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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 23, 2020, 12:40:27 AM
One moment, one moment, please ... first this Oscar-worthy troll carnival and then move on to the "human" debate...


... has been proven that moving rewards to the masternodes increases the value of the coin and the reverse decreases it.  This was made clear in Ryan's talk ...



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122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 22, 2020, 02:48:07 PM


Is it futile to talk with people which only goal is to defend present situation at any cost.Any meaningful discussion with them is impossible.Everything you said is assumption,everything they said is a truth by default.People which are trolling all the time, shamelessly accusing you that you are troll,not them.

So,it is obvious that present situation is not some mistake made by DASH team,but carefully constructed situation with longterm goals in the favour of one very small circle.All changes were made to support maximum wealth centralization.And it is going further in the same direction to the final big bang.


Bring someone who knows how to fork and we will fuck these scammers in 3 seconds, whether they like it or not. ... also benefiting the authentic cheated community and intensely optimizing one of the biggest gems on the market to the point of making one of the best projects, if not the best.

For me, even worse than the economic heist of these immoral parasites is the inability for the passionate DASH community to express themselves through the project that seduced them.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 22, 2020, 11:00:02 AM
It seems Dash is down to about 4854 masternodes now... all at the same time the price has gone up over 20% in the last week... perhaps the bottom vs BTC is in?

Are old masternodes being banned yet or are disgruntled masternode owners finally selling?

No. Just parasites that have changed the rules mid-game by buying and dumping. Ask in DashTROOLKdiscord to xkcd and the Pig of Canada ... they explain how to squeeze DASH and turn it into an inflatable doll for Trading at the expense of the money of the fools who are tricked into entering this "paradise of freedom where you are your own bank".( coincidentally, here they are all "altruistic decentralizers loyal to the libertarian collective project" ... and "nobody sells"  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy )




I bought... Remember ? Bought half a masternode @62 Euro Dash price a few months back.
Dash price currently 77 Euro. Buying can be very profitable if you have the patience.

And i have no intention to sell either.


"Active community", scammer?

Less than a thousand votes on average ( and really only a few hundred Mnode owners )  in each vote to decide the "presumably common" Treasury funds in a coin of 1,323,126 addresses?
Is that your "active community"?
Or rather the few hundred owners of ALL the Mnodes who share the monetary issues ... while preventing the Shared Mnodes that DO open DASH to a broad, decentralized and active community, as proposed by Duffield?



Take that photo with the feet crossed in a hammock thanked by the "spontaneous support" of multinicks created to prolong your scam.... and go to a poor neighborhood in Colombia or Venezuela to show it to people who have trusted the advertising created by your parasites and paid for by your DAO of "Accounts with return" (Shared Mnodes) to collect 4 coins with real sacrifice when DASH was $ 1600 ... you'll see the "peace" they give you back, you fucking thief. Go there and remind them how wonderful DASH is going up $ 15, go ...  Wink

Well ... for now, with exposing your scam so you don't screw more people, enough ...

And Ah! ... and of course, we believe you that you do not want to sell ... and that you are not one of those who are going to dump tokens generously as soon as a juicy percentage rises. And that you eat breakfast on Saturn every morning, we believe you too. The bad thing is that xkcd and the pig of Canada, two "idealists" of decentralization and the "community" like you who come here to clean your ass and intoxicate when that "community" you adore turns against you and clearly exposes your scam to new ones who come to read and learn, ...vut "casually" they have been in discord for months claiming that DASH drops to $ 10 ... to load and dump at these prices.

Although surely not ... that now those do not overturn either ... DASH overturns are produced by "the wind" or "climate change".  



By the way ... we are still waiting for your arrogant tone  again  disavowing and slandering "comunity members" ... have you forgotten since I painted that scammer's face in colors? ... or did the cat eat your tongue?  Wink Grin
124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 22, 2020, 12:07:53 AM
I just stop by, to say hello to the holders and @quizzie, a guy who never rests and always brings out the positive side of Dash.

The $ 100 looks very close, who knows if this time it will be the good one again?

Greetings and health to all.

Giving shortened and / or biased information to keep scamming clueless newbies?

Or belittling the other opinion-makers and trying to inhibit free expression? Because that's what he did until 4 days ago, when his troll ass began to be spanked ... as a good representative of this corrupt mafia that kidnaps the DAO.

Those values ​​are what have made DASH a totally centralized shit project and no improvement solution in that regard, since modest Mnodes have no ability to change the rules. As long as their greed leads them to work for the "silent" whales (some show their paw in some vote, and decide three figures of votes in a single click, as happened last month to DASH Next), well they will continue like this, quiet. As long as everything unfolds in your interest, perfect ... why put yourself out there?

Let's not forget that Mnodes are not only the main diversion of system resources, but, much more important, they decide anything in DASH . I repeat: ANYTHING ... they can put anything to vote. As defund long-standing workgroups without even giving an opinion on why they are working ... or what they might be doing wrong (DASH Nexus, when its previous proposal was threatened with underfunding, was not complaining about it ... but about not be given the slightest feedback on a possible erroneous activity and thus be able to redirect it)

So sidelining entire groups in one fell swoop without the slightest blush is the "New Normal" in DASH. The miners have been the last ... before, any holder with less than 1000 DASH who expected Duffield's Shared Mnodes, possibly at very high prices ... for the particular benefit of these thieves. Nobody remembers Ryan Taylor a couple of years ago saying that "it was not the right time" to implement Shared Mnodes because he did not see "a receptive environment in the Mnodes community." "Well ... this start of the year, they got stand the table in the quarterly call of January ... to be buried among the rest of the conditions of the "Great Pact 2020".

Nobody remembers the corrupt intoxicant Valenzuela changing his historic "HODL" speech (he came to accompany some of his infumable nursery school articles with a libertarian fist aloft and other demagogic clownings) ... for messages that those DASH had to be spent...because "DASH is a chain of payments" ? The strategic and communication turn was resounding and evident around a year and half ago in the happily buried today informational trash can DASH NEWS. Well ... that certainty directly deprived the tokens of the holders without Mnode of value, surely the most humble part of the - old - real DASH community...... a trap worthy of true pride, yes sir. Many would probably think: "These coins bought at 4 figures for an annual return in the famous" DASH Accounts "of years ago ... now they are worth 90% less ... AND I HAVE TO SPEND THEM on any nonsense ... to that those who veto the right that they offered me and marginalize me at one stroke from the DASH structure (and with a profusion of media, videos, interviews, articles ... driven and funded by the DAO) continue to take their share of the cake. "

Now the profile of "investor" is high-flying...the sky is the limit ! They want new Mnodes that bring in fresh little money. Someone thinks that they are going to explain to those potential 6-figure investors ... that the Network of Mnodes, which is not even decentralized in dreams in 5000 points, can marginalize their community member profile ... as it has already done with several ? Who in DASH is going to guarantee these new Mnodes that He won't be the new outcast profile on the cake... the new guest to shove his super-treasure of tokens up his ass? those 4000 Mnodes who do not vote ... do not appear to deny him and the rest of Mnodes with one or two devices, in 3 clicks, their right to rewards or vote, for example. ..inviting him "to spend his tokens" like dirty Valenzuela did to the most humble DASH holders before?. Finantial Freedom and long-term investment "DASH Style" , in all its glory ... Mamma mia !!!...  Roll Eyes

The same pigs that they celebrate happily on Discord channels because DASH drops to $ 5 for the benefit of their shenanigans, who laugh on those same channels when DAO-paid trolls marginalize logically outraged members of the "real community" - and that's when do not directly add to the vibe of insults and trolling, like the Canadian pig or xkcd - or that fill the internet with colorful rockets and bullish graphics every time DASH raises a measly dollar (when told about the 1600 drop it takes ... there already, they fill it all with drops of other currencies - many of them, pure shitty shitcoins, that not even with that fallacious resource match the word of DASH ... for which, in addition, and on top of the shamelessness and scam, they invite you to buy a THOUSAND !!! - or you will not be a "community", which is the point of enrichment in a DASH with a price and an S2F that are scary -) ... they are the ones that appear here with that friendly, positive and pro-DASHer mood that invites new infeli Cease to enter her thieving joke.

And look, let's be positive: In this endless environment of uncertainty, we already have a price discovery mechanism impartial and objective in DASH...at least, for a standard investment:
1000 tokens = 1 JOKE. ( although perhaps some investor - or some Mnodes of one or two devices - does not find it too funny ... well, there are very strange people. )
Really cheap for riding the new crypto "decentralized" revolution ... and such.

And all this dead end  ... the ideal of financial freedom, decentralization , transparency and collective synergy of which some are proud - it is supposed -. Really vomiting.
125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 21, 2020, 12:47:50 PM
With regards to toknormal being a masternode owner and yet being negative about the way the reward allocation is split. This is not twisted at all. It is a natural reaction to the economics it all. As he has explained many times in many different ways.

There was some comparison with litecoin in a previous post. So I'm going to go ahead and compare.

Does litecoin have instantsend transactions? No
Does litecoin have private mixing builtin? No
Does litecoin have protection of chainlocks against 51% mining attack? No
Does litecoin have a treasury to fund development work and marketing and give grants to 3rd parties who may benefit its network? No
Does litecoin have much in the way of active development? No (as far as I know)
Does litecoin have a platform for dapps? No
Does litecoin have an investment foundation so that the network can actually own gold and other assets? No
Is litecoin an innovator in the crypto space? No

Dash has all this. Dash should be killing it. But wait theres a little bit more.
Are both coins proof of work? Is Dash?

Does litecoin split rewards so miners get less than half the supply of new coins and more than that is airdropped to set of wealthy owners?

There lies the difference. As far as my judgement goes dash overpays its service layer. The service layer is great. But just not worth almost 50% of the entire supply to pay for it. Most masternode owners are in utter denial of this. At this time Dash is leading the way in showing that masternode coins are not a winner. As far as I know there isnt yet a masternode coin which restrains the masternode reward. All succumb to the temptation of rewarding too much free coins to the masternodes.

Toknormal is bullish dash, despite his belief that the direction is wrong with regards to rewarding the miners, he is staying with it, still invested. This is someone who likes dash and still believes in it. But wishes to influence the thinking behind the reward split. What would his vote have achieved if he had voted anyway? Perhaps influencing the community carries more weight than that vote would have done.

All those first points that Dash has in its favour they are great. Dash could be great.




We disagree in the verb times. DASH WAS great already. It is internal governance itself that prevents this jewel of decentralization from showing its full potential. DASH is the private project of a few hundred people ... but that already exists in classic production structures without need any - cosmetic - crypto adventure (and no one thinks of putting Apple or Coca-Cola as an example of decentralization for that).The crypto industry's widespread contempt for DASH's ideological corruption and falsehood is no accident. That millions of disinterested crypto watchers are wrong and a few dozen corrupt trolls invested up to their ears are right ... ignores to the most elementary logic.

It is the spiral of progressive centralization that limits the project and the powerful and spontaneous expression of Duffield's splendid design ... and it is deliberate and from within. And in addition, an in crescendo centralization, tending to an increasing concentration. Some naive Mnodes believe that the red line is the 1000 Tokens ... but it is not so: Also that range will be attacked, unauthorized and marginalized ... and that inertia will not stop, because in a flawed structure it always benefits the strongest. The whales of DASH will not convert to Buddhism tomorrow nor will they go out in their underwear and sandals to the street to distribute candy to the poor children. The modest Mnodes in their greed believe they are solidifying their share of the pie ... but they are only digging their own grave.

Once the governance framework in the Mnodes network was defined (blocking Shared Mnodes, which could dilute power in favor of the general interest of the project with a QUALITY voting niche - they could never decide in their particular interest, but they could make it impossible / difficult , to categorical partial abuses (and at that juncture, other modest Mnodes would ally themselves) - the whales will continue to accumulate Mnodes. That they continue to set aside beneficiaries of the pie is pure inertia. The custom rules allow it and they will -.

The modest Mnodes believe that decentralization is a limitation to their ends ... when it is precisely the guarantee of their survival.

If the Titanic continue to sink - and even if it doesn't, for simple convenience, because immorality to the eyes of public opinion is a cost that the DASH DAO hijackers they assumed long ago - ... fewer and fewer lifeboats will remain... because there is not for everyone. Guess who will guarantee theirs.  Cheesy
126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 20, 2020, 12:06:05 PM

which makes his crusade against masternodes the narrative and its owners all the more weird to observe

Defending masternodes against the destruction of their capital.

Understood your pro-mining stance, ok.
However :
Are miners TECHNICALLY avoidable with ChainLocks? With the necessary security?

An answer as close as possible to a YES or a NO, please, is appreciated.

A greeting.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 20, 2020, 10:55:40 AM
LTC has already become more expensive.

What's the point of comparing prices per coin, Einstein?

The proportional cap that it generates, Einstein. Or do you think that the 30th place came from a lottery?

Although you may think that the institutional money that reaches crypto - and that DASH needs more than anyone else - chooses to put its capital after the 500th place in the ranking, of course ...
128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 19, 2020, 03:31:36 AM
...and that transfer that precariousness abroad like an open book, canceling the expansion of DASH to new interested people , with what, in addition to having tied the past and present potential of the project ... you also condition its future growth capacity: Well, even for the proven limitation of the active / executive mass of DASH ... absolutely ROUND, GREAT ! ).



Well , sorry for the pedantic autoquote... but i think it is going to lengthen a bit and I need to expose another point for a more complete overview of the problem that I exposed in this last post. And it is the precariousness of DASH as a social trigger, as a magnetic point to live a "crypto revolution" that is already seducing worldwide by the brilliance of BTC.

Is the indifference / contempt of DASH towards those who are not part of its reduced hierarchy bonded a good strategy of reception, integration and exploitation of masses potentially interested in crypto? (and attention, not only because of the USE of crypto as money ... although the DASH brilliant thinking heads organize and assign their cascade of roles of everybody ... people are very free, sorry,  to interpret a sector based on their own interest ... whichever they want , either as users or as "investors" - and on how productive certain collective synergies can be in crypto, we have little to clarify here - ).

I wrote a fairly empathetic post on Reddit about my surprise when, after an absence from the day-to-day running of DASH from Spring 2017 to mid-2018, I resumed my interest and involvement in "the community" of DASH.

I found a project where the particular expectations of integration, the projection of that potential for synergy and "popular" contribution that was transmitted in 2016 and early 17 had not only disappeared, but a surprising tone circulated in the forum or in discord of "appropriation arrogant " of that collective trigger that was SO attractive one day.

You were trying to contribute, analyze points of obvious mistake/limitation/improvement of the situation at that time (the biggest surprise was, obviously, that Evolution was still "in the laboratory" after the asynchronies that arose from the global projection meeting in London ... just as it is still two years later) and the most common response line was: "Do you want to participate in DASH? ... Buy five Mnodes!"

That project, that open meeting point of 2016/17 had simply disappeared. The "particular" integration had been reduced to a massive looting of resources, authorized by the decision-making body of Mnodes, financing an endless and millionaire succession of "occurrences", each one more absurd, in favor of any newcomer, many without any linking to the project, who came to DASH specifically to "put the pot" (ask for "their share").

The point is that that situation after the ATH and Evo's fall prevented any practical integration of the real community, the popular one, the "on foot" community. - in fact, and imo, it was the end of the "Real Community" of DASH ... or, at least, so I perceived it with absolute clarity. You walked into Dash TROLLK DIscord, an absolutely disgusting cave of arbitrary censorship, and you were trying to promote reorientations (in favor of the collective interest of the project, not ridiculous "Keynesian" mass deliveries or anything like that) and group attacks, insults and slights included, by the shameful collective that frequents the aforementioned discord, they left your eyes wide. Beyond the logical disagreements that any particular position can generate - of course, with all legitimacy -, integral idiots, mods included, insulting and disqualifying in a group with total impunity ... other retardeds proudly boasting of the right to marginalize (ideas, not personal participation) that their status as Mnodes conferred on them ... bans without the slightest rigor and out of sheer whim by pathetic and conceited mods (to the surprising applause and collective laughter of other members - let's not even talk about expecting the least collective empathy before an avoidable censure on another participant - ... many of them, perfectly authorized to harass and insult) ... open acknowledgments of receiving incentives from the DAO - through payments of initiatives financed with the common treasure - to harass and marginalize "alleged "trolls (of course, qualified as such by those same censors) ... absolutely shameful and unconscionable insults and harassment in tweeter towards executives of relevant partners of DASH, as in the embarrassing case of the CEO of Bitrefill, responded with the most absolute silence of the censor ghetto "comrades" and not the slightest recrimination of this type of indefensible acts (my first ban it was in Discord for reproaching that mindless attitude, without the least personal respect OR COMMERCIAL CONVENIENCE to his still proud cause, who identified his participation in the incident with that of a true champion, a warrior in defense of a DASH "trolled by the human species "- delirium close to persecution mania - that did not allow the manager of a DASH partner to be a conceptual supporter of Bitcoin. Absolutely hallucinogenic).

Well ... I think that the context, obviously from my point of view, is perfectly defined. But beyond subjective expositions that could cloud the view, it is advisable to try to anticipate the "conceptual"  consequences that a status quo of this kind could carry DASH as a crypto currency project :

THE first obvious consequence is:

- Beyond the executive hierarchy, with greater or lesser range of decision and participation ... IS THERE REALLY a simple community, at street level ... in this project?

- If so ... what is its role in the organization chart? (Even more so in an organization that shows less and less intentions to finance proposals, which are the last small crack of active participation that someone without a Mnode or a salary at DCG had left to join a project of supposed collective collaboration?

- If not ... or its role is merely decorative at the level of integration beyond simple consumption ... what does this resignation of "massive activism" mean for DASH? - imo, a luxury that only a stupid can afford, sorry -

- When we still see how a characteristic collective synergy in crypto is capable of driving projects to the top and their capitalization to very important levels (which in DASH would be an added bonus thanks to its feedback system on project financing) ...

... is it smart to assign the lowest expression in the project hierarchy the role of simple "clients"?
... It will be its satisfaction as users enough - attention! : in a system based on ridiculous service charges - to sustain the necessary enrichment in the upper layers of the project? ... We need a legion of satisfied customers , or a tsunami of really retardeds that make rich 4 smart guys with a smile on our lips ... while in other projects they can obtain consideration, integration and even economic benefits from their contribution as users and / or holders?
... Will this structure generate sufficient incentives for Mnodes and miners to face their task of maintaining the network?
... Will the DAO have adequate budgets to finance necessary developments? - even more necessary when you cannot count on "free" activities of a basic militancy that is marginalized from any economic return and participation in the system, including an elementary right to vote regarding the project with which it identifies? -.

... Despite the fact that a paid Instant Send was already a disastrous financial precedent...will the platform bring new financing resources to solve the project's budgetary precariousness?

And finally :

... Does this gang of just a few hundred chumps really measure the consequences of their arrogant, conceited, selfish AND EXCLUSIVE attitudes? ... because, perhaps, those who have not yet come down from the throne of late 2017 and stepped on solid ground, are them.

The general dump that they insist so much on reminding us to justify this precariousness of money, productivity, leadership and talent ... has it also reached their pathetic egos? Or is someone still taking a nap and enjoying their best dreams in the Top 3 ... believing that the world public will come to eat in their hand out of sheer inertia of our excellence?

To the people, to the public ... you have to deserve it over, friends ... EVERY DAY. It is not enough to put on the big mouth of 4 charlatans demagogically and to exhaustion the word "community" so empty of content in this project ... while treating them like "Don nobody".


Anyway ... a few little things to ponder over, imho. (Troll stuff , in the opinion of others...arrogant and self-proclaimed Lancelots in defense of DASH  Roll Eyes ).
129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 07:04:45 PM

If i had to choose between focusing on price performance or on marketcap, i would always choose price performance.
Because price performance will hit my investment directly.


No, toxic qwizzie ... because you have no idea of ​​the monetary value of your MONETARY investment. You measure DASH like a mirror of the infinite fiat, when it should have been a firecracker in the fiat's ass. The worst thing is that the vast majority of the immoral hijackers of the DAO and other parasites of the ecosystem do it ... that's why you fuck the basic principles of the project (which impoverishes it monetarily, in a loop that dramatically feeds back) with that astonishing tranquility and impudence.

The fiat does not express value. Much less in a downtrend like the current one. With your system - or the one you want others to take on, like rednecks, to support your trick -, you may be groggy watching the fiat price of DASH rise slightly on the screen ... as BTC literally goes off the map - and other cryptos slip away for a higher yield than yours on several orders of magnitude.

On the other hand, the general quotation drain on other projects is infinitely less ... but, of course, you will not expose them, because you sell fucking smoke and you are not looking for a healthy - and powerful - synergy to adhere and share, but a corrupt one - and without future - to convince and benefit you - even if you know that you give an incorrect / misleading idea of ​​what you offer -.  The fair thing is that you include LINK, or ETH or BTC ... and make an average with those that you do expose. And there, the performance of DASH is dramatic, pitiful ... and among the "recognized" projects, in the queue ... totally disappointing.

Also, a drop percentage from ATH does not reflect the proportional depreciation of each token. If DASH makes 96% and another 90%, those 6 points sound relatively "close" ... but the truth and revealing is that from ATH, one saves 4% of its wealth and another 10% ... which represents 150% MORE of their own wealth saved ... a true cataclysm as a store of value. And letīs remeber :  with those unfortunate percentages of 90%, we talk about a difference , negative for DASH, respect to some coins that are real garbage without the least added value ( because I insist: To those who have a normal or positive performance ... better not look at them - it is literally to cry : LTC retains 500% better its own wealth than DASH; ETH, almost 800% , eight times !.... absolutely crazy - ).

But not only that. The worst of all and the real drama is that DASH has collective financial resources to mitigate this negative scenario, when almost all the others reduce their performance capacity to the simple private profit of their token fiat price. And it works like the worst ... wasting all those resources.

How long has DASH been burning wealth to reinforce the positive direction of its project? Those millions of dollars are measured in two figures ... or in three? It's chilling.

And for more joke, also, wiping his ass on a whim with the three basic principles (financial independence *, decentralization ** and resistance to censorship ***) ... that is, as the tremendous blow to the ground does not seem to be damage enough for this legion of incapables ... on top, you dig a deeper grave. That is, prostitution of the principles of the project by incapable corrupt ignorant ... that all together are worth less than what Duffield shit on a plate (and that transfer that precariousness abroad like an open book, canceling the expansion of DASH to new interested people , with what, in addition to having tied the past and present potential of the project ... you also condition its future growth capacity: Well, even for the proven limitation of the active / executive mass of DASH ... absolutely ROUND, GREAT ! ).


* pure shit reserve of value ... totally conditioned by speculative capital in BTC and fiat.

** Total decentralization points, irrelevant and a purely cosmetic data in an anonymous property system. ( even more so with voting where a single click decides more than a hundred votes - like the last one in which it threatened to defund DASH Next - )

*** Funding of critical opinion-repressing trolls on DASH's communication channels ... or from the media that in almost six years of EVolution delays, have not dumped a single reasonable and logical criticism of such breaches... which favors perpetuating mistakes and volontary vices (as two simple samples of the authentic repressive orgy that is imposed in the informative exchange channels of a DASH that it was a jewel and you turn into a cheap theater ).

You are welcome.  Wink
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 05:02:30 PM

Crypto mining is absolutely overvalued.

Not as overvalued as "free money".

And?

I speak of an aspiration for solid money (by the way ... the simile of mining production, too ... and more supporting an ethical discourse, as I think is your case). Free money does not even aspire to that ... and of course, it is not any ideological aspiration or reference, just the cheating profit of its respective beneficiaries. ( And faith in him would be, in any case, pure convenience, not ideology. ).

Finally, we are not talking about repositories either (or are we?). In any case, we will talk about the repository with the smallest distance from Real Money ... which is, in turn, the closest to Real Wealth. (and that obviously can bring many qualities of use to something whose maximum value is its unequaled, inimitable SIMPLICITY and therefore, cannot be sophisticated ).

Because there is already one money and only one money: Gold - without surnames like "Digital" , "National" or any other. MOLECULAR expression of wealth. Unsurpassed as such -.

Everything else, if they are not debts, are promises. (that we look for THE BEST, it is another story)- And the best repository / promise of wealth (conservator of value) ... is the one that least contained real wealth lets out. That's the key, the armor ... not the production.
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 03:47:21 PM

Doge is not trying to sustain "commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of the asset". Dash is.

You're conflating capital gains/losses with operating margins for economic activities.

Nonsense.  DOGE is a pure mined coin, one of which you hold to such high esteem and yet its price is languishing not unlike DASH's.  Applying your faux logic one would believe that DOGE should be gaining value rather than making an all time.  You seem to have no answer to this, instead you point again to what you purpose is DASH's faultly economic model, a diversion.  First we need to establish the truth to what you claim, that a 100% mined coin fairs better than one partially mined coin.


Crypto mining is absolutely overvalued. Even more so in projects that can be forked and recreate tokens effortlessly. It is normal for the most orthodox judgments to assume that correlation because it is an original crypto dogma ... but it will be overthrown (in fact, today there are already countless samples in the crypto ranking of it).

Crypto miners are not physical miners. That analogy had less travel yet than that of BTC as physical Gold. BTC is worth by the current consensus - imo, the covert alliance - of big capital, which has already included it in its roadmap (imo, it is only mainstream public blessing, because BTC was, from its own and calculated design, a catalyst and valve out of a fiat pressure cooker with no future due to its manipulation of no return - aspect that was assumed in the Lehman crisis : sustain the scam by printing to death ... or explode in 2008 - ... and because a Tether even less valuable than fiat, but a crypto consensus trick, has sustained and dragged until this final party (In simile cyclist, "he has pulled his leader to the foot of the port").

Intrinsic value is the monetary power of each project (for which technology is key - but nothing by itself -) ... and the shielding of ownership and value of the resulting consensus currency. It doesn't give a shit if it was created with a snap of the fingers ... what matters is the power to use it - qualities, capacity -, the exclusivity of that use - property - and how those parameters are accepted in a userīs community. If it's really good for something and it's irreplicable (copies are replicas ... and not only : enhanced copies, competing currency advances) ... it will be valuable, regardless of the initial production system. By the way ... and regarding the power of using it ... No money has a 100% intrinsic use ... ONLY GOLD recreates the process of economic exchange without more guests than the protagonists of an exchange of wealth between two parties. Gold shows itself among the parties involved, acts ... and disappears until it expresses its miracle again. Per se,  without the need for any external authority (political, digital or otherwise) to the inherent between two free parts. That will cause the bullish explosions of a BTC whose value is that of its own price trend to end up en masse, in Gold (and other Real Wealth destinations, but we are talking about the monetary ones). But that is another story, very long term ... and cryptos, along that way, will have their role. In summary and imo, I would say that BTC will be the best customer of Gold ... as well as so many other assets of real value. (Of course, after continuing to drag the value of Gold under the shit in front of the public opinion).

Any crypto that wants to perpetuate itself must be provided with backups in Real Wealth (...or it will just be an frenzy orgy of numbers going in and out of it - for lovers of pyrotechnics and tothemoons, sorry ... the increases NEITHER consolidate value- ). And the shielding of that real wealth will produce (certainly consolidate) a measure of usable value as currency. That is its value.

By the way ... DASH (coincidentally again , Rtaylor ) is already implementing Real Wealth Repositories in DASH... although the Mnodes, as always ... vote for them with their ass and its characteristic blindness. (by the way ... the best thing for DASH ... if what interests you about the project is its ability to receive, accumulate and project wealth AS A COLLECTIVE STRUCTURE is ... the "possible" increase of the common treasure up to 20% of every Superblock - casually also "slipped" by the most "harmless, quiet and clueless" boy in school ... RTaylor  Roll Eyes -)
132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 02:18:38 PM
 Tok, you are a natural born fudder, please stop being deceitful and going as far as feeding the trolls to fuel your FUD filled agenda, it reflects poorly on you.

X Greeting.


Stop trying to inhibit free thought and expression, con artist. This is not the corrupt Dash TROLLK discord. The few arguments that you have presented have been dismantled to you at the minute and with a click. Contribute others ... or stop trolling.

Obviously, not because of TokNormal, which is not going to give you any fucking attention ... but so that you do not intoxicate the rest of DASH followers.

Do something positive, come on, go suck the verge of "two showers less", for example ... that always makes you smile.  Grin And if you have a romantic day ... i donīt know...call some mariachis.  Wink

Isn't it wonderful that we're all happy?  Grin
133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 12:56:44 PM

They will steal your money until all the DASH cap does not arrive even to buy a bitcoin. Duffield's miracle, a powerful weapon and the perfect antidote , was given away ... but it fell into the middle of a rotten gang that wipes its ass with it, every day. With him ... and with your money. Walk slowly through this garbage, companions.

Translation for the deaf...you cannot sustain commercially uneconomic profits out of the capital value of an asset without eventually destroying that asset.


Oh yeah Huh

Explain the destruction of that asset. ( because THIS current structure, YES , IS the INTERESTED destruction of that asset , the owner of the magic potion against the scam of the BTC black hole an his extractive scam - or perhaps, its destruction only in the eyes of those who own it - . That powerful asset that they deliberately keep paralized ).

The, for some people,  "inordinate" S2F of DASH and a tombstone impossible to drag if you treat your asset as garbage, is, with the optimization of the system of self-financing of DUffield (really, just letting it work and not boycotting it) , a divine blessing as soon as you link that asset (DASH) to a real wealth floor in value deposits hermetics to speculation executed against the constantly fucked main asset . Automatically, you've got a proportional solid money printing machine. So, how it sounds.

Now tell me that a guy who's worked at MCKinsey for half a dozen years doesn't understand something so elementary ... and that he needs to raise the stability of DASH ... incomprehensible gibberish or arguments about the sex of angels.  Wink That exposed automatic correlation understands it ... even whoever scrubs the toilets there.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-taylor-dash/

134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 11:57:43 AM


Probably about $160 is my guess, with a possible wick as high as $240.  Noting that fair value is at $90 currently.

Mmm I do not know. mate ... no gifs of colored dolls, rockets to the moon or fireworks ... not so effective. Call Mason or to your censor friend "two showers less" ... they have a closet full of effective emoticons for clueless Fiat owners . Grin

Rethink that trolling, we need strength and "hook" for the next fools wave to deliver 6-figure Mnodes, bro...because the air alone does not feed  Cool





Without Reserves of real wealth in consolidated stores of value off chain - and unrelated to speculation against DASH - (A REAL AND INALIENABLE FLOOR ) none, I repeat, NO inflows of wealth will be held by DASH - although you and your speculative shenanigans give a crap, eh , "DASH Defender"?...better to send the hypes of DASH direct to your personal pocket than to consolidate them in the wealth of the collective project that you all squeeze, eh, artist? - ... Wink Grin
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 18, 2020, 11:53:29 AM

The waiting is now on Bitcoin to begin its next dump cycle and for Altcoins (including Dash) to begin their next pump cycle.
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin


Great ! That's yet another string to the Dash economic-fundamentals bow.

That's all on top of our stablecoin price-throttling mechanics.

Nice !


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LOL !!! ... Cross your fingers, say "abracadabra" and trust the altcoins lottery !!! The roadmap from the DAO hijackers to paradise! who needs a gun to the head ... with these gurus at the helm Huh Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Toxic qwizzie ... with its daily ration of poison (you can't be such so idiot for that long, no sir). And the other, the "controlled dissident" whose "miraculous reconversion" for the cause we witness live... well ... a couple of years ago boycotting the DASH comunication channels, like all his parasitic mafia, any stable, hyper-necessary, desperate resource for the system in a process of free fall ... which of course they dropped, and now, buying cheaply the ruin of people who trusted their fantastic tales ... and selling us magic potions "RTaylor style" with tightrope walking in the heights and colorful graphics: Fattening the Christmas turkey again, nothing new.




Nakamoto's Cannibalism, exploding like a real shot. Obviously.It is the soundtrack at the Fiatīs funeral ... to spawn the scam of the next centuries. Change everything so that nothing changes.


And here, the DAO hijackers, focused on their information intoxication, their scams ... and taking their seats from other DAO beneficiaries, such as the miners and formerly the most humble owners of DASH ... while they nail to which he holds his ass. A government of repressors, idiots, thieves and liars, nothing more.

As soon as BTC starts its next contraction move ... DASH, on its way to zero ... just like any other that does not face the poisonous standard that absorbs everything. Each of these parasites that plunder the treasure after years and years and millions and millions of wasted resources, has no forgiveness from God.

Now, after all this monstrous waste, the objective is no longer to get rich and surf this revolution from a preferential place, but just to survive ... not to take advantage of the trend and ensure financial freedom and that DASH grows as brutally as BTC ... only to achieve the crossing point between the value of DASH and that of its Reserves. From there, your wealth cannot be drained. DASH didn't want to do it to be rich: He will do it to keep breathing.

As long as that does not occur, only the poison of the parasites and / or fools ... and a direct descent into hell. BTC is an enemy, it is designed to drain. The solution to being independent of his attacks is not to run away from his game or live with his back to him ... but to get into it, to get into his veins. Not escape, but face.

Even if DASH rose 300% today and the poisonous Mason flooded tweeter with colored rockets and roller coasters, it would not escape Nakamoto's Cannibalism - because BTC could accompany its rise and boycott it from above by withdrawing its capital, strategically inserted in that rise as future bombs. ... is an infinite process on an open-traded asset - ... and that 300% or a hundred times more, would disappear with a snap of the fingers. And THAT is financial freedom: Escaping drainage standards. The fiat, is the official ... BTC is the one of the "presumed liberation" (in reality, it is just a catalyst of that same fiat, among other things ... the same scam raised to the umpteenth power and varnished with libertarian altruism ).

The inertial "stabilities" that all these idiots propose, with their cheap witch dances, starting with Rtaylor, are a fallacy. They survive by their assaults on the Treasury, they are the dirty hands OF YOUR CHEST. Their cheap magic doesn't feed them. They sell us shit ... but they eat meat. And of course ... they are loaded with BTC up to their ears: The same wealth that they deny to this scammed community. The REAL community ... not its thieves club, painted pink.

 6 years of children's stories, theft and subsidized laziness. Smoke and mirrors with Evolutions, entire countries adopting our currency - and it's so shitty they don't even with 4-digit inflation - and "misunderstood excellence" ... GARBAGE. BTC is designed to steal. DASH, to sow. The war between good and evil, black and white, archangels against fallen angels ... is served. But Ryan Taylor and other trolls delay it ... or deny it to us ... while ruining thousands of people who have trusted their filthy tongue with their lies and thefts. The DAO kidnappers, with the formula in their hands, are busy in their greed for tiny and miserable beings ... in its fifth division human essence. Duffield designed a system that grew with assaults / invasions and shielded itself from speculation: But that miraculous gift fell into the middle of a pigsty of idiots, miseries, and vile.

Nakamoto's Cannibalism is disarmed ONLY with exposure to BTC and Gold - the only asset that synthesizes wealth per se on Wall Street, in a cave at night, in the middle of the desert or in an arctic igloo ... that reproduces an economic exchange without necessity of third parties unrelated to the economic deal, is the essence of a wealth exchange without treasurer signatures, portraits of dead presidents or digital confirmations ... and that must support any system, it must be the safe of any economic structure, and more than one that cyclically dumps the spoils of his robberies emptying himself to resume his umpteenth "puff" at the expense of wealth and the breath of others -.

They will steal your money until all the DASH cap does not arrive even to buy a bitcoin. Duffield's miracle, a powerful weapon and the perfect antidote , was given away ... but it fell into the middle of a rotten gang that wipes its ass with it, every day. With him ... and with your money. Walk slowly through this garbage, companions.
136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 17, 2020, 05:36:50 PM
I leave a post on the Uncensored DASH Reddit that may fit well here (in the DASH Official, they remove the Karma points so that the public cannot see them, so, the mods themselves filter which messages can appear and which cannot - without insults or anything like that, pure conceptual screening -):

https://www.reddit.com/r/DashUncensored/comments/jq3v1l/improve_proposal_system_competing_proposals/





"The big fish eats the little one.



Yesterday on BTC Talk, a DashTROLLKDiscord troll boasted of being able to control the power of miners and sweep them off the network (it involved an undoubted objective fact in "libertarian" intentions: That the Mnodes network can marginalize, in a "presumably" decentralized structure , members, and even proactive DASH collectives of any level of involvement).

There is a great parallel there with respect to the famous funding of the infamous intoxicating pit DASH NEWS to officially "marginalize trolls" (trolls who themselves decided who they were, of course ... and therefore, it was simply trampling dissent in DASH with charge to the common treasury. Censorship financed in the paradise of "resistance to censorship").



- The first objective was the microholders ... burying and blocking the shared Mnodes devised by Evan Duffield. The modest possessions of these people were deprived of value by denying them integration into the incentive system that drives the project (rewards and votes) - The famous "community" that does not exist ... that ceased to exist in that context - .



- Now, the miners: With the risk of centralization of mining (certain risk), a letter of authority is given to marginalize them from the distributions (remember that Taylor's original exposition of the "reserve of value that never was and never will be" he had a POS option for DASH (which he later tried to deny himself, already late) ... that is, he not only launched an obvious threat of marginalization to an essential group in DASH, the miners ... but he invited it to marginalize - he just "opened his eyes" and put them in the center of the target - the others, of course ... "stole for its plate" -. Nobody becomes bitter by a candy.



What is absolutely evident is that large DASH holders can, by sheer inertia and "excess ammunition", take advantage of hypes to expand their positions (modest Mnodes owners assume a huge risk by selling positions in an uptrend, since in In case of error, they would leave the decision and rewards scopes of the system ... but large owners can make partial sales without assuming that risk. Partial sales that allow them to amplify positions by whole units or dozens of Mnodes ... which minimizes the power of decision of the "modest" Mnodes every day).



Likewise, those who liquidate dozens of Mnodes to fiat in bullish peaks like the current one, can perfectly spend YEARS of the bear market recharging cheaply ... while members with one or two Mnodes regret not having sold up and see their investment literally disappear in fiat terms ... with the consequent financial effort, wear and tear and sales spirit.

Thus, DASH's centralized power and incentive structure leads to progressive concentration. The whales will always grow ... and the modest Mnodes will fight to retain their positions - although those positions will be diluted proportionately: Their asses are sold under the whims of the whales when they have sufficient voting power -



And thus the modest Mnodes, many of whom arrogantly believed themselves to be DASH's "elite" a year or two ago on social media ... see their voting power not only diluted ... but their position it remains at the expense of any "majority" decision - scrutinized by DASH's "5000 point" decentralization fallacy, which progressively favors centralization of governance.



And that they stop collecting or voting, for example (RTaylor periodically insists that more than 5000 Mnodes is not advisable for the NETWORK) ... it is as possible as fucking the miners today ... and their "single" Mnodes are , for the centralized network that tends to become even more concentrated, as expendable as miners are today ... to their own supportive applause.



The incredible thing is that many Mnodes of this profile are directly involved in supporting the financial instability, censorship and centralization of the network promoted, step by step, by the DASH lobbies with large niche coins. And they believe that by making others pay for the consequences of a flawed structure, they are free to be trampled on. They stupidly believe that they are harming others ... when what they harm is the decentralization of a system that is the guarantee of their interests as the sum of individuals that they are. (You have to be really an idiot). They believe that riding the wave of active voting and rewards in DASH is a long-term right, a safe place where they are installed forever, because they have already "passed the cut" - as the miners believed 3 or 4 years ago - ... when belonging to that group depends, every moment, on a simple vote / decision ... that time makes it run against you. Now they are complacent pigs, expansions and collaborators of the worst practices, because their pathetic egocentricity installs them in a personalistic perspective, and they only think that they harm other members ... when what they are vitiating and harming is the network, turning it into an incapable structure to protect the decentralized collective synergy and the general interest of that same network, which is its main leitmotif.



That they are the next fucked up, it's only a matter of time. By the way ... with much more merit than those who have not collaborated to fill DASH with vice and shenanigans against the basic principles that created the project."
137  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 17, 2020, 05:28:50 PM


Nice ! I think I've found something about Spork 21 I can get behind and promote at last.




"He who does not console himself is because he does not want to"...and there, each one is free, of course.

Three pump & dumps with no real wealth backing to face them ... and they leave the coin like a shivering skeleton.

The equilibrium is not built on a basis of adoption or internal remuneration of the system, not even - directly - on an inflation by emissions ... but on a TREMENDOUS speculative sector. That is the scenario that determines price discovery in crypto.

The rest, aspirin for cancer.
138  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 16, 2020, 05:47:11 PM
How to filter through all that noise ?

Edit : never mind, i found the solution  Wink


LOL !!! ...:   Cheesy  Cheesy  Cheesy ... But you weren't the king of ignore, phony? Won't you let us enjoy your arrogance anymore?

But...yes!...Solutions ( me ) that revert to ALL DASH followers , EVERYONE, a legitimate and ethical aspiration in a crypto monetary colective structure ... and that of course, thieves like you will never implement to share the exclusive of your centralized robbery. That's why you invent and spread nonsense as measures that of course fix nothing ... to keep DASH volatile and keep raiding it while you sweep away more members of the casting community, in this case, the miners.

You have done it before with thousands of microholders, possibly many of them from Venezuela or other countries where gathering 10 DASH is a dream ... systematically blocking the promised Shared Mnodes, scam demagogues! ... today, the miners ... and tomorrow, who knows? Mnodes whose isolated vote is worth NOTHING ?

Go give a thanks to the rollercoaster cart who sure has already uploaded Mason to tweeter to catch the savings of naive new fools, like every time they pump it 10 $ ... and, already, in passing, tell Valenzuela to send some trolls with at least three figures of IQ, come on ... we get bored with schoolgirls.  Kiss
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 16, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
Beyond Rtaylor's insubstantial juggling to consolidate a store of value, now conveniently chanted by the rest of DAO hijackers ... the ONLY UNDISCUTABLE solution is an exposure to proven stores of value.

For DASH to consolidate its hypothetical rises, it is IMPOSSIBLE to ignore speculative agents and their Casino practices, such as Nakamoto's Cannibalism in BTC, the infinite fiat - direct, or amplified via BTC - ... or, specifically, DASH pump & dump prayers such as xkdc or the Pig of Canada (who shamefully define themselves as advocates of the project and are used and supported by DASH referents to intoxicate the project's information channels). The absolutely inexcusable IS DRIPPING proper RESERVATIONS to a destination that supports DASH.

In this way, speculative capital pumping its ecosystem would revalue those reserves every time they withdraw their artificial capital injections ... and DASH would take advantage of their speculative inflows ... and also their withdrawals.

Any rise in DASH is a leap to the bare chest and a renunciation of retaining the wealth received in its ecosystem (a fundamental resource to consolidate the financial independence that Duffield expressed in his original approach ... with which all these charlatan parasites wipe their asses , no matter how much feigned fidelity they dramatize at the expense of DASH, not developing resources in that sense is absolutely unaffordable Russian roulette for a 6-year-old project already ... one of the deans of the crypto sector.

Meanwhile ... the trolls keep spouting irrelevant stupidity to keep the holders distracted ... and their owners, bloating their pockets at the cost of sinking an inimitable project at its inception.

The first thing that DASH must do to be a Reserve of Value is to take advantage of ALL the capital received in its ecosystem. With the resources for that ... keep the crooks playing their rotten games ... zero problems.

Financial independence ... that's what they call it.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][DASH] Dash (dash.org) | First Self-Funding Self-Governing Crypto Currency on: November 16, 2020, 04:14:22 PM

His insistent view that a crypto currency is only worth the value that it places on miners is at best dishonest and at worst an outright lie.

Ok, lets just do the accounting for how the value gets into the chain and we'll soon see who is propagating the "outright lie".

Lets also see how "valuable" bitcoin becomes when it ditches its hashrate and adopts chainlocks instead to secure its network so that it can issue coins at no cost to anybody. They sure don't look like they're in a rush to do so and neither is anybody else.

You don't understand the Canadian Pig and his "high and altruistic wishes"! - another aneuronal parasite that prays in public for $ 5 DASH, widely known in discord for having been engendered by the anus, rather than from the front (his mom was a real visionary of what she contributed to this world... we cannot deny that family merit) -

"As BTC is irrelevant garbage compared to DASH ... and the miners, a threat of centralization ... we centralize it ourselves, 4 whales (and their crumb-eating ass-licking trolls ) ... and fixed matter !!!" ( Intellectual excellence in nectar always at the service of decentralization and the "general interest" ... it must be recognized!  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy )
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