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12021  Other / Politics & Society / Dr. Judith Curry, now called a "Denier" on: March 22, 2015, 09:32:25 PM
lovin the 'deniers' fest in here. eating alive them poor lost not-so-scientific 'believers'. Grin

I guess I've read her work for ten years more or less.  Highly technical stuff and well reasoned.  Now consider the following.  Curry et al examines some data, comes up with hypothesis, method of examination, conclusions and summary.  The scientific method, right?


http://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/03/20/new-study-climate-alarmism-takes-one-helluva-beating/

In a paper published last year (Lewis & Curry 2014), discussed here, Judith Curry and I derived best estimates for equilibrium/effective climate sensitivity (ECS) and transient climate response (TCR). At 1.64°C, our estimate for ECS was below all those exhibited by CMIP5 global climate models, and at 1.33°C for TCR, nearly all. However, our upper (95%) uncertainty bounds, at 4.05°C for ECS and 2.5°C for TCR, ruled out only a few CMIP5 climate models. The main reason was that they reflected the AR5 aerosol forcing best estimate and uncertainty range of −0.9 W/m2 (for 2011 vs 1750), with a 5–95% range of −1.9 to −0.1 W/m2. The strongly negative 5% bound of that aerosol forcing range accounts for the fairly high upper bounds on ECS and TCR estimates derived from AR5 forcing estimates.


Oh my gosh no.  Curry finds conclusions that don't fit the political narrative of climate change.

NOW SHE'S CALLED A DENIER!!!!
  (hey...wait a minute...isn't this just some of that science type stuff???)

Well, welcome, Dr. Curry.

lol....
12022  Other / Politics & Society / Re: How Social Justice Warriors Are Creating An Entire Generation Of Fascists on: March 22, 2015, 08:47:18 PM
When I read this writing, I immediately was reminded of how this forum operates and the behavior of people around here operating under the self proclaimed title of "scambuster" or something similar claiming to be doing a "service for the community".  In reality they are only seeking public justification for relentlessly harassing targeted individuals so they can continue to do so without repercussion, at the expense of the entire community. Social justice warriors are active here on Bitcointalk, only here they like to call themselves "scambusters", and they are every bit as obsessive compulsive, narcissistic, and fascist. Unfortunately this is a global issue, not just effecting Bitcointalk. Real oppressors always wear the skin of a liberator, this way they can get all of the true believer's packed with cognitive dissonance to mindlessly dump hate upon targets they designate. This is a growing problem for all walks of life. Please be on the alert for this sociopathic behavior disguised as justice.

http://thoughtcatalog.com/joshua-goldberg/2014/12/when-social-justice-warriors-attack-one-tumblr-users-experience/

Every person starts with the same basic mix of qualities, including narcisism.

Some people use their mix, including their narcisism, to "bust scams", others use it for other things.

Hypocrisy and irony reach astounding heights when someone complains about the narcisism of social justice.
No, people do not start with the same basic mix of qualities.  People start and remain wildly different, which is good.  Some are obsessive, some are creative and imaginative.  And some are basically driven to control other people.
12023  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 22, 2015, 08:45:05 PM
Sure, Ben Franklin is commonly called an atheist and most Americans aren't overly religious either way.   But - can you name a single US president who wasn't a Christian?  Didn't the founding fathers inherit a Christian state (if not, what's up with all the Christian institutions, no to mention all the Christians?).  Is "In God We Trust" a reference to Shiva, or Vishnu - or perhaps if you were honest: to Christian notions of God.    Damn, all the presidents being Christian is nothing compared to the knowledge that the GOP is headed up by some true religious fanatics - end times theologians.  One of those nutters might well have his finger on "the button" come 2016. Their delusional Armageddon fantasies drive much of your foreign policies.  Policies that created the conditions for ISIS to flourish for example.  Face it Christians tried to improve on Judaism and Muslims tried to improve on Christianity and Judaism, but all in all - they aren't so different and especially the Jews and Christians are reading from the same end-of-times playbook.
I got to hand it to you, that's a pretty good troll rant.  Can I have some of what you are smoking? 

What the fuck you talking about, founding fathers "Inherit a Christian state?"  NOTED:  Nice sideslip from Islam --> USA --> Christian --> warped crazy idea about GOP.  The USA is not a theocracy, Saudi Arabia and Iran are theocracies.

WTF is "policies that created the conditions for ISIS?"  You know what creates the conditions for a pack of wolves to be on the hill?  The flock of sheep in the valley.
12024  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 22, 2015, 06:41:10 PM

The evidence shows that a percentage of muslims do practice violence in the name of their spiritual leader.  ... A rebuttal to this argument by saying "US is a warmonger?"  

Well, yes since it shows that most of the killing / atrocities today, which are committed by the US are in fact more related to Christianity than Islam.  US being a Christian nation, in God you trust, every president has been Christian, etc.

This is false.   The US is expressly not a "Christian nation" and this was a strong desire of the Founding Fathers.  There are a fair number of Muslims in the US, going back to their serving in the Civil War.  (State by state, the percentages vary a lot.)  Most people in the US are not religous, or use various religious affiliations only for weddings and birth and death ceremonies.

More specifically, the US is constitutionally and politically a secular nation, not affiliated with any religious group.

Sorry but this gets in the way of your twisted logic that tries to link USA/Christians to atrocities.
12025  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 22, 2015, 05:46:10 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

Taqiyya holds a central place in Twelver Shi'a Islam. This is sometimes explained by the minority position Shi'ites had under the political dominance of Sunni Muslims, requiring them to protect themselves through concealment and dissimulation.

Is taqiya practiced only between musims?


I do not think the recent upwelling of FATWAs against ISIS by Muslim clerics would be an example of such deceit and lying, but instead acts of bravery in the face of likely deadly consequences. 

But let's judge them by their actions not their words, if you like.  FATWAs are only words, one could argue.
12026  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 22, 2015, 05:36:23 PM
I also seek to help them realize misconceptions and blatant lies which they thought was true.

Here is the latest atrocities from "the religion of peace."


2015.03.20 (Damasak, Nigeria) - At least seventy dumped bodies are discovered after a town is recaptured from Boko Haram.
2015.03.20 (Hassakeh, Syria) - Thirty-five Kurds celebrating their New Year are turned into paste by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.20 (Sanaa, Yemen) - A large number of children are among one-hundred and forty innocents eliminated by Sunni suicide bombers as they worshipped at two Shiite mosques.
2015.03.20 (Kathua, India) - Radical Muslims storm a police station and murder four people.
2015.03.19 (Giza, Egypt) - Two people go up in flames when suspected Ansar Beit Al Maqdis firebomb a youth center.
2015.03.18 (Shirqat, Iraq) - A man and his wife are executed by the caliphate for her not wearing a veil.

So that means you didn't agree with me in "psychos and muslims are different". As I have said earlier if some people are doing it, does that mean whole muslims are bad people? No!
.....


The evidence shows that a percentage of muslims do practice violence in the name of their spiritual leader.  How and why do you respond to this with some anti-US tirade?  I quoted recent violence by muslims in Nigeria, Syria, Yemen, India, Egypt and Iraq.  Not seeing the connection.  A rebuttal to this argument by saying "US is a warmonger?"  

The above list of atrocities is accurate.  Do not try to derail the subject please.   So who are these people in so many different places, all saying they are Muslim and they are violent?  Are they all just psychos?  Let's look at March so far.

Are they all just psychos?  Is it this easy to just shrug of this many events in so many places?


       date - country - city - killed - injured
2015.03.21    Somalia    Afgoye    2    5    Islamists toss a grenade into a market, killing two bystanders.
2015.03.20    Nigeria    Damasak    70    0    At least seventy dumped bodies are discovered after a town is recaptured from Boko Haram.
2015.03.20    Syria    Hassakeh    49    177    Fifty Kurds celebrating their New Year are turned into paste by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.20    Yemen    Sanaa    142    351    A large number of children are among one-hundred and forty innocents eliminated by Sunni suicide bombers as they worshipped at two Shiite mosques.
2015.03.20    India    Kathua    4    10    Radical Muslims storm a police station and murder four people.
2015.03.19    Egypt    Giza    2    0    Two people go up in flames when suspected Ansar Beit Al Maqdis firebomb a youth center.
2015.03.18    Iraq    Shirqat    2    0    A man and his wife are executed by the caliphate for her not wearing a veil.
2015.03.18    Tunisia    Tunis    23    44    Twenty Western tourists are among twenty-three innocents shot to death at a museum by Islamic terrorists.
2015.03.18    Pakistan    Yakutat    1    0    The Taliban gun down a secular-leaning politician.
2015.03.18    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    7    20    A suicide car bomber sends seven innocents to the hereafter.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Youssifiyah    2    5    Two local cops are murdered by Islamic State bombers.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Salahuddin    4    0    Four Iraqis are forced to their knees and beheaded by the Islamic State.
2015.03.17    Pakistan    Swat    2    3    Two children are neatly dispatched by a Jihadi mortar.
2015.03.17    Pakistan    Dana    3    0    Two women are gunned down along with their guard as they administer polio drops to children.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Baghdad    3    11    Jihadis kill three shoppers with a well-placed bomb at a market.
2015.03.17    Libya    Ghiran    2    6    An Islamist bomb leaves two dead.
2015.03.17    Cameroon    Golfo    1    2    Sharia advocates on motorbikes fire into a crowd, killing a civilian.
2015.03.17    Kenya    Wajir    3    3    Three are killed when Islamists throw a grenade into a shop, followed by machine-gun fire.
2015.03.17    Iraq    Tarmiyah    4    14    Four Iraqis are blown to bits by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.16    Iraq    Albu Ajeel    13    0    Thirteen beheaded corpses are recovered by security forces fighting ISIS.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    4    5    A woman and child Fare among four people liquidated by a Fedayeen suicide car bomber.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Gandir Area    2    5    Children are among the casualties when the Taliban bomb a family vehicle.
2015.03.16    Afghanistan    Oruzgan    1    0    A man is murdered in front of his wife and child by religious extremists.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Mosul    9    0    Nine people are shot in the back of the head for 'betraying the religion of Allah'.
2015.03.15    Libya    Misrata    1    1    At least one person is taken down by an ISIS car bomb.
2015.03.15    Somalia    Gedo    6    0    Six family members, including two children and two women, are slaughtered in their own home by al-Shabaab.
2015.03.15    Kenya    Mandera    1    3    Islamists fire on a car carrying mechanics, killing one.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Mosul    11    0    Eleven youth are executed by the Islamic State, five of whom are beheaded.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Lahore    17    70    Targeted suicide bomb attacks byJamaat-ul-Ahrar near two churches leaves fifteen worshippers dead.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Quetta    2    0    Two Shiite brothers are gunned down by radical Sunnis.
2015.03.15    Chad    Djargagoroum    1    0    A villager is murdered by Boko Haram.
2015.03.15    Pakistan    Shaktai    13    0    Thirteen mutilated victims of the Tehreek-i-Taliban are discovered.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Baghdad    2    12    Two people near a shopping center lose their lives to Mujahideen bombers.
2015.03.15    Nigeria    Egba    82    0    Fulani terrorists massacre nearly one hundred Christian villagers, mostly women and children.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Bashir    50    0    At least fifty ISIS execution victims are discovered in a mass grave.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Tikrit    16    0    A survivor reports that sixteen members of his family, including children, were butchered by the Islamic State.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Ramadi    23    43    A devastating caliphate car bomb claims two dozen lives.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Samarrah    3    0    Three Iraqis are taken down by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.15    Iraq    Baghdad    3    6    Jihaids bomb a Shiite neighborhood, killing three residents.
2015.03.14    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    3    6    Three children are pulled into pieces by fundamentalist bombers.
2015.03.14    Egypt    Cairo    1    0    A garbage collector and his donkey are killed by a planted bomb.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Ramadi    2    0    Two Iraqis are taken out by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Baghdad    4    11    Jihadis bomb a busy market, killing four shoppers.
2015.03.14    Iraq    Shamsa    19    0    Nineteen ISIS execution victims are found in a mass grave.
2015.03.13    Syria    Raqqa    8    0    Eight prisoners are forced to their knees and then beheaded with meat cleavers by the Islamic State.
2015.03.13    Syria    Deir Ezzor    1    0    An older woman is burned to death for not paying taxes to ISIS.
2015.03.13    Syria    al-Kheir    1    0    A mentally-challenged man is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.13    Iraq    Saqlawiya    3    5    Three others lose their lives to suicide bombers.
2015.03.13    Afghanistan    Deh Yak    7    3    Seven local cops are gunned down by Taliban fundamentalists.
2015.03.13    Kenya    Mandera    3    5    Islamists ambush a car and shoot three occupants to death.
2015.03.12    Somalia    Baidoa    6    8    A Fedayeen assault at a government compound leaves six defenders dead.
2015.03.12    Afghanistan    Takhar    8    0    Eight police officers, including four unarmed, are brutally murdered by the Talbian.
2015.03.12    Yemen    Baida    1    7    Shiite militia open fire on a protest rally, killing one member.
2015.03.12    Iraq    Tal Tamr    22    0    At least twenty-two Kurds lose their lives to an assault by ISIS terrorists.
2015.03.12    Iraq    Tikrit    1    1    A suicide car bomber kills one other person.
2015.03.12    Pakistan    Peshawar    2    8    Religious extremists pour machine-gun fire into a checkpoint, killing two officers.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Nineveh    3    0    Two homosexuals and a 'blasphemer' are beheaded in the two square by religious fundamentalists.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Baghdad    2    7    Jihadis set off a bomb at a parking lot which leaves two dead.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Hurriya    9    30    A suicide car bomber eliminates nine people along a city street.
2015.03.11    Somalia    Wanlaweyn    2    0    al-Shabaab militants attack a small town and kill two people.
2015.03.11    Egypt    Rafah    1    0    An ISIS affiliate shoots a 26-year-old Egyptian to death.
2015.03.11    Iraq    Ramadi    17    30    At least seventeen others are killed by a series of ISIS suicide car bombings.
2015.03.11    Syria    Raqqa    1    0    The caliphate releases video of one of their children executing a Palestinian while praising Allah.
2015.03.10    Egypt    al-Arish    1    30    A civilian is killed when a Shahid suicide bomber rams a water tanker.
2015.03.10    Nigeria    Maiduguri    34    17    A female suicide bomber slaughters nearly three dozen people at a market.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Lashkar Gah    7    28    Seven civilians are exterminated by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Pul-e-Khumri    1    15    One woman bleeds from shrapnel injuries following a Mujahid bomb blast.
2015.03.10    Nigeria    Maiduguri    8    15    Eight travellers are shot to death by Boko Haram terrorists.
2015.03.10    Egypt    al-Arish    1    6    Islamists kill a local soldier with a roadside bomb.
2015.03.10    Pakistan    Karachi    4    0    Four young cops are ambushed and murdered by Islamic terrorists.
2015.03.10    Afghanistan    Tirin Kot    4    5    Two children are disassembled along with two others by Taliban bombers.
2015.03.09    Pakistan    Chagharzai    2    0    Two women are honor killed over moral activity by family members with machine-guns.
2015.03.09    Iraq    Zoba    3    9    Three Iraqis are laid out by a Fedayeen suicide bomb blast.
2015.03.09    Iraq    Kirkuk    5    35    Three ISIS car bombs leave five dead.
2015.03.09    Egypt    al-Kharouba    3    1    Islamists murder three local soldiers with a roadside bomb.
2015.03.09    Pakistan    Karachi    1    0    A Shiite university student is shot to death in a suspected targeted attack by Sunnis.
2015.03.09    Libya    Derna    2    0    Two hostages are executed in cold blood by Islamists.
2015.03.09    Yemen    Mahfad    2    0    Two others are killed during an al-Qaeda attack.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Madaen    2    0    Two passersby are obliterated by a Mujahid bomb blast targeting a city bus.
2015.03.08    Afghanistan    Jawzjani    2    15    Talibanis murder two prison guards and set another man on fire.
2015.03.08    Mali    Kidal    3    8    Two children are among three killed when suspected al-Qaeda send rockets into a town.
2015.03.08    Egypt    Alexandria    1    9    One person is killed when Islamic militants set off a bomb outside a supermarket.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Mahmoudiya    3    17    A Sunni car bomb in a Shia area leaves three dead and seventeen others with splinter injuries.
2015.03.08    Bangladesh    Joypurhat    1    1    One passenger is killed when Islami Chhatra Shibir bombers target a bus.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Hussainiya    3    0    A blast at a restaurant in a Shiite area leaves three dead.
2015.03.08    Iraq    Baghdad    5    4    Five Iraqis are taken out by two Jihadi bomb blasts.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Tuz Khurmatu    8    32    A suicide bomber murders eight people in a town center.
2015.03.07    Mali    Bamako    5    8    Islamists throw a grenade into a nightclub, then hack some of the survivors to death with machetes while praising Allah.
2015.03.07    Afghanistan    Kabul    6    5    Sunni extremists attack a Sufi house of worship and slaughter eleven innocents.
2015.03.07    Nigeria    Maiduguri    62    139    Sixty people lose their lives to three separate suicide attacks on civilian population centers.
2015.03.07    Afghanistan    Greshk    1    3    A suicide bomber kills one other person.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Khan Bani Saad.    2    0    Two people at a sports venue are exterminated by Jihadi bombers.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Anbar    3    3    A Fedayeen suicide bomber sends three souls to Allah.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    3    11    Three people bleed to death following an Islamic bomb attack on a bus.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Hawija    20    0    Twenty men are butchered by Religion of Peace activists and hung at the gate to a city.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    2    7    Two people at a market are disassembled by a Mujahid bomb blast.
2015.03.07    Iraq    Baghdad    4    9    Jihadis send mortars into a neighborhood, killing four residents.
2015.03.06    Somalia    Beledweyne    3    0    A child is among three people murdered by al-Shabaab gunmen.
2015.03.06    Egypt    Mahalla    3    16    Terrorists detonate a bomb outside a bank, killing three bystanders.
2015.03.06    Iraq    Mosul    1    0    A secular judge is executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.06    Syria    Raqqa    2    0    Two men are shot in the back of the head by caliphate members.
2015.03.06    Israel    Jerusalem    0    5    A Palestinian rams his car into a group of people, injuring five.
2015.03.06    Libya    al-Ghani    11    0    Eleven guards at an oilfield are murdered by Islamists, some by beheading.
2015.03.06    Iraq    Tikrit    4    28    Four Iraqis are taken out by a suicide truck bomber.
2015.03.05    Syria    al-Qanafz    5    1    Two children are among five Shiite family members slaughtered by ISIS.
2015.03.05    Nigeria    Gwoza    6    0    A half-dozen elderly men are rounded up and executed by Boko Haram.
2015.03.05    Afghanistan    Uruzgan    2    0    Two local cops are gunned down by a Taliban insider.
2015.03.05    Afghanistan    Adam Khan    7    0    Seven police officers are poisoned and then shot by fundamentalists.
2015.03.05    Iraq    Baghdad    3    12    A bomb rips through an outdoor market, taking three souls.
2015.03.05    China    Guangzhou    0    13    Thirteen people at a train station are slashed by a group of Muslim terrorists.
2015.03.04    Philippines    Jolo    3    6    Abu Sayyaf terrorists ambush and kill three local soldiers.
2015.03.04    Syria    Aleppo    15    0    An al-Nusra bomb leaves fifteen dead.
2015.03.04    Iraq    al-Dour    5    0    Five Iraqis are cut down by a Fedayeen suicide bomber.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Hub    1    0    A Shia doctor is abducted and brutally tortured to death by Sunnis.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Karachi    2    0    A prominent Sunni and his driver are murdered by sectarian gunmen.
2015.03.04    Pakistan    Korangi    1    0    A Shia lawyer is shot twice in the head by Sunni gunmen.
2015.03.03    Yemen    al-Baida    5    15    Five others are killed by a double suicide bombing.
2015.03.03    Yemen    al-Qatan    3    2    Three security personnel are exterminated by al-Qaeda bombers.
2015.03.03    Syria    Raqqa    1    0    A gay man is thrown from a rooftop by the Islamic State.
2015.03.03    Iraq    Baqubah    3    0    Three civilians are brought down by Jihadi bombers.
2015.03.03    Afghanistan    Sangin    7    7    A Fedayeen suicide bomber makes mincemeat out of seven Afghans.
2015.03.03    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    10    A child and two women are killed when caliphate terrorists send mortars into a neighborhood.
2015.03.03    Niger    Lake Chad    17    0    Seventeen people are reported drowned or burned to death during a Boko Haram attack on their village.
2015.03.02    Pakistan    Marriabad    3    3    Evidence strongly suggests a targeted rocket attack was responsible for a blast that killed a religious minority and her two children in their home.
2015.03.02    Afghanistan    Jalalabad    2    2    Two children are pulled into pieces by Holy Warrior bombers.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Sinjar    77    0    More mass graves are discovered containing seventy-seven victims of ISIS killings - mostly minority women and children.
2015.03.02    Egypt    Cairo    2    9    Two civilians standing outside a courtroom are obliterated by an Islamist bomb.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Tikrit    4    0    Four tribesmen are shot in the back of the head by the Islamic State.
2015.03.02    Nigeria    Baga    2    0    Two men are beheaded on video by radical Islamists.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    3    ISIS militants send shells into a home, killing a woman and two children.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Dour    4    30    Four Iraqis are sectionalized by a Fedayeen suicide bomb blast.
2015.03.02    Nigeria    Njaba    68    24    Over sixty are reported dead after Islamists circulate a village and fire randomly into houses. Children were targeted.
2015.03.02    Iraq    al-Jalam    7    15    A truck bomb explodes, killing seven people nearby.
2015.03.02    Afghanistan    Nangarhar    6    2    Two children and two women are among a family cut down by Taliban roadside bombers.
2015.03.02    Niger    Bosso    2    0    Boko Haram members burn down a village and murder two fishermen.
2015.03.02    Iraq    Baghdad    3    15    Two Mujahid bombs, one at a soccer field and the other at a shop, leave three dead.
2015.03.01    Lebanon    Kuweikhat    1    0    Sunnis assassinate a prominent Shia.
2015.03.01    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    3    3    Three children are exterminated by an ISIS mortar.
2015.03.01    Iraq    al-Baghdadi    32    0    Nearly three dozen Iraqis are kidnapped and executed by the Islamic State.
2015.03.01    Iraq    Anbar    2    2    Two people are sent to Allah by a Shahid suicide bomber.
2015.03.01    Libya    Benghazi    2    30    Islamists are suspected of lobbing rockets into a government controlled area, killing two residents.

12027  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 22, 2015, 04:22:38 PM


“If a state has a climate denier governor that doesn’t want to accept a plan, that would risk mitigation work not getting done because of politics,” said Becky Hammer, an attorney with the Natural Resources Defense Council’s water program. “The governor would be increasing the risk to citizens in that state” because of his climate beliefs....

It's probably easiest to simply consider the likes of NDRC, Greenpeace, and the other major "environmental" organizations and nothing more than a new style of gangster.
12028  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 22, 2015, 04:18:41 PM
Yea hydrogen is dumb but I am pretty excited about super capacitor electric cars though. Oman i cant wait to have a sports car with a super capacitor in it. 0-60 in sub 3 seconds with no transmission. we will be able to drive cars that take off like fighter jets on an air craft carrier. Grin
Yeah, maybe until you have a wreck and instantaneous discharge....

lol....

Actually I like Prius, Teslas, etc...but not because they are trendy in some cults or fuel efficient or gonna save the world or any  of that crap.  They are just different and cool.

The electric cars, to understand them just think of them having a coal burning engine in the back, belching smoke.

Because that's where their power comes from.  But the liars pushing the Warmer scams do not tell people that.
12029  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 22, 2015, 04:06:13 PM

Who needs racism when you have advice like this from muslim clerics?

1.Is swimmming allowed in the same pool where non-muslims swim even if no-one is in the pool?As they do not do istinjaa,would the water be najs?

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

If the size of the public pool is more than 225 sq ft (20.9 m2) then it is considered a large body of water and will not become impure by non-Muslims swimming in it.

If the pool is less then 225 sq ft (20.9 m2), then if the non-Muslim had taken a bath before swimming, the water will be pure since there is no impurity on him.  If he did not take a bath before swimming and it is certain that there was impurity on him before he swam, then the pool is impure and all the water must be removed and refilled with clean water.  If the non-Muslim did not take a bath before swimming and one is unsure whether there was impurity on him or not, then it is better to abstain from such a pool until it is purified.

One should try to refrain from public swimming pools since there are usually occupied with women in immodest outfits.  Even the men usually wear outfits in which their satr is visible.


http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/15667

BY CONTRAST HERE IN THE USA, pools have been free for all races and ethnicities since the mid 1960s.  There's an interesting history on that.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90213675

racial segregation at pools in the North arose during the 1920s and 1930s, at the precise time that cities started to gender-segregate pools. And so in case after case after case, racial segregation occurred at the exact moment that gender integration occurred.

And the concern was the black Americans, black men, would take advantage of the pool environment, to brush up against white women, to touch them in the water, to visually consume them, as they were wearing, you know, relatively-tight-fitting, relatively-revealing swimsuits. And this sort of played into a psychology of needing to separate black men from white women.

MARTIN: So when desegregation happened, '40s and '50s, they were - swimming pools were integrated, then you write about what was called "white flight," essentially, from municipal pools. People started - white people started building their own private pools or individual, in family homes, even. Can you talk about the legacy of that phenomenon?



Fortunately, that is wrong. A place/thing which contains less than 2 qullath(approximately between 200 and 270 liters) and if we bath or wash in it(not with it), then no matter whether he/she is a muslim or non-muslim, the water isn't good to use for another use for cleaning the body or any part of it. Smiley

General thing about a pool:

It is advised to "take a bath before you enter into a pool so that the dirt and sweat will be removed". This board can be seen near many pools. It is also advised to take a bath after you swim in a pool because there maybe people who have any disease which may cause some problems in you.

How can you say this?  I have quoted from an esteemed imam.  Is it possible that different places, different rules?

Also, note the issue is the obvious level of discrimination between Muslims and non-Muslims, not any issue of cleanliness.

12030  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 22, 2015, 04:27:36 AM

I'm not seeing a great deal of "science" in the propaganda repository called the reddit climate forum.  I'm seeing pro warmer propaganda with no intelligent debate ALLOWED.
...

 The good news is, that pressure is growing. In fact, that relentless climate movement is starting to win big, unprecedented victories around the world, victories which are quickly reshaping the consensus view – including among investors – about how fast a clean energy future could come. It’s a movement grounded in the streets and reaching for the photovoltaic rooftops, and its thinking can be easily summarised in a mantra: Fossil freeze. Solar thaw. Keep it in the ground.

Triumph is not certain – in fact, as the steadily rising toll of floods and droughts and melting glaciers makes clear, major losses are guaranteed. But for the first time in the quarter-century since global warming became a major public issue the advantage in this struggle has begun to tilt away from the Exxons and the BPs and towards the ragtag and spread-out fossil fuel resistance, which is led by indigenous people, young people, people breathing the impossible air in front-line communities. The fight won’t wait for Paris – the fight is on every day, and on every continent.


Classic Agenda 21.  I actually waded through the whole tedious document though I did skim it in main sections because there was a lot of repetition with some combination of 'women', 'indigenous peoples', and often enough 'young people' being inserted into most of the elements of the action plan.  Those who study the document and associated programs characterize it, I think accurately, as a program of 'inventory and control' of all resources including human resources.  Some people group the 'common core' education effort with it's high level of focus on documenting, logging, and analyzing of everything possible about students on an individual level as a facet of this more general program of inventory and control, and for my part I find it a pretty strong hypothesis.

As I've said before, I was finally started studying intensely this climate change thing after being harassed by our environmental protection people for something which was obviously not a problem.  This led quickly to our local 'watershed council' which every watershed has (at least in my state of Oregon) and is supposedly not associated with the government though they receive millions of dollars per year in grants that flow through government agencies.  The first thing I noticed was how much they focus on kids.  The image they chose for their year long best pic was someone leading the kids in some sort of group calisthenics thing just like they do in more regimented societies.  Later I found that it was 'the form of the tree' and when they get a group of kids together for some project they start off with such exercises.  It's weird and creepy to me (but then, so was saying the pledge of allegiance back when I was a kid and I always tried to get out of it.)  In my research I discovered (through a NOAA web server) that the watershed council is actively engaged with ICLEI-USA to map the local population to a 'star community' program where the objective is 'compact, complete communities'.  ICLEI's stated goal for existence is to promote the agenda 21 action plan and it was formed a year before the Rio conference where agenda 21 was born to achieve this.

CO2 in the atmosphere has changed from 0.033% to 0.04% since I was a kid is treated with the utmost concern by our governments and other leaderships.  The rate of autism in our population here in the U.S. has changed 0.01% to 1.4% since I was a kid and it seems to be treated by the government with relative indifference.  Autism is characterized by a lack of empathy.  The sufferer has a deficiency in the ability to understand how another person feels.  Usually there are other mental anomalies, but many autistic people are quite functional in certain roles.  Between having a large population of such people to select, and the tools to analyze individuals in detail from cradle to 'career ready', I could imagine having a group of people who would make ideal bureaucrats and police to choose from if the autism trend continues, and I see no signs of it slowing down.  Suggesting that we might be witnessing the effects of some deliberate 'herd engineering' here is pretty conspiratorial, but it has enough explanatory power to retain as a hypothesis.  At least it does in my mind since it is evident that our leadership has the basic capacity to do some pretty fucked up stuff.

Looking at the whole catastrophic climate change program we do seem to see a remarkable propensity toward blind acceptance of what is incorrectly labeled 'consensus' of those in some supposed position of authority.  Also, in my conversations with less involved but supportive friends at least, a remarkable level of ignorance on some basic stuff like CO2 concentrations and function, though they 'know' fully that anyone who doesn't buy the 'consensus of experts' is ignorant, stupid, and influenced by 'big oil' or whatever.  Censorship is also something which seems to be perfectly acceptable to this crowd (as per the title of this thread.)  On top of that, there are increasing calls for outright enforcement of certain ideas by some political leaders, and a fair percentage of the population seems not offended by such things.  Frankly, it's weird and scary.  I've long theorized that if people are denied certain kinds of religion they will seek another form as an outlet, and that's why totalitarian states frequently ban historic religions with the goal being that people will shift some of these predispositions toward projects favored by the state.  There does seem to be a correlation between agnosticism toward mainstream religious among the more active of the environmental crowd, and I observe that some of the more nasty propensities of the devout (mentioned in this paragraph) are expressed anyway but focused toward a different goal.


I'm afraid you basically have all that right.  And it does sound like Oregon.  I live in Texas, and among the people I work and associate with, few take "climate change" seriously or will even bother to discuss it.  But there are outliers, like devout leftists who buy into all the trendy things like Hydrogen Cars.  They actually have got mad at me when I talk about hydrogen.  All I can think of is pimply faced kids with M16 rifles standing around government rocket launch sites with big cans of liquid hydrogen.   Well, I just have to laugh at the idea of those cans going down the road in cars.   People that are hypnotized with this stuff, you can't even talk to them about the cubic volume of hydrogen only being 4 lb per cubit foot and why they'd need a huge tank to match the energy storage capacity of gasoline.  But it's interesting to watch them and their faces as say one explains that gasoline has about six times the energy density, so hydrogen would need a 120 gallon (16 cubic feet) spherical tank to replace a 20 gallon (<3 cubic feet) tank.  Likely that would be a big lump in the back of the car where the trunk used to be,

About as this point the look of baffled puzzlement starts to turn to outright hostility (and I haven't even gotten into what happens in car wrecks or in any case where the composite pressure vessel softens....).  Then I tell them that this really would be cool for a Harley, because the rider could sit on that big 8000 psi ball....

The point is there never was and never will be cars driving around with pressure bottles of hydrogen, but all these saps were easily somehow talked into it.  They never even thought to think it out.  They've been somehow taught to not think.  So yea, there are deeper issues involved than "climate change" and sooner or later, those will have to be confronted.

12031  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Looks like Mars One is a scam in the making! on: March 22, 2015, 04:00:46 AM
Shit. I mean lol but there're real candidates who bet their lives on that project  Sad
Does not really matter.  There are a lot of questions about whether man can live on mars.  For example, the dirt is similar to bleach, it is an oxidizer.  So what happens if you get it on you?  You get rashes.  What happens if it gets in your lungs?  So forth and so on.

I think some animal tests would be in order, plunk them down on the Red Planet with some months of supplies and a test program.  At the end of the test period, they would be killed - if they lived that long.   Anyone who says that's not practical because of the long trip to get there better back off and think about how that applies even more strongly to humans.
No, testing Mars with animals is not good. If we could afford to transport animals to Mars we can do it with humans at the same price probably.
And while this mission may be suicidal - but truth to be told everyone signing for this kind of adventure know they may not live long.
Testing Mars with animals certainly is good.  Number of reasons for this.

First of all, understand that these animals will die.  Just like the early space tests with dogs and monkeys.  The animals will not be brought back to Earth.  This is no big deal in the grand scheme of things.

The big advantage is that one of the hibernating animal species could be used, such as marmots, ground squirrels, praire dogs.  This means they would be asleep during the transit to Mars.   We know from LEO operations with humans how humans do for six or eight months in weightlessness, that is not an issue.  The questions have to do with sustaining life on the surface of Mars.

After their arrival a number of useful tests could be ran on the animals.  Possibly food, water and breathing air could be provided for a year or so.  They'd be split into a number of test cells.  Some might have the local surface dirt injected into their environment, others might be exposed to the direct sun rays.
12032  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Under US Pressure Paypal Nukes Mega For Encrypting Files on: March 21, 2015, 07:50:42 PM
I cannot believe how in the year 2015 can there be so many friggin' retarded sheeple on the planet that they still depend on Painpal to make payments??!! How can people depend on that criminal organization?

Painpal is just one method of payment, there are so many others and there is always Bitcoin...

Hopefully in a few years, Painpal will have become unimportant and no longer be able to blackmail businesses... Angry

If Paypal was nearly as bad as you make it out to be, there would be a huge market opportunity for anyone to replace them with a 'less evil' business offering the same services. Any business that feels wronged by Paypal obviously won't use them. But far more businesses apparently see the value they offer, which is why Paypal has grown to the size it has. Bitcoin maybe has an opportunity to reduce fees even further, but as long as the price is so volatile, no business will want to deal in bitcoins. The biggest hurdle to bitcoin supplanting something like Paypal as a payment processor is bitcoin itself.

No Paypal exists only because US banking is massively disturbed. In Germany a bank wire is free, even 20 years ago it was free, nobody would use a scam service like Painpal to pay someone, but a simple free bank transfer.  Smiley

Due to the sick and twisted paper check based dinosaur US banking, Painpal could become powerful and finally, Ebay bought them and forces their users to offer Painpal in the US.  Angry

Painpal is terrible but they are a winner-takes-it-all sort of company

Bitcoin vola is not an issue if it is hedged or converted to fiat right away.

From a CUSTOMER perspective BTC is much better because Painpal freezes accounts and steals money all the time whereas Bitcoin wallets don't.

https://www.aboutpaypal.org/

And Paypal is disrupting the massively disturbed US banking system. They've identified a market opportunity and have seized it, and people see the value in it, which is why they use it. If the market opportunity is so huge and obvious to replace Paypal, why hasn't anyone done it yet?
a lot of women only become pro-gun After they've been assaulted..,
12033  Other / Politics & Society / Global Warming Blamed for Future UFO Attacks on: March 21, 2015, 06:47:43 PM

What on earth would incline you to think that "deniers" were not reading the research?  I don't know of any that haven't.

Spend some time listening to what mainstream people, and especially those who tend to be left-leaning are exposed to, and what those who take enough of an interest to follow the links to the various 'skeptical about skeptics' blogs.  It's hard not to find a paragraph which does not hammer home the idea that 'deniers' are wholly ignorant and uninterested in the 'science' and 'facts' and so on.  At least in the opening and closing frames.  As bad as it is in the climate change realm it's 10 times worse in the world of vaccine and GMO skepticism, but there is a certain signature which is hard not to notice.

Given the uniformity of this message and mode of delivery, I would be very surprised if it were not a fairly well thought out and coordinated approach to certain of the PR issues.  That may be a little conspiratorial, and similar things might legitimately be suspected of the 'denier' side I suppose, but I would not be at all surprised to find out that it is quite true in some cases.  To the best of my knowledge the 'warmist' have been caught red-handed doing some ugly things (Connolley/wikipedia, climategate, etc) while this is not the case so much with the 'deniers.'  I'll gladly evaluate any evidence of propaganda campaigns pinned to the 'denier' side.  At this point I find the 'deniers' more credible but I don't want to be chumped by anybody.


Well, here's the pitch from the reddit subform on climate.  

http://www.reddit.com/r/climate/top/

Interestingly, in this thread the Reddit forum has been defended multiple times along the lines of "Yeah, but if you are discussing science, you can't have those deniers coming in with all their political arguments.  They'll ruin a calm discussion of science."

You know what?

I'm not seeing a great deal of "science" in the propaganda repository called the reddit climate forum.  I'm seeing pro warmer propaganda with no intelligent debate ALLOWED.


 The good news is, that pressure is growing. In fact, that relentless climate movement is starting to win big, unprecedented victories around the world, victories which are quickly reshaping the consensus view – including among investors – about how fast a clean energy future could come. It’s a movement grounded in the streets and reaching for the photovoltaic rooftops, and its thinking can be easily summarised in a mantra: Fossil freeze. Solar thaw. Keep it in the ground.

Triumph is not certain – in fact, as the steadily rising toll of floods and droughts and melting glaciers makes clear, major losses are guaranteed. But for the first time in the quarter-century since global warming became a major public issue the advantage in this struggle has begun to tilt away from the Exxons and the BPs and towards the ragtag and spread-out fossil fuel resistance, which is led by indigenous people, young people, people breathing the impossible air in front-line communities. The fight won’t wait for Paris – the fight is on every day, and on every continent.




http://www.reddit.com/r/climate 10,184 readers? That's all?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ 158,007 readers

Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.  (Read 97891 times)!!!!!!


 Cheesy Grin Cheesy



Right.  And I suspect if you go back and look (lol, I am too lazy) you'll find that before the Perverted Liberal Authoritarian Controllers took over the climate forum, back when there was controversy and differing opinions, there was a far higher reader count.

That's the way it is.  Most people don't care about the hysterical alarmist climate nonsense and never have.  Look, it's a total turn off.

How many people here wouldn't walk off, if you were at a gathering/party/event and someone in the little group started talking about the Global Warming?  It's something of a bullshit, disgusting subject.  Even joking about Al Gore is disgusting.


Maybe I should ask the r/climate mods what the readership was like, 5 years ago. Hmm. Maybe not...




Hey ... this is serious stuff dude.  You shouldn't be joking about the Earth in the Balance.  Because the planet's on Fire.  Because even though the timescale keeps shifting, we are on a sliding timeframe to Doom.  And they are coming, bet your boots on it.

Global Warming Blamed for Future UFO Attacks

http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2011/08/19/global-warming-blamed-future-ufo-attacks

Are the alarmists so scientifically bankrupt that they have to promote UFO scares to support their “boy who cried wolf” global warming scares?

According to the Guardian: “Watching from afar, extraterrestrial beings might view changes in Earth's atmosphere as symptomatic of a civilization growing out of control – and take drastic action to keep us from becoming a more serious threat, the researchers explain.”

So, who are the “scientists” making such claims? They must be some rogue crazies who believe the earth is flat and the moon landing was staged on a vacant movie lot in Arizona, right? Well, according to the Guardian the scientists are affiliated with NASA and Penn State University. Yes, our tax dollars at work.

“`Green’ aliens might object to the environmental damage humans have caused on Earth and wipe us out to save the planet,” the Guardian reports.

"These scenarios give us reason to limit our growth and reduce our impact on global ecosystems. It would be particularly important for us to limit our emissions of greenhouse gases, since atmospheric composition can be observed from other planets," the authors write in the study.
12034  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 21, 2015, 06:33:02 PM
=snip=
People named Mohamed debating you should also be embarrassed.   Mohamed: it's as if you are debating a chicken, a cow, and a duck.   What's the point?   You can't change somebody's nature by debating him.  

You might be right but I ain't debating with them, I am trying to help them to realize the misconceptions or blatant lies which they thought was true. Smiley

Edit: Even a chicken, a cow, and a duck can be guided among their way using our words and hands. Here, I am doing the same*.

* I ain't telling anybody here is a chicken, a cow, and/or a duck.

Haha, good luck with that.  Sometimes words can be used to reveal truth, realize misconceptions etc.   But only if that's what people are seeking to do (listen and learn).   That's a rare attitude, especially for internet forums!  lol

Is that the attitude of an ignorant racist though?  I think if it was, they wouldn't be so ignorant or racist to begin with.  Imagine black people trying to change the ways of kkk type racists through discussion?  How many open minded racists like that do you know?  :p
Who needs racism when you have advice like this from muslim clerics?

1.Is swimmming allowed in the same pool where non-muslims swim even if no-one is in the pool?As they do not do istinjaa,would the water be najs?

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh

If the size of the public pool is more than 225 sq ft (20.9 m2) then it is considered a large body of water and will not become impure by non-Muslims swimming in it.

If the pool is less then 225 sq ft (20.9 m2), then if the non-Muslim had taken a bath before swimming, the water will be pure since there is no impurity on him.  If he did not take a bath before swimming and it is certain that there was impurity on him before he swam, then the pool is impure and all the water must be removed and refilled with clean water.  If the non-Muslim did not take a bath before swimming and one is unsure whether there was impurity on him or not, then it is better to abstain from such a pool until it is purified.

One should try to refrain from public swimming pools since there are usually occupied with women in immodest outfits.  Even the men usually wear outfits in which their satr is visible.


http://www.askimam.org/public/question_detail/15667

BY CONTRAST HERE IN THE USA, pools have been free for all races and ethnicities since the mid 1960s.  There's an interesting history on that.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=90213675

racial segregation at pools in the North arose during the 1920s and 1930s, at the precise time that cities started to gender-segregate pools. And so in case after case after case, racial segregation occurred at the exact moment that gender integration occurred.

And the concern was the black Americans, black men, would take advantage of the pool environment, to brush up against white women, to touch them in the water, to visually consume them, as they were wearing, you know, relatively-tight-fitting, relatively-revealing swimsuits. And this sort of played into a psychology of needing to separate black men from white women.

MARTIN: So when desegregation happened, '40s and '50s, they were - swimming pools were integrated, then you write about what was called "white flight," essentially, from municipal pools. People started - white people started building their own private pools or individual, in family homes, even. Can you talk about the legacy of that phenomenon?
12035  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 21, 2015, 06:26:00 PM
=snip=
People named Mohamed debating you should also be embarrassed.   Mohamed: it's as if you are debating a chicken, a cow, and a duck.   What's the point?   You can't change somebody's nature by debating him.  

You might be right but I ain't debating with them, I am trying to help them to realize the misconceptions or blatant lies which they thought was true. Smiley

Edit: Even a chicken, a cow, and a duck can be guided among their way using our words and hands. Here, I am doing the same*.

* I ain't telling anybody here is a chicken, a cow, and/or a duck.

I also seek to help them realize misconceptions and blatant lies which they thought was true.

Here is the latest atrocities from "the religion of peace."


2015.03.20 (Damasak, Nigeria) - At least seventy dumped bodies are discovered after a town is recaptured from Boko Haram.
2015.03.20 (Hassakeh, Syria) - Thirty-five Kurds celebrating their New Year are turned into paste by a suicide bomber.
2015.03.20 (Sanaa, Yemen) - A large number of children are among one-hundred and forty innocents eliminated by Sunni suicide bombers as they worshipped at two Shiite mosques.
2015.03.20 (Kathua, India) - Radical Muslims storm a police station and murder four people.
2015.03.19 (Giza, Egypt) - Two people go up in flames when suspected Ansar Beit Al Maqdis firebomb a youth center.
2015.03.18 (Shirqat, Iraq) - A man and his wife are executed by the caliphate for her not wearing a veil.
12036  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 21, 2015, 04:11:24 PM
This is a general statement to several of you uninformed people:

Wouldn't it be more fruitful to study with an open mind, learn a thing or two about the facts and truth of the matters you insist on discussing, and THEN opine about it?

I hope you realize how American y'all look when you write paragraphs of opinions that are based on various mistaken presumptions, mal-formed ideas, and just basic ignorant racism!

Wouldn't it be better to study and learn, and thus know a thing or two about what you are talking about?

It's very American to feel entitled to express an uninformed opinion - or two.....thousand.   It's even more American to have absolutely no shame or embarrassment for being tragically wrong about so many things!

Your always discussing you're delusional fantasies that have been installed in you by Hollywood.   So you are wrong about everything that Hollywood is wrong about.  Including your perverted support for the most brutal regimes on the planet: Saudi Arabia and Israel.

Fact: Iran's Ayatollah has prohibited weapons of mass destruction (after they were attacked by the US agent Saddam Hussein, with the chemical weapons your countries.  Later they explicitly announced a fatwah against nuclear weapons, and have stated that countries who pursue and own nukes (your country) are "politically retarded".   None of the 17 or so US intelligence agencies, nor the Israeli ones, believe in the propaganda that Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, or that they are close to it.    Those are lies only uninformed morons believe...

Seriously - why don't you people have a sense of shame or embarrassment for being so terribly wrong about basic facts?   Your ignorant racism is showing.   Too much TV!



Haha.  You know, TV is one of the export products of the USA.  You will find our TV shows and movies everywhere in the world. 

But we have a monopoly on stupid people?

Sure...buddy.  And Mohammed split the Moon apart.  (NOT)
12037  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers. on: March 21, 2015, 04:02:31 PM

What on earth would incline you to think that "deniers" were not reading the research?  I don't know of any that haven't.

Spend some time listening to what mainstream people, and especially those who tend to be left-leaning are exposed to, and what those who take enough of an interest to follow the links to the various 'skeptical about skeptics' blogs.  It's hard not to find a paragraph which does not hammer home the idea that 'deniers' are wholly ignorant and uninterested in the 'science' and 'facts' and so on.  At least in the opening and closing frames.  As bad as it is in the climate change realm it's 10 times worse in the world of vaccine and GMO skepticism, but there is a certain signature which is hard not to notice.

Given the uniformity of this message and mode of delivery, I would be very surprised if it were not a fairly well thought out and coordinated approach to certain of the PR issues.  That may be a little conspiratorial, and similar things might legitimately be suspected of the 'denier' side I suppose, but I would not be at all surprised to find out that it is quite true in some cases.  To the best of my knowledge the 'warmist' have been caught red-handed doing some ugly things (Connolley/wikipedia, climategate, etc) while this is not the case so much with the 'deniers.'  I'll gladly evaluate any evidence of propaganda campaigns pinned to the 'denier' side.  At this point I find the 'deniers' more credible but I don't want to be chumped by anybody.


Well, here's the pitch from the reddit subform on climate.  

http://www.reddit.com/r/climate/top/

Interestingly, in this thread the Reddit forum has been defended multiple times along the lines of "Yeah, but if you are discussing science, you can't have those deniers coming in with all their political arguments.  They'll ruin a calm discussion of science."

You know what?

I'm not seeing a great deal of "science" in the propaganda repository called the reddit climate forum.  I'm seeing pro warmer propaganda with no intelligent debate ALLOWED.


 The good news is, that pressure is growing. In fact, that relentless climate movement is starting to win big, unprecedented victories around the world, victories which are quickly reshaping the consensus view – including among investors – about how fast a clean energy future could come. It’s a movement grounded in the streets and reaching for the photovoltaic rooftops, and its thinking can be easily summarised in a mantra: Fossil freeze. Solar thaw. Keep it in the ground.

Triumph is not certain – in fact, as the steadily rising toll of floods and droughts and melting glaciers makes clear, major losses are guaranteed. But for the first time in the quarter-century since global warming became a major public issue the advantage in this struggle has begun to tilt away from the Exxons and the BPs and towards the ragtag and spread-out fossil fuel resistance, which is led by indigenous people, young people, people breathing the impossible air in front-line communities. The fight won’t wait for Paris – the fight is on every day, and on every continent.




http://www.reddit.com/r/climate 10,184 readers? That's all?

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/ 158,007 readers

Reddit’s science forum banned climate deniers.  (Read 97891 times)!!!!!!


 Cheesy Grin Cheesy



Right.  And I suspect if you go back and look (lol, I am too lazy) you'll find that before the Perverted Liberal Authoritarian Controllers took over the climate forum, back when there was controversy and differing opinions, there was a far higher reader count.

That's the way it is.  Most people don't care about the hysterical alarmist climate nonsense and never have.  Look, it's a total turn off.

How many people here wouldn't walk off, if you were at a gathering/party/event and someone in the little group started talking about the Global Warming?  It's something of a bullshit, disgusting subject.  Even joking about Al Gore is disgusting.

On another level, that of human cognition, it's a quite interesting subject.  Humans seek to organize data and reduce it to simplicity.  We do that compulsively.  At this level, we can look at Warmers as seeing a rising trend line in temperatures in a chaotic system, and believing it will continue indefinitely into the future.  They predict essentially a linear slope of a phenomena based on that slope existing for a couple decades.  Then they ignore that slope not existing for two decades.  Such is the power of belief.

It's been mentioned here before, but yes, we do need to save the planet.  Man needs to prepare for various future possibilities - a supervolcano eruption, pandemics, large meteor strikes, global cooling, global warming on and on.

Focusing on just one of the Bad Futures is very, very stupid.
12038  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 21, 2015, 03:52:15 PM
Do you? No! I will try to explain.

• In Islam there is no fixed age for marriage...

You removed important part from it. Without it, that statement is wrong. It is out of context, my friend!

We disagree on many things,

It is because of lack of explanation and I am sorry for that.

but it is unfair and simply wrong to say either that the word "rape" applies to the young girl that Mohammed married.

Thank you. Atleast you agreed it not good.

In Texas, if I recall correctly, a girl may be married with her parents consent at age 14.  It may be lower in other places.  

Thank you! That was the one I was looking for! AFAIK I think that is the lowest. Smiley

A thousand years ago, life was short, brutal, and harsh.  We cannot be applying today's modern rules to those times.

I disagree. Life period becomes shorter when we go forward not backward. You can easily check it.

At the same time, in many cases, Islam cannot apply thousand year old rules to today's times.

This is also because of the lacking explanation. Islam has told to follow the country's rule except the rules which break Islamic rules. For example, eating pork, not praying etc... You should follow country's rule. For example, in India, some bodies need postmortem to be done but in Islamic rule, harming our bodies especially after the death is wrong but following it isn't problem | In India, we need to be atleast 18 years old to marry but in Islamic rule, reaching puberty is enough. As it is illegal to marry a person under 18 years old even if he/she reaches puberty, we should follow it.

TL;DR: Islam said to follow country's laws unless it breaks Islam.

* Country here refers to the country you live in.
I may have erred in snipping your post, if so I apologize.  With respect to lifespan, here is what I mean.

http://www.sarahwoodbury.com/life-expectancy-in-the-middle-ages/

http://www.wonderquest.com/LifeSpan.htm states:  “Anglo-Saxons back in the Early Middle Ages (400 to 1000 A.D.) lived short lives and were buried in cemeteries, much like Englishmen today. Field workers unearthed 65 burials (400 to 1000 A.D.) from Anglo-Saxon cemeteries in England and found none who lived past 45.

Kings did better. The mean life expectancy of kings of Scotland and England, reigning from 1000 A.D. to 1600 A.D. were 51 and 48 years, respectively. Their monks did not fare as well. In the Carmelite Abbey, only five percent survived past 45.”


I think that if people today only lived until their 40s, they certainly would start marrying earlier and having babies younger.  There are still parts of the world where this is true, although perhaps fewer each year. 

Medically 12 years is too young to have babies, but that's a bit of a side issue.  Long ago, marriages were often arranged years in advance.  I just think that if one wishes to criticize Islam or Mohammed, there are so many valid points to do it on that alleging "rape" in the case of 12 year old marrying is neither right, nor a good choice for criticism.
12039  Other / Politics & Society / Re: zerohedge: The Planned Obsolescence of America on: March 21, 2015, 03:42:46 PM
I disagree somewhat with the premise. Technological obsolescence is inevitable, it is not planned. It is the result of competition and the profit motive, and the constant innovation is good. No one forces anyone to upgrade their devices; to the extent there is any "pressure" to do so, it is self-inflicted by a vanity driven populace. This contrasts to the other type of obsolescence, of the manufacturing kind. Perhaps there is something there. <snip>

While technological advances do tend to make things become obsolete, there is in fact a real trend practiced by industry to purposefully create products that are designed to fail. Please watch this great documentary on planned obsolescence. (It goes far beyond just light bulbs as the title may suggest.)
the light bulb conspiracy | planned obsolescence

Your assumption that consumers' vanity driven needs are self-inflicted is the result of carefully crafted illusions and conditioning. I highly recommend you watch another fantastic documentary called 'Century of the Self'. Yes it is quite long, but I consider it absolutely essential viewing to understand how and why government and industry masterfully manipulate the masses using psychological techniques mostly pioneered by Edward Bernays.
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This series is about how those in power have used Freud's theories to try and control the dangerous crowd in an age of mass democracy. Sigmund Freud, the founder of psychoanalysis, changed the perception of the human mind and its workings profoundly.

His influence on the 20th century is widely regarded as massive. The documentary describes the impact of Freud's theories on the perception of the human mind, and the ways public relations agencies and politicians have used this during the last 100 years for their engineering of consent. Among the main characters are Freud himself and his nephew Edward Bernays, who was the first to use psychological techniques in advertising. He is often seen as the father of the public relations industry.

The Century of the Self - Part 1 - Happiness Machines
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Part one documents the story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward Bernays who invented Public Relations in the 1920s, being the first person to take Freud's ideas to manipulate the masses.
The Century of the Self - Part 2 - The Engineering of Consent
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Part two explores how those in power in post-war America used Freud's ideas about the unconscious mind to try and control the masses. Politicians and planners came to believe Freud's underlying premise that deep within all human beings were dangerous and irrational desires.
The Century of the Self - Part 3 - There is a Policeman Inside All of Our Heads, He Must Be Destroyed
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In the 1960s, a radical group of psychotherapists challenged the influence of Freudian ideas, which lead to the creation of a new political movement that sought to create new people, free of the psychological conformity that had been implanted in people's minds by business and politics.
The Century of the Self - Part 4 - Eight People Sipping Wine In Kettering
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This episode explains how politicians turned to the same techniques used by business in order to read and manipulate the inner desires of the masses. Both New Labor with Tony Blair and the Democrats led by Bill Clinton, used the focus group which had been invented by psychoanalysts in order to regain power.



Easer to just read Noam Chomsky or listen to him on Youtube.
12040  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: March 21, 2015, 03:21:33 PM
Thing is that you have no idea if she were through puberty

Do you? No! I will try to explain.

• In Islam there is no fixed age for marriage...
We disagree on many things, but it is unfair and simply wrong to say either that the word "rape" applies to the young girl that Mohammed married.

In Texas, if I recall correctly, a girl may be married with her parents consent at age 14.  It may be lower in other places. 

A thousand years ago, life was short, brutal, and harsh.  We cannot be applying today's modern rules to those times.

At the same time, in many cases, Islam cannot apply thousand year old rules to today's times.
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