of 742, joined june 16th 2011 versus yours may 18th 2013? he is a very respected investigator, a golden treasure in this forum. Grin

He knows exactly who I am, albeit referencing me as troll is off.

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The usual troll visit.

Tell us again how you patiently went through the Newbie process. Have you read your first 14 posts lately?

Allow me to paraphrase:

Let me outta here!
How do I get outta here!
I want outta here!

I believe the questions are going to get a heck of a lot thougher but, then again, you know the drill. You know exactly how this forum operates, so no need to cry to mods.

I apologize for calling you a troll, your first post didn't approach us in a kind way, you must admit that.
After days of waiting, since i didn't know the 'Total time logged in' counter depends on activity rather than just time, i grown a little frustrated.
Then i proceeded to post some duplicates of this message on the Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) :

-----------------------------------------------------------------
June 16, 2013, 11:26:44 AM
Dear Administrators,

Requesting to be whitelisted to post important updates about our ASIC project in the proper sections.
We are not taking any pre-orders or any kind of up-front money and do not need any kind of financing.
Nevertheless,we believe our announcement will be of some interest for the community. I will add a teaser :

We will be giving away some (limited amount) free USB devices similar to Block eruptors USB of ASICMINER in early,mid August.

Thanks for your attention

Samuel Noi
CEO
Labcoin Limited Hong Kong
http://www.labcoin.com

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Do you still think we are doing something wrong here ?

Cheers up!
133  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:21:52 AM
You better be prepared to answer a lot of questions just to let you know a head of time. would you have an open day to visit your facility and show case your Asic Miner? Do you plan to have STOCKS on hand before taking order? What payments options do you plan on having, paypal, credit and debit cards, STP, Perfect Money, Payza, okpay, bank wire, bitcoin, instalments plan?

We are well prepared, i've replied to your email as well. We will have an open day in our offices and will show up prototypes of technology at work, once it is ready.
As i said earlier, we surely plan to have stock before taking ANY order. Regarding payment methods, maybe the question is still too early, but i will try to respond  :

1) Bitcoin
2) Bank Wire

Paypal is just outside our interest. We want them to sink, not finance them further.


To proof your legitimacy we need Paypal and Credit Cards payment full stop.

To prove our legitimacy you will need to come to our offices in China and check out the prototypes. As I said earlier, we are not sure if we will sell devices, and we WON'T DO PREORDERS.
We will be opening opportunities to the public, but to mid-sized investors probably.
134  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:18:49 AM
so one more to make an asic

that s interesting but your partner is little bit arrogant one

i do remember to have ask him to give me an advice/help on one vhdl design my tech wasnt able to synthetize and thie guy have replied as if it was only the one who will be able to achieve anything

but anyone world is large and there is space for anyone even for arrogant people





You mean his European or Chinese partner is Arrogant? would you mind to share a bit more

the guy who hold the theseven as nickname

You are probably confusing him with someone else, i don't think Howard have posted anything regarding labcoin on any internet venue, let alone arrogant stuffs.
The guy who holds theSeven as a nickname is a serious professional which contributed to the open source FPGA bitcoin miner.
135  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project on: June 24, 2013, 02:15:06 AM
Sure. Since we're avoiding most EDA tools licensing costs...
How do you avoid the cost of EDA tools?

did he say he is using some university facilities to reduce costs, since his development costs is minimal
hope he give us much cheaper price than others ..? most of us has already spend our very little funds available
on Avalon, Butterfly, Bitfury, Kncminer --- what is left?

Yes, we're going through an university channel to avoid EDA licensing and getting better MPW rates.
136  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:13:37 AM
Let me get this straight! It took you 14 posts to try to get outta Newbie hell over a period of a month, when it can be accomplished in 5 hours, yet you're here to convince us that you have the next best thing to help protect the network, and all we will accomplished without a hitch. Golly gee, I'm all goatse!

Now, I have to read this thread to see if it's warranted to stick it up your ass--further!

After reading your first 15 posts, I'm pretty sure we're dealing with a kid here, someone with the same mentality that would propose starting a Bitcoin Town.

Our Bitcoin Asic Chip investigator is here, be prepared for his in depth coverage glad to know he is here, he sure will dig up a lot of background information of this company. The who, the why, the where, the proof, etc. Grin

Oh god, investigator... Please let us work and put a stop to this absurdity.
137  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:12:13 AM
Dear Bitcoin Community,

We are a new venture involved in the research and development of a novel Bitcoin mining technologies.
Our brand name is labcoin and our website is http://www.labcoin.com.
The management company is named "iTec Pro Limited" - Hong Kong, legally and officially registered in such jurisdiction.

This is initially a self-funded venture, so this thread is not meant to sell "pre-orders" or the likes.
Rather, it is  a mean for the community to evaluate our work and plans for a eventual, future second phase, when we will open investment opportunities to the public.

I won't post many images of IC and similar here, as a fair number of details can be found on our website, once again, our url is http://www.labcoin.com.

We look forward for constructive feedback and criticism. You can contact us with any question at info@labcoin.com or post in this thread. Thank you sincerely for your time.

Note : the pictures shown on our home page are just 3D renderings of possible case and board design and they do not represent real products.

Samuel Noi
Nominee Director
iTec-Pro Limited
sam.noi@labcoin.com

Just starting reading this thread, and stopped at the very first word.

Dear! Seriously? To think I penned goatse, above, as a joke. Surely a reach around will be in order once I get to the end of the OP.

Would you please stop speaking non-sense ? is this forum really populated with crazy individuals ? i'm not even getting what you're talking about.
Please put a stop to this or use proper English / Human communication.
138  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:09:47 AM
Let me get this straight! It took you 14 posts to try to get outta Newbie hell over a period of a month, when it can be accomplished in 5 hours, yet you're here to convince us that you have the next best thing to help protect the network, and all we will accomplished without a hitch. Golly gee, I'm all goatse!

Now, I have to read this thread to see if it's warranted to stick it up your ass--further!

After reading your first 15 posts, I'm pretty sure we're dealing with a kid here, someone with the same mentality that would propose starting a Bitcoin Town.

The usual troll visit. Well, i will reply to your childish accusations, we just didn't have any hurry to post here, that's why we patiently waited to get out the newbie section.
I work on the PR side of the business but i also act as a coordinator of the technical team, so i don't have much time to use on the forums.
Also, your language is pretty 'much out of context'. Your intervention here just brought the conversation to a low, unexpected level. I wouldn't add anything else.
139  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 02:06:20 AM
You better be prepared to answer a lot of questions just to let you know a head of time. would you have an open day to visit your facility and show case your Asic Miner? Do you plan to have STOCKS on hand before taking order? What payments options do you plan on having, paypal, credit and debit cards, STP, Perfect Money, Payza, okpay, bank wire, bitcoin, instalments plan?

We are well prepared, i've replied to your email as well. We will have an open day in our offices and will show up prototypes of technology at work, once it is ready.
As i said earlier, we surely plan to have stock before taking ANY order. Regarding payment methods, maybe the question is still too early, but i will try to respond  :

1) Bitcoin
2) Bank Wire

Paypal is just outside our interest. We want them to sink, not finance them further.
140  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [ANN] labcoin ASIC project - v.1 @180nm - v.2 @65nm - European / Chinese Team on: June 24, 2013, 12:28:30 AM
Just watching, too.

BUT Newsletter would be really nice, just to not missing sth. out. Smiley



Thanks for your input, we will be rolling out a newsletter in the next few days. Cheers!

Can you reply my pm please. Thanks Wink

Ouch, i must have overlooked the PMs, i have a bunch of them. Going thru'em  right now, sorry.
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