I agree with you, digital currency has its downsides especially until not every human on earth is connected to internet and has computer. This idea with paper currency backed by Bitcoin is probably best solution. It would overcome many problems and people would probably get used to it pretty fast. But are there any new problems that would appear with this solution?
Well yeah. Private issuance means there is no verifiability. We all know how this works. The issuer of the paper notes issues far more notes than there are bitcoins to back them up. Their ability to issue new notes amounts to an ability to steal from everybody else ad libitum. A better way to transact offline is to use a bitcoin check (private key on a piece of paper with some information). This requires you have some trust or KYC but that's really not such an uncommon thing in most of our transactions. Each transaction in this case winds up being put on the chain eventually, when the payee is finally able to get online... and if they never do (or not within an agreed upon time), the payer keeps a copy and can claw back the funds.
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we have enabled WOODCOIN mining over at L8nit3-minersStratum URL: stratum+tcp://107.161.95.108:5233 Username: Your wallet address Password: c=LOG Pool ANN Thread: BCT ANN#GetMining ^ ^ ^ Nice soundtrack
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i added your nodes, but still no confirmations, here the tx id 803377fd57c36a8bde74cd3698b8bb972b50acd89f68db287450a7583405de32
Well it looks like it finally was included 77 blocks ago. The networking portion of the clients I have worked on is identical to that for satoshi-client based bitcoin nodes - if a published transaction does not appear in the blockchain, it will periodically be rebroadcast. It probably would be good to have some fine tuning for this functionality (like "resubmit TX now" button). Maybe in the next version. For now if this happens again you can use the command line or debug console: gettransaction [txid] to get the raw transaction in hex, and then copy that hex rawtx and use sendrawtransaction [rawtx] to manually resubmit it to the network. Again, with some patience, this will happen automatically. I'm glad to see it worked eventually, thanks for your feedback!
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木币狮子来 Who can add woodcoin logo please
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yeah but 17 blocks in 7 hours is way below the average of two minutes per blocks, which would have been 210 blocks in 7 hours, the 30 block with diff 80 in 14 minutes can't close this gap, so i see that some blocks are like skipped, not sure if this is the correct word ah by the way i sent 150 log with the old 1.0.0 client and now they are stuck with no cinfirmations for 1 days already, how can i solve this?
Good morning! Yeah, I'm not sure if skipped is the right word (the blocks still come in a numbered sequence with no numbers skipped) but you are right that the total number of blocks per day decreases. Take a look at the chart for "Transactions" here: http://cryptoguru.tk/Charts/index.php?Currency=LOGEverywhere it dips below 500 per day, we have kangaroo miners hopping across the outback with logs in their pocketses. Hmm that sucks a TX not confirming, can you post the TXID? It could be you aren't connected to many nodes for some reason. Add this to your woodcoin.conf file: addnode=217.77.59.45 addnode=96.33.131.50 addnode=73.61.69.113 addnode=80.229.163.230 addnode=92.214.191.144 addnode=83.252.17.134 addnode=76.64.74.218 addnode=163.172.28.249 addnode=92.170.141.48 addnode=67.205.162.80 addnode=163.172.90.105 addnode=199.231.215.253 addnode=104.236.96.120 addnode=5.9.233.99 addnode=23.242.89.131 addnode=50.166.119.69 addnode=67.35.116.81 addnode=199.231.215.252 addnode=167.114.103.43 addnode=185.86.148.224 addnode=110.10.176.94 addnode=45.55.152.37 addnode=106.185.41.253 addnode=159.203.76.85 addnode=82.144.204.28 There are some issues with the network interfacing between these clients. I have not adjusted any parameters from those found in the "core" implementation because: this should be a learning experience for us. I mean seriously, some clients are programmed to consider another one "friend" or "enemy" based on whether the other reports a certain version name. Can anybody defend this behavior?
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Ah so it's working? That icon on the woodcoin client looks like the older version? How about with woodcore-RC1 version ?
i didn't try but it ask me to change the rpcallowip for non local ip it same it can't allow * in the rpcallowip, what should i put there i'm not familiar with this? also i think there is something wrong with this coin, because with 1/3 of the net i can't find much block many block are solved by no one it see, i think i identified the problem, the diff retarget it's weird, if the net hashrate stay the same i see that the diff increase anyway 4x, this should not happen can you look into it? Hi Ayers - The net hashrate isn't staying the same. There are miners hopping on the low difficulty and then moving off when it goes up. You can see historically that when that hasn't happened, the difficulty is more constant. Lets do the math ourselves for an exercise: 506340 2017-05-07 07:24:52 80.22 506369 2017-05-07 07:38:57 80.22 506370 2017-05-07 07:45:03 320.88 506387 2017-05-07 15:20:25 320.88 So we see in the first period, with difficulty 80, 30 blocks were solved in 14 minutes This is about four times faster than our 2 minute per block target. So, we adjust the difficulty to four times higher. In the second period with diff 320, 17 blocks were solved in 7 hrs plus. Clearly, hashpower has left the network. We are going to drop the difficulty to a factor of four lower (that's the maximum difficulty adjust we allow). We have discussed changing the difficulty adjust algo to minimize this kind of behavior but the general consensus is that it isn't worth the trouble. Eventually people will realize they are wasting their time with this kind of thing and we should see smooth sailing, and in the meantime - hey the coin still works.
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Ah so it's working? That icon on the woodcoin client looks like the older version? How about with woodcore-RC1 version ?
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i get this [...] firewall is allowing the client, can't be that, everything else is right
Thanks! Hmm that's odd.. if you open the help-debugWindow-console on qt and type "getwork" does it give you a response? It should give you something like 08:30:15  getwork 08:30:15  { "midstate": "90b87f7ab77f090b87f7ab77f030b87f7ab77f0000e1dc3b77f0000", "data": "20000001696c8b1916e274be0459f7781a81fce409bc0465a5f0ad5afd0c4ec29503fed64cd43db 62d43c836740aa8769f3adc96398969c44c3e276b3336dc590b1ed7110000000000000080000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000080020 000", "hash1": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000800000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000010000", "target": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000081080100000000" } yeah that is correct i get this  { "midstate" : "660687c4f173fd3523fdd2670581c3353b15de37bc45fb0bda55e94d70222cb5", "data" : "00000002d54673048f4ce9d7580aed82e9443e7513aa9c36d871f106d7b660d5b995bea2032b931 c8cddb42ef1beead18e9dcbbb8adaef5a0795e70a1e8114b2a6d870a1590b25d31c010881000000 0000000080000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0000000000080020000", "hash1" : "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000800000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000010000", "target" : "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000081080100000000" } Shoot, well in that case you do have the right version set up, but something else is going wrong. My apologies Ayers. For now I recommend you go back to using the old client or the pool. While the newer client is spiffier it won't help you chop wood faster, nor are the logs a different quality. I'll keep trying to fix this. Take a look at this thread to see other disgruntled miners trying to use ccminer: https://www.dash.org/forum/threads/solved-solo-mining.5911/Epsylon3 do you have any advice for us?
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i get this [...] firewall is allowing the client, can't be that, everything else is right
Thanks! Hmm that's odd.. if you open the help-debugWindow-console on qt and type "getwork" does it give you a response? It should give you something like 08:30:15  getwork 08:30:15  { "midstate": "90b87f7ab77f090b87f7ab77f030b87f7ab77f0000e1dc3b77f0000", "data": "20000001696c8b1916e274be0459f7781a81fce409bc0465a5f0ad5afd0c4ec29503fed64cd43db 62d43c836740aa8769f3adc96398969c44c3e276b3336dc590b1ed7110000000000000080000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000080020 000", "hash1": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000800000000000000 0000000000000000000000000000000000000010000", "target": "0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000081080100000000" }
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i tried that version but i get getwork failed, everythign is correctly set and config is good? what's wrong?
Thanks Ayers, can you post the errors?
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LOL - I was waiting for others since the Windows build set off all kinds of alarms on my A/V. Your first version with "getwork" did not set off my alarms. So sometimes i like to wait because I am not the most technical person when it comes to A/V.
Whoa! That's a little strange. Those alarms come sometimes because some malware uses your computer to mine coins, and our code does that (that's what we are doing here, except we keep the rewards). The exact same alarms should go off if you run litecoin-core client or bitcoin-core client, seeing as it's the same code. If you are worried the executable has been tampered with you can compare to the checksum I posted. At any rate, you are using a windows machine so you know for a fact it is compromised. Don't store life-changing amounts of any coin on there if it is online. Thanks for testing
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is that the oldest one that support solo mining? or i can choose a version which is more recent? i see that all the old version need compiling, do you have this version compiled please, i can't compile myself, thanks
If you are looking for a windows build there are two here: https://github.com/woodcoin-core/woodcoin-windows/woodcoin-qt is the version mentioned above, built from the pre-core satoshi codebase woodcore-qt is the "core" version, built on the bitcoin-core codebase, and so doesn't support the "Getwork" rpc call, nor the setgenerate-true built in cpu miner. You can also try : https://github.com/woodcoin-core/woodcoin-windows/blob/master/RC1/woodcoin-qt.exewhich DOES have "getwork" built on top of the "core" codebase, but this is currently untested. Has anybody tried it? Pokeytex? I'm curious if it works.
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Hey thanks bathrobehero I am going to read the code on the coins you mention and do some more research. I don't think having multi-algos eliminates the threat of a 51% attack or double spend, but it could make it more difficult in some circumstances. If there is a liquid market of hashpower, see e.g. nicehash, then one can always buy the hashpower one needs to make an attack. Anyway I am going to take a closer look at the consensus mechanism. If we were to shift to a multi-algo system, what other hash functions do you think would be appropriate, other than double-skein?
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At the moment, only 2% of the world's population knows about bitcoin. And maybe even less. Therefore, it makes no sense to talk about the opposition of the dollar and bitcoin. Bitcoin is popular only in a small community, and the dollar is popular all over the world
It all depends on the state of the U.S. economy. If for any reason the dollar collapses the world will be looking for a new reserve currency. Why this currency may not be bitcoin? The modern world is changing very fast and we don't know what can happen tomorrow. Behave yourself bro. Bitcoin can't be a reserve currency while there are early adopting people like Roger Ver with hundreds/thousands of bitcoins in their wallets who will be holding their coins no matter what the price will become in the future. If bitcoin ever becomes a reserve currency, people like those early adopters will become so rich that they will be able to buy countries. Nobody can allow that. "Nobody can allow that". Well. What happened to the USA? And so many other places? Exactly what you describe. However, with fiat, the people who have "a lot in their wallets" really have an unlimited amount in their wallets. "Let me issue the currency and I care not who makes the laws" etc. etc. They can issue as much as they like at any time, and if you are willing to part for your resources in exchange for this paper, you are easily bought out. With bitcoin and other public cryptos the amount is limited. Bitcoin represents the end of financial colonialism. About fucking time
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Completed trade meeting in person. Thanks! Legit, will trade again
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This is why having multiple algorithms in parallel is beneficial (if done well); optimally, when an algo is stuck at high difficulty, the retarget can reduce that algo's difficulty every time a block is found on another algo for a much smoother retarget. With one algo, the difficulty retarget can only ever change the difficulty once a block is found. Which is where there are constant overshoots both ways.
Ineteresting, yes I like the myriadcoin approach. I think the difficulties of each algo there retarget independently from each other. It's interesting that 30 blocks to retarget (at 1 block per 2 minutes) appears slow; compared to LTC or BTC this difficulty adjust is lightning fast. At various points over the last couple years we've talked about changing the difficulty adjust and/or POW algorithm of LOG. Anything is possible if this is too annoying to deal with. A change to a myriad-like network is attractive, what do you think? Another possibility offering even more stability is moving to a merge-mined system. However it seems that our fluctuating difficulty is not really such a headache. Hop miners are still adding their hashpower to secure the network. As we grow in size these effects will be relatively smaller.
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how can you do a double spend with 51%? i keep hearing about this but i'm curious to now the procedure, don't worry i don't have the gpu to do it lol
Step 1) Start mining your own Foocoin chain without publishing it. Include other transactions you hear on the network if you like, or don't. Up to you. What's important is that that you are solving blocks on this private fork with more hashpower than the rest of the network all put together. Step 2) Make a large purchase using a Foocoin transaction. Publish this transaction on the public chain, but NOT the one you are mining on privately. On your private chain, make a transaction moving those Foocoin to another address you control (this is the double spend). Step 3) Once the transaction is complete and you have walked away with your goods, publish the private chain you have been working on. Because it has 51% of the network hashpower, it is now the longest chain and nodes will reorganize their block chains to reflect this "new" history. And presto, the block chain no longer shows the transactions in step 2 - the foocoins are back in your control - and yet you still have the goods. An old article from now defunkt blog on the topic if you are interested to hear more : https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160827095420/http://frass.woodcoin.org/godzilla-vs-the-51-attack/
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with this very low hashrate this coin is at danger of an attack, how do we know if this coin is not being 51%'ed and the attacker is already double spending on the exchange? the explorer say somethign about it? i ask because i see huge hash appearing and disappearing
Thanks for asking Ayers Rather astonishing swings of hash rate last week!! I've never seen anything like it on any other coin. In addition to price changes, and pools going off and online, the drive-by woodcutter is back in full effect. Yes the network has been undergoing this stress-test off and on for almost a year now. It does appear that there is a single entity which controls enough hashpower to perform a 51% attack. However they only leave it on for short bursts of time, and there has never been a report of a doublespent transaction, in private or from any exchange. Lets put it this way: on no exchanges is woodcoin the lowest hashrate coin (or most 51%able) to choose from. My agents tell me that this party probably has somewhere from 20 to 80 top of the line nvidia GPUs they are throwing at our network. However just like bitcoin, there could also be efficiency increases in performing the hash algorithm. The question of why is an interesting one, it doesn't appear the the technique does much for our drive-by wood cutter apart from an upward pressure on the price and a some extra time to mine another coin with the rig during the high difficulty times. It could be an exploratory technique. At any rate, the concern is a real one. I believe exchanges that accept small-cap currencies without any know-your-customer do so carefully, not just by requiring multiple confirms but also by delaying any large withdraws from accounts that have recently input small-cap deposits, with random delays, and with maximum withdraws per day. I believe we'll see more double-spend attacks on small-cap coin exchanges in the future, so your warning is a good one.
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This update kicking your arse? Any progress on getwork for windows wallet? Thanks - pokeytex
Heya pokey! Try this one out and see if it does anything. I built myself but haven't tested on windows or with ccminer yet, so I would put the chances of it working out of the box somewhere in the slim to middlin' range. https://github.com/woodcoin-core/woodcoin-windows/tree/master/RC1sha256sum *.exe 869faaf0645dc445e2ccb1e4cdf9f454bd9edf28bbe9dd10eac5e040328b9250 woodcoin-cli.exe 42d8d49c7291e96218624752f8e60488f14f890e306e43e2fc2e6b8518018681 woodcoind.exe e0b82e9298fbcb64e6f39e775ba92bd2a3f6161b48a73aa5bf7e5ff82be84b5f woodcoin-qt.exe 29299257a0671dd15005b79817f6b9cbc6a19fc7e57f9e63a771081509852c48 woodcoin-tx.exe
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Aye aye cap'n crunch,
Well that's odd, I still haven't gotten this thing to link properly to boost libraries using HOST=x86_64-w65-mingw32. And now my afternoon time limit is up.
My apologies once again. In the meantime, mine with the old version please, I'll bang my head against this thing again tomorrow.
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