https://www.bitfinex.com/pages/fees isnt ist a bit confusing to state " for the traded pair" - you probably mean that for both of the trades of the pair the fee is 0,15%, but one could understand it as "fee is only due for a pair, not per trade"? 0 or more traded in the last 30 days (for the traded pair) 0.15%
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Good news keep pouring in on a daily basis, still the market is paralyzed in waiting for China mode. I feel strongly that we are at a plateau that will never again be revisited, and I have now put everything I am able to into Bitcoins. Does anyone else share this feeling of impending boom?
no! i think at the moment the whole market is in hodl-position and going to hibernate. just some more hodlers and we will get crazy market actions, because of very thin order books. first price will crash, then risk-oriented-hodlers will temporariliy get out of hibernation, which will leed to some peaks and bots will have big times but that will be just crazy action during hodl-hibernation. until the next rally it will stay like this. and i think the next rally is not very near, as we need many times more news than some months ago, because people were scared big time by the volatility in november/december. the new normal-folk-paradigma concerning bitcoin for now is: "but since china ban itīs dead, isnt it?" we already see the bid-ask spread in the actual m3 chart of stamp, very bad sign imho
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thx again, your tips are really helpful in principle i can do what i want now. i can subscribe to any channel listed on https://mtgox.com/api/2/stream/list_publicwith this: message={ "op":"mtgox.subscribe", "channel":"trade.lag" } ws.send(json.dumps(message))
or i can have a single channel opened by just modifying the uri and not doing any send: ws = websocket.WebSocketApp("wss://websocket.mtgox.com:443/?Channel=trade.BTC", on_message = on_message, on_error = on_error, on_close = on_close)
(btw that was in the comments of prof7bits goxapi.py, line 1137, https://github.com/prof7bit/goxtool/blob/master/goxapi.py) so, the ws: uri is important, if calling wss://websocket.mtgox.com:443/mtgox?Currency=USD" i can subscribe to additional channels and always get btc.depth and btc.trades but cant unsubscribe to btc.depth and btc.trades. if using wss://websocket.mtgox.com:443 i get "{\"message\":\"Now online (no channels)\",\"op\":\"remark\"}" and can subscribe to any channel. so i think unsubscribe may be only usable to unsubscribe channels one subscribed but not for avoiding messages like btc.trades that result from calling wss://websocket.mtgox.com:443/mtgox?Currency=USD"
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ok, here it is for all python-noobs as me - for starters: #!/usr/bin/python import websocket import thread import time
def on_message(ws, message): print 'ola, messages incoming'; print message; print 'endofmessagedude';
def on_error(ws, error): print 'ola, error incoming:'; print error;
def on_close(ws): print "### closed ###";
def fuckitin(ws): def run(*args): #for i in range(5): # time.sleep(1) # ws.send("1") #ws.send("Hello %d" % i) #time.sleep(1) #ws.send(''); ws.close() print "thread terminating..." thread.start_new_thread(run, ())
if __name__ == "__main__":
websocket.enableTrace(True) ws = websocket.WebSocketApp("wss://websocket.mtgox.com:443/mtgox?Currency=USD", on_message = on_message, on_error = on_error, on_close = on_close) #ws.on_open = fuckitin
ws.run_forever()
how do i tell him which channel i want?
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i think gox is so successful because the fees for low volume trades are so high, itīs all about trades with high volume ripping off low-volume traders.
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hy, with firefox right click to remove lines doesnt work for me, is there some special position to click at? thx!
The whole canvas could trigger the removing. Which browser you are using? firefox v26 i found out, its the "all in one gestures" that disables the function. if the add-on is disabled it works ( http://marc.boullet.pagesperso-orange.fr/ext/extensions-en.html). tx
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once=str(int(time.time()*1000000-1)) works like a charm next thing i need is the orderbook. all i found is /money/depth/fetch but i think i might run into ddos protection, cause what i want to do, is to closely watch the orderbook max 6 btc away from the last price, so i would have to update it at least after each new trade. websocket isnt for me.. do you have a tip for me? thx!
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hy, with firefox right click to remove lines doesnt work for me, is there some special position to click at? thx!
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hy! thx for your help, i will test that out with -1. i was comparing bitcoinwisdom with the output of my script and as my script only displayed the last tid, bitcoinwisdom showed some trades in between that. but with -1 i didnt yet experiment.
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hy nitrous!
what do you consider the best method to always get the last trade (every latest trade)?
i tried (python):
get the latest time
letztertid=str(int(time.time()*1000000));
fetch trades since that
x=req('BTCUSD/money/trades/fetch?since='+jetzt, {}, True)
take the latest trade from that result and repeat.
but its lagging 3-4 trades. if i try something like that
letztertid=str(int(time.time()*1000000-864000));
it shows one lates trade and then lags some trades and then shows another latest trade.
i also tried to start with time*1000000, take the tid of the latest trade and fetch all trades since that, but that doesnt return no data (i think on your website you describe this as beeing some kind of ddos protection).
what is the minimum x i can subtract from time? thx!
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Given points 1) and 2) I feel satisfied with the explanation. But ideally prepayment penalties would make sense as it would give incentives to lenders to offer longer term loans.
no, thats traditional-banking bullshit, we dont need no "penalties" and such stuff
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thanks a lot; itīs especially tricky as the api outputs 10 digits (date:..)..
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hy, i cant get this to work, whats wrong? (couldnt find anything on the forum or the net; i just want to get the most recent trades including tid) https://data.mtgox.com/api/2/BTCUSD/money/trades/fetch?since=1388679721{"result":"success","data":[]} i know that <218867 its the tid and after that it should be the unix timestamp with 10 digits, but for everything > 218867 it just returns nothing thx!
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is there a way to combine a limit order with a trailing stop? i.e. if the limit is reached, the trailing stop discards itself.
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Because it still looks like it wasn't clear.
I was the one who falsely claimed that 2000 LTC were taken from me. But that did in fact not happen, there was just a glitch and I was not clever enough to get that.
I am sorry that my accusations still have a negative effect on this site, i will immediately remove the original post.
Happy holidays everyone!
OK! now i got it too
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I don't get it...
There are people who's stops went off or got liquidated and it sold at ridiculous price. And there is someone who bought at that price. But both did not get anything ?
Where are the coins/money ?!
I hope this will be the last time I have to repeat what happened. Event 1) There was a crash on the LTC price due to a forced liquidation and A LOT of people got their bids order filled at ridiculously low prices. Those orders were not cancelled. It's the nature of trading, somebody's loss is somebody else's gain. There is not much we can do about it and it would be unfair to take action in this case. Event 2) As this crash occurred whilst we were moving our servers (how lucky! ) some of the pending orders to close the forced liquidation were actually executed twice and those (only those) were the orders that were reversed, as they didn't have a counterpart effectively selling LTC. All the traders effected by event 2 understood the situation and agreed with what we did. The same thing would have happened on the Nyse or Nasdaq, trading platforms have the right to reverse trades originated by a glitch and not having an effective counterpart. Bitfinex is not for beginners, it's a professional trading platform that offers unique functionalities, its customers have to be professional in their behavior and despite that we are endlessly thinking about ways to protect our customers against themselves. Driving a Ferrari can be fun, but also deadly if you don't know how to do it. We recently removed 4:1 leverage and we are thinking about other ways to prevent greediness from blinding people. But it's not an easy task, believe me. In the next weeks we will come out with new functionalities that will make the Bitfinex trading experience even better and we believe even safer than what it currently is. Though I believe we will never be able to guarantee our customers an outstanding return with zero risks. We are not Santa Klaus and by the way Santa Klaus doesn't exist. We are close to being him, but not 100%. At least not yet. Have a good day Giancarlo Bitfinex Team hy Giancarlo, thx for the clarification, great to hear, that bfx does not interfere with the market . one point i would like to know is, what about that 2000 LTC lost post - is it true 2000 vanished or what did happen? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg4040300#msg4040300thx **** EDIT: no more question here, see the post below!
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what i understood one wants to be refunded because his position was closed because of a margin call and as his position was so bid, the price it was liquidated was < 1 USD. he wants some money back and that was refused (what i think is 100% ok).
then there is another person who bought a lot of ltc at <1 USD and who claims that 2000 LTC that he bought were taken away by bfx.
so if that is true one wonders where those 2000 LTC went to, if not to person 1.
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On, Wednesday morning i lost 79852 litecoin + 156 bitcoins + 94500 dollars , all I had in my account at the time of increased volatility after the very fast progress of the crash left me unable to react Since he is asking for donations / coins from those lucky enough to buy LTC at sub $1 prices... Any proof this is in fact the unlucky person? Could anyone from BFX confirm this? Or perhaps liteguy has a screenshot of the history page at BFX or something else which would indicate that he is in fact the one who did this? Also.. sorry for the person's loss, that's a whole lot of money lost.. :-/ sad to think about. It is actually him. I'm sorry about his loss, but there is not much we can do about it, as his loss was somebody else's gain. I do appreciate his try though, it's Christmas and some of those people might actually be touched by his words. Might this Christmas bring some rest to all of us. We all need it (it has been a hell of a period in the last weeks with all this volatility and stuff), sometimes I wish BTC would be a little less volatile, but I guess it's too early to wish for this. Thank you to all our customers for everything, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you. Merry Christmas Giancarlo Bitfinex Team hy giancarlo, so the policy of bitfinex is that such orders are executed and thats it. one looses, others win. i am fine with that. but it doesnt quite fit with this post, where the buyer of cheap litecoins states that LTC 2000 was taken away from his account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg4040300#msg4040300how does this match? thx https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=229438.msg4040300#msg4040300
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