Does "BitcoinDark" have any working anonymity at all? All I see is whitepaper, but no product. Seems like just another dev pump and dump to me.
Read the entire thread and draw your own conclusions. BTCD is the furthest thing from a P&D coin my friend JJ I've skimmed through many of the previous pages...there isn't even a Beta yet. So far it's all talk with no product, aka Pump and Dump. If that's your conclusion, feel free to move on : -) Further posts would seem to indicate you have the rather tiresome agenda of trying to pick a fight. Completely unnecessary. Good luck in whatever coin you feel is more worthy. |
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James, saw in the polo chat that BTCDdev is handing over the codebase to you tomorrow, haven't heard much about the gui (not your department) any chance whoever working is with the gui can post a few screenshots, give us an idea what it is looking like?
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Jame, asked this earlier, have not seen any answer:
Regarding telepod creation, you have noted several times that telepod creation will not be an attractive activity for all. Can you develop your ideas about this, what situations / conditions would make creation attractive, be it legal situation, economic entity, liability limitation, national jurisdiction etc. Thx.
maybe profit? I think there will be vendors who setup selling telepods for a markup they would have the expertise so that there are setup to be immune from foreign laws and maybe they are setting up funding via already anon source. Basically these "Teleport-station terminals" that feed into the overall teleport economy is what I think will happen. I will make some demonstration version so that anybody that wants to can set one up and they can add whatever additional protections they feel warranted. The mechanism to then have a way to trade for these telepods would be made, eg. InstantDEX tradebots, or just some alternate channel communications. For most people, I think to make a "transporter" account and then fund it from coinbase will be fine for small amounts. nobody is going to care about a few BTC being fed into the system. but of course N users * 3 BTC creates quite enough telepods for any normal level of activity. I havent worked out all the details, but it is like making the carpet and paint for a house after it is built. Without it, nobody will like it so much, but compared to the actual building of the house it is not a matter to lose sleep over. James P.S. I am hoping to have some prearranged "vending machines" for people to be able to get telepods, especially via other anon coins. send any coin to the vending machine and telepod appears in your computer. Will be interesting how much these telepods can fall under the same legal definitions as digital currency instruments, so that the jurisdictions that are developing favorably for btc will have an advantage. I like the vending machine idea. The gui keeps getting more important here. Kristov Atlas mentions at show closing that he is studying the darkpaper and will likely have something to say about it next week, might be an very opportune moment to forward him a schema of the mechanics with the onion routing, randomizing, m numbers etc. plus the ecosystem perspective. |
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Jame, asked this earlier, have not seen any answer:
Regarding telepod creation, you have noted several times that telepod creation will not be an attractive activity for all. Can you develop your ideas about this, what situations / conditions would make creation attractive, be it legal situation, economic entity, liability limitation, national jurisdiction etc. Thx.
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XMR ِDEVs even Can not to create a simple wallet. XMR Team are racialist.
Fucking their FUDs
Mate, please keep it civil. Insults like those don't help us. Counter fud with facts, like james does. Hate leads nowhere. Second this. Think back to how pleasant this thread was just a couple days ago before all the us versus them stuff got started. Don't feed the trolls. |
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My impression from listening to other devs talk about BTCD & teleporting in various irc chats is that teleporting is not well understood enough yet for most of these devs to be near the subsequent step of seeing the benefits of linkage.
I would think an private invite-only google hangout session run by someone who is skilled at running hangouts might be the way to bridge that gap. Those devs who could make it live could pepper as many questions as they like, and the archived session could be made available to other devs afterwards by request. I can recommend a few people who are good at hosting such sessions.
Another question:
If I understand correctly, the advantage with a coin integrating via the dev route is that then the teleporting transaction can be trusted and the mathamatical anon is multiplied. For users / coins who do not have this teleportal prewired in the BTCD system, the default path will be thru instadex, right?
If this is the case, how closely woven will the gui and instadex be within the BTCD implementation? Will it be close to a one-stop user experience or will these things remain quite seperate for coins / users from outside BTCD?
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Teleport - port = Teleportal?
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James man we can ranch the trolls, code on bro : -)
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Troll! In our thread! Look everyone! : -)
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That could be very useful, as different voices reach different ears.
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wow i am glad that post got deleted : -)
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What a great irc chat. Feels like listening in to Einstein & Bohr.
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And we should be glad for red team feedback : -)
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Currently in the #CryptoTA irc:
<CHAOSiTEC> fivexcts: ive looked it over, its a trusted system... which means there can be ppl taking advancement of it
<fivexcts> where exactly do you see the weaklink?
<CHAOSiTEC> when destroying and recreating coins, the path can be followed... so either you have to do trust, or coinjoin, what this looks like is just an alternate version of coinjoin
anyone want to chime in?
Uh oh, this is bad news. doubt it. but i would like it if someone more qualified than me would join the convo : -) Chaositec is a smart guy, he is in here checking the diagrams right now. |
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Currently in the #CryptoTA irc:
<CHAOSiTEC> fivexcts: ive looked it over, its a trusted system... which means there can be ppl taking advancement of it
<fivexcts> where exactly do you see the weaklink?
<CHAOSiTEC> when destroying and recreating coins, the path can be followed... so either you have to do trust, or coinjoin, what this looks like is just an alternate version of coinjoin
anyone want to chime in?
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Bit of a discussion on BTCD in the #CryptoTA irc if anyone wants to join in.
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James
I understand your thinking about 'why would people use a knockoff' but i have to say, i think there will be a massive wave of clones once your concept enters public beta. Perhaps this should be a very serious working assumption in the strategic road map.
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fixed that. others should add to it. : -) |
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Trollboxers are convinced that because there has not been a big dump since the 20's there is one whale buying & selling back & forth to himself to create this price rise, and the end is nigh.
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Bittrex down?
hehe bittrex goin up up up : -) |
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