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121  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 04:22:19 AM
Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind.

Bullshit.
We need all of even the craziest theories to keep the mainstream in check. If those in power could just label anything they want a "conspiracy theory" then they could silence any dissenting opinion they wanted.

Limitation of speech is the worst enemy of mankind.

I would have battled alongside this OP if he had a case..

Bitcointalk is not not a government entity and can control the content anyway that it sees fit. If I submitted a "letter to the editor," to a newspaper and they failed to publish it, are they infringing on my free speech? If I submitted a book to a publisher and got a rejection letter, would my free speech rights be infringed? I don't think so.


Hitler felt the same way.

That is a slippery slope you're on.



"Freedom of the press" also involves the right of the press to refuse to publish anything. Otherwise, the government can insist that they publish propaganda, or else...

Ewww you are defending censorship, gross...

Yes Theymos can censor anything he wants because this is his private property and by US law he can do about anything he wants on his private property (except all of the freedoms the US gov takes away from you even on your private property). Just because it is legal doesn't mean it's right and certainly doesn't mean it is parallel with Satoshi's Bitcoin.

"It's fine that the forum is censoring anything negative about Bitcoin, it's their right" - Really?

I think Theymos strives to set a better example for freedom than just what the US law provides.
The US law is one of the best currently enforced, sure, but it is still a far cry from ideal (depending on who you ask).

Would your really be alright with moderators censoring any and all negative facts and opinions about Bitcoin?
I'd be gone..
But it doesn't, so I'm here, and OP is just full of shit / trolling..

Deleting it would be proof, so they just hid it in meta,
ie: plausible deniability  
Trolling  Roll Eyes

Anyway, I was more responding to the comment "Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind." in general than to the OP.


How is it trolling , when I have personally witness the mods delete entire topics to censor what they don't want known.
*Their is a difference between moderation when rules are broken and pure censorship to hide information , when no rules were broken.*
*The mods that delete/lock entire topics merely to make sure their false propaganda is never challenged. *
*Sad those mods don't know the difference. *


In the words of Picard.  
Ignore his warning at your discretion.
With the first link, the chain is forged.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5kjRKjpdE

There is nothing else to say, the above says it all.  Cool


122  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 04:15:22 AM

we have negative posters, then we have FUD posters, then we have trolls and at the bottom as a combination of all the above plus spamming are you two.
you say a "negative" post of yours were deleted, i am surprised why your accounts are not banned and nuked yet!

Dude, entire topics were deleted with everyone's post , not just mine.

Go back to your darken ignorance, you can't handle the light of truth.


 Cool
123  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 04:12:59 AM

1 second , you claim btctalk has no obligation to free speech, only censored speech their mods approve of,
the next second, you claim they can refuse because of the rights of the press.

You can't havay.

That e it both ways.

Are they a free venue to share ideas?
or
Are they a censored source of information?

FYI:
They can't be both.


Next thing that you will be spouting will be that the "ignore" feature is a gross infringement of people's freedom of speech.  Roll Eyes  People can blather on all they want. It does not entail an obligation on my part to read or listen. Want to post here? Please follow the rules or your content will be deleted and depending on the gravity of your offense, you will be banned from posting here.

ignore feature is a personal choice.

I noticed you refused to choose from the above choices, probably because the truth bothers you on some personal level.


 Cool
124  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 03:56:57 AM
Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind.

Bullshit.
We need all of even the craziest theories to keep the mainstream in check. If those in power could just label anything they want a "conspiracy theory" then they could silence any dissenting opinion they wanted.

Limitation of speech is the worst enemy of mankind.

I would have battled alongside this OP if he had a case..

Bitcointalk is not not a government entity and can control the content anyway that it sees fit. If I submitted a "letter to the editor," to a newspaper and they failed to publish it, are they infringing on my free speech? If I submitted a book to a publisher and got a rejection letter, would my free speech rights be infringed? I don't think so.


Hitler felt the same way.

That is a slippery slope you're on.



"Freedom of the press" also involves the right of the press to refuse to publish anything. Otherwise, the government can insist that they publish propaganda, or else...

1 second , you claim btctalk has no obligation to free speech, only censored speech their mods approve of,
the next second, you claim they can refuse because of the rights of the press.

You can't have it both ways.

Are they a free venue to share ideas?
or
Are they a censored source of information?

FYI:
They can't be both.
125  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 03:44:19 AM
Conspiracy Theory is the worst enemy to man kind.

Bullshit.
We need all of even the craziest theories to keep the mainstream in check. If those in power could just label anything they want a "conspiracy theory" then they could silence any dissenting opinion they wanted.

Limitation of speech is the worst enemy of mankind.

I would have battled alongside this OP if he had a case..

Bitcointalk is not not a government entity and can control the content anyway that it sees fit. If I submitted a "letter to the editor," to a newspaper and they failed to publish it, are they infringing on my free speech? If I submitted a book to a publisher and got a rejection letter, would my free speech rights be infringed? I don't think so.


Hitler felt the same way.

That is a slippery slope you're on.

Mods just moved the entire topic to Meta to hide it, No one reads Meta.  Wink


LOL , everybody read Meta because its about the Forum !

Looks like you have no idea about the forum itself !   Huh

Sorry bud, but meta has only ~366 pages of posts.
the Discussion forum has over ~1236 page of posts.

Everyone reads the discussion forum, very few users actually waste time reading meta, it is just too boring.
Which is why it is a good place to bury / hide a topic if you want to keep the general reader from seeing it.


 Cool
126  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 03:37:21 AM
they censor anything they don't want to be known.
Show me some examples?

Which is what I did , before you so rudely interrupted.   Kiss

Well this thread isn't deleted yet. Still waiting for my evidence..

Mods just moved the entire topic to Meta to hide it, No one reads Meta.  Wink

Deleting it would be proof, so they just hid it in meta,
ie: plausible deniability 
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the price of Bitcoin falls below the cost of mining? on: December 17, 2018, 01:26:56 AM
Since there are people with free electricity there will always be someone who will be able to profit through mining.
Just those who pay for power will have hard times.

Who are these people with Free Electricity?


128  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What happens when the price of Bitcoin falls below the cost of mining? on: December 17, 2018, 01:23:51 AM
So, I was thinking, for the long term, even if Bitcoin goes below USD 6000, no worries, 5000, 4000, much the same. Hodl for the long run.

But, the vitality of Bitcoin is maintained by the continuous mining of Bitcoin. On an average these mining costs are USD 3000 to 3500 approximately. So, what happens when Bitcoin falls to that level?

Maybe the mining rigs won't mind bearing losses for a few months if they sense an upside later on. But, what if they don't, and start bailing out?

In that case, USD 3000 or whatever the lowest cost of mining Bitcoin will effectively become the null point.
If Bitcoin falls to that point, downwards beyond that is a steep vertical cliff wall, and an inevitable fall to Zero.


Additions to your Point.

If Bitcoin falls to that point, downwards beyond that is a steep vertical cliff wall,
Next HashRate Drops  * Currently happening *
Next 51% Attack
Then a Network Death Spiral , No BTC can be moved

Then an inevitable fall to Zero.
129  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 01:12:54 AM
You post about PoS in topics that aren't about PoS and then you wonder why it gets deleted?  You're a special kind of special, aren't you?

Actually Mr. Asshole, it was in a discussion on PoS & PoW in a technical forum where it was posted.
And it was relevant to the discussion because morons like you keep bringing it up like it is real , when it is pure fiction.


I don't discount the statistical probability that, of the many dozens of times you've posted about PoS, you might have managed to do it in a relevant thread on at least one occasion.  But it's usually in topics where it doesn't belong, such as this one.

Is your Reading comprehension as bad as it appears.

they censor anything they don't want to be known.
Show me some examples?

Which is what I did , before you so rudely interrupted.   Kiss
130  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 17, 2018, 12:28:06 AM
Not just Negative Posts, they censor anything they don't want to be known.

Provide links proving N@S is pure fiction , and the entire topic gets deleted.

Show Valid points of problems btc devs have never addresses, and the entire topic gets deleted.

And they wonder why their ad revenue is dropping, they kill all of the interesting posts with their cover ups.  Tongue

You post about PoS in topics that aren't about PoS and then you wonder why it gets deleted?  You're a special kind of special, aren't you?


Actually Mr. Asshole, it was in a discussion on PoS & PoW in a technical forum where it was posted.
And it was relevant to the discussion because morons like you keep bringing it up like it is real , when it is pure fiction.


 Cool



131  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 16, 2018, 11:22:42 PM
every negative post on this forum was deleted or poster banned
I don't believe you show me some evidence.

they censor anything they don't want to be known.
Show me some examples?
Make one (a thread) and PM me the thread link so I can watch and see if it disappears..

Ok,
The Nothing at Stake Myth is pure fiction , it is no threat whatsoever to a Proof of Stake coin.
https://talk.peercoin.net/t/pillows-peercoin-myths/2518/38#msg27787
Quote
Nothing-at-Stake is a busted myth

https://pivx.org/nothing-considered-a-look-at-nothing-at-stake-vulnerability-for-cryptocurrencies/
Quote
CONCLUSION
For both cases of fork with honest nodes and cases of forks with malicious actors, there is in fact “something at stake”.
For the particular arguments presented against Proof of Stake,
it can be said that Proof of Stake may actu­ally have more robust incentives for its peers and proof holders to stay on the main chain than does the Proof of Work system.
What is worth more, a person’s entire coin holdings for Proof of Stake miners or a few minutes of electricity consumption for Proof of Work miners?  


 Cool

FYI:
Last week an entire Topic was deleted because of the above links.   Smiley
132  Other / Meta / Re: Forum is now Deleting Negative Posts - Imagine Reality if the Negative Stayed? on: December 16, 2018, 11:08:37 PM
Not just Negative Posts, they censor anything they don't want to be known.

Provide links proving N@S is pure fiction , and the entire topic gets deleted.

Show Valid points of problems btc devs have never addresses, and the entire topic gets deleted.

And they wonder why their ad revenue is dropping, they kill all of the interesting posts with their cover ups.  Tongue
133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: QUESTIONS 51% attack possible? Is BTC dead for good? on: December 16, 2018, 09:10:56 PM
It's quite easy for the low cap coins to be 51% attacked but bitcoin's sheer size makes it nearly impossible.  The amount of money that would be needed to generate enough hashrate wouldn't even make sense financially.  Maybe if a group of billionaires wanted to see bitcoin die it could be done but they would not make any money off their attack.

The amount of money required may not be as much as you think.

One needs a little less than 1 hour to 30 minutes to double spend their entire btc amount.

So all one would need to do is rent the needed hashrate for 1 hour, to devastate btc.

IE:
https://www.coindesk.com/this-college-freshman-is-out-to-51-attack-your-cryptocurrency
Quote
While going through the exchange process costs more,
the 51% attack has still become quite economical due to the rise of cloud computing.
According to geocold51, without access to cloud mining, an attack like he did on bitcoin private would have cost him about $100,000 in hardware.
Geocold51 estimates he spent $100 to get to the point where he could have done a demonstration double spend on bitcoin private,

“Nicehash and the ability to rent hashing power fundamentally changes the landscape of 51% attacks,” geocold51 told CoinDesk, adding:

“If there’s not a lot of hashing power to secure it, but there is a lot of value associated with it, that’s where you can do a 51% attack.”


As BTC Hashrate drops , a rented 51% attack becomes more feasible every day.
One only needs to rent for 1 hour to pull one off.
134  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin To Drop As Low As $1000 This Year on: December 15, 2018, 10:49:39 PM
Bitcoin To Drop As Low As $1000 This Year, Wall Street CIO Predicts
"I wouldn't be surprised if over the next year it's down to $1,000 to $3,000,"

Is this going to be real or not ?

Down to $1000 per btc in 2019 is a pretty safe bet.
135  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: QUESTIONS 51% attack possible? Is BTC dead for good? on: December 15, 2018, 08:23:35 PM
With the giant asic mining operations about to go belly up.
I see nothing stopping a super rich person or group from picking up their equipment dirt cheap at liquidation and running a 51% attack to wrek the whole network.

Thoughts please


Your Concern is Valid.


A lowering hashrate is more vulnerable to a 51% attack.

Any 51% attack on BTC, will destroy it's Market price.


All one has to do is observe Bitcoin Gold after their 51% attack, their price went down by a factor of 4X and still dropping.
136  Economy / Speculation / Re: bitcoin price breaking lows again and again on: December 15, 2018, 07:34:56 PM
bitcoin price are breaking lows again and again  i cant see any signs of bulls entering markets in charts and already Christmas and this year is ending i think still bears will be in control for some more days , but i am still hopping for a bull run soon  and holding my coins  Sad           

Don't expect any decent Bull runs for a few years.
In the meantime , lower we are going on all cryptos.

137  Economy / Speculation / Re: Jump out of the ship when it is sinking. on: December 15, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
The Entire World is entering a Global Depression similar to the 1930s.

Stocks & Crypto Prices are going lower.

138  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is it Game Over for Bitcoin? on: December 15, 2018, 07:28:30 PM

$ 1,500 all over 2019 and higher will not rise.

Seems accurate to me.  Smiley

139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: HODL for only the brave !? on: December 13, 2018, 07:46:48 AM
HODL for only the Stupid and Soon to be Broke!

FTFY,  Wink

Long Time holders are no different from Gamblers, both lose everything by waiting too long.

People that Never Sell , Never Profit!
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ★ ZEIT ★ [COMMUNITY & KNIGHTS] [ULTRA LOW INFLATION] on: December 12, 2018, 12:53:38 PM
whats the staking website for Zeitcoin .
I want to stake this coin ...

If you want to stake this coin, you have to run a wallet on your PC or Mac.
Links to the wallets are on the OP (Opening Page) of this topic.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=487814.0
Along with a blockchain snapshot & bootstrap links to speed up 1st time installations.


Thank you reply sir. but my system is very old . so i am unable to use  that . i am looking any online website for staking .
and whats is stake interest rate sir.


Their are no online websites staking at the present.
You can store them on an exchange, but if the exchange goes offline, your coins will be forfeit.

* Any Windows PC with 4 gig of ram can run the ZEITCOIN wallet, and it does not have to run continuously,
Some people only sync and stake like once a week or longer.
 
ZEIT uses an Ultra Low Interest rate of .0005% per year.
The Entire Network makes less than 500 new coins per day.

Quote
Proof of Stake
Energy Efficient
30 seconds block speed
Min. Stake Age : 24 hours
Interest on Proof of Stake:
ULI : .0005% per year
Transaction Fees are currently burned.
Maximum Transactions Capacity ~12 million transactions per day
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