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12041  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 19, 2014, 03:03:10 PM
My concern with Monero is that optimized miner was always closed-source until a week in production. It happened each time the optimization takes place.

There was no closed source release of anything from the Monero project. It has all been released on github, when practical with accompanying Windows, Mac and Linux binaries. We can't control what everyone else does, but we have certainly encouraged optimized miner developers to share them, in one case offering a bounty (though it turned out not to be necessary as we independently developed comparable optimizations).

We're released two rounds of miner optimizations in open source, improving on the original bytecoin miner by approximately 10x (hardware dependent).




12042  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 19, 2014, 02:59:13 PM


The issue involved someone, apparently in Russia (Russian language forum site), who discovered that the bytecoin miner (subsequently cloned to MRO) had apparently been de-optimized prior to public release and could be made several times faster with relatively simple changes. It was one of the MRO developers (NoodleDoodle) who promptly released an un-deoptmized miner (subsequently back ported to bytecoin), and later released additional optimizations.

You won't find a more fair launch of any coin no will you find team behind a coin with more integrity than the Monero team in my opinion (though as a minor disclaimer, I don't know all of them outside of our work on Monero -- the work on Monero has been 100% above board and community-focused).



What is the reason that the bytecoin miner had been de-optimized prior to public release?

Ask the bytecoin developers. Oh wait, they're hiding somewhere.

We can't prove this 100%, but several highly qualified programmers (including at least one not associated in any way with the Monero project) have looked at the code and found it difficult to accept any other explanation. Draw your own conclusions.

12043  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 19, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
And after Monero was supposedly instamined they switched to Quazarcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600658.0

And the story goes on and on and on, just like with hundreds of forks.

This is not an official announcement, the coin existed prior to March when DStrange started this topic. The coins were mined in almost already 2 years.

Where does your information on pre-mine of Monero come from? Please cite a source.

Not sure where his source is, this is my calculation:

Monero block height is 46,000 with 1 min blocks.

46,000 min / hours / days = 32 days.

Not sure how much of a pre-mine that is, the coin has been out for 3 weeks.

The coin launched on April 18, so 32 days is almost exactly on the nose.

There was a public announcement a week before.

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Look at Bytecoin though, they have been out in the clear for 9 weeks yet have over 1.8 years worth of blocks.
12044  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BCN] Bytecoin (CPU-mining, true anonymity) on: May 19, 2014, 02:37:07 PM
And after Monero was supposedly instamined they switched to Quazarcoin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600658.0

And the story goes on and on and on, just like with hundreds of forks.

This is not an official announcement, the coin existed prior to March when DStrange started this topic. The coins were mined in almost already 2 years.

Where does your information on pre-mine of Monero come from? Please cite a source.

There is no source. There was no premine or instamine.

The issue involved someone, apparently in Russia (Russian language forum site), who discovered that the bytecoin miner (subsequently cloned to MRO) had apparently been de-optimized prior to public release and could be made several times faster with relatively simple changes. It was one of the MRO developers (NoodleDoodle) who promptly released an un-deoptmized miner (subsequently back ported to bytecoin), and later released additional optimizations.

You won't find a more fair launch of any coin no will you find team behind a coin with more integrity than the Monero team in my opinion (though as a minor disclaimer, I don't know all of them outside of our work on Monero -- the work on Monero has been 100% above board and community-focused).

12045  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 02:31:58 PM
Hey guys,

You all probably know that I've released a SoloMiner a few days back. (if someone didn't know about it - here is the link)

I was wondering if bounty on open-source GUI miner is still on the table since SoloMiner pretty much covers it.

Cheers.

I don't remember there being a bounty for a GUI miner, although maybe there was. Perhaps you are thinking of the GUI wallet bounty?

12046  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 02:24:26 PM
Is it best to solo mine or, if not, which is a reliable pool?

I recommend solo mining at this point. None of the pools are that reliable.

Solo mining provides the maximum value to the network by running a node and decentralizing control away from pools (even if other people do use them). Solo miners are the true heros of any coin.

The down side is that you need to be extremely patient and not have unrealistic expectations of getting coins on a consistent basis (or with a low hash rate, ever). If you view it as providing a service to the network and look at any coins you do get as nice prize or bonus, you will enjoy solo mining. If you check every 15 minutes to see if you got some coins, you will find solo mining very frustrating.




Hash Rate: 625.74 H/sec <<< Any luck with me if solo at this time? Thanks!

That is a pretty decent hash rate. The whole network is around 800k so you have almost 1/1000 of it. There are an average of 1440 blocks per day so you should be getting an average of a block per day with solo mining. Of course some days will be zero, some will be multiples.
12047  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [QCN] OTC exchange and trading thread for QuazarCoin on: May 19, 2014, 02:22:36 PM
Please remove my offer for now. 
12048  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 02:11:38 PM
Is it best to solo mine or, if not, which is a reliable pool?

I recommend solo mining at this point. None of the pools are that reliable.

Solo mining provides the maximum value to the network by running a node and decentralizing control away from pools (even if other people do use them). Solo miners are the true heros of any coin.

The down side is that you need to be extremely patient and not have unrealistic expectations of getting coins on a consistent basis (or with a low hash rate, ever). If you view it as providing a service to the network and look at any coins you do get as nice prize or bonus, you will enjoy solo mining. If you check every 15 minutes to see if you got some coins, you will find solo mining very frustrating.



12049  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:43:52 PM
is ti even possible to solomine at 40h/s ? expectations?

Yes it is possible. You are playing lottery. Nothing wrong with that. You won't get consistent coins, but you have the same fair chance of getting a block as anyone else relative to your hash rate. Which is to say you have 1/10 the chance of someone with 400. If you are patient and don't have unrealistic expectations there is nothing wrong with solo mining.


12050  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:41:31 PM
I was wondering if this coin is a good buy, but I saw that this coin traded for 80% less than yesterday, why did it go down so much?

Your chart is upside down?


https://poloniex.com/exchange/btc_mro

I have no idea what you are looking at. This coin was trading below 0.001 yesterday. When it first started trading at poloniex it was a bit over 0.001, now (as I write this) it is over 0.002. Of course there are ups and downs, but this coin as a long and exciting future ahead of it. Of that you can be certain.

12051  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:34:51 PM
I was wondering if this coin is a good buy, but I saw that this coin traded for 80% less than yesterday, why did it go down so much?

Your chart is upside down?

12052  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:13:42 PM
I sold all my MROs in the yesterdays dumps Sad. I don't have any at the moment - very silly. I hope I'll solo mine a block. Someone willing to send me 1? Thank you.

MRO:
Code:
4AyRmUcxzefB5quumzK3HNE4zmCiGc8vhG6fE1oJpGVyVZF7fvDgSpt3MzgLfQ6Q1719xQhmfkM9Z2uNXgDMqYhjJVmc6KX 

I take care of my old friends
12053  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:02:09 PM
is bitmonero and Monero same? i had mined bitmonero on release day. can i migrate to new one?

Bitmonero was the original name. Monero is the new name. Same coins.

12054  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 01:01:40 PM
Can anyone explain me why would anyone invest in this currency instead of Darkcoin, Zerocash, Anoncoin, Fantomcoin or Quazarcoin??
Darkcoin is going to implement bytecoin's technology afaik so..

from your post history likes like you have a preference for dark coin.
please review the op and much of your questions will be easily answered.
basically different techology. not a bitcoin clone.

Yes, I know, but Monero is a Bytecoin clone. Thats my worry. Why invest in Monero when it depends on Bytecoin's devs basically.

Take a look at the githubs. Monero devs are doing a more useful work now than the bytecoin devs are. It was the Monero devs who sped up mining by a factor of 10 and have made other important fixes.

The Monero community is now larger and more active than the Bytecoin community. That will continue to attract and motivate great developers to work on this project.

It was was the Monero community that put together the bounty for an open source pool and open source miner. We also have a prototype GIU wallet. Bytecoin never did that.

Nobody even knows who the bytecoin devs are. For all we know they are busy cashing out their 140 billion premined bytecoins and have essentially abandoned the project, or just keeping up the pretense of working on it to support the price while they cash out. Monero has no premine. No one is cashing out. The only way the developers get anything out of this project is to build it along with the community.

Do not judge Monero on the basis of comparison with Bytecoin. Judge it on what we have accomplished and continue to accomplish.

It is certainly false that we are dependant on the bytecoin developers. If we were, I'd be very worried. Fortunately we are not.

12055  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [CLOSED] MRO Monero trading thread and OTC xchg on: May 19, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
The OTC exchange is now closed

If you have escrowed coins, please contact me to redeem them. I will eventually track you down in any case

Congratulations to all early participants. Your efforts have now taken MRO to the next level where it is being traded on multiple web exchanges.

I am still available to escrow on a case-by-case basis.
12056  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 07:17:02 AM
OK, so I'm running bitmonerod and simplewallet. I want to test if it's all good. Can someone please send some MRO dust to - 4545XEEcGqmMR73Xo3XfT32CC2wrskTykC1uNk136cNKEXJ7kBTicbU3vkTpMGH8GKY6DykQrQPMxTM 5pdWrQ7bW3Aq8swA. Cheers.

Sent
12057  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 07:15:17 AM
I want to transfer some MRO from cryptonote.exchange to Poloniex.
Seem's I have to transer MRO to my wallet and after than transer it to poloniex
It's Complex

I'm hopeful that over time the exchanges will just switch to the usual method of generating a deposit address for each customer. The current method is a pain and is putting unencrypted payment IDs into the block chain, potentially compromising privacy. I think they are doing it the way they are because the wallet APIs for Monero are currently very rough, but that will improve over time.

Shorter term, the exchanges may provide a method to give a payment ID for withdrawals, which would allow direct transfers.

For now, yes you need to need to send to your own wallet first.




I think this is something the wallet needs to implement. As far as I can see, the only way to do this now would be to have separate wallet files for each deposit address, which is insane.

Exactly, as I said above (in bold now).
12058  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 06:48:07 AM
I want to transfer some MRO from cryptonote.exchange to Poloniex.
Seem's I have to transer MRO to my wallet and after than transer it to poloniex
It's Complex

I'm hopeful that over time the exchanges will just switch to the usual method of generating a deposit address for each customer. The current method is a pain and is putting unencrypted payment IDs into the block chain, potentially compromising privacy. I think they are doing it the way they are because the wallet APIs for Monero are currently very rough, but that will improve over time.

Shorter term, the exchanges may provide a method to give a payment ID for withdrawals, which would allow direct transfers.

For now, yes you need to need to send to your own wallet first.


12059  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [QCN] OTC exchange and trading thread for QuazarCoin on: May 19, 2014, 05:30:14 AM
selling 400 for 0.03 btc you send first

500 for 0.03 btc

800 for 0.03 btc

To the moon.

Special discount

ONE THOUSAND QCNs!!!!

only 0.03 BTC.

Limited time offer.


I will buy..i can send first

That is way old

I do have an offer up now though. See the first post
12060  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][MRO] Monero - Anonymous Currency Based on Ring Signatures on: May 19, 2014, 04:18:46 AM
Extremepool.org will be switching to a 2% fee to cover things like TX fee's and other Misc. Fees.
I have chatted with several miners and all agree this is not a problem.  

This change will be implemented in a few hours.



Kind of short notice, but I don't think many people will take issue with it - if any at all.
I can wait longer if it will make everyone happy.


I'd suggest 24 hours, to at least give people in every time zone a chance to see it.
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