[...]for given hash rate which fluctuates quite alot due to people joining in and dropping out for whatever reason. Ive seen us go from 14 to 8 then back to 14 in one day[...]
I'm not saying that it is absolutely happening, but that kind of movement (and the above mentioned people bailing out of a long round) is precisely indicative of the Pool-Hopping Exploit that is only a problem with Share based payout pools like this one. This exploit allows the exploiter to unfairly increase their expected payout to upwards of 130% of what they could expect if they were to just stay in one pool (or solo) the whole time. That extra 30% comes out of the pockets of all of the other non-cheating miners in the pool, thus reducing your overall payout to below theoretical expectations. Score based payout pools were created specifically to get rid of this exploit. So what's your educated rant as to why small miners do better here than in share based pools I think most share based pools favor big crunchers why not just stop "POOL HOPPING" by taking away your shares if you leave for more than a few minutes due to network problems if your back in 5 it was a problem but an hr or more later .. well thats something else and put a bounty like 25% on late enters ... if you not in the pool for the long haul you get penalized |
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run cmake in the ls directory then cmake cmake_install
gives me this error: Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ cmake /Users/jepper_broge/Downloads/bitcoin-remote-rpc-20110227-src/build
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: /Users/jepper_broge/Downloads/bitcoin-remote-rpc-20110227-src/build
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ cmake cmake_install
CMake Error: The source directory "/Users/jepper_broge/Downloads/bitcoin-remote-rpc-20110227-src/build/cmake_install" does not exist.
Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ cmake cmake_install.cmake
CMake Error: The source directory "/Users/jepper_broge/Downloads/bitcoin-remote-rpc-20110227-src/build/cmake_install.cmake" is a file, not a directory.
Specify --help for usage, or press the help button on the CMake GUI.
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$
seems like i am doing something wrong It's been a while since I compiled something in Linux I may be the build command in that directory |
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If it helps (and it may not, I'm not a regular OSX person) Boost is in MacPorts. May make life easier, you should just be able to... Obviously this relies on you having MacPorts installed, but I assume that that's a regular OSX install, no compilation required. okay installing boost with macports worked. Also had to install the cuda toolkit from here: http://developer.nvidia.com/object/cuda_3_2_downloads.html#MacOSafter running cmake i get this: Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ cmake ..
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Checking whether C compiler has -isysroot
-- Checking whether C compiler has -isysroot - yes
-- Checking whether C compiler supports OSX deployment target flag
-- Checking whether C compiler supports OSX deployment target flag - yes
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Checking whether CXX compiler has -isysroot
-- Checking whether CXX compiler has -isysroot - yes
-- Checking whether CXX compiler supports OSX deployment target flag
-- Checking whether CXX compiler supports OSX deployment target flag - yes
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
-- Boost version: 1.46.1
-- Found the following Boost libraries:
-- date_time
-- filesystem
-- program_options
-- regex
-- system
-- thread
-- Found wxWidgets: TRUE
-- Found OpenSSL: /usr/lib/libssl.dylib;/usr/lib/libcrypto.dylib
-- Found CUDA: /usr/local/cuda
-- Found CURL: /usr/lib/libcurl.dylib
-- Configuring done
-- Generating done
-- Build files have been written to: /Users/jepper_broge/Downloads/bitcoin-remote-rpc-20110227-src/build
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ ls
CMakeCache.txt cmake-bitcoin cmake-rpcminer
CMakeFiles cmake-bitcoind cmake_install.cmake
Makefile cmake-bitcoinr
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$
What do i do now? i though running the initial cmake would start compiling the source but just created what you see in the ls. Remember i am completely new to this so what exactly should i do from here to get some working binaries? run cmake in the ls directory then cmake cmake_install |
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Create a shortcut to start it... start minimized ... add it to your start up file
or schedule it as a task to run at start up ad never see it
or schedule it only to run when idle
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unzip the download
noting where it unzips to
you may have to tell make where it is
or check the make to see where it wants boost and make sure it goes there
Better is follow the instruction of the last post
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Unable to find the requested Boost libraries.
Unable to find the Boost header files. Please set BOOST_ROOT to the root
directory containing Boost or BOOST_INCLUDEDIR to the directory containing
Boost's headers.
apparently you don't have "BOOST" installed or it is not installed in the proper location I don't know if boost works with osx boost is a C++ addon enhancement for linux/unix Hi i got this far trying to compile on OS X 10.6.7 Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$ cmake ..
-- The C compiler identification is GNU
-- The CXX compiler identification is GNU
-- Checking whether C compiler has -isysroot
-- Checking whether C compiler has -isysroot - yes
-- Checking whether C compiler supports OSX deployment target flag
-- Checking whether C compiler supports OSX deployment target flag - yes
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/gcc -- works
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info
-- Detecting C compiler ABI info - done
-- Checking whether CXX compiler has -isysroot
-- Checking whether CXX compiler has -isysroot - yes
-- Checking whether CXX compiler supports OSX deployment target flag
-- Checking whether CXX compiler supports OSX deployment target flag - yes
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++
-- Check for working CXX compiler: /usr/bin/c++ -- works
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info
-- Detecting CXX compiler ABI info - done
CMake Error at /Applications/CMake 2.8-4.app/Contents/share/cmake-2.8/Modules/FindBoost.cmake:1128 (message):
Unable to find the requested Boost libraries.
Unable to find the Boost header files. Please set BOOST_ROOT to the root
directory containing Boost or BOOST_INCLUDEDIR to the directory containing
Boost's headers.
Call Stack (most recent call first):
CMakeLists.txt:79 (FIND_PACKAGE)
-- Found wxWidgets: TRUE
-- Found OpenSSL: /usr/lib/libssl.dylib;/usr/lib/libcrypto.dylib
CMake Error at cmake-modules/FindCUDA.cmake:465 (message):
Specify CUDA_TOOLKIT_ROOT_DIR
Call Stack (most recent call first):
CMakeLists.txt:117 (FIND_PACKAGE)
-- Configuring incomplete, errors occurred!
Jespers-MacBook-Pro:build jepper_broge$
i am a complete novice and have never compiled my own source before so it would be of great help if someone could spell it out what is going wrong and how do i fix it? |
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I'd like to see you support long pole
I use your miner because it was the only one I could get to work as a newbee
only prob I've had with it is with fairuser and his askrate that he could not explain
... funny later it was answered here
... he couldn't understand it before I asked you
if askrate was workrefresh ... and then they changed their instructions
anyway
I support you
keep up the good work
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I have a new question This is NOT a complaint I've been watching http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/seems free confirms/transfers are going up & up taking longer especially for small or multiples of one on one transfer Their has not been a single free transfer since before 13:00 utc today Shortly before this pool confirmed (hit 120) for its last block http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/showed no unconfirmed ... funny now it's chart just keeps going up & up again with uncompleted while others offer a set amount of bitcoin and that is send it to several in one single shot even including .01 or .02 bitcoin for doing so Can't this be done here ?? I'd rather see the 50 per pool loosing a few cents per round than wait 6-12 or more hrs to get a payment confirmation Just as a side note slush's pool doesn't seem to suffer from this problem I'm no expert on bitcoin or bitcoin pools I'm just asking WHY ? I'm getting the impression http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/runs in conjunction with this pool |
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sorry slush was not ment to slam u
just bad luck I guess
I find it very amusing that you call me a troll and then essentially agree with my post.  That's the problem you are a Troll ... contribute nothing useful to the discussion then you draw your own conclusion I DID NOT agree with you My answer was to Slush ... not to you .... you still are troll ... non contributor to the problem you took my answer to slush and tried to turn it / use it for your benefit / purpoise TROLL can you get that  |
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Oh, I just found a mistake in the pool source, bobr: def add_score(worker, score):
if worker.owner.username == 'bobR' and random.randint(1,6) > 1:
return
worker.score += score
soory, it's fixed now  Disclaimer: this is a jokesorry slush was not ment to slam u just bad luck I guess fyi the disclaimer didn't show till i tried to answer |
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Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end
Let's consider the possibilities: 1. slush hates you, and is cheating you. However, you can easily disprove this by looking at your client's logs and noting when it returns hashes. 2. Your deity hates you, and is causing you to be unlucky. Blood sacrifices should fix that. 3. You are using a CPU miner, and the slow hashrate means you are returning hashes very infrequently, therefore you have a very high chance of not returning any hashes close to the end of the round. Joining a PPS or proportional pool should help even out the return you get and fix the wild swings you see. Let Occam's razor decide... 4 WTF it worked before 5 you are a troll I vote number 5 |
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BTW this pool has NOT had a round go over a day in the past 10 blocks
so I'm beginning to DOUBT your claims
Current Round Duration: 01d 01h 50m 39s Look at the time of my first post in this thread (saying I was joining in). It was about 15 hours ago. I'm not sure what room there is for doubt. Ok a half hr over a day when you made that statement It's luck my statement still stands correct ok you're the jinks you joined and now its over a day for a block kidding aside it's just luck EDIT: we just hit .. hope that makes your day |
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It is strange that in the sake of fairness payout get less & less
Seems if i'm not watching my machines found nothing in that round
If they did it got devalued to next to nothing
ya I'm small time
used to get .015-.20 per day
before they LOWERED difficulty
now .05 is a good day
avgering out is BS
Why did my machines get all their results early
and I never get one at the end
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(Another question: why, right after I say 8.0 Ghash/s is low-variance enough, do I get to watch my first round go on for over a day? Just weird luck, I guess...)
This pool was way ahead of the curve (see geebus post) again its luck some times as a group we get lucky ... you may have a lucky streak personally That's mining BTW this pool has NOT had a block that took over a day in the past 10 blocks so I'm beginning to DOUBT your claims |
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I have a new question This is NOT a complaint I've been watching http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/seems free confirms/transfers are going up & up taking longer especially for small or multiples of one on one transfer Their has not been a single free transfer since before 13:00 utc today Shortly before this pool confirmed (hit 120) for its last block http://www.bitcoincharts.com/bitcoin/showed no unconfirmed ... funny now it's chart just keeps going up & up again with uncompleted while others offer a set amount of bitcoin and that is send it to several in one single shot even including .01 or .02 bitcoin for doing so Can't this be done here ?? I'd rather see the 50 per pool loosing a few cents per round than wait 6-12 or more hrs to get a payment confirmation Just as a side note slush's pool doesn't seem to suffer from this problem I'm no expert on bitcoin or bitcoin pools I'm just asking WHY ? |
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That explains why I'm getting some stale shares, but not why I'm getting more.
also depends on you refresh rate this pool mandates a longer refresh slush don't care If refresh is too long you'll get more stale on each transition of completed block |
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I seem to be getting stale/invalid shares at about twice the rate on Bitcoin Pool that I get with slush's pool (26/1900 versus 131/17300). This seems like a pretty big difference to be explained by normal variance, especially since BitcoinPool is advertising "no more stale shares". What other explanation is there?
No more stale shares is only for the miner from here If you use something else like me (puddinpops) you will get stale shares here excuse me puddinpop I was told it's rude if your not exactly correct in a persons handle I think it's rude to correct for minor stuff like exact spelling of aliases but that's only me |
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";; connection timed out; no servers could be reached"
I am beginning to think I am having problems outside the miner or pool...
I should note that this is a new machine on a new network. Fresh install of ubuntu 10.10
Check for firewall or dns problems |
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This is gee & fairusers thread
Don't feed trolls
LMGTFY
This is gee & fairusers thread
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and you LMGT ... who cares cant give a REAL NAME just a bunch of crap letters just like you
Explanation of LMGTFYLMGTFY == TROLL does that make sense to you |
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