Right, the server might not be able to use a gui. But bitcoin-d wallets has private keys and you could run bitcoin-qt on your own pc right? The bitcoin-d account system should be able to provide a list of users that want to get their withdraw. Or the list could be taken directly form database. And it should be possible to edit the date for the account system in case you manually did a withdraw for a customer. Wouldnt that be way less work than manually doing transactions one by one each 20-50 minutes?
And before bitcoin-qt came out there should be at least one commandline wallet that should be able to do bulk transfers too.
I see that data has to be changed back and forth but you stated already that you do such things on a small scale to do many small transactions. So it shouldnt be a big difference.
Even if I could use bitcoin-qt, i am still doing manual withdraws. However, due to reasons above, including support for the account system in bitcoind and a potential divergence between the working wallet and wallets running in parallel this could cause more problems. (This is no different than trying to run 50 copies at once. It is still just another copy.)
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Sebastian: Our servers do not run with GUI's. So visual based wallets will not work. Also we use the 'account' system in bitcoind which has proven to be very useful and problem causing at the same time.
-Ukyo
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I have tried moving bitcoind to extremely powerful systems. This did not make a difference.
I talked to a dev about running multiple copies of the wallet, however doing so could cause the private keys/keypool between the wallets to diverge and cause more problems.
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So, has anyone received a redemption on this lately? Ukyo, have any been processed?
I apologize, I have been extremely busy with sorting out problems with weexchange. I am still working with MGIO on his, I spoke to him a day ago or so and hope to have him taken care of soon and be able to move onto the next requets. In the meantime, I am hoping to announce some good news this week that was made possible by this. -Ukyo
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Just another idea that might or might not work. You said that you can send 50-100 btc in about an hour and even small transactions take at least 20 minutes. If you cannot move the whole clogged wallet to a clean one, why don't you send just 50-100btc at a time to a clean wallet. Then you could quickly process many small transactions from there.
I actually have been doing that to get more of the smaller ones done I am skipping around a large withdraw for about 30 minutes to be able to get 4 or 5 out during the same time of the bigger withdraw. It has also been hit or miss. From what I can tell, and note that I am not a bitcoind dev and have not looked at the source, that the issue seems to be bitcoind trying to located unspent inputs to put together to send out. Although this should be a fairly easy process and fast process as I have noticed most transactions do not have more than 5 to 10 inputs. All I can think of is that it has something to do with key management of such a large volume of keys. -Ukyo Thanks for the update George. I am trying to post daily at least. Anyone else that get's a withdraw, please let people know. Thank you, Ukyo
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We are now over halfway through Oct 23rd requests. The next couple days withdraws mostly consist of smaller transactions so I think those should go a bit quicker.
Please keep in mind, we have been getting 50 to 100 withdraw requests a day. At 20 to 50 minutes per manual transfer it is taking a while. We also noticed that larger transactions such as 50btc end up taking about 30 minutes before seeing them advertised to the network, and around 100btc taking as much as a full hour.
The other day I attempted to just move all funds to a new wallet and waited for a bit over 3 hours and the transaction never completed to the network. At that point I returned to manual transactions. In the mean time I am working on a new system for better load handling and a method try to import the current wallet data to it so that as soon as it is ready we will be able to speed through the remaining withdraws at that time.
At this point I can understand if you wish to open a scammer tag. This has been a very unfortunate event that really caught me off guard but I will work through everything as fast as bitcoind will let me and continue to work on the quick/permanent fix. I will not fight it but will continue to work through things to fix them and make everything right by everyone. Though if you do open one, I ask that you update it when your withdraw does eventually show up.
Many many transactions go out every day. Many people become happy about their funds and don't bother to post here or do not even know to post here. I again would like to remind those users who are reading this that if you get your withdraw, please post here so everyone else knows. While I understand your privacy matters, I am sure people will also be happy to know the amounts too, esp. if you are one of the larger withdraws.
Please keep in mind that BitFunder had almost 10,000 user accounts. I am sure you could imagine the massive spike in withdraws over the last few weeks on WeExchange.
Thank you for your continued understanding and support. -Ukyo
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WeExchange verification requests are still being looked at if and when there is time not being spent towards other important problems such as getting users their bitcoins. This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed and resolved fully as soon as possible.
I agree. Thank you for your understanding in this.
quite frankly this is hard to understand. why is it hard for you to sign bitcoin transactions and push them to the net? It has worked before automatically, why did it stop working and you have to do everything manually now? As I have written multiple places and times. It is not hard to sign a bitcoin transaction. The issue is the bitcoind program locking up.
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bitfunder is under maintainance , is it normal to take bit longer offline? what happen
Logging system filled hard disks before the archive server could pull the data. This has been fixed now.
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Just so people know, October withdraws are still processing. So if your November it will still be a bit.
-Ukyo
Can you send me my 0.21229770 BTC, please? I'm probably later in the queue but its a small amount. If I did that for everyone, it would not be fair to everyone else. There are plenty of people with same size or smaller. I get the same question from people with larger amounts. "It's a large amount and should be more important." It is not. I am trying to get through this as fast as possible and as fair as possible. I doubt you would feel happy if I told you that you were passed over for whatever reason. Thank you for your understanding. -Ukyo
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Yes, in between processing withdraws my time is mostly spent redesigning the wallet system to be able to handle large business needs. Right now I am doing the tests using a new wallet since the old one is tied up 24/7 with withdraws.
-Ukyo
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Just so people know, October withdraws are still processing. So if your November it will still be a bit.
-Ukyo
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I can login to bitfunder just fine. I just asked several others who could as well. US users are blocked from trading on BitFunder and BitFunder will continue to try it's best to make sure US users can not trade on BitFunder. WeExchange verification requests are still being looked at if and when there is time not being spent towards other important problems such as getting users their bitcoins. This is a very serious problem that needs to be addressed and resolved fully as soon as possible.
Thank you for your understanding in this.
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If you need a withdraw canceled to to inputs.io open a new ticket with the name "INPUTS.IO WITHDRAW CANCEL" so it can be grabbed quickly and recognized as a simple cancel request, otherwise your withdraw will get run when it manuals come around.
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Update: my coins finally reached their destination. People rest assured help is on its way. Ukyo, I appreciate your persistence. Please note there is a delay from when the transaction says completed in weexchange and when the coins actually reach your mtgox account. I'd say 1-2 hour delay.
Since gox does not deposit until transactions get to.. 6? confirms, it could easily take an hour or more sometimes. -Ukyo
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Ok so it's now showing the transaction has completed and my mtgox account is still empty. What now??? When will the BTC show up in my account?
Mtgox is having their own btc issues. From just now as we speak in #mtgox If you click on 'funds' and 'details' next to where it says complete, you can see the bitcoin transaction id. Put that into blockchain.info and you can see the transfer. Feel free to post it here as well. I am sure others would feel better knowing that transfers are definitely going out.
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2013-10-26 07:56:34 Withdraw 1.50017354 BTC Processing
Well, my ticket was resolved and this withdrawal (and two others) were successfully performed today This was a cancel and additional withdraw attempt when things were mostly working. If you want your funds simply canceled for another withdraw attempt feel free to pm me the ticket id. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=316546.msg3502191#msg3502191Manual withdraws started on the 6th.
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2013-10-08 20:40:28 SEZ-232108
Still hasn't been dealt with... Only looking at tickets about withdrawals?
That is a bitfunder ticket. WeExchange issues are the main focus at the moment. -Ukyo
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Finally have an update. After trying and trying, and talking to sipa in #bitcoin-dev: [13:34] <Ukyo> hey guys. I got an issues with bitcoind. a. wallet size causes it to take 5~10 miuntes to load. b. as soon as send is issued, it maxes cpu/ram until restarted, and takes about 10~20 minutes until it announces to the network [13:34] <Ukyo> and then rpc times out after that [13:34] <sipa> how many keys/transactions? [13:34] <Ukyo> over ten thousand easily [13:35] <sipa> there have been some improvements to that recently in head [13:36] <Ukyo> so this is kind of a known issue for the size? i.e. bitcoind isnt really meant for the size and its something being worked on? [13:37] <sipa> it wasn't designed for it, no
I wanted to say thanks real quick to Warren on irc who is a Litecoin dev who is helping me to straighten this out and make sure there is no problem in the future. As it stands, I have started initiating manual withdraws. It takes about 20 to 30 minutes between each one as mentioned in the above irc quote so please bare with me for a bit. We are going through tickets trying to get things caught up in proper order for fairness. If you get your withdraw, please post and let people know. I will continue to work on this 24/7 excluding unintentional sleeps as I have been for the last week now. I hope to get all withdraws caught up very shortly. Thank you for your patience and understand, Ukyo
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We do not depend on bitcoind for deposits. We monitor the network for deposits, as well as forks, etc.
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I am trying to at least get a post in daily. I really did not think bitcoind would buckle under such a reasonable increase in usage and it is the worst time.
I am here. I am not going anywhere. WeExchange has big news coming very soon. I can not afford for this to continue this way. I feel very embarrassed and ashamed at this point that I chose to rely on bitcoind and have caused so many problems with it at the worst possible time.
Thank you very much for your patience and understanding. When your withdraws are canceled or possibly pushed through, I ask that you please mention it here so others can see progress as it happens.
-Ukyo
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