lol, lol...once again you misinterpret what people say!

"How do you know if I haven't already done so?" means how would you know if I have or haven't called them!! Think about it, what would that say to you?? Have I called them? Since you're so smart you answer that.

You haven't called them and can't refute what is provided in the links to prove that you don't need a court or lawyer/ solicitor/ attorney to file for personal bankruptcy.

How do you know if I haven't already done so? Why don't you call them? Here are their contact details.
https://www.afsa.gov.au/about-us/contact-us

Why don't you look at the links and prove to me that you need to go to court or a lawyer to file for your own bankruptcy?

lol, lol an "officer of the court" just means a trustee needs to follow the Bankruptcy Law. You obviously didn't look at the links, but it would seem that Hobopete did.

Prove that it's filed with the courts have a look at these:

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-packs/doi-pack/declaration-of-intention-to-present-a-debtors-petition-instructions-and-form

https://www.afsa.gov.au/resources/forms/form-5-declaration-of-intention-to-present-a-debtors-petition

http://www.foxsymes.com.au/debt-solutions/bankruptcy

https://www.afsa.gov.au/debtors/bankruptcy

Definition of 'Trustee'

A person or firm that holds or administers property or assets for the benefit of a third party. A trustee may be appointed for a wide variety of purposes, such as in the case of bankruptcy, for a charity, a trust fund or for certain types of retirement plans or pensions. They are trusted to make decisions in the beneficiary's best interests.

Trustee
An individual or corporation named by an individual, who sets aside property to be used for the benefit of another person, to manage the property as provided by the terms of the document that created the arrangement.

A trustee manages property that is held in trust. A trust is an arrangement in which one person holds the property of another for the benefit of a third party, called the beneficiary. The beneficiary is usually the owner of the property or a person designated as the beneficiary by the owner of the property. A trustee may be either an individual or a corporation.

A trustee is a fiduciary of the trust beneficiary. A fiduciary is legally bound to act, within the confines of the law, in the best interests of the beneficiary. A trustee is in a special position of confidence in relation to the beneficiary because the trustee has control of property that is essentially owned by the beneficiary.

Corathor: didn't you and Hobopete try to claim that you need a lawyer or a court to file for personal bankruptcy??

I even provided you with links from an Australian Government organization.

https://www.afsa.gov.au/debtors/bankruptcy

Remember that it's been confirmed that GES AU and GES HK are involved in this so called coin. It's been claimed that only GES HK are involved.

GES has no office in Hong Kong. Nilesh Nair and Bohan Huang have tried to claim that there is, yet they’ve produced no proof of this and tried to claim that the registry address of Hong Kong is where they have an office. The so-called replies via a gmail account can’t be coming from Hong Kong, the time zone differences would reflect that the replies are coming from Australia.

The emails to Coinasaur see post 3284, page 165 of this thread claim that GES has “office/s” in Hong Kong. Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong? Couldn’t find anything about him.
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Clifton/Tang

The so-called Hong Kong address listed on GES’s website is exactly the same address for a company called Dunn Global.  How can two companies share the same office? It was also claimed that GES has ‘virtual’ office? How can that be?

http://greenearthsystems.com.au/commodities/branches/

DUNN GLOBAL
http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php

Contact Info
General Information
Suites 1-3 Kinwick Center, 16th Floor
32 Hollywood Road,
Central, Hong Kong

The above address is not listed as having ‘virtual’ office spaces
http://www.officesasia.com/business-centers-hong-kong

GES has no office in HK, so no possibility of Nilesh Nair being in HK to supposedly sign this
http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20GES%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

True-Asset tried to claim in post 1353 on page 68 of the old forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.1340

That, "Green Earth Systems Pty Ltd" is an Australian company that is not involved with the Uro Protocol ratification. However GES Australia does handle some of the English PR and documentation services for the GES group due to the convenience of having an abundance of English literate staff in Australia”.

Yet it seems that Clifton Tang can send an email in English?? How can he really say that GES AU has no involvement in the so-called Uro??

Post 293 on page 15 of this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.280 reveals a lot about the fact that there is no office in Hong Kong. Nor does GES Au have an office at Australia Square.

With so much false information provided what does that say about the so-called Uro??

I get that you're angry for some reason.

So you're being paid by GES to pump this so-called coin. http://pbrd.co/1tOu7to

So there's a deliberate attempt to try and discredit others! No ability to refute the questions and concerns posed by many people about this coin. Why don't you do that instead of ranting and raving like Bohan did.

I can post my viewpoints about this coin, who does it hurt?

Nothing has been proven to be true. False addresses, false offices, no other NIER's, a raving Bohan & no one can refute what I've said except hurl abuse!!

What would make anyone think that's going to happen?? Remember that so many farmers wouldn't know about bitcoin.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won’t-recognise-bitcoin

http://smallmedia.org.uk/sites/default/files/u8/IIIP_June2014.pdf

Page 3 of second link shows bitcoin is illegal in Iran.

You didn't look at the first link? I copied and pasted it below for you.

http://www.phnompenhpost.com/business/nbc-won’t-recognise-bitcoin

So are you being paid by GES? Hasn't True-Asset asked you to help them?

Again, sounds like, "I can't do it because I can't refute what's been presented."

Are you paid by GES? Hasn't True-Asset been communicating with you about what you can do to help them?

I notice that you didn't deny that digital currency is illegal in Cambodia.

The number of posts a person makes doesn't determine how often they are here. Remember I've had to repeat some of my posts because they were deleted by this 'open' community who is willing (not) to hear all points of view.

I didn't set up an account to, "fuck with this coin".

Why haven't you or anyone been able to prove me or anyone wrong?

Sounds like you're angry because you can't do that.

Instead of saying it's, "booooooooooooring shit", why don't you prove me and others wrong???

It's not about hurting the investors, it's about the fact that those who may not be well versed in this area don't deserve to be duped of their money. It's about the fact that the poor people in the countries you want to sell this to, can't afford to lose what they have to a fake coin.

lol, lol they don't need to refute them! Sounds like, "I can't refute them"

Companies need to prove their legitimacy everyday.

Your 'activity' is 170, mine is 70. So who has more time?

What a silly suggestion that anyone is involved in any form of investment to, "throw our money away". If you are, that doesn't mean other people have to do that and lose their money with being fed false information.

You think that anyone who has read the supporters posts aren't laughing at the absurdity of your 'love' of Uro.

Why don't you refute what I've stated??

Where have I manipulated anything?

How is it possible that he could have an email from GES from some person called, "Clifton Tang" that's supposedly from HK. Yet the HK addresses don't match and no one can locate a HK address for GES?

Why hasn't anyone from GES refuted the email?

Why hasn't anyone from GES refuted the fact that GES has no office(s) in HK?

Argh, so the best answer you can give is to just try and belittle people!

Yet, you just can't refute what has been questioned.

Wonder why??

Emotional manipulation and use of gmail accounts are part of a scam. See these for further information. These sites verify that a scam uses religious or values based manipulation and use email accounts that are created using platforms like gmail.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mjf45egim/it-sounds-too-good-to-be-true-2/

http://www.fasttopten.com/list/top-ten-signs-youre-dealing-with-a-scam-artist

True-Asset has used the tactic of emotional manipulation as seen in his so-called “values” video. Also on this forum  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.3960 he showed signs of manipulation.

See posts  
 
563 on page 29:  True-Asset  acknowledges that the so-called ratified signature is false. http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

570 on page 29:  True-Asset acknowledges that websites do not provide accuracy of information.

625 on page 32: True-Asset talks about the so-called NIER’s policy on philanthropy.

2311 and 2319 on page 116:  True-Asset  uses manipulation with the words, ‘cowardly’ and religious connotations with talking about ‘karma’

2389 on page 120:  True-Asset talks about bullying, yet he and his supporters have bullied anyone who queried the legitimacy of the coin, especially when people have asked legitimate questions and when they've provided proof of what they're talking about.

2423 on page 122: True-Asset claims he will call the Federal Police.  Wouldn’t you call that bullying, especially when they’re asking people to hand over their money with little valid information?

On the moderated forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.540
See these posts

556 on page 28: Bohan claims, “I am formally separating from my position with GES AU, a postion I held since before the start of the Uro project.”

Yet in this http://cointelegraph.com/news/112355/over-the-next-5-years-the-demand-for-uro-will-far-outstrip-the-total-supply-bohan-huang-urocoin

Bohan claims, “ I started up a company back in 2012 that focused on secure IP CCTV networks, software night vision enhancement and AI object detection (TruHD) that was later acquired by GES AU (which amongst other business activities had an ageing CCTV arm that was past its time technologically).”

So how has Bohan formally separated from GES AU??

On this site https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687231.msg8303900#msg8303900

1540 on page 73: True-Asset attacks Hobopete for supposedly not being loyal when all he was doing was asking legitmate questions and seeking information that many people have been asking. True-Asset said,

“I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As peoplyou are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.”


Would a director of a multi-international company send someone a PM or email like this to someone who was asking questions? What about saying to people that they need to do their own research or tell people, “ ...investments in to urocoin should be based on your own confidence.”

Does that mean it’s your responsibility that you lose your money not 'ours' (meaning GES) and if you do too bad?

GES is hardly an ethical company that they claim to be.

He's promoting it because it's an unregulated industry, an easy way to create a scam is through digital currency.

A scammer doesn't care if they get 0.65 USD from you or any amount of money. Are you seriously going to think that anyone who gets involved in any business adventure whether it be digital currency or selling another product is not in it to make money for themselves?

Also, they want to promote this in Cambodia and Iran, in those countries there are a lot of poor people too.

lol, True-Asset has claimed that they haven't invested anything into this due to their so-called "values". So now they have??

True-Asset said to Hobopete, see page 73, post 1447 of this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687231.1440
 
"I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core."

You saying that he doesn't want your trust???

A company can post a message on their website, such as RIVAA did. Does it necessarily mean that anything is going to happen? Do you think that such an organisation will do something with GES without a contract??

GES claims to have office(s) in HK and around the world, where are they?

Why are you angry???

No one who is asking questions or seeking more information is trying to take your money from you. There's no reason for us to do that.

We're not judging, just asking questions. You expect people to hand over their money without asking questions?? That's strange.

As far as credibility goes, GES, Bohan and Nilesh along with the so-called NIER's have presented us with the information. Can't help it if there are 'holes' in what they've presented, which is strange for a so-called multi-international company with so-called multi-million dollar deals.

True-Asset was online when I posted the information and query about the Hong Kong address.

http://pasteboard.co/2Fmqzcm4.jpg

Wonder why he didn't refute it?? Along with other questions as people on this forum have told people to do. Or do our own research, which we have done, yet all the information conflicts with what GES, Nilesh and Bohan have presented.

The emails to Coinasaur see post 3284, page 165 of this thread claim that GES has “office/s” in Hong Kong. Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong?

Coinasaur can't be lying, how can he fake an email from GES?? No one from GES has denied the emails and nor have GES claimed they are false.

Any real information that has been shown to supporters has always been claimed as FUD, yet they have provided nothing to support their claim.

Those who are presenting another point of view, just don't want people to get ripped off.


You have forgotten this as well.

The so-called Hong Kong address listed on GES’s website is exactly the same address for a company called Dunn Global.  How can two companies share the same office? It was also claimed that GES has ‘virtual’ office? How can that be?

DUNN GLOBAL
http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php

Contact Info
General Information
Suites 1-3 Kinwick Center, 16th Floor
32 Hollywood Road,
Central, Hong Kong

What would Sovereign Group have to do with Uro or GES other than being a place where people can register their company with in HK?


On their site it says:  http://www.sovereigngroup.com/about-sovereign/our-history.htm

ABOUT SOVEREIGN

Company Registration, Estate Planning, Legal & Tax Planning Advice Services

The first Sovereign office opened in Gibraltar in 1987 but we now have offices or agents in all the major offshore & onshore jurisdictions.
Traditionally, our main business has been the setting up and management of offshore and onshore companies, trusts and company registration to assist with tax planning and asset protection. Now our range of services has expanded so we now offer a wide range of services such as estate planning, asset management, capital raising, specialised tax advice, credit cards and others which are natural additions to our main activity. These are more fully described in Our Services.
We currently manage over 7,000 structures for a wide variety of clients including governments, publicly quoted companies and professional law and accountancy firms. But our more typical client is the individual investor or business person who requires some technical but practical advice, a relatively simple structure and a comprehensive but competitively priced ongoing administration service.
We have been granted licences in the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Malta, Mauritius, Seychelles, the Netherlands and the Turks and Caicos Islands. To obtain these licenses we have had to demonstrate financial stability, professional competence and expertise. This is testament to the skill and integrity of our staff and ensures that our clients receive the quality of advice and service which has allowed us to become one of the most respected and recognisable names in our industry.
The pages which follow are intended as a general guide. We always encourage prospective clients to call their most convenient Sovereign office for an initial consultation which can be given without fee or commitment.