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121  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL single cgminer config file for Windows 7 on: May 25, 2012, 07:56:10 AM
So i can't get easyminer to work because the mining options are greyed out. Ufasoft runs for a split second and disappears. I cant seem to get Cgminer to detect the fpgas.

Can someone please post a working cgminer config script? I can add the com port and the pool in the text, i just can't figure the overall scan and enable portion of the config file.

Thanks


You can use BitMinter; It's known for its simple yet advanced GUI and ease-of-use.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

I've tried that too. The java window just pops up and disappears.

Do you have an Anti-virus or any similar application installed? Is your Java Runtime Machine
up to date?



Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
122  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 25, 2012, 07:46:24 AM
I've also got the problem with the mining options being greyed out.

BFL: Do you have any guess as what the issue is? I have Windows 7 Home Premium.

Mining feature is still not present in Easyminer. We'll finilize it as soon as our schedule permits us
to do so.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
123  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL single cgminer config file for Windows 7 on: May 25, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
So i can't get easyminer to work because the mining options are greyed out. Ufasoft runs for a split second and disappears. I cant seem to get Cgminer to detect the fpgas.

Can someone please post a working cgminer config script? I can add the com port and the pool in the text, i just can't figure the overall scan and enable portion of the config file.

Thanks


You can use BitMinter; It's known for its simple yet advanced GUI and ease-of-use.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
124  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 24, 2012, 03:16:22 PM
Hi, I have my BFL's up and running but wanted to flash them.. the only windows machine I have here is running VISTA (my normal mining is all on Linux), so i grabbed the EasyMiner_V_1.1_Beta to see if I could flash one with the higher firmware, but cant get it to run.... my device manager shows the one BFL Single i plugged in properly on COM3 (well COM3 appeared when i plug it in), but when I open EasyMiner, (the only option available is "administrative mode") and click "Proceed", I get the windows dialog "BitFORCE-Miner has stopped working  A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available"

Any idea how to fix this?

James


Hello James,

One possibility is that windows is denying access to COM port. This can be resolved if you right-click on Easyminer
and click on 'Run as administrator'. Please run this test and let us know how it goes. Of course, I must add that
Windows Vista is probably the worst operating system ever developed since the Big Bang.

Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

Nope still the same problem, I've tried the various compatibility modes as well, still no luck.  Also, tried it on a windowsXP VM i had here (VirtualBox) and get the samet thing!

No arguments from my side about window (especially vista) sucking, so that begs the question, where's the linux based firmware updater?? Smiley I don't want to use your easyminer software to mine, i just want to flash the singles then put them back on my Linux machines.

James


Is there any other COM devices or virtual COM devices connected to your computer?



Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

Nope, only the one listed in Device Manager

->Ports (COM & LPT)
  -> USB Serial Port (COM3)





I must say that this is very strange. Easyminer is compiled under XP with .NET version 2.0. It's the first instance of
such failure. We will investigate the issue and come back with some response. Has this computer ever been infected with
virus or trojans before?


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
125  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 24, 2012, 03:11:01 PM
Hi, I have my BFL's up and running but wanted to flash them.. the only windows machine I have here is running VISTA (my normal mining is all on Linux), so i grabbed the EasyMiner_V_1.1_Beta to see if I could flash one with the higher firmware, but cant get it to run.... my device manager shows the one BFL Single i plugged in properly on COM3 (well COM3 appeared when i plug it in), but when I open EasyMiner, (the only option available is "administrative mode") and click "Proceed", I get the windows dialog "BitFORCE-Miner has stopped working  A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available"

Any idea how to fix this?

James


Hello James,

One possibility is that windows is denying access to COM port. This can be resolved if you right-click on Easyminer
and click on 'Run as administrator'. Please run this test and let us know how it goes. Of course, I must add that
Windows Vista is probably the worst operating system ever developed since the Big Bang.

Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

Nope still the same problem, I've tried the various compatibility modes as well, still no luck.  Also, tried it on a windowsXP VM i had here (VirtualBox) and get the samet thing!

No arguments from my side about window (especially vista) sucking, so that begs the question, where's the linux based firmware updater?? Smiley I don't want to use your easyminer software to mine, i just want to flash the singles then put them back on my Linux machines.

James


Is there any other COM devices or virtual COM devices connected to your computer?



Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
126  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 24, 2012, 02:35:16 PM
Hi, I have my BFL's up and running but wanted to flash them.. the only windows machine I have here is running VISTA (my normal mining is all on Linux), so i grabbed the EasyMiner_V_1.1_Beta to see if I could flash one with the higher firmware, but cant get it to run.... my device manager shows the one BFL Single i plugged in properly on COM3 (well COM3 appeared when i plug it in), but when I open EasyMiner, (the only option available is "administrative mode") and click "Proceed", I get the windows dialog "BitFORCE-Miner has stopped working  A problem caused the program to stop working correctly. Windows will close the program and notify you if a solution is available"

Any idea how to fix this?

James


Hello James,

One possibility is that windows is denying access to COM port. This can be resolved if you right-click on Easyminer
and click on 'Run as administrator'. Please run this test and let us know how it goes. Of course, I must add that
Windows Vista is probably the worst operating system ever developed since the Big Bang.

Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
127  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 23, 2012, 11:11:29 PM
Just unpacked the singles - 1 of 6 sounds like the heatsink is loose -- rattles horribly.

Also - 1 of the singles shows loaded with the 816 firmware?!?

Anyone else get a single that DIDN'T come from the factory with 832 firmware?

For trouble-shooting, you can refer to http://www.butterflylabs.com/faq/
to resolve your throttling issue. Also, for the firmware, you can use Easyminer
to change the version.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
128  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 23, 2012, 02:45:09 PM
Has anyone else noticed how the heatpipe cooler on the rev3 doesn't really cover the second FPGA? It is short by about 5cm. The center of the chip is covered but one whole side is left open.

I noticed this also. If this heatpipe is really custom made the job wasn't done good.

I'm thinking about putting a metal plate between the FPGA's and the heatpipe. This metal plate should cover the full area of both FPGA's and transfer it to the heatpipe. Maybe this could improve the cooling which is obviously mainly limited by the only parted covered FPGA.

Has someone already done this?


Adding any additional substance will only increase thermal resistance and makes cooling less efficient.
The aluminium plate which the heatsink sits on, is a by itself a heat-spreader directly attached to the die inside.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
129  Other / Off-topic / Re: Max power draw for the fan header on the BFL single? on: May 23, 2012, 01:16:07 PM
High-Current fans are not recommended. The reason is their inductive load and the noise injected to the power plane of the
board. The protection diode placed before the FAN header can withstand max 5A of current. So this sets the upper limit to 5A,
which translates into 60W on 12 Volts rails. This amount of power, along with the power consumption of the board itself can
exceed the Barrel Jack current rating, which is why we advise not to take any risks in this regard.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
Are there 2 different diodes, one for each header? Or just one that covers both of them?
Also, if the barrel jack was replaced with something else, would the board itself support that current draw without issues? I'm guessing the warranty would be void in this case. Wink

There is enough copper on the board to support maybe 20A on 12V rails. However, doing so will void the warranty,
and should be done at users own risk. Each fan header has a protection diode and a small stabilizing/filter capacitor.

EDIT:
I would also think that if someone is willing to take an extreme measure for cooling (speaking about minimum several units),
then it would be best to buy a split Air-Conditioner to get the job done. It will consume about 480W (samsung series),
and if the target is 20 singles for instance, then it would be equivalent to an additional 24W per single.

Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
130  Other / Off-topic / Re: Max power draw for the fan header on the BFL single? on: May 23, 2012, 09:47:57 AM
In this thread there's a nice discussion about fans with the BFL:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60586.msg868363#msg868363

I just replaced mine with the Noiseblocker BlackSilentPro.
Sooo much more quiet (and a more healthy acoustic frequency spectrum) and about the same temperature as the stock BFL fan.



Thanks for the info Smiley Their CFM rating is lower than the stock Single one. I am thinking if one is going to put these somewhere far away a higher CFM fan would be better. I found 68 CFM fans with a noise signature of 43 dBA which is a tad bit higher than the stock Rev 3 fan (32).

The question is can the fan header on the Single handle the extra current draw. Is the cooling performance noticeably improved going from 45 CFM to 68 CFM.



High-Current fans are not recommended. The reason is their inductive load and the noise injected to the power plane of the
board. The protection diode placed before the FAN header can withstand max 5A of current. So this sets the upper limit to 5A,
which translates into 60W on 12 Volts rails. This amount of power, along with the power consumption of the board itself can
exceed the Barrel Jack current rating, which is why we advise not to take any risks in this regard.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

131  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 21, 2012, 09:38:40 AM
I've flashed them a number of times, with a couple bad flashes too (something interrupted it halfway through).

Here are how they look after mining for two days:



I'll probably be taking them down tomorrow to check the thermal paste.

It seems that one of your units is throttling. You may want to check heatsink, Intake air temperature.
Please let us know how it goes.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
132  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 21, 2012, 05:59:40 AM
Update:

I tried flashing the 792 & 800 firmware & the unit still throttles (room temp 76 degrees f) & won't get over 300 mh/s.

However with the 768 firmware I can mine with room temps of up to 84 degress f @ 760 mh/s,I opened my windows just to see if the higher temps would make it throttle & no throttleing.

Next step is to turn down the A/C to 70 degrees f & keep flashing firmware,higher each time & see what happens.


Before I do,is there any limit to flashing?? I already flashed 4 times so far............don't think so,but its better to ask Wink


Also,if after all this & I still can't run anything but the 768 FW,I may try reapplying the H/S compound.Those that have done this,what compound are you using??

I always use Ceramique on CPU's & GPU's,but it's pretty thick stuff & I'm thinking it may be too thick for this application.

I've been keeping up with rkozola's issues to maybe be enlightened as my problem is similiar.

BTW,I know USB 2.0 works,but is there anything to gain with using USB 3.0 ??


Please let us know how the unit works after reapplying the H/S compound.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
133  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 20, 2012, 09:48:59 AM
Is overheating of either/both of the two fpga's the only thing that can cause throttling?  Or are there other factors that can cause a single to throttle?  I removed the heat pipe, the old paste was uniformily spread on both chips, cleaned up the old and reapplied some new stuff making sure it too was uniformily spread.  So far the highest I can go is with the 808 firmware and that might throttle a handful of times an hour.  Temperatures consistantly reported between 44-46C.  Any firmware above with throttle every 3-4 minutes.  The only thing that I forgot to check for was that both chips are sitting in the same plane, but by looking at the even distribution of the thermal paste, I would guess they are.

Also, as an FYI in case the front led stops working for any one else (or falls out like mine), the two leds on the right side will go out for about 12 seconds if the unit throttles.  Although, I did go out on a limb and was able to reattach the led that fell off.

The polarity of the LED is important. If attached in wrong polarity, it will never turn on.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
134  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 19, 2012, 09:47:25 PM
Well,I flashed the 768 firmware & viola,it's mining @ 750mh/s Grin

I expected a learning curve,so I'm not disappointed in the issues I've run into  Cool

It's a great little device & I'm very pleased with it.I'll be getting more soon!!!

Hope you guy's at BFL can get these to work a little better in a hotter enviroment,like 80 degrees.I'm in florida & to get to 72 degrees is very costly.

Thanks again for all the help guys !!!!! Cool


OK, now you can test with 792, 800 and 808. Increase firmware version one by one to find
the sweet spot. Please let us know how it goes.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
135  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 19, 2012, 08:14:39 PM
Thanks for responding BFL Wink

The light only seemed to flash for reject shares or in between work.

Ok,I flashed the 824 firmware & ran a diag :



My room temp is 78 f.

That flash dropped the hashrate to 125. Now it doesen't flash at all Huh

EDIT: Duh...again........I didn't restart it Roll Eyes

Also, the test run shows Total Throttles = 1, this means the unit is throttling.
What is the In-Take temperature of the unit, not necessarily the room temperature?
These units are tested at 72F not 78F. Are these units placed close together? Is a GPU
exhausting hot air into the units Intake? Is the Unit in a closed space where it cannot
ventilate efficiently? Is something blocking either the sides or the top side of the unit?

Please let us know.



Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
136  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 19, 2012, 07:59:45 PM
Can you right click on the unit, and click on Device Information and let us know what it reads?


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
137  Other / Off-topic / Re: BFL "EasyMiner" Released. Reviews? on: May 19, 2012, 07:36:14 PM
Here is a semi blank batch file for cgminer 2.4.1. 
1)Copy the text to notepad and modify what you need then save it as cgminer.bat.
2)Put it in your cgminer folder and run it.

If you have gpus as well you just need to add the relevant commands found in the first post of the cgminer thread.

cgminer -o http://poolurl:port -u user -p pass -S COM3 --failover-only

Thanks !!!!!!! That did it  Grin

I was sooo tired after doing a landscape job yesterday,I must not have been thinking right Cheesy

I made about 10 .bat files & none of them worked,I was mislabeling them,duh Roll Eyes

My hashrate is half though any thoughts??



Maybe I flashed the wrong firmware version,I DL'ed the 832 version & flashed it instead of a higher one just in case of throttling like I had read about.

Is the temp correct in CGminer??

Is there any chance you can test 824 and see what happens? Also, does the front LED occasionally blink
for around 15 seconds while you're hashing?


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 19, 2012, 03:39:43 PM
It seems one of your units is throttling. There are two ways to know whats happening

1) Verify the Heatsink is firmly attached.
2) Try a lower bitstream like 800 or 768, etc. If the hash-rate increased, it means the unit was throttling.

It is odd that the unit throttles if your room temperature is 22C up to 25C and the units are not taking
exhaust air from another hot component
(PC or PSU, etc). They are specifically tested for this situation
prior to shipping.

You can also verify the Silicon Paste under the heatsinks (if you have the utility to do so).

Please let us know how it goes. You can post or send PM.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.

Room is temperature controlled and sits between 68-70F (20-22C).  There is nothing exhausting hot air and the singles sit about 8 inches apart and should be well vemtilated.  I have tried power supply, usb cables, host ports from working units and no change in operation.

I had a box of 3 and a box of 2, just wondering if both units I have issues with were from the box of two.  At least from appearance, no damage to either packaging.

I have tried the 832 and 800 firmware, both exhibit the same behavior in cgminer (after a minute or so, stuck at 600 +- 100).  I did a Light Diagnostic in easyminer at 832, Throttled 22 time before reaching 100 in about 600 seconds.

All the square heatsinks appear firmly in place as well as the small heatsink/fan on the botton, I don't want to put any pressure to them.  The main heatpipe had both clips seated correctly and I can see white thermal paste along the edges of the chips.  It also appears flat and not out of place.  Verified the top and bottom fans are both operational.  Top fan seems to be pushing the same as the other units, tested by checking deflection of a piece of paper over top vent.  I tried putting a powered 80mm fan on the button pushing into the unit, still problematic.

I have the ability as well as the usual white thermal paste.  But I will save removing the heat pipe, cleaning and reapplying as a last resort.

edit 1)  I am now trying the 768 firmware to see what happens, figure 768 is better than 600 or below.

OK please let us know how it goes. Throttling a lot usually means heatsink detachment or FAN inactivity.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
139  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 19, 2012, 01:43:55 PM
At one point it did light up, although it was dimmer when compared to the others.  The only thing I did was move it to another computer.  I was trying to figure out why it was getting low performance.

After 8 hours of runtime



It seems one of your units is throttling. There are two ways to know whats happening

1) Verify the Heatsink is firmly attached.
2) Try a lower bitstream like 800 or 768, etc. If the hash-rate increased, it means the unit was throttling.

It is odd that the unit throttles if your room temperature is 22C up to 25C and the units are not taking
exhaust air from another hot component
(PC or PSU, etc). They are specifically tested for this situation
prior to shipping.

You can also verify the Silicon Paste under the heatsinks (if you have the utility to do so).

Please let us know how it goes. You can post or send PM.


Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
140  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs - Bitforce Single and Mini Rig Box on: May 19, 2012, 08:24:45 AM
and then there was 3.  So I noticed 1 of the 4 remaining singles was constantly running at 700mh/s with 45-46c temps.  I go to take a look to see if the front is blinking and the front led is no longer lit.  Great.  I go to move it to another pc too see what is going on and I hear a very slight tink, as I move it I see a very tiny led fall out.  So far went from happy to a little annoyed and now to kind of pissed.  I already had to pay to ship 1 single back, and I am guessing soon I will be paying for another.   Angry

That is very bad luck rkozola.

I've got a total of 14 Singles from BFL. Not one has had a problem. 4 of them arrived this week. Reading through the forums there is some talk of the heat sinks coming loose in shipping but problems like yours are far from the norm.

Being DOA or nearly DOA like yours were I'd at least ask Sonny if BFL can cover your shipping costs.

Out of curiosity, have you tried another power supply on the single with the light out? The power supplies have been a problem occasionally. One of my power supplies died and behaved like yours. Singles themselves have been solid though.

tried the unit on a power supply from one that is working well, started mining and after about a minute it just stay between 500-700mh/s with temps at 45-46c.  Ran the light diagnostic and after getting to 100 had 22 Throttles in about 600 seconds run time.  Hard to tell if it is throttling since the led fell out.

I was amazed that I got a calling so quickly on a Friday evening after the email about the first one.  So at least it looks like they are standing behind their product, just hope I end up satisfied with the issues relating to the first and now the second problem I have had.

I was wondering, how did the LED fall out? Was it hit by something? Before it fell, did it light-up and blink
when the unit was powered on?

Regards,
BF Labs Inc.
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