All next big gpus will be similar in memory bandwidth So perf will be similar (we will know when polaris is tested - I dont know if i can but I think i'll get it before launch - maybe around 20th of june) So its just the matter who is early and what is the price But its not pure memory bandwidth question as you all know - fury x is far from 60mhs - am i wrong? |
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I like your argument that the 1070 will ROI a bit earlier due to the fact that you can mine with it very soon.
That is mainly because the difficulty is rising too fast. If you get the card now, you can mine at lower difficulty. Possibly the best thing to do if you have the funds is buy a couple mine, and release at RX 480 release and lose about $100 per from new price but probably mine much more than worth it by then. For me its also a farms location power budget - if i add only ~ 750w instead of 1050w ist the matter of farm having 2 additinal rigs or 1 Of course if nano drops in price that would be good - but if its not happaning immidiatly on 10th of june thats roi question again and newer gpu alway preferable |
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still you didn't provide the proof of those 30MH with 480x, i see no confirmation on that hashrate, cryptoblog still say that it need to be tested
Nobody has STATED that the RX 480 will mine 30 MH - we're just speculating and estimating based on the published specs. IMO more likely it will be a 22-25MH card - but at the PRICE and at the probable power consumption that's a very nice place to be. After all, my 290s are legitimate 30MH cards - but they also eat upwards of 200 watts even WITH modified The Stilt bios on them (probably closer to 250) - so while they were inexpensive (sub-$200 from the Newegg "refurbs" sale a bit back) and have a fairly good chance to achieve ROI just from ETH mining, they're not exactly cool running nor highly efficient. So 1070 is availible on june 10th its 449$ founders edition (i think it a good design for mining - memory is thermo paded and cooled properly, fan blower is heavy duty and will last longer than som of the custom design boards) and it is garanteed to do 27mhs at ~100w 480 will do 27mhs tops (we dont know their memory controller settings, memory config in general etc) and its big unknown what the consumption is but 8gb version is around ~250$ So if preorder 1070 you will roi at least 50$ in time 480 will be availible Now if there will be price cuts for nano - it depends what it will be - but its 4gb and resale value is lower vs 1070 Im personally getting at least 1 rig with 6x1070s |
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the wattmeter report 628 w right? so removing 90w x 6 is 540, 88 watt for the system alone? seems too much
I have 21w in 3 noctua fans at 3000rpm each Again - the hash will improve for 1080 - but the 1070 does 27mhs at 100w - do your math it is all most impossible for me to get my hands on 1070 at this time... irritating. It should be availible on 10th of june - i just give you guys the numbers There should be price cuts for nano - but when and for how much - thats a question There also will be 480 - the model with 8gb will be ~250$ and the hash might be the same 27mhs or less (we dont know how their memory controller will be tuned, what it will consume at top hash, speed in other algos) So basiclly if you preorder 1070 now and get these - in time 480 will hit the market you'll get at least 50$ roi on 1070 - and we dont know the board design for 480 - if its not partner boards but what they showed on public - you will get premium in terns of cooling and board design - memory in 1070 fe board is thermo paded and cooled properly - so im preordering at least 1 rig with 6x1070 |
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the wattmeter report 628 w right? so removing 90w x 6 is 540, 88 watt for the system alone? seems too much
I have 21w in 3 noctua fans at 3000rpm each Again - the hash will improve for 1080 - but the 1070 does 27mhs at 100w - do your math |
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Nice, thank you for sharing!
138/6=23mh at 90w.
There should be more - i think its possible to fix this for 1080 but the best thing that 1070 is 25-26mhs at 90w |
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Pretty cool. Please post hash rate logs or screenshot plz. Maybe ethminer -G --list-devices too. I'm considering buying a 1080 for shits and giggles. Pleas note guys...its not just for ethereum usage either  Check 1070/1080 thread for other pics |
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Some pic as requested...  At the wall with 90w power limit - that is 6x1080  138mhs at 90w power limit - keep in mind - there will be perf improvement but i dont know if its worth it..  The rig - actually there will be 1070s there in few weeks  |
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If you want to see 6x1080 rig - you can go to 1070/1080 thread...
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I've seen the other post of the 27mh on 1070.
There is zero evidence to backup his claim.
Until I see pictures or posts from a trusted user then I will remain suspicious.
I do respect the community - i'll post the picture of the rig with 6 1080s running on windows It will be nice to gain a point of trust in exchange though Please do so at your earliest convenience, I am debating between Nanos and 1080s. You should consider 1070 - even if they fix the perf - still 1070 is a better buy - i dont have one at the moment - but 6 1080 should look nice |
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I've seen the other post of the 27mh on 1070.
There is zero evidence to backup his claim.
Until I see pictures or posts from a trusted user then I will remain suspicious.
I do respect the community - i'll post the picture of the rig with 6 1080s running on windows It will be nice to gain a point of trust in exchange though |
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vaulter, do you happen to have any donation address?
No, but you can use Genoil's |
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and there is not such thing as free power, that is called stealing, not possible here, efficiency matter more for me than initial investment
In my country the power is $0.05 a kwh in the summertime. A 290x will use $0.3 a day and make $5. If the power is cut to 130w u save $0.15. it's cut to 100w which mean 160w saved = almost 4kw a day saved, in your case only $0.2 a day saved = $6 a month saved for each card(if you have a farm, like 100 gpu, this is still huge saving) but not everyone has 0.05 electricity, for those that have 0.1 or 0.2, consumption matter more btw were do you live with 0.05 electricty? i know that in some of those place with cheap electricity, their cost of living is high, like in iceland Here are the new numbers and this time its for windows (will tell more in a week or so) I was able to use beta afterburner and minimum tdp is 75w - at this point without boosting clocks to your 970 style (+150 gpu and +150 mem) just stock its 20mhs at stock with 90w it is 26mhs and at 100w its 27mhs If you boost clocks +150 both it is 26mhs at 85 and 27mhs at 90W Its also true for any other algo (+150 clocks) - 24mhs Quark 14mhs lyrare2v 11mhs x11evo at 100w Neoscrypt was 620khs at 110w But thats all with not final board - when have a chance I'll run the numbers on the final board BTW - I tested with power meter this time - nv-smi is really accurate with pascal As with 1080 - for now - no news - it is possible that things will improve much but so far no change As for changing the mining world - I think it does in a way that nano prices should go down, and 480 is a big question - for me its interesting on the compute side - how it does in other than eth algos But because we all know what eth does on top boards - with new gpus it should be dual algo era - SP might comment on possibilities to implement other algos beside decred |
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and there is not such thing as free power, that is called stealing, not possible here, efficiency matter more for me than initial investment
In my country the power is $0.05 a kwh in the summertime. A 290x will use $0.3 a day and make $5. If the power is cut to 130w u save $0.15. it's cut to 100w which mean 160w saved = almost 4kw a day saved, in your case only $0.2 a day saved = $6 a month saved for each card(if you have a farm, like 100 gpu, this is still huge saving) but not everyone has 0.05 electricity, for those that ahve 0.1 or 0.2, consumption matter more btw were do you live with 0.05 electricty? i know that in some of those place with cheap electricity, their cost of living is high, like in iceland I think more important is that you can scale up at the same power budget - that is the most essential - but i agree thst we need to see both 1060 and 480 - 1060 can be new 750ti |
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Some more 1070 info -
I did lowered power limit to 100W (which should result in less then 110W real world consumption)
Quark 24mhs
LyrareV2 14mhs
Neoscrypt 900khs
x11 evo is 10mhs (13.5mhs for 1080)
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The problem here is the memory bandwidth - you are going to see the same for 480
So hitting this limit you can ether go dual miner way and utilize the board to its max or drop GPU voltage and/or clocks to see if you have same hashrate
Basically you can hash at the same speed with less power used
So it was all about that 512 against 256 mem band? I guess there will be no cheap 290's anymore... Not exactly - of course raw bus make an impact but its also dependent on algo - I think dual miner will be better for nv vs amd - we'll see if it happens in near future Hmm.. for me it looks like dcr pow mining days are gone... I thought dual mining was Amd only Its entirely possible with ethereum - just needs some efforts from developers - amd is far more popular that's why you have dual miner for 10xx series I think other algos are possible for dual miner (not dcr) - Dev Guys should comment here... |
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I am quite skeptical if this review is legitimate.
Please post pics + screenshots of the 1070 && 27mh/s
I need to get wattmeter and several boards to get exact numbers for people following this topic - don't know when Ill have a chance But just for the records - what happened to the term trust? |
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how many mh/s is linux netting with what kind of power draw?
23.7 mhs on 1080 - at 140w - but I need to test with power limit lowered - I think its 99% that it can hash the same at 100w level - will report tomorrow its 26.7 mhs for 1070 - so there maybe a fix for 1080 - need to investigate |
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hello, its not working for me on gtx 1080 this is what the log says: i 20:36:58|cudaminer0 Initialising miner…
Using device: GeForce GTX 1080 (Compute 6.1)
Cuda error in func ‘set_constants’ at line 128 : invalid device symbol. is there something i can do to make this work? Which zip have you downloaded from where? You need one of the 1.1.x zips from the 110 branch. But it won't be fast on Windows, I can tell you that. alright, this seems to be my mistake. i have now downloaded the ethminer-0.9.41-genoil-1.1.2.zip from branch 110 as you said. it is working. The Hashrate on the gtx 1080 is about 4.19 MH/s. Is this a rate you expected or is still something wrong? Thanks in advance You need Linux if you want to mine eth now, later there will be a driver for win7/8 and in July its possible that it will be avalible on win 10 |
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hello, its not working for me on gtx 1080 this is what the log says: i 20:36:58|cudaminer0 Initialising miner…
Using device: GeForce GTX 1080 (Compute 6.1)
Cuda error in func ‘set_constants’ at line 128 : invalid device symbol. is there something i can do to make this work? Which zip have you downloaded from where? You need one of the 1.1.x zips from the 110 branch. But it won't be fast on Windows, I can tell you that. Not yet |
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