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Another week has pass and radio silence from LTC casino, not official game provider statement shared.
No updates and not evidence against me provided, they are keeping my money without reasons and the casino refuses to communicate with me directly.
Shame on them.
The villains always wins.
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If you create multiple scam accusation for same case then that will not help you anyway and that will be called as a spam. If you have any information then you shout update that on the starting post and/or the last post of you on the scam accusation should be edited.
Hi there, i have simply followed users advises as i initially made a post then i was advised to to open a scam accusation and the post was closed and i open another and the last one i followed another user and open a flag. i do not have much experience and i have been following other OP advises , didn't mean to spam or anything like that. Everyone give different advise and i am trying to trust people who know better than me. So what i shall I do now? Delete the last one and update the first one? |
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I truly hope i am wrong. I just think they are trying to gain time so that people forget about this case, when a scammers cheat at some casino it doesn't take long for the scammers to be discovered, and in this case not even the provider said you cheated and the casino is taking a lot time to show proof that you cheated, it shows that they can't find anything. let's wait 3 weeks before we start labeling them as scammers. Until then I recommend that anyone don't use this casino, they are unprofessional and slow to resolve customer issues. This is exactly what i think, they are tying to make this case forgotten , they say investigations are up to 3 months and there is not way it would take 3 months to investigate especially when the game provide has send them an official statement and they are refusing to share it because obviously they do not have evidence themselves, and so far two different parties are saying i didn't cheat ( they have nothing to gain to lie) while the casino sharing the official statement they will have to admit they are just trying not to pay and carry on their business and do to others what they are doing to me. Also look when they they open their annual tread the LTC rep was so fast at responding people in order to appeal to new clients but now he barely shows up in this site because he doesn't want to face the reality and they have nothing to show to back up their assumptions. If they had even a little evidence of me cheating it would have been all over the site by now. |
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This deposits are only for the first account and one can see opening date and cooling off date too, to actually put every single transactions s going to be looooong!!
You don't have to post all the transactions you made. Just post the information that you think are relevant and can serve as evidence to support your claim. As I can see the flag is still inactive and no one has supported it. I believe all who are aware of this accusation are still waiting for ltc casino reply and for their final decision. I hope this issue will be resolved asap. I truly hope the casino just going to send updates, i have worked very hard to prove my innocence and i just hope they will at least show what the game provider official statement says. I am losing hope to be honest because is well over a month now and they only provide assumption ad they are denying what the third parties such a Wazdan and casino guru have investigated. I am not a tech savvy but i would have imagine with so many years of experience as they brag to have in the gambling industry they do not have the means and tools to verify one player who opened the account for only 2 months. If they are waiting to find something dodgy from my side they will have to wait forever and this is my fear , they will not accept to pay a big win. I truly hope i am wrong. |
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Take your time and read the pages of this thread before you decide to support or not to support this flag. I know you've already created several threads on this subject, but at least in this thread use the proper format: Scam Report Format (Use it to make scam reports properly)and put all the proof, then we will see if there will be many people supporting you, although I am very angry with their delay in solving your case, I am waiting another week or two to see if they will solve your case hi there, i am going to fill this form. does it have to be all 15k transactions as its an hell of a lot of transactions ? i have so many deposit and also copies of the email from ltc casino with the deposits received. Regarding the delay by now i really thought after their suspect which they could be understandable since they had a issue with another provider after well over a month they should at least share the Official statement form WAdzan. At the end of the day there is so much one can investigate but at one point if nothing is found they must put their hands in their heart and just accept that sometimes even a player can win and not always the casino. This deposits are only for the first account and one can see opening date and cooling off date too, to actually put every single transactions s going to be looooong!! https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqchttps://imgur.com/a/Ib5vNPm I have many more of this transactions. but this to give an idea of the fact that tons of deposits were made by me and iam a genuine players not a scammer who deposited 50 punds and tricked with a bug like the casino is suspecting. |
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Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement? I guess because Felix slots had a vulnerability that was only discovered after a thorough investigation. If I remember it correctly, Felix representatives didn't want to admit there were any issues with their games and only did it after an investigation showed that something weird was going on. LTC Gaming might be trying to draw a parallel between the two gaming providers thinking something similar might have happened to Wazdan as well. The LTC Casino rep responded to my PM. They haven't sent any proof. They only wrote what Wazdan apparently told them: "We checked everything, the possibility to win jackpot is 1 to 1000000" They claim the provider didn't send anything else. This is a quote of my second PM I sent them a minute ago as a response to their PM: So share that correspondence in the thread please so that the issue can be moved from point 0 and we can figure out who is telling the truth and who isn't. Post some proof. The OP has posted several emails from Wazdan claiming they gave you everything you requested. Can you show us what you received from Wazdan and what follow up questions you had? The game provider has been clear in their email they have send their official statement so why the casino doesn't admit that? They don't have to share their correspondence but at least their official statement even if is not what they want to hear. Just because someone cheated does mean now we are all cheater and players now know that the casino thinks is impossible you can win big to the point that anyone that will win a big amount will have to go through this hell! So much fun! Not only their withdrawals limits are super low but u must wish the casino pays you and wait months before that and if happens. As i said i have nothing to hide because i did not cheat and game provider and casino guru found nothing and please nobody can convince a casino that brags to have so much experience doesn't have someone professional to check on their side. In a month time ?? What disturbs me the most are the lies , because they do have this statement an if the game provider made one they would be accurate because one would think that they would take responsibilities if it wasn't accurate. All i ask is transparency and you can't deny they are acting shady because they don't want to share the official statement of the game provider. Thanks for sharing and get in contact with them really appreciated. Let's see what excuse they come next. Now the game provider wants a feedback from the casino for their false info about their company. I don't know who's lying but i know is not me and to be honest why the game provider would lie? Or casino guru? Let's see when and what LTC casino will come with this time , it's like a soap opera! |
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The results were sent 4 days ago and do you really think if the game provider would have found illegal activities the casino wouldn't have already shared the finding to clear their name?
Not true. I said you tens of times that provider did not give us answers for our questions. Not yet. Not true, check what game provider emailed this morning,share the statment they send you !! Here we go: https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk
Also the game history of all 4 accounts was sent to the casino guru rep and he said the game history had nothing out of the ordinary, you can check yourself in the casino guru complaint i ve raised.
Not true. He was provided by history of one of your accounts, but it really does not matter in this case. Here is information only about time and amount of bet/win. No information about the volatility changes, auto-spin activation etc., so this is almost pulic information that does not matter for investigation. So why you send only one account? they checked what you sent and they said there was noting of the ordinary. People can check at casino guru if i am lying. I wonder what if they had 10 customers with the same problem? how many centuries would these 10 customers have to wait to have a solution to their problem?
Impossible. For more than 5 years in industry we meet player playing ONLY ONE SLOT from not popular provider from 4 different accounts and winning three jackpots in a row. It is absolutly irregular case. jackpot was not on a row, first one was 2 motnhs prior and last two within a day of difference, please be precise as it was not on a row.
Spot om!!! couldn't have said better.
They have received a reply from the game provider 4 days ago and if the game provided would have found some cheatimg they would have post it straightaway.
Not true. I told you many times that provider did not answer our questions. Yes they did. https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk share their statement sent last week.
You have already waited over a month. let's wait for their reply. I hope they will come up with a good solution. Since the provider said there is nothing wrong with you, Let's see what LTC Casino says about your bets and winnings. If they fail to give proper answers, They have to pay your winnings. If they don't pay your winnings or fail to give a answer about why they delays, You could create a Flag and ask DT members to support it.
What are you talking about? We did nit break any of our rules. We have three months for investigation. Player AGREED with this rule when started playing. All we want is just to protect out business from abusing by scammers (like here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5385638.msg59245546#msg59245546). P.S. I kindly ask to use special thread for discussing this complaint ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59534144#msg59534144). After the case you are welcome to publish your opinion even here but now there is a special place. I hope Ltc casino can come back with a good excuse not to share the wazdan statement sent by them last week. Let's play clean LTc rep shall we? And again ; https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGk |
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The casino now must show the correspondence I agree, and that's what I said in my previous post. It would be a good idea if they showed what Wazdan sent them and what further data they are requesting and talking about. I will PM their casino rep and see if they respond. Why the game provider would say so? I am not a psychologist. I read and interpret what is written in this thread and the way it's written. I can't read anyone's mind and understand what agenda or motives they have. The only way for them to prove their good faith is to share what the game provider has sent them. They clearly saying the casino is lying and they said they send them a statement. Why LTC casino shares in my posts Felix statement which has nothing to do with me and is irrelevant to my case as it is also a different provider an dnot what really matters in this case which is WAZDAN statement? They send it last week so they had plenty of time. If they want to be trusted they can simply show at least the statement sent by Wazdan, they are not sending it because it will show the integrity of the casino. The casino is right on one thing, there is a lot of scammers , sadly in this instance is not me. |
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PLEASE WATCH WHAT THE GAME PROVIDER EMAILED ME THIS MORNING!!!! https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGkThis is what i received this morning from WAZDAN support team. LTC casino should now share the game provider statement as they have show the Felix statement when they found cheating. Hopefully someone will tag the rep and see what he says . |
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I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot.
am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game? You didn't understand what they said in the same way you don't understand anything I have been saying and instead you accuse me of making you look like a victim. If you are talking about this screenshot ( https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWn), your understanding of what it says is completely wrong. LTC Casino didn't say that they only asked what the probability of winning the jackpot is. They wrote that Wazdan only sent them that piece of information, but they requested additional data. That's what the post says. If you look at the second paragraph, you will see it's similar to what I told you in terms of being patient. If you have nothing to hide, that's what the investigation will hopefully show. Trying to pressurize them will likely not work and there is nothing anyone here can do to speed up that process. Having said that, it would be a good thing if LTC Casino can make public at least parts of the emails where we can see that they requested additional data from the provider. @LTC Casino, can you do that? Have a look at this ,i have received this this morning from Wazdan support team. They are definitely better than the casino at reply and communicate. https://imgur.com/a/dukcxGkThe Game provider is now emailing a strong statement and your opinion is irrelevant , not free interpretation. I The casino now must show the correspondence and by the way i show them what the casino has written so spare me your preaching as it so clear what they are doing. Why the game provider would say so? The Casino reputation is now hanging on the game provider exchange of emails. I am now convinced that they are lying ,and the only reason to prove me wrong and the community now is to be transparent about it. |
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can someone please read this response form LTc casino in lbc forum? I was under the impression that Ltc casino said they had more questions for the game provider but here in LBc site they are stating that they only asked the probability of winning the jackpot. am i really not understanding or they are playing a mind game? Can a third party explain to me what LtC means with this post? Also why i have to be treated like someone that scammed the casino with another provider if they do not have any proves against me? Please read what LTC casino wrote and please explain if they are not being contradictory on their last post as now the game provider opinion means nothing at all but till last week it was all they were waiting for. https://imgur.com/a/lV1CnWnAnyone more clever than me can pls explain?? Thank you. Ps this is the last email sent by the game provider https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjTthe 28/03/2022 |
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you might want to share the link to your flag against ltc casino. also, as far as I know, flags cannot be deleted(please correct me if I am wrong), but the flag you created will only be activated once enough DT members(you'll need 3 DT members to support your flag) support it. FLAG: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3408346 i hope the site will solve the situation and i'll be happy to remove the flag if they do. |
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Take your time and read the pages of this thread before you decide to support or not to support this flag. Their behavior raised many red flags and unless LTC wants to share the game provider findings and give real updates about the scam accusation i have opened this flag will not be withdrawn. What happened: I have won a 1496Ltc at Ltc casino after winning twice the jackpots within days one of which was won with max bet after spending well over 15k in this site from January first till end of Feb. The casino said i have won 3 jackpots on a row which is not true i have won a small jackpot at the beginning when i first signed in and lost all the money and the last two were within days after play lot of money and spent lot of time playing the same slot . The casino has blocked my account after winning 900Ltc biggest jackpot and never contacted me to even let me know that they kept my winnings and blocked me and i had to open various complaints to get the management attentions as even the chat provider kept me in the dark. The casino, only then, they told me that my account was under investigation. It is over a month and even-tough the game provider has done the checks and send them an official statement they are refusing to share the game provider findings and also the game history inspection made by casino guru rep, which also found nothing out of the ordinary. Scammers Profile Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3408346Reference Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59516351#msg59516351Amount Scammed: 1496LTC Payment Method: LTC Proof of Payment: https://imgur.com/a/OExGxqchttps://imgur.com/a/Ib5vNPm PM/Chat Logs: Management never reply directly to me but only via the sites where i actually complained, all their answer are in the reference link. Additional Notes:Please check my scam accusation post to find all the proves i have posted. I advise you to not deal with this user until this dispute is resolved. |
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I have managed to open a flag aganist Ltc casino, i'll be happy to remove it once the casino comes out clean and pay the winnings or shares the game provider findings.
If anyone want to help me and warn other players in order to prevent situations like that i would really appreciate it.
The gambling community shouldn't let casinos run wild and act in such ways.
It has been over a month and without evidence they are keeping my money.
Not cool.
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the provider insists that there was no malfunction during the specified rounds
This is when you should have payed the player. You asked the provider to investigate, they investigated. It's been over a month now. If wazden hasn't found anything, you need to pay the player. It's impossible to prove the player did not cheat, but if they did, I would expect that your casino wouldn't be the only site they decided to cheat on, and Wazden would have reports from other casinos if they didn't notice themselves. The fact that most of your points and 'questions' for the provider are irrelevant make me think you're just looking for any excuse not to pay. They asked also for second checks and nothing was found, yet the casino made up that the game provider didn't answers to some made up questions after a months of investigations!! The game provider confirmed that the all it was asked was sent and they are done in their ends. The casino is now simply lying and making excuses , and if they are not they can simply build they reputation now sharing the game provider findings. They are not doing it because they know they should pay the winnings and it is clear they don't want to. So far the big wins in this forums seem like shillings from people that work for the casino , everyone knows it!! This is their moment to show to people that real winners will get paid, as if they are not is just another rogue casino with not license praying into innocent gamblers. This casino give casino crypto a bad name. See how the casino has stop replying but they were very acting when they were trying to get new players. I hope nobody plays there till they sort this mess. |
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I am really sorry to hear that player has lost all his winnings. Also I have to confirm that we really had some page cache issues and it made some problems with payouts. It goes without saying that is was not a kind of trick from our side, it was a real technical issue. As I said before - we always pay winnings. Few more words responding to some comments here about our financial solvency. LTC Casino is a new brand but it is run by the same team like three other non-crypto casinos working since 2015 (TTR Casino, Surf Casino, DLX Casino). Owner of all those casinos including LTC is public person, well-known blogger and casino streamer Andrey "TTR" Nikolaev. You may contact him directly and ask any question, here is his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ttrandrey and YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTTIyGuNPmRZ-Fm9lhPBOaAHe is noname in crypto community but he is well-known in gambling. You will never find any issue about unpaid winnings in his casinos. And that is one of the reasons for us to have withdrawal limits - WE PAY WINNINGS. If other casinos may keep in mind to go bankrupt, just dissapear of create fake reason to avoind paying winnings, owner of LTC Casino is public person and he is charge of fair payments. Going back to those who wrote that we are not going to pay OP's winning. Andrey "TTR" is multi-millionaire and such comment just make laughing anyone who knows him personally. The contact of the casino owner are fake and he doesn't reply when i contacted him. The managers of his casinos do not reply at emails and u want us to believe he replies to social media?? Why do not prove to bitcointalk community u actually pay for real winnings?? I am not a shilling for sure and its over a month u kept my money/ The game provider sent u the result and u lied about not having the requested infos i have a prove in my email , they send u everything, u dont want to share the findings because not cheating was found and u don't want to pay. Please put in contact of the casino owner since the management of ltc casino do not reply to any emails and the chat operators close the chats. Your casino is acting like a rogue casino and i invite everyone to check my scam accusation and put a flag and warn others if LTC casino doesn't pay my winnings. Its over a month , explain why in all this time if u haven't found anything u still keeping my money??? And please stop blaming the game provider because they have sent u all you needed but u don't want to share it because u don't want to pay. i really hope whoever reads this dosen't touch your site till u come out clean. Most fair crypto casino... HA!! |
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its sad that this scam website didnt have any negative reputation.
If they don't pay my winnings i will make sure they will as they are acting like a rogue casino. They have kept my winning for over a month and they are lying about the cheating and denying the findings of the game provider for not paying, Another unlicensed casino with not morals. People stay away. You have already waited over a month. let's wait for their reply. I hope they will come up with a good solution. Since the provider said there is nothing wrong with you, Let's see what LTC Casino says about your bets and winnings. If they fail to give proper answers, They have to pay your winnings. If they don't pay your winnings or fail to give a answer about why they delays, You could create a Flag and ask DT members to support it. Hi there, thank you. How do i create a red flag? Never done that before, its over a month now and they are blatantly lying and the can share the provider findings to show transparency. They are not because they are lying and this is not an homicide that it takes over a month of investigations. They clearly struggling to find new excuses , i am very confident and would be thrilled for them to share the game provider replies but it is obvuois now why they dont. Also casino guru rep has analysed the game play and they found no cheating. Also the casino never even emailed to explain why my account was blocked they just ignored my emails and they only replied in this forum, since this happened they never even bothered to reply to one single email. Not even rogue casino act so ruthlessly. If you could explain me how to create a red flag i would really appreciate as at least other players will not go through the hell iam going through. |
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I am not sure what is a volatility can u please explain to me what is this?
However i am glad you have responded.
Regarding variance, in short, it refers to "risk". Low-variance slots pay out more frequently but smaller wins. On the other hand, high-variance slot games are capable of massive wins, but of course, frequency is lower. Mid-variance slots are in-between. There are many more things related to variance, their types, etc. In 2018, Wazdan introduced an option to choose variance on their slot titles ( There are three options: low, mid & high). You can simply change variance by clicking on the variance icon. (3 chilli papers icon). As I can see per your screenshot, it's set on medium variance (default one). So if you haven't changed it, you have played on medium variance. Thank you! i actually thought was the speed this chilies!! Dear me...i am so tech helpless!!! What i don't get is what this has to do with the winnings, i have used one or two chilies mostly and didn't really used the third one as thought was going to speed the game too much. The casino is mentioning also auto-spins but i never used it as like to it without it. Unfortunately they are now making things up as they dont want to pay since the game provider as stated they sent all they needed and the casino refuses to share their findings because they will prove to the gambling community they are just another unlicensed casino with not morals. The funniest part and also most sad is that they call themselves the most fair crypto casino! As IF!! Thanks for the explanation by the way, the casino dosent even bother to reply , too busy scamming people probably. i |
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A whole month has passed and LTc casino since i have won and u blocked my account and a 5 days after receiving the second checks from the game provider and still LTC casino rep dose not send updates!!
So far they have not been able to solve your problem which is not acceptable. If your account is blocked due to your mistake then they should also give a proper analysis of your problem as to why such a situation has arisen. Since it has not yet given you any kind of solution or tried to give it, it must fall into the category of unprofessional activities. So I look forward to seeing what kind of updates they give you. It's getting really bad as they are becoming unresponsive even in this site. They seem not to care much about to build a reputation and from this would be very hard for players to trust them as what's the point to play if the casino doesn't pay ? The posts of the people winning a jackpot and withdrawing can't be real . i am convinced by my own experience they are shilling, because there is not way the casino would pay straightaway all that money when my account was blocked straight the day after and they literally not even send me an email saying why. It not easy to win in this casino as i had to play well over 15k before winning that big and at max bet. Wonder if they are going to reply at casino guru too as they clearly stated they don't believe the check the casino rep made because obviously they found zero cheating. They are also now doubting the game provider, we are all dishonest looks like except Ltc casino the most fair casino in the web!! Before you think to deposit in the most far crypto casino check how you will be treated if u ever win . https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389546.msg59683322#msg59683322STAY AWAY!!!! If they were honest they would pay as honest casinos do. its sad that this scam website didnt have any negative reputation. If they don't pay my winnings i will make sure they will as they are acting like a rogue casino. They have kept my winning for over a month and they are lying about the cheating and denying the findings of the game provider for not paying, Another unlicensed casino with not morals. People stay away. |
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You seem to be editing and changing your posts. My bot notification shows that you asked me what my opinion of the casino is now, but I can't find that sentence in your posts anymore. What we have here is a he said, she said situation, and it's impossible to know who is right since none of the information is public. The game provider claims they sent everything that was requested from them (he said). The casino says the info they received isn't enough because a lot of questions remain unanswered, so they have requested additional info (she said). Neither the game provider has shown you what data has been sent nor has the casino made public the information they received and the additional questions they have asked the gaming provider. This screenshot that you posted ( https://imgur.com/a/UhV2KjT) states they can't send you the info you are looking for because they have no way to verify who you are. Additionally, the casino won't make the information public as long as they are still investigating the case. And as they said previously, the can take several months. All I can say is stay calm and expect the best outcome if you have nothing to hide. That's all I can tell you. Have you heard of the proverb: " Justice is slow but sure"? It takes time to prove you did nothing wrong. i delete because you didn't reply and thought i didn't want to bother you stop painting me like the villain. The casino said that they asked the game provider for further questions after over a month?? how credible?? The game provider stated that they sent all it was requested and they have not reason to lie and they have noting to lose, the casino on the contrary will have either pay or show the world is another rogue unlicensed casino. It is over a month now and i have nothing to hide but i want to be paid for my winnings, very simple and if the casino had any evidence they would have already publish it. The fact they don't share the game provider findings is plain and simple they will prove that i did not cheat and that they are lying. Unfortunately i don't believe on your proverb as justice doesn't happen all the time, may in your world does. By now any decent casino would have sorted it out but this casino is keep taking time hoping thi swill go away. |
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