cryptohunter is just mad because people are getting richer, hating on people gains as usual, I've learned that polls in this forum are nothing but a few group of people who have like 5 accounts probably even more spamming the shit out of polls and this forum.

Ha exactly "unique" you suspect the same as me.

That is where the reptilians who control Microsoft and Iota spend most of their free time?



<back on topic>
Will Iota partnering with Microsoft put it in the Top Five on CMC?
After reading some of the news about Iota, I have a question:
What is the value in "Blockchain as a Service"?
A Blockchain is supposed to be decentralized, so how does putting a huge company in control help anyone?

While of course fiat is what is needed for a lot of the real world transactions, I am 100% certain that the foundation members want their salaries in IOTA, not in fiat. Plus I am a big believer in having a direct relationship between the work <> funding. The better the job = the more funds the foundation has. Of course the foundation will be ran in such a fashion that we always have the first portion of the roadmap secured in fiat.

But it's also completely unrealistic to assume that because the big deal come through suddenly the foundation will receive a load of donations. The foundation has to be established prior to any big news, otherwise 'loss aversion' will kick in. Hell, we see this already with those who say: "I won't sell below 25x, even though the person who secured the 25x tells me it's a good idea!".

So in short: foundation wants iotas, and big news won't be announced until we make a decision on whether to have a foundation or not to prevent irrational decision making that is inevitable and already taking place.

The good news is that we already got a big portion of IOTA holders seeing the need for the foundation, in fact I believe most of IOTA holders are just idle atm. and not even aware of the foundation and big deal call.

CURRENTLY 31 OUT OF 75 VOTERS CONSIDER IOTA A SCAM!! - let's help them change their image and be fair to everyone. NXT2 is not allowed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1393703.120




Do you remember NXT - you know the coin that was sold to a handful of people for NXT to nothing?? 21btc for the entire amount of NXT

They then sold it to you guys for millions and millions of dollars (1000's  X THE PRICE OF THE ICO)

Cool idea hey?

Now they have always been accused of terrible initial distribution  on this board. This board is all us crypto folk have. I don't blame them for not going out in the world and forcing people that don't know what crypto or even bitcoin is into giving them their USD for a share. That is unreasonable and unrealistic. However, surely they could have done a little better with the distribution than just a handful of different people. (We think they were different people anyway because they have different usernames on this board)

Time passes and not many people were involved in crypto back then...compares to now....


Now years later the same people involved with NXT want to try it all over again. They maybe dumped all those NXT tokens and want more of your BTC.


OK here comes IOTA. Seemingly great idea almost like NXT something - ahead of it's time.

This time though they surely won't try and keep it all for a very very small selection of this board. I mean they wouldn't for instance have such a small group of investors that they can again try and sell it to you for example 1000X  THE PRICE OF THE ICO.

I MEAN WE WOULD NEVER FALL FOR THAT AGAIN WOULD WE???

NOT BY  THE VERY SAME PEOPLE???


This is i believe exactly what I think they are gearing up to do. It is not even out and they want  30X ico and the pumping and hysteria has not set in yet.

They will tell you as all those who want to have 1000X their investment will tell you . That you are complaining because you did not get any!! You're butthurt and sour grapes.

THEY ARE 100% correct.

But you have reason to be. This was not like you had a reasonable chance to invest and chose not to.

Do you think you missed this ICO because you don't like the idea of IOTA?
DO you think you missed this ICO because you just didn't notice IOTA?
It's your fault right??


Wrong - if you are regular on this board you WILL see IOTA being pumped and pumped and pumped very soon.  You won't be allowed to miss the PUMP i can assure you.


If you are running an ICO on this board you will more than likely follow 1 of the 2 possible scams options.


1. The good tech scam - like nxt has desirable innovation.

The  Insta - ICO.

Quick mention - kept to their thread little or nothing on main board (in nxt day there was only the main board)
You will get no pumping during the ICO at all. You will not hear pumping from the few investors or devs. You will miss it if you are not searching for it. There will be no open ledger of investors like with NEM or any of those.

Now that the ICO is over and the tokens are concentrated in say 1% or less of the board members hands the pumping can start. Even better if it's not on exchange. The longer the tokens are kept off of the exchange the better especially if the hype may be larger than the product can deliver. Keep pumping with minimal release from the few hoarders.

Soon you can demand and establish a crazy price. Already IOTA is 3000% higher than ICO and not even released. I discuss the token only not the internet of things promised that apparently depends upon successful completion of a processor beyond the scope of intel and amd.

If the intial distribution was fair and everyone had a reasonable chance to buy in at ICO like they claim. Then how it is that now they can charge 3000% more? Did a lot of people suddenly have a change of heart?? didn't want to buy for 30x less but now they do? very strange since it's not out.

This is NOTHING. 3000% is not enough no.....they will have you pay 100000% if they can.

The pump hasn't even started yet. Be ready.


2. The NO tech scam

the second kind of ICO scam is where there is no tech nor innovation and the pump is during the ICO after all these people want lots of investors they are not hiding to hoard. They want BTC directly and now not later on. There is no later on their product is a sham. They get the BTC now and run.


Should we all have a fair chance to invest?

Should we advertise the ICO in sig campaigns and give rewards for face book and twitter to get some real good distribution going?

Since we are unsure of the people running it should the second ICO funds be held by in multi sig accounts by well know escrows and released to the IOTA team as they progress and launch a working product??


I Own Tons Assholes.

I had a chat with CFB in another thread where he mentioned the use of purchased hero BTT accounts.

I mentioned that I thought it could be possible that even the few accounts that did enter the IOTA ico could have been purchased. I mean these could be owned by just one person. Imagine reducing the distribution from tiny to miniscule.

Expecting him to say that would be terrible right ?? at least pretend that this kind of thing would not be good for the project??

He replied to me it would make no difference because BTT was not important???


The only way they can pull a NXT on you all again and force you to pay millions for what each of them paid 1000x less is if you let them release it with this kind of distribution and buy it for the levels they can dictate by totally controlling the supply.

Vote to have a 2nd ICO with funds held by escrows - I have no issue with them having more funds if they bring tech worth paying for at a reasonable level. Not being shafted by their crafty stealth insta ico into a NXT2 situation though.

Vote and have your say. However keep to the facts and don't make personal insults.

We are discussing the fair advertising and release of a second ICO.

If you think the distribution should be widened and would like to have a fair opportunity to invest at a reasonable level not 3000% higher... then vote for a second ICO.



After voting I would like to invite you to discuss things we can do on BTT to ensure wider  distribution and just all round fair play on this board.



If you vote yes you don't mind paying 3000% over ICO then make sure add comment and post that you voted that way in the thread so we can see you're not already an I Own Tons Assholes  hoarder already. You meant to voting you don't mind investing at 3000% ico price not that you want others to give you 3000% interest on your BTC..

Here it comes...

Butthurt
sour grapes...

This is what all scammer says once people start to catch on.

TOO LATE - over 50% of the board already classed it as a scam and it is not even released. I mean that is some kind of record.

I'm sure the 21 people who bought ALL of nxt said everyone else was butthurt and sour grapes and that all ICO should just be distributed to a tiny % of the board so they can sell for 30 or 100x to everyone else. Sounds great.

Here on the main board fool...

No this is your sad attempt at pumping your ICO scam.

LIES?? what lies?

Iota is recognised already as a scam by 50% of the board.

More will realise it is since you are now spamming this board with iota pumping threads.

Where was all the ICO advertising on this main board before or during the ICO??

IOTA is simply nxt2 by the same people that created nxt.

I Own Tons Assholes......do you want to buy a few crumbs at 30x ico price.

No thanks put it on an exchange so the market can decide and save you pumping for your thread alone.

At least even ethereum made effort to advertise their ico and give POW distribution.

Look at LISK - they made sure you heard about their ICO cant go one page without 5 LISK banners in your face plus facebook and twitter rewards.

This is deliberately being held up from exchanges because they want to keep it even more captive whilst trying to whip up some super pumping threads.

Don't buy that for 20-30x ico price

Look to support fairer coins.