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Some interesting data here for assessing community optimism :-)
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What's the aspect ratio of the hardware screen? Is it useful to have a logo that fits well into it?
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How About: Global Currency Without Banks Yeah, I thought that too, but went with "Worldwide Money" as I thought it sounded a bit more down-to-earth. "Global Currency" sounds like a global-government thing IMHO - at a time when distrust of banks and international organisations is pretty low, I figured it was best to avoid things that sounded like them. Also people see "currency" as something other than what they can spend right now. Which is kind of true-ish here, but no point in putting people off unnecessarily ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) "Money" feels more practical. Having said all that, I'll knock up a "Global currency" one some time soon, if people like it.
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Just picked up this thread, hope it's not too late to join in. Having a quick think about what might attract people's attention while getting the basic message across, here's a first stab: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fimg824.imageshack.us%2Fimg824%2F5439%2Fworldwidemoney.png&t=663&c=Uo7KX_LQe5BtVg) Partly depends on who the audience is I guess...
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Anyone know if this stuff affects services running on Java, like Freenet?
i think the thing is, you should disable java because someone could write some very dangerous viruses / key logger, and just by visiting a site you could get infected, if you have java enabled just make sure you go to trusted places you should be fine. That kind of makes sense, although I guess there are levels of security - untrusted code, and then what it has access to, etc. I have always thought Java sucked... Isn't java an interpreted language and this is why it can run anywhere? my view is that it all sucks balls, everything barely hangs together, the web-code is one half baked idea thrown on top of another, and its only getting more convoluted as time goes on.
As I understand it, Java compilers are pretty efficient these days. Android apps are written in Java apparently - but don't get Java the language confused with Java the compatible-compilers - Android apps don't run on Oracle's Java engine. Oracle seem to be the problem more than "Java" in this case.
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what was the problem with it? Here is one in R that should work as long as the wiki doesn't change too much, I dont know how to host it though.:
R? nice ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Check back through the thread for other requests, but the things I had in mind was stuff like: - ignore/merge/map sections on the wiki page for when they got reorganised - fix the HighCharts output which I think has too much stuff in (doesn't show for me anyway) - see http://www.exmosis.net/btctt/highchart.php- count across different language versions, eg. take the German page into account as well, to get a more global view on activity Hosting on github is pretty easy - sign up, download the GUI, start a new repo, copy files in. Something like that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Happy to help via PM, or might just put a copy up in my repo for reference.
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Anyone know if this stuff affects services running on Java, like Freenet?
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Still got this on the radar, but realistically ot got time to do much development at the moment. Any PHP devs willing to lend a hand? Feels like there's some potential for at least tracking wiki usage... I've put the code on github here if so: https://github.com/exmosis/btc-wiki-trader-countWill do some if I have time/mojo, but things pretty busy these days... - scribe
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Update: 'Postcards...' and all other albums now Pay-what-you-want at Coindl - see belowIf you're a fan of cinematic, electronic music in the style of Vangelis' Bladerunner soundtrack with some printer-derived klaxons thrown in, check out this album from Rupert Lally and Espen J Jörgenson released on CoinDL.com today: https://www.coindl.com/page/item/662![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coindl.com%2Fpreviews%2FP26O2IV3MCDT.jpg&t=663&c=rBF-kbXRg0FVVg) It's Pay-What-You-Want, so nothing to lose for downloading for free and trying it out. The album was put together for CiTR radio's "24 Hours of Radio Art" day. Also *still* hoping to bring some other artists into the Bitcoin world soon. Will update this thread if/when it happens... Scribe http://blocknois.es/
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Used it for the first time yesterday - for some reason the fee was less than the PingIt fee so decided to give it a go. It's a bit weird entering your PinSentry details on a site that's not your bank, but seemed to work OK. The cash showed up as spent in my bank account immediately, and the BTC took a few hours to turn up - not sure if that's down to Sofort, standard blockchain wait (PingIt is usually quicker), or blockchain running out of coins.
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So I guess the dictionary hackers should reverse their algos (i.e. do not try anything that is in a word dictionary). ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Or at least try all the dictionary entries last... pretty safe bet. This might give a couple percent speedup. The password isn't "maybe not a word": it's more like "totally not a word". I am pretty sure it won't accidentally appear in a dictionary. If I google the password, I get no meaningful results, just websites dedicated to listing every possible 5-character combination. So all we need to do is hack your google account and check the search history? Sounds easier, anyway... Also for reference, it's not "VfHkP". Also less likely to be a string based on keyboard layout (such as ZaQwE. Which it's not.).
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So what would be the best way to make something secure, but still usable? (ie, not cold storage, I need to trade my coins on exchanges) My current plan is to buy a lightweight netbook, carry it with me all the time, put ubuntu and full-disk encryption on it, and only do bitcoin stuff from there.
A smartphone app that could scan paper wallets and initiate transactions would make paper wallets just as mobile as your netbook. I don't know if that smartphone app is part of the present or part of the future, but I gather your netbook won't be powered on 24/7 so it's just as cold as paper when it's off. The hardest part of using paper wallets is having to type the codes if you can't scan them. Eliminate the typing, and they are very convenient. They weigh far less than the netbook and can be given away IRL if you end up needing to give someone bitcoins. Is that assuming your scanning device is secure? I have a paper wallet set up, but know nothing of what happens to the private key I scan in, memory/app-wise...
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Just released version 4 of a book of haiku, assembled semi-randomly with a small PHP script. It's available on CoinDL here as pay-what-you-want, and you get free access to all future versions as well. Looking to expand it in future versions, would be interested if anyone has any thoughts.
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Always nice to see them amplifying the "danger" side of things, despite quotes like this further down the piece: He said the drugs sold tended to be older drugs such as cannabis, which he was surprised to find was the most common product.
"Bitcoin: Helping you buy what you always bought anyway."
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Pretty much stolen from the Argus article here, unless they have some kind of deal going on. Actually they probably do.
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Seems to be a few people in Brighton who use Bitcoin (Silk Road even made the front page of the local paper today). No meetups planned at the moment, but maybe if enough people want to? Thought I'd start a mailing list for anyone in the area in the meantime anyway: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/brighton-bitcoin Sign up and say hi if you're in the area. - Scribe
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Awesome, Bitcoins just made the front page of my local rag. Apologies if this doesn't fit the Press section, most of the coverage is Silk Road rather than Bitcoins, but I was too excited to see it there... The rest is pretty much as you'd imagine from a good, family-oriented local paper.
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There's an interesting thread in here somewhere. As a quick straw poll, who here actually has kids?
It's interesting to me as I'm raising a 2-year-old at the moment, and persuading them to do or not do things is a fascinating challenge. I tend away from using extreme physical power not because I'm ethically against it, but because I don't believe it's an effective teaching tool. In other words, I don't believe that tying together a particular target (the child) in a particular situation with physical force from a particular person (me) encourages the child to think for themselves. And at the end of the day, there's no way I have time or patience to tell them what they should or shouldn't do as new situations come up.
But that's also a general issue around judgement. I do not believe judgement should be assessed from an "imaginary" point of view, ie. imagining what someone else would like us to do. Survival requires adaptation and learning. Experimentation and subtle, Bayesian-style feedback is far more important than the social judgement invoked whenever one person directly uses extreme force - physical or mental - on another.
Obviously, though, I have to use some kind of "force" to influence my child's behaviour, otherwise they probably would get run over indeed. However, the key point is that this force is always appropriate force - appropriate to avoiding a situation getting worse.
Crossing the road is a good example. You could spank your child to be afraid of running into roads. Or you could introduce them to roads in a safer manner - even hand-holding is a form of "corporal" power in this case (as it physically restricts a person's movements), as is putting a child on your shoulders. However, they have far subtler effects and side-effects than extreme physical power.
This spectrum between the child doing what it wants, and forcing them to do otherwise, is what I would call "civility" but obviously that's just a personal definition. The child is free to explore within limits, and in doing so understands why those limits exist through experimentation over time. And pushes through those limits.
It has nothing to do with "ownership" and "rights". It is merely finding an effective way to ensure the longevity of one organism within an environment. From an effectiveness perspective, "owning" your own body is not as useful as knowing how to take care of it. I own a car, but it still gets dirty and runs out of oil. Would I feel more responsibility for it if I was borrowing it? Or would I feel more if I wanted, for some reason, the car to be running in 5 years' time, regardless of who owned it?
To bring that back to the purpose of money, I believe the essential point to be whether money allows us, as its users, to exist in the long-term in our environment. The interaction that decides how our monetary system(s) judge our behaviour as a whole, and what feedback we receive for our actions, is really what we're discussing here.
More later maybe.
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