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[Truthful]

The emails to Coinasaur see post 3284, page 165 of this thread claim that GES has “office/s” in Hong Kong. Who is Clifton Tang? Some made up person? Has GES AU made up a false identity to claim the emails are coming from Hong Kong?

Coinasaur can't be lying, how can he fake an email from GES?? No one from GES has denied the emails and nor have GES claimed they are false.

Any real information that has been shown to supporters has always been claimed as FUD, yet they have provided nothing to support their claim.

Those who are presenting another point of view, just don't want people to get ripped off.


You have forgotten this as well.

The so-called Hong Kong address listed on GES’s website is exactly the same address for a company called Dunn Global.  How can two companies share the same office? It was also claimed that GES has ‘virtual’ office? How can that be?

DUNN GLOBAL
http://www.dunnglobal.com/Contact.php

Contact Info
General Information
Suites 1-3 Kinwick Center, 16th Floor
32 Hollywood Road,
Central, Hong Kong

What would Sovereign Group have to do with Uro or GES other than being a place where people can register their company with in HK?


On their site it says:  http://www.sovereigngroup.com/about-sovereign/our-history.htm

ABOUT SOVEREIGN

Company Registration, Estate Planning, Legal & Tax Planning Advice Services

The first Sovereign office opened in Gibraltar in 1987 but we now have offices or agents in all the major offshore & onshore jurisdictions.
Traditionally, our main business has been the setting up and management of offshore and onshore companies, trusts and company registration to assist with tax planning and asset protection. Now our range of services has expanded so we now offer a wide range of services such as estate planning, asset management, capital raising, specialised tax advice, credit cards and others which are natural additions to our main activity. These are more fully described in Our Services.
We currently manage over 7,000 structures for a wide variety of clients including governments, publicly quoted companies and professional law and accountancy firms. But our more typical client is the individual investor or business person who requires some technical but practical advice, a relatively simple structure and a comprehensive but competitively priced ongoing administration service.
We have been granted licences in the Bahamas, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar, Guernsey, Isle of Man, Malta, Mauritius, Seychelles, the Netherlands and the Turks and Caicos Islands. To obtain these licenses we have had to demonstrate financial stability, professional competence and expertise. This is testament to the skill and integrity of our staff and ensures that our clients receive the quality of advice and service which has allowed us to become one of the most respected and recognisable names in our industry.
The pages which follow are intended as a general guide. We always encourage prospective clients to call their most convenient Sovereign office for an initial consultation which can be given without fee or commitment.

[Truthful]

True-Asset was online when I posted the information and query about the Hong Kong address.

http://pasteboard.co/2Fmqzcm4.jpg

Wonder why he didn't refute it?? Along with other questions as people on this forum have told people to do. Or do our own research, which we have done, yet all the information conflicts with what GES, Nilesh and Bohan have presented.

[vipin.khatri20]

Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niothor, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?

You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
 

[solid12345]

I don't care who this Coinosaur guy is nor what this Tanga guy is
What i was saying is that they guy currently has no relation to SG based exactly on the evidence you provided so he can be neglected or at least SG involvement in this.

The claim by truthful was Clifton Tang was made up or did not exist, I countered with verifiable evidence that would hold up in a court of law that not only is he NOT made up but he worked/works for a company that shares the same address as GES. I mean really what are the odds of Coinosaur getting an email and pulling a random name out his ass and having these details match up?

This is what I mean by pure insanity, you are like the guys claiming Bohan was photoshopped, do you know how elaborate this whole complex scheme is? Have you seen how simple crypto scams are? Why are all the other ones busted easily with a simple google search and one sloppy mistake somewhere blowing the whole thing yet in this case for the thing to be a setup, years of digital back history back even before Bitcoin had to be planted, Nilesh is jet setting around the world bankrupt with 10 dollars in his pocket getting selfies taken with the dictator of Fiji and employees in Egypt and Hong Kong, all of Bohans 2 year old youtube videos of him narrating over his HD camera footage is not real, all these official government documents pulled from government websites is not real, Rivaa exports is not real, Indian Potash Limited is not real, not even the 9/11 conspiracy theories are now this mammoth.

And you can call it fishy all you like niothor but a company who has a history of fraud also has a history of complaints as well. I challenge you to find me any complaint online calling GES a scam. Just one.

I hope this Iran video comes out and its the Ayatollah himself on film declaring all crypto other than Uro is sinful, but even then you'd probably still say, "Hmm....I still don't know....scam."

And of course should I not forget how the goal post keeps moving in all of this, at first it was GES was fake, Bohan stole the company's website from Nilesh and faked it all, then the Nilesh video came out (LOL) and the fud had to change to Nilesh is bankrupt or GES is going to screw farmers over, nothing will please you lot.

You will never be satisfied.

[niothor]

Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?

You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
 

Can vipiss.farti at least spell my username right?

[vipin.khatri20]

Niothor

He don't have to prove anything to you or me, URO was created for specific purpose and people backing that "Indie guy with 2 buck in his pocket" are like or RIVAA, Lakhani and so on. They are the one who has to spent money and need to trust him. As far as I know he just want miners from this market to secure the blockchain and he never asked us to trust him or buy URO, we are doing it because of our own interest.

You FUDers should really get some life and come out of your obsession for URO.

[Truthful]

Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?

You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
 

Why are you angry???

No one who is asking questions or seeking more information is trying to take your money from you. There's no reason for us to do that.

We're not judging, just asking questions. You expect people to hand over their money without asking questions?? That's strange.

As far as credibility goes, GES, Bohan and Nilesh along with the so-called NIER's have presented us with the information. Can't help it if there are 'holes' in what they've presented, which is strange for a so-called multi-international company with so-called multi-million dollar deals.

[vipin.khatri20]

Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?

You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
 

Why are you angry???

No one who is asking questions or seeking more information is trying to take your money from you. There's no reason for us to do that.

We're not judging, just asking questions. You expect people to hand over their money without asking questions?? That's strange.

As far as credibility goes, GES, Bohan and Nilesh along with the so-called NIER's have presented us with the information. can't help it if there are 'holes' in what they've presented, which is strange for a so-called multi-international company with so-called multi-million dollar deals.

He don't have to prove anything to you or me, URO was created for specific purpose and people backing that "Indie guy with 2 buck in his pocket" are like or RIVAA, Lakhani and so on. They are the one who has to spent money and need to trust him. As far as I know he just want miners from this market to secure the blockchain and he never asked us to trust him or buy URO, we are doing it because of our own interest.

Nobody has asked you to handover your money to them so you FUDers should really get some life and come out of your obsession for URO.

[niothor]

I don't care who this Coinosaur guy is nor what this Tanga guy is
What i was saying is that they guy currently has no relation to SG based exactly on the evidence you provided so he can be neglected or at least SG involvement in this.

The claim by truthful was Clifton Tang was made up or did not exist, I countered with verifiable evidence that would hold up in a court of law that not only is he NOT made up but he worked/works for a company that shares the same address as GES. I mean really what are the odds of Coinosaur getting an email and pulling a random name out his ass and having these details match up?

This is what I mean by pure insanity, you are like the guys claiming Bohan was photoshopped, do you know how elaborate this whole complex scheme is? Have you seen how simple crypto scams are? Why are all the other ones busted easily with a simple google search and one sloppy mistake somewhere blowing the whole thing yet in this case for the thing to be a setup, years of digital back history back even before Bitcoin had to be planted, Nilesh is jet setting around the world bankrupt with 10 dollars in his pocket getting selfies taken with the dictator of Fiji and employees in Egypt and Hong Kong, all of Bohans 2 year old youtube videos of him narrating over his HD camera footage is not real, all these official government documents pulled from government websites is not real, Rivaa exports is not real, Indian Potash Limited is not real, not even the 9/11 conspiracy theories are now this mammoth.

And you can call it fishy all you like niothor but a company who has a history of fraud also has a history of complaints as well. I challenge you to find me any complaint online calling GES a scam. Just one.

I hope this Iran video comes out and its the Ayatollah himself on film declaring all crypto other than Uro is sinful, but even then you'd probably still say, "Hmm....I still don't know....scam."

And of course should I not forget how the goal post keeps moving in all of this, at first it was GES was fake, Bohan stole the company's website from Nilesh and faked it all, then the Nilesh video came out (LOL) and the fud had to change to Nilesh is bankrupt or GES is going to screw farmers over, nothing will please you lot.

You will never be satisfied.

Probably not. I haven't heard about a person who is satisfied forever.

Second both you and the the red guy are doing a zealot mistake.
You assumed I have something with the coin and that I am a fudder desperate to bring it down.

If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die.

What I have posted above was my opinion. I wouldn't trust something like that with those ghost offices and deals..Point. It my damn opinion and I have the right to say it wherever i want and whenever i want.

Want to prove that URO is real? I will buy a coin right now! How do i get my 1 ton of UREA?

[Truthful]

Okay all the Fuders one request, Can you all ( Truthfuf,Niother, Sadhogan, Guglimugli, Chang and so on) Post your LinkedIn profile links and also snapshot of your URO trading history from Bittrex?

You don't even think twice while questioning credibility of others like Nilesh, Bohang, Clifton Tang etc , lets see how many connections you have got in your LinkedIn profile and what is your URO trading history, so that we can know at least something about you. I know your FUDing will have no effect on URO ever but we would also like to know about people who are questing other's credibility and judging them.
 

Why are you angry???

No one who is asking questions or seeking more information is trying to take your money from you. There's no reason for us to do that.

We're not judging, just asking questions. You expect people to hand over their money without asking questions?? That's strange.

As far as credibility goes, GES, Bohan and Nilesh along with the so-called NIER's have presented us with the information. can't help it if there are 'holes' in what they've presented, which is strange for a so-called multi-international company with so-called multi-million dollar deals.

He don't have to prove anything to you or me, URO was created for specific purpose and people backing that "Indie guy with 2 buck in his pocket" are like or RIVAA, Lakhani and so on. They are the one who has to spent money and need to trust him. As far as I know he just want miners from this market to secure the blockchain and he never asked us to trust him or buy URO, we are doing it because of our own interest.

Nobody has asked you to handover your money to them so you FUDers should really get some life and come out of your obsession for URO.

lol, True-Asset has claimed that they haven't invested anything into this due to their so-called "values". So now they have??

True-Asset said to Hobopete, see page 73, post 1447 of this forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687231.1440
 
"I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core."

You saying that he doesn't want your trust???

A company can post a message on their website, such as RIVAA did. Does it necessarily mean that anything is going to happen? Do you think that such an organisation will do something with GES without a contract??

GES claims to have office(s) in HK and around the world, where are they?

[solid12345]

If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die.

Sorry but some things do not deserve anything it's called basic decency. Payu Harris from Mazacoin didn't deserve to be called a crack smoker or a deadbeat dad because he made a coin that some people did not like or wanted cheap. People here were absolutely vicious and drove that coin into the ground, it was sad. However he continued to fight on and was interviewed just 3 weeks ago by Newsweek and has a Mashable.com documentary of his journey premiering in October. What "scam" developer would go to all this trouble even when their coin is worth almost nothing?

In my book all the work he's done he "deserves" to have a top 10 coin at least but I guess that's just my opinion too.

I sense the same pattern with Uro, many people feel threatened by it and beyond the fudders just wanting cheap coin, I arguably think there are other people who absolutely want it to fail because it takes money away from their daily pump and dumps. XC was another good example of a hateful fud campaign because it represented a threat to Darkcoin. How ironic though Dark would be taken down not by XC but all these endless anon gimmick coins coming out of the woodwork every day.

My "opinion" is when things traverse into the territory of someone picking up the phone and calling someone on the other end "scamming cunts" like Chang that just screams crazy. I've been conned by alot like Carsen Klock but I'm not going to get on the phone with him and argue with him because he cost me 50 bucks.

[erok]

If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die.

Sorry but some things do not deserve anything it's called basic decency. Payu Harris from Mazacoin didn't deserve to be called a crack smoker or a deadbeat dad because he made a coin that some people did not like or wanted cheap. People here were absolutely vicious and drove that coin into the ground, it was sad. However he continued to fight on and was interviewed just 3 weeks ago by Newsweek and has a Mashable.com documentary of his journey premiering in October. What "scam" developer would go to all this trouble even when their coin is worth almost nothing?

In my book all the work he's done he "deserves" to have a top 10 coin at least but I guess that's just my opinion too.

I sense the same pattern with Uro, many people feel threatened by it and beyond the fudders just wanting cheap coin, I arguably think there are other people who absolutely want it to fail because it takes money away from their daily pump and dumps. XC was another good example of a hateful fud campaign because it represented a threat to Darkcoin. How ironic though Dark would be taken down not by XC but all these endless anon gimmick coins coming out of the woodwork every day.

My "opinion" is when things traverse into the territory of someone picking up the phone and calling someone on the other end "scamming cunts" like Chang that just screams crazy. I've been conned by alot like Carsen Klock but I'm not going to get on the phone with him and argue with him because he cost me 50 bucks.

To be fair mazacoin did it to themselves with the whole "Two-Phase Pre-Mine" and the non-official affiliations.

Also URO has it easy. If it doesn't want to be called a scam, where can I pickup my 20 tons of piss?

[niothor]

If this coin or bitcoin dies because of fud then it deserves to die.

Sorry but some things do not deserve anything it's called basic decency. Payu Harris from Mazacoin didn't deserve to be called a crack smoker or a deadbeat dad because he made a coin that some people did not like or wanted cheap. People here were absolutely vicious and drove that coin into the ground, it was sad. However he continued to fight on and was interviewed just 3 weeks ago by Newsweek and has a Mashable.com documentary of his journey premiering in October. What "scam" developer would go to all this trouble even when their coin is worth almost nothing?

In my book all the work he's done he "deserves" to have a top 10 coin at least but I guess that's just my opinion too.

I sense the same pattern with Uro, many people feel threatened by it and beyond the fudders just wanting cheap coin, I arguably think there are other people who absolutely want it to fail because it takes money away from their daily pump and dumps. XC was another good example of a hateful fud campaign because it represented a threat to Darkcoin. How ironic though Dark would be taken down not by XC but all these endless anon gimmick coins coming out of the woodwork every day.

My "opinion" is when things traverse into the territory of someone picking up the phone and calling someone on the other end "scamming cunts" like Chang that just screams crazy. I've been conned by alot like Carsen Klock but I'm not going to get on the phone with him and argue with him because he cost me 50 bucks.

No.
Mazacoin deserved to die.

It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it.
There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed".

Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams.

Mazacoin did ride the waves of auroracoin but it wasn't anything special.
the same question went unanswered. Why use auroracoin or mazacoin or the other failures and not bitcoin.

[solid12345]

It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it.
There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed".

Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams.

If it was a scam why is he still promoting it? He's not making any money. Is Potcoin a scam because it claims to be the "official" currency of the cannabis industry, or is it just overexcited marketing by fudging words a little, big difference.

Also a statement from one of the Lakota tribe's lawyers did come out after all the fud drama indicating they knew about Maza but were exploring it further, sounds more like politics got involved than Payu out in the wilderness making a coin in secret. Also if you read anything you'd know originally the initiative was to bring Bitcoin to the tribes as well but that would mean they'd have no sovereign control of the currency hence the birth of Mazacoin.

Also go tell the Ecuador president his plans for a digital currency is the last of their dreams too since a good portion of Ecuador's population is made up of poor natives with no electricity.

[niothor]

It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it.
There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed".

Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams.

If it was a scam why is he still promoting it? He's not making any money. Is Potcoin a scam because it claims to be the "official" currency of the cannabis industry, or is it just overexcited marketing by fudging words a little, big difference.

Also a statement from one of the Lakota tribe's lawyers did come out after all the fud drama indicating they knew about Maza but were exploring it further, sounds more like politics got involved than Payu out in the wilderness making a coin in secret. Also if you read anything you'd know originally the initiative was to bring Bitcoin to the tribes as well but that would mean they'd have no sovereign control of the currency hence the birth of Mazacoin.

Also go tell the Ecuador president his plans for a digital currency is the last of their dreams too since a good portion of Ecuador's population is made up of poor natives with no electricity.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761896.0

So a digital currency controlled by the government replacing the current "uncontrollable" fiat money.

This is worse than banning bitcoin actually.

You will have basically no means escaping the government control. All your finances will be tracked and they will know everything you purchase , when you send money to your kinds and family in detail.  And they will be able to wipe your deposits with a click.

A lot of them will miss cash payments

[solid12345]

One could argue Bitcoin is a NSA trojan horse to do all the exact same things you mention about the government having a permanent record of all your transactions. Better dump your BTC now.

[niothor]

One could argue Bitcoin is a NSA trojan horse to do all the exact same things you mention about the government having a permanent record of all your transactions. Better dump your BTC now.

Nobody can control bitcoin.
If somebody tries and manages (close to 0 chances) this it will die as people will just stop relying on it or most probable hardfork it.

In Ecuador case the government wants to replace their currency with a digital one where they control everything. Even the creation of new money (coins). They could even erase all your saving with a click.

Nobody can do this with bitcoin.

Besides , have you heard about coin mixers?

[Truthful]

It was a scam , claiming to be the first sovereign coin when the natives didn't even heard of it.
There was no way the coin could be adopted by the people for which it was "designed".

Read a bit about how those guys live in real life and you're going to see for yourself that a digital currency was the last of their dreams.

If it was a scam why is he still promoting it? He's not making any money. Is Potcoin a scam because it claims to be the "official" currency of the cannabis industry, or is it just overexcited marketing by fudging words a little, big difference.

He's promoting it because it's an unregulated industry, an easy way to create a scam is through digital currency.

A scammer doesn't care if they get 0.65 USD from you or any amount of money. Are you seriously going to think that anyone who gets involved in any business adventure whether it be digital currency or selling another product is not in it to make money for themselves?

Also, they want to promote this in Cambodia and Iran, in those countries there are a lot of poor people too.

[Truthful]

Emotional manipulation and use of gmail accounts are part of a scam. See these for further information. These sites verify that a scam uses religious or values based manipulation and use email accounts that are created using platforms like gmail.

http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mjf45egim/it-sounds-too-good-to-be-true-2/

http://www.fasttopten.com/list/top-ten-signs-youre-dealing-with-a-scam-artist

True-Asset has used the tactic of emotional manipulation as seen in his so-called “values” video. Also on this forum  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600639.3960 he showed signs of manipulation.

See posts  
 
563 on page 29:  True-Asset  acknowledges that the so-called ratified signature is false. http://uro.io/Uro%20Protocol%20CCL%20Pillay%20Instrument%20of%20Ratification%20June%202014%20JPG90.jpg

570 on page 29:  True-Asset acknowledges that websites do not provide accuracy of information.

625 on page 32: True-Asset talks about the so-called NIER’s policy on philanthropy.

2311 and 2319 on page 116:  True-Asset  uses manipulation with the words, ‘cowardly’ and religious connotations with talking about ‘karma’

2389 on page 120:  True-Asset talks about bullying, yet he and his supporters have bullied anyone who queried the legitimacy of the coin, especially when people have asked legitimate questions and when they've provided proof of what they're talking about.

2423 on page 122: True-Asset claims he will call the Federal Police.  Wouldn’t you call that bullying, especially when they’re asking people to hand over their money with little valid information?

On the moderated forum https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=684972.540
See these posts

556 on page 28: Bohan claims, “I am formally separating from my position with GES AU, a postion I held since before the start of the Uro project.”

Yet in this http://cointelegraph.com/news/112355/over-the-next-5-years-the-demand-for-uro-will-far-outstrip-the-total-supply-bohan-huang-urocoin

Bohan claims, “ I started up a company back in 2012 that focused on secure IP CCTV networks, software night vision enhancement and AI object detection (TruHD) that was later acquired by GES AU (which amongst other business activities had an ageing CCTV arm that was past its time technologically).”

So how has Bohan formally separated from GES AU??

On this site https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=687231.msg8303900#msg8303900

1540 on page 73: True-Asset attacks Hobopete for supposedly not being loyal when all he was doing was asking legitmate questions and seeking information that many people have been asking. True-Asset said,

“I have to say you lack of faith really hurts me to the core.

GES is a multibillion dollar company, and they have nothing to proof to you.

GES does business using many companies they own throughout the world, but none of this is going to be publicised, because they do not wish to publicise it.

If you have not faith, then just sell.

As peoplyou are all too short sighted and sceptical to understand the true scale of GES.

I tried to give the young people here a chance to get a piece of the pie - and it does not seem they care enough to want it.

If you want to now turn against me, then go for it.”


Would a director of a multi-international company send someone a PM or email like this to someone who was asking questions? What about saying to people that they need to do their own research or tell people, “ ...investments in to urocoin should be based on your own confidence.”

Does that mean it’s your responsibility that you lose your money not 'ours' (meaning GES) and if you do too bad?

GES is hardly an ethical company that they claim to be.

[vipin.khatri20]

There is an nice quote bout this situation here:  Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.
                                      George Carlin

So enjoy your good FUDing days ahead.