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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH or NEO in 5 years on: September 15, 2018, 10:23:10 AM
NEO formerly known as Antshares, Antshares's the first open-source blockchain project from China. The Neo Coin created in 2014 aims to transform the buying and selling system towards a system they call as a smart-economy that includes three pillars, including digital assets, digital identity and smart contracts. In the fourth quarter of 2017 until the first quarter of 2018, the Neo coin had become the best coin in China because at that time only Neo coins were fully supported by their government. But now the growth of Neo cannot be expected as it once was because its master (the Chinese government), has now reopened the trade portal which had previously been closed. I think, what the Chinese government's doing is wise.
122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I am most worried now on: September 15, 2018, 04:03:49 AM
That was the collapse of ETH, because most of the airdrop and bounty programs were through the ERC-20 platform. Do you think the same thing happened?

A few days earlier the ETH value had fallen to a depth of $ 176, but since yesterday its value has returned to as high as $ 212. Are you not sure with the greatness of the ETH?
I think you will not experience a loss because your time that has been wasted will be paid in full by profit which you will get from ETH in the future.
123  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Day trade? on: September 14, 2018, 11:59:08 PM
Today, the value of bitcoin is trying to rise even though it is only 0.13% rate of increase. For anyone who is interested in small profits, I think trading day is not wrong and certainly very worth doing.
124  Economy / Speculation / Re: When Will the Bear Market End? on: September 14, 2018, 10:30:46 PM
I am a Hodler, I have waited for straight 8 difficult months to see the bulls return, we were having some semblance to a boom in the last 2 weeks, now market cap is struggling with 250 Billion $. How long are we going to wait?

Asking questions and just waiting will never produce answers or solutions needed for the growth of the value of bitcoin. Because, the growth of the value of bitcoin's not based on thousands or millions of hopes, but by the existence of buying activities. Continue your HODL, but if you still have money you should also make a repurchase, you have to believe the value of bitcoin will surely grow.
125  Economy / Economics / Re: Why do you think the market is down right now? on: September 14, 2018, 09:05:03 PM
Throughout 2018, there was a lot of trouble, which blocked the journey of bitcoin. From the increasingly tight crypto regulation in Korea, the ban on advertising by Google and Facebook, and the last's the refusal of a number of bitcoin ETFs by the SEC. I think this is the main factor that has caused a decline in crypto currencies.
126  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin in going down, is it bad...? on: September 14, 2018, 10:01:19 AM
Bitcoin is now at about 6k$...

I bought tons of bitcoin when the price was at 3k$ and then sold at about 17k$, I made profits then, but now I don't think that the price can go up again...
Will it?

Of course not, precisely at that low price can trigger the growth of new users from various circles of society, especially the lower middle class.

How can someone who has experience think in such a way. This thing's very contrary to what I think. I'm very sure the price of bitcoin will recover in a way that cannot be predicted by anyone.
127  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: LIKE IT OR NOT, BITCOIN IS AN INVESTMENT on: September 14, 2018, 03:51:17 AM
                              In an economic sense,
 An INVESTMENT is the purchase of goods that are not consumed today but are used in the future to create wealth.
                                        In finance
An INVESTMENT is a monetary asset purchased with the idea that the asset will provide income in the future or will later be sold at a higher price for a profit.

I really don't want to turn these into an economics class but the both definition of what investments are clearly should settle the argument of whether BTC is truly an investment or not.


For those not long ago being in the world of investment both locally and internationally, the term investing might be something foreign. But in general the definition of investment's the investment of assets or funds which are carried out by a company or individual for a certain period of time especially for the future. There are many things involved in this activity, and some are optimized for the number of funds, depending on the purpose of the investment itself. The circulation of bitcoin's very limited. For now, there are only around 21 million worldwide. With such restrictions, bitcoin prices will tend to continue to rise. Therefore it's not surprising that many people who use bitcoin to invest are like investing in gold.
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Bitcoin and eth big scam on: September 13, 2018, 11:59:17 PM
I buy bitcoin at14000 and eth at 1200 and they only fall in price. Cryptic are scams wish I never invested. I should of listen to Warren buffet

What you say is very chaotic and full of emotion, it looks like you are one of those people who do not understand how crypto currencies work, so when you buy you don't think about them carefully. It should be that's when you ask, not now. Because, the current condition is very different, not the same as last year. But because you already bought it so you should hold it. You must believe that Bitcoin and ETH prices will improve again. I need to remind you Bitcoin and ETH aren't SCAM.
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Very soon we will see a new wave of market growth!!! on: September 13, 2018, 10:47:44 PM
I believe in the cryptocurrency market and believe in its huge potential. Though now and not the best times in the market. But experienced investors understand that this is only a correction of the market, which is a consequence of the significant growth of the market before!  But I think that many newcomers now need support. I wish us all patience! Soon we will see a new wave of growth, there is very little!!! For those who are quite sad reminded that " those who in 2013 and 2014 believed in the basic cryptocurrency ideas and invested very little in crypto-coins, then, a few years later, became super-rich»

Although we don't know for certain, exactly when this thing will happen, this phenomenon already will definitely happen again. We don't have to rush to appreciate what happened, both when the market's stagnant, down and up. Because the facts often prove, that cryptocurrency often returns to a better form than before both in price and reputation.
130  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Crypto world vs Fulltime job? to establish better life. on: September 13, 2018, 09:41:11 PM
Do think that trading and investing with cryptocurrency are much better to my upcoming fulltime job? Because at this time I'm just waiting for the call of my fulltime job. What are the best advice that you may give to me. should I reject the fulltime job that I've been waiting for or to go enter the world of investing and trading?

Fulltime work is a real job you should not miss the opportunity that you are waiting for, let full-time work be the experience for your future. Besides you work, you can also learn how to work and make money from cryptocurrency. After you understand the 'basic work' of cryptocurrency, you can try it by buying and investing from your salary.
131  Economy / Speculation / Re: Are you one of those who think that BITCOIN will not rise this year? on: September 13, 2018, 10:43:53 AM
This bitcoin currency is not affected by politics or government in some countries. So it can be said that bitcoin is not affected by anything. Another advantage of this currency's that it's able to protect against inflation. Inflation's a continuous process of price increases.

I always think positively about bitcoin because then I will always have hope to be able to get profit, bitcoin has a fluctuating price and will definitely rise again even a little, but bitcoin will definitely continue to grow

Bitcoin price predictions at this time, give a stronger positive signal that in the future bitcoin will dominate any currency value. Even dollars might scream especially other currencies. Investment in bitcoin is very prestigious in the years ahead. But no matter how the bitcoin price phenomenon occurs, you still have to be vigilant. Because of the higher the popularity the more people try to manipulate it.
132  Economy / Economics / Re: LIFE GOES ON. on: September 13, 2018, 05:41:19 AM
The current cryptocurrency journey's like a snail it will continue to move slowly forward and continue to pass. No matter how heavy the problem's cryptocurrency must face but life will continue to pass with nor without cryptocurrency.  We cannot go back to the past, but what we can do now is turn and remember the past. But, will you continue to turn around, of course you don't?, Because we have to look forward and keep moving. Take advantage of cryptocurrency as long as he can still provide decent benefits.
133  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Bitcoin safer than banking? on: September 12, 2018, 11:46:19 PM
Reports have it that bank frauds still continue to happen despite of strict security measures being taken by the banks. Just between January to July 2018, just timeshare fraud alone had 1.155 reported cases. It's when you’re told you can go on a free holiday or get rich by joining an exclusive holiday club or timeshare programme, but you’re eventually forced to pay for it through small print in the contact. That is not to mention other types of fraud like identity theft etc.

This gets me thinking, is it safer to just have bitcoins, or cryptocurrencies for that matter since it's not regulated by banks? What do you think?

Well, i think the example you give isn't a really good one... Human stupidity is human stupidity wether you're using the traditional banking system or bitcoin.
If you're stupid enough to sign a legally binding timeshare contract, it doesn't matter if you have all your funds in a traditional FIAT bank account or HODL'ing BTC, you'll still be forced to pay up each and every month.

That being said: bitcoin is decentral, there is no central authority, and it's based upon time-tested cryptographic techniques. This means that, if you hold a traditional bank account, a judge can just sign a piece of paper with which the timeshare company can go to your bank and force them to wire your money to their account. In a BTC world, no piece of paper could ever take your BTC behind your back, you'd always have to make a transaction yourself OR you'd have to fork over your private key/seed phrase/HW wallet pin code. That being said: a judge will always have ways to force you to pay your debts... I'd rather pay a timeshare company their dues instead of going to prison.

The big difference lays in de decentralised part: if you use traditional banks, your account details are just a row in a centralised relational database managed by the banking industry. If they get a piece of paper signed by a judge, they can just edit, update or delete your record in their database (with our without your knowledge/aproval).

In the bitcoin world, nobody but you can spend your unspent outputs (unless they have your private keys).

I think what the OP asked has answered by mocacinno correctly because this is a fact. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies pure without being regulated by a third party or the authority that interferes. In its use, we don't need to worry because bitcoin's very safe compared to fiat.

When it comes to the safety, both hve risk.

Whatever action we do, basically there's a risk of each, and we cannot avoid it just like that.

There are points that it is safer when our money is in bank because bank is allowed all over the world while bitcoin is just starting to be legalized worldwide.

Of course throughout the world, because banks are always supervised by authorities, which can also function as financial relations between countries. But make no mistake, bitcoin's also the same it can be accepted by users all over the world in peer to peer.
134  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Even the Politicians have secret investment in Bitcoin on: September 12, 2018, 10:29:51 PM
Guessing someone's character isn't different from predicting the price of bitcoin, everything can so it's impossible, but it can also be very possible. Humans tend to have a double attitude, especially a greedy official / politician. In general they reject bitcoin hard (because afraid of their superiors), but who knows behind that they play as big investors.
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Predictions 2018/2019 on: September 12, 2018, 09:24:48 AM
The market went into a deep correction. Maybe it's for a long time. But that you understand, there are both growth cycles and fall cycles on the market. Therefore, it's okay, the recession will go up. It is necessary to be able to wait. Probably, the market will be in an incomprehensible and suspicious state. hope for the best.
As the market develops, the growth and fall cycles will start and end faster, so I think that the next growth cycle will happen sooner than everyone expects.
mid 2018 is indeed very bad for crypto currencies,
but I am sure the end of the year and the beginning of 2019 will certainly be bitcoin and altcoin going to the top

I don't think in the slightest that we have seen something bad on the value of bitcoin because bitcoin's still traded with values above $ 6.000 I think it's still fine. Bitcoin price predictions 2018-2019, both according to experts and from us will certainly give birth to different opinions, but in essence most users still feel confident that the price of bitcoin will continue to rise.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Many ALT hodlers are selling and leaving this market: They are Fools! on: September 12, 2018, 03:57:06 AM
Even though ETH drop to 100$ i am patient and will hold , there is no way i am gonna sell with such loss now Smiley
It will surely pump up if not in a month or 2 but within a year for sure , so don't mind to wait for it Smiley

I am happy to this day there are still people who remain optimistic about their stand, to continue to hold, either ETH or other crypto coins. No doubt someday the pump will come maybe in a way that nobody can predict. Waiting and hold is the most effective weapon to achieve success while buying's the most powerful weapon to increase its price.
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Invest in ICO this time, yes or no? on: September 11, 2018, 10:57:59 PM
      Since the development of MLM, Lending and the second half of last year, causing the price of Eth to rise and then leave a huge impact, Eth is drastically reduced. Not only that, the market Crytopia increasingly gloomy on no sign uptrend back. Some good  ICOs project is hard to keep the price after opening exchange in the market, even there are countless  ICO projects Scam, team DEV is not actively developing after the listing on the market. If still road live for ICO or not?


After the incident, it looks like the crypto market has experienced endless fatigue. In addition, the issue of FUD continues to overshadow crypto travel both from the government and sponsors, legal regulations which have been inconsistent have played a role in the existence of cryptocurrency, the ban on google hanging (January-June 2018), the removal of coins by Trustee and even those conditions compounded by the bad behavior of a large number of ICOs that turned into SCAM.

Searching for information from trusted sources maybe it's a good way to find out about good / honest ICOs. Understanding all technical aspects's an added value, and it's absolute even though that's not always enough. However it's important to review the idea of the developer about the technical performance of their project before investing in it.
138  Economy / Speculation / Re: situation about the condition of bitcoin ! on: September 11, 2018, 08:57:32 PM
when we see the situation of bitcoin prices that are constantly falling, what can you do? is it only enough to read articles about information only. ask for instructions and suggestions. Thank you for the time.

regards

indoagung

Reading articles, instructions and suggestions from friends nor experts will be something which is good if we can simulate it correctly and then take action from the results of the simulation. We must be sure, the value of bitcoin will continue to grow to a more significant level.
139  Economy / Economics / Re: Which country will be the first to legalize Bitcoin? on: September 11, 2018, 09:42:25 AM
Or others Criptocurrencies I mean..

I'm looking forward to read and hear this news that will happen soon then what we are thinking..and it will change the way of action in economic world by who already are against BTC and stuff.
It has to happen ( even if I don't know how )

I bet in China  Wink

Apparently what you predict's wrong. Precisely what China does is the opposite, they have made crypto regulations into a regulation that is no longer conspicuous. As it turns out, Japan has already gone first which legalizes bitcoin. OK OP it's okay what matters, what you've hoped for has been replaced well.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Will Ethreum bounce back ? on: September 11, 2018, 06:15:08 AM
Will Ethreum voice back like it did last year or else we are having false expectations about recovery of ethreum when we know the fact that crypto currency has become so unpredictable nowadays ? Kindly share your responses as downfall of ETH has become talk of the town.

Ethereum has been able to last a long time, as one of the popular digital currencies after bitcoin, it's natural that he has always been in the spotlight in the media and forums. Various voices were incessantly predicting. Not only predictions of the Ethereum price of September 2018, but also for years to come. Regarding the prediction right or not, only time knows.

My advice for those of you who want to invest in Ethereum coins. Check as often as possible, various developments and decreases in ETH coins for one week before. Then simulate various prediction models that you know as often as possible more or less for a year.
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