Firstly, every business or investment have it own risk involving but i will advice you to be more careful because the EOS betting dApp had a hack issue last year and I'm not sure if it totally safe now.
Aside that, I believed setting limit and stick to it via match betting is the best/easier profitable betting strategy.
Good point. I read about some of the problems EOS has had. It seems like a pretty 'messy' blockchain right now, if you know what I mean? It does feel like it has some way to go before maturing re security flaws etc. |
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I'm not sure I agree. I think if you have taken time to choose a good, profitable tipster, you should probably just stick with their tips. If you mix in your own research.... then you'll end up sometimes not following the tipster... which makes it all pointless.
You can always stick to them in thick and thin times. It's just a tip that I've said that you can do your own research and not fully depending on them. At the end of the day, you are still the one to decide whether you want to follow him or not. Er.... how do you know when the thin times are coming and stop following? And... how do you know when the thick times are coming back and start following again? |
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Following a tipster sometimes isn't worth it but if you are a typical gambler that doesn't fully depend to a tipster, it's a good idea to take their predictions.
Like you will get those important predictions that you think is good to bet with but if you think its not,then simply don't.
just like sport betting some tipsters aren't always right. if you see the track record of course they have lost several times right. if you want more chance of win you can buy f*xed score. but you have dare to take risks for this Yes, not all the time they are right. It's all about the accuracy and you can depend with them, if win is higher than losses then the accuracy of that tipster is good to follow. Accuracy is very important for following a certain tipster and if you are a bettor you will find these tips very interesting.You can follow out specially if there are analysis on each bets being given.There are lots of tipster as of this moment having 60-80% winning percentage which is actually good where you can tail them up if you wanted to. I guess more than 50% is already enough for someone that isn't aware of this kind of tipping. But as much as possible, if you are into tipsters at the same time do your own research about the match that you are betting. I'm not sure I agree. I think if you have taken time to choose a good, profitable tipster, you should probably just stick with their tips. If you mix in your own research.... then you'll end up sometimes not following the tipster... which makes it all pointless. |
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Of course not. Perhaps I'll just go to other country wherein gambling there is legal to avoid violation on the law of the government. Otherwise, I'll find other way at the same time it's legal.
I'm lucky that gambling is allowed here, otherwise, I won't go into my gambling activities because I don't want to have an issue with the authorities here. But this got me thinking, perhaps I will go and try to bet underground, hehehe. But I would not have to be very active though, might try to bet a few and then get out. So it's going to be a hard decision on my end whether to continue gambling or not. Do you gamble with crypto? If you do, my question is "Why?".... if it is legal for you to gamble, why do you use crypto? Why not just use fiat? |
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It's because gambling with fiat for me, is more expensive. Another reason is that, I'm easily getting tired of waiting so I can sit for the game that I want. Unlike gambling with crypto, I'm very free to play anytime I want.
This is going to be the main answer that you see on here. Plus the fact that: 1. Online gambling could be banned in a certain countries, crypto is a way to circumvent this. 2. You can gamble anonymously, and your CC company / family won't know (not saying if this is a good or bad thing) 3. Fees are going to be much lower. Sorry, I don't understand. Why is fiat gambling more expensive? Hope you can help me understand! Thanks |
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Following a tipster sometimes isn't worth it but if you are a typical gambler that doesn't fully depend to a tipster, it's a good idea to take their predictions.
Like you will get those important predictions that you think is good to bet with but if you think its not,then simply don't.
just like sport betting some tipsters aren't always right. if you see the track record of course they have lost several times right. if you want more chance of win you can buy f*xed score. but you have dare to take risks for this Yes, not all the time they are right. It's all about the accuracy and you can depend with them, if win is higher than losses then the accuracy of that tipster is good to follow. Accuracy is very important for following a certain tipster and if you are a bettor you will find these tips very interesting.You can follow out specially if there are analysis on each bets being given.There are lots of tipster as of this moment having 60-80% winning percentage which is actually good where you can tail them up if you wanted to. Sorry, you make it sound like it's easy finding a profitable tipster to follow. It isn't. Also, even if you did find a tipster with "60-80% winning percentage", you would still be losing if you were backing at average odds of e.g. 1.20. I suggest you think about this a bit more carefully for your own sake. |
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Lol. This is too much but yeah its convincing. I also disagree that Martingale works because i lose money before because I tried to do this and then after that, I don’t used any strategies. Maybe in gambling, some strategies will work fine on your first try but it will not last since the house will always win. You're right, it was too much lol. But there is no other answer. Of course, for new people to the question... it can always be interesting to explore in theory. But we need to be very clear - martingale is not a good real-life idea. |
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commission in both of Orbit and 9wickets is 3% on winnings , which is lower than the standard betfair but as I understood from support commissions don't get lower lower even if you wager hundred of thousands with them unlike betfair where high rollers get discounts
Also ,do you know if can we gain api access to the exchange through Asianconnect pls? I couldn't find any info regards api access on their site? 9wickets say explicitly that they don't provide API access. I assume Orbit is the same deal, but maybe SyGambler knows. To be honest, without API access, an exchange is useful but still more of a glorified sportsbook than anything. Being able to Lay a bet is great, and the prices can be good... but without API access, 90% of the really interesting exchange activity is not possible, including market making and HFT. |
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Hard match for both team, in the last 5 matches, Liverpool can't win against Man United at Old Trafford and Man United still unbeaten with the new manager solskjaer on premier league. On the other hand, Liverpool needs this win so bad to get back the top position. I think over 2.5 goals should be easy on that match, 1-2 for Liverpool!
I think Liverpool will be happy enough with a draw against Man Utd this weekend. A loss would be painful, but the extra point along with preserving some kind of momentum would do them very nicely. |
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Of course if you can bring a lot of traffic, referral is a no-brainer but i don't think that it is considered gambling more than in the sense you don't know how many results you will get and when.
Agreed. I probably shouldn't have allowed referral/affiliate work into the final list.. it is *not* gambling/betting as you say. It is business. I guess it depends how you look at it. The time you spend is valuable and it is a gamble that your time will be worthwhile or not. Not everything should be looked at in terms of money. Affiliates is not that bad but of course its not about betting anymore, maybe it can just as an other source of income through gambling site. Well, if there's an easiest way to make profit on betting, I think no one is losing now. Technically, this poll can help but we know betting is just a game of luck between the teams so don't depend to anyone. No, it's not betting any more, you are right. Probably I should have removed that option for the poll.... |
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Follow a Tipster/Handicapper Before I knew how to play sport betting often depending on a tipster there were not many wins that I got from them. So over time by trying to make my own bet, I am more sure of course by taking more potential team even though the odds are low. I agree. *Following* a tipster is easy... but finding a *good* one is not easy. And usually expensive. I tried following a horse racing tipster about 20 years ago... it did not end well. At least if you make your own judgements, you have no one to blame but yourself. It also makes the matches more interesting to watch! |
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bumping this to get the some more poll votes...
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Tough question this, so many terrible moments to choose from!
Actually, a good general answer is - any time I lose and a friend wins in the same match or race. I have to say well done, and look pleased for them etc etc, when I just want to push them down a long flight of stairs lol.
Will have a think and try to find a more precise example.
Don't be jealous of your friends then you won't get you luck on any day.  Next time you just bet on the game that your friend is also betting with the same amount then you both either win or lose.  Good advice! However... I like winning when my friend loses... Maybe I am just not a very nice person |
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Yes it is, who doesn't want this. You can gamble anytime, anywhere as long as you have phone and data connection. Crypto gambling get boom now but crypto gambling will be more successful in the near future. I won't be surprised if there's a lot of gambling websites that will appear soon.
Yeah actually it can be a negative and positive effect in my opinion, how easy is someone to gamble without any prohibition from anyone because it is easy for someone to find gambling sites on the internet that use crypto payments, but that can also be a bad thing, because anyone including kids will gamble easily? people will increasingly become addicts because of the ease of gambling? I don't think its that easy that anyone can easily acquire Crypto and then gamble with it and become addicted, especially kids. For one, even though Bitcoin is well known and very popular especially since 2017, its still very difficult for the average user to buy it. People go to bitcoin ATMs locally and they actually have no idea how to even get these bitcoins, they think they are suppose to get something physical like paper money (happened to me last time I saw a confused person at the bitcoin ATM) With kids its even harder since they can't use an exchange like Coinbase and even if they use an bitcoin ATM, they need to have money first and most kids have little money. Most people need some general computing knowledge to be able to buy bitcoin and use it, especially on a gambling site. There are ways easier ways to gamble like with the Lotto or Scratch-off tickets. I've been thinking about this - Crypto is great in so many ways BUT... how do you protect children (under 18s) from using crypto for gambling? I don't think you can make it work 100%, but this post is the best opinion I have seen so far about how crypto is effectively pretty difficult for most kids to even get hold of crypto. Basically if you want to buy fiat with crypto, you have to get on an exchange and most exchanges have quite strict KYC for fiat to crypto trades. So this solves the problem to some extent - you could say that the fiat-crypto entry point acts as a kind of KYC for the whole crypto landscape after that point. Do people agree? Or am I being naive (I assume there are loads of kids who *could* and *will* get round this, bt the same could be said for fiat gambling or smoking or etc etc). |
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Tough question this, so many terrible moments to choose from!
Actually, a good general answer is - any time I lose and a friend wins in the same match or race. I have to say well done, and look pleased for them etc etc, when I just want to push them down a long flight of stairs lol.
Will have a think and try to find a more precise example.
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I know you are not looking to promote anything, do not worry,,, I did not think that. And I agree that Fairlay website does not really look very friendly, it took me quite a while to understand how to use it, and the fee structure is very confusing if you do not read it properly.
Bet matching errors are common with new platforms just like as Betfair used to face, so that is only natural.
Bitcoin is still tough to understand for technical people, so they are surely doing their best but we just have to be patient. I mean look at even normal exchanges they are still so terrible in general even years after Bitcoin being in existence!
Sure, it takes time to get the bugs out of new platforms. I think Fairlay has been around for years now, so should be getting the basic bet matching right. But good luck to them. Agree about crypto in general.. it's not a customer-friendly space yet from what I have seen. And you make a good point about crypto exchanges - they have been around for years, and are the foundation of the hole system.. but so many of them are awful products. |
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commission in both of Orbit and 9wickets is 3% on winnings , which is lower than the standard betfair but as I understood from support commissions don't get lower lower even if you wager hundred of thousands with them unlike betfair where high rollers get discounts
I didn't get what you mean about premium charge , can you explain it ?
3% is not too bad given what you are getting (i.e. access to Betfair markets with BTC and no KYC). Premium Charge is an *extra* fee that Betfair charge long-term winners. They introduced it years ago, this is from their website: https://en-betfair.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/6156/~/premium-charge---what-is-it%3F-will-i-need-to-pay-it%3FBasically, it was introduced to take a bigger chunk of the profits their professional users were making. And because of their market position it is something a lot of very unhappy Betfair pros have had to put up with. A source of continued irritation to most. |
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I had really high hopes for OneHash. Check it out and you'll see what I mean. Design wise, far ahead of say fairlay, and really smooth navigation.
Only issue is very poor size of orders, and very limited markets, at least that would interest me.
They appear to be trying hard to gain users and volume so am always hopeful but if it took Betfair ages, not sure when we can expect the same. Got to focus on users for Bitcoin first I guess.
Funny, I had looked at OneHash some time ago, and thought then that it had been an exchange that had turned into a sportsbook. But it's an exchange? OK.. I feel thick now... How do you lay a bet or see the orderbook? |
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