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12041  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin-Central, first exchange licensed to operate as a bank. This is HUGE on: December 08, 2012, 03:28:57 AM
Integrate, integrate, integrate, and Bitcoin will succeed, because it is superior.

If I wanted to go out to dinner, or needed to go to the store for some groceries, where can I go that will accept this superior currencies debit card?

Anywhere debit cards are accepted.

But way to come out swinging before you understand what is being discussed.

But I'm still ultimately paying in cash. The bitcoins are just converted into real money by this bank. I've added this bitcoin middleman because...

It's a better store of value than fiat.

Is that why it is effectively backed by fiat?  Or why the only community to really embrace it is absolutely plagued by scams and baffling incompetence?

Back to the initial point, isn't part of the entire mythos of bitcoin getting away from federal regulation and banks?  If you are just going to have your bitcoins processed through a bank that then converts them to fiat money, you are just taking a worthless middle step.  

You're still paying in fiat money, this is not a win for bitcoin, just a confirmation that for anyone to take it seriously, you have to back it with the very fiat money you are trying to overthrow.
JESUS FUCKING ChrIst someone talking sense.

With all due respect, Rob, if Bitcoin were a closed system, then you wouldn't have penned the following:

Hi My name is rob i'm from amsterdam holland i've been follwing bitcoin for about 3 or for day just looking at different things wondering what it is all about i'm in it for supporting an alternative currency that could possibly save the planet as we know it . . i think we need a free currency that is decentralized cannot be manipulated by governments or so called elites to bring countries and people to its knees and to financially  enslave them. . that's what i am in it for if i can make money at the same time then it's just win win ( not that im not already doing other things beside employing bit coin ) . . an investmend advice i once read was " invest in something that you love and you'll never lose. . i love this planet and it's people and the many freedoms that still we do have . . yeh i mean that  .. because in relation to if and when . . the world bankers do fully take over ,  what we still have now, would be paradise,  compared to that. .

As max keizer said  .. this is the currency of the resistance . . I'm not in it for illegal activity i'm in it for the financial freedom on this planet and freedom from financial slavery. . and take the power away from the financial psychotic criminals in charge today .. .. I see bitcoin as the good for all humanity i think this should be our main focus and should be our main purpose ..

Don't get me wrong, I do respect your stance, but we can't have it both ways--an open and closed system.

Currently, I applaud Dave.

~Bruno K~
12042  Other / Off-topic / Re: Break the WWII pigeon code for bitcoin on: December 08, 2012, 12:35:29 AM
Did anybody notice that this message was sent twice? (see lower right of image)

Check out this link: http://www.ciphermysteries.com/2012/11/24/dead-ww2-cipher-pigeon-timeline

12043  Other / Off-topic / Re: Butterfly Labs is going to give lifetime warranty on: December 08, 2012, 12:15:58 AM
Well, probably because electronics are only truly useful for a short period of time, then people would purposefully break them to get a newer/better model. 
People already routinely do that, where they "accidentally drop" a friends smartphone, then ask their insurance to pay for that friends new phone.
Do you know how many phones I've returned just because I borked it up while messing around with the software? One time a busybox update got screwed up, and I just returned it for a new one rather than messing around with it. I love Radio Shack warranties.

Craftsman tools also come to mind.
12044  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Certification Requirements? on: December 08, 2012, 12:09:00 AM
I just finished scanning again the FCC site, this time doing the rest of the N/A states (other countries/pass 6 months) and still didn't find a single item resembling a mining rig from any of the four ASIC concerns, but I did get to view a many neat products.

~Bruno K~


Why are you looking for ASICs on FCC's site?

Actually, I was mainly looking at the images, doing a process of elimination that way, but when an image had potential of being a rig, I read the specs. Roger's Labs in Kansas was the only outfit that had a product closely resembling a rig/board, but it wasn't.

Therefore, to date, not a single one of the four outfits have submitted any devices to be tested.

~Bruno K~
12045  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] on: December 08, 2012, 12:03:42 AM
I was wondering about that reply. BFL has more exeperience creating ASIC devices? I call BS. Smiley

Maybe they're referring to hiring someone, either as an employee or a contractor, who has experience making ASICs.
I think that's exactly what they are referring to.

It is common for companies to refer to themselves as having "51 years of combined experience" in such and such a field.  I think when BFL claims to be experienced in creating ASICs, they mean that their engineers have designed ASICs in the past, and thus have experience in designing ASICs.

Bruno's Barn Wood & Beams has 2,783 years experience in building primitive barn wood furniture here in the US alone.

The way I did the math is add up all the years of experience of all the furniture makers I provide lumber for and voilà. I may be off by a decade or two, but you get the idea.
12046  Other / Off-topic / Re: [POLL] How often do you show/hide persons on your ignore list? on: December 07, 2012, 11:42:14 PM
I've never ignored anybody. I do have a theory that some people may put others on ignore with their sockpuppets that have a 100+ post count just to... Not sure why, but it's probably different for different people.

~Bruno K~
12047  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone do metal detecting? on: December 07, 2012, 05:51:09 PM

wow. So you can basically earn thousands by just spending a day clearing a barn out. Where would 1 go to sell the stuff i find? For example those doors, who would you sell them 2?

Okay! Okay! I'll tell you! Now please quit twisting my arm.  -- CRAIGSLIST --
12048  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone do metal detecting? on: December 07, 2012, 05:48:36 PM
Rumor has it that one of the metal detector companies is accepting pre-orders for their new model due to be released in a couple months: Minelab ASIC. It's suppose to double as a can of beans warmer.  Grin

Fake Edit: The release date has be put back and remains a little fuzzy now due to them having to reconfigure the mineral buffers.
12049  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone do metal detecting? on: December 07, 2012, 05:21:31 PM

Do you have to ask permission or anything? And dont worrk, theres quite a bit of distance between us. lol

Since I haven't found a way to steal the barns at night, I always ask permission. The success rate is about 20%, but of the 80% that say no, they sometimes give you a lead and maybe even come around later and say yes. Plus, when I go to the barns, I take an unfamiliar route in and a different route out, thus finding new prospects I wouldn't have found if I hadn't gone to where I was just declined via a direct and familiar route.

Here's the beauty of this business: sometimes the farmers pay you to take the gold off their property. How much gold? A full pickup load fetches over $3,000 USD no matter what size the lumber is. You'll also be surprised at what I get per a single 100+ year-old nail.

Now, I'm really going to get you excited. Let's assume your neck of the woods doesn't have many barns, but there's enough communities surrounding where you live that have a few abandoned homes built prior to WWII. Guess what those homes were constructed with. Correct! Wood. The same wood used to build barns. These homes are considered eye sores and the municipalities love to get them down but they're strapped for cash, and they'll entertain lower bids to accomplish the task.



How many of the doors above do you think are in an old home? Most of the time it's over a dozen. What do they sell for? $100 each sans the hardware which you sell separately. You'll recognize several thousand dollars before you even get to tearing down the ceilings, walls and floor from the other architectural elements found within. And guess what you'll find many a times behind the walls. The same things one finds metal detecting. Picture a kid in the attic dropping his old Buddy L cars down an opening just to hear them drop. That opening is located behind a wall on the lower floor(s).

Years ago when I lived in Tunica playing poker, a poker room manager related to me a story of this woman whose been doing just that with silver coins for decades. He knew where the house was but didn't tell me, but it's in Helena, Arkansas. I wonder how many coins would fit in a 2" X 24" (not 16" on center) X 8' cavity.

I hope this post wet your undies.

~Bruno K~
12050  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: December 07, 2012, 08:57:58 AM
12051  Other / Off-topic / Re: Let's Count to 21 Million with Images on: December 07, 2012, 08:53:26 AM
12052  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Certification Requirements? on: December 07, 2012, 08:40:49 AM
I just finished scanning again the FCC site, this time doing the rest of the N/A states (other countries/pass 6 months) and still didn't find a single item resembling a mining rig from any of the four ASIC concerns, but I did get to view a many neat products.

~Bruno K~
12053  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ASIC Certification Requirements? on: December 07, 2012, 08:20:04 AM
There are limitations on the colors of switches and lamps, i.e. no red LEDs (which indicate danger).

Danger Will Robinson!

The agency will attempt to set the unit on fire.

Cheesy

Give BFL some credit! There's no way they're going to put a red light of any nature on any of their products because green is the way to go.
12054  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin Wiki: Erik Voorhees operates the SatoshiDice DDoS attack against Bitcoin on: December 07, 2012, 08:14:33 AM
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(cur | prev) 18:30, 11 November 2012‎ Luke-jr (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (97 bytes) (+97)‎ . . (Created page with "* Operates the SatoshiDice DDoS attack against Bitcoin * Currently employed by BitInstant")

LMAO Erik was flying under the radar I am glad someone brought this to light LOL

Under the radar?

Bad joke is bad LMAO I meant he is under the radar with his DDOS of Bitcoins

We got u. Psy is the only one who didn't get it.  Grin

Or so you think...

Burro velho não aprende línguas.
12055  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone do metal detecting? on: December 07, 2012, 08:03:28 AM
Just wondering because I live in a pretty old town with a lot of woods and trails. Might find something nice. Anyone that does metal detecting as a hobby? Has anyone found any interesting that is worth some $$?

Beachcombing is where it's at: http://www.beachcombingconference.com/

Then again, I like hunting old barns. One day I'm goin' to come across one of these babies:



The best I ever did was seven vintage jukeboxes. (and an 1850's wagon last year)
how do you go about starting "barn hunting".

With Google maps. Find a barn with a whole in its roof and you're golden, but stay away from my territory--Northern Illinois--because I own the all the digging rights.
12056  Other / Off-topic / Re: Living in the Woods Somewhere on: December 07, 2012, 02:37:35 AM
http://www.countryplacesinc.com/index.php?/property/morning-glory-164.html

12057  Other / Off-topic / Re: Passwords and security on: December 07, 2012, 02:14:05 AM
And herein lies somebody's agenda?

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The only way forward is real identity verification: to allow our movements and metrics to be tracked in all sorts of ways and to have those movements and metrics tied to our actual identity. We are not going to retreat from the cloud—to bring our photos and email back onto our hard drives. We live there now. So we need a system that makes use of what the cloud already knows: who we are and who we talk to, where we go and what we do there, what we own and what we look like, what we say and how we sound, and maybe even what we think.

The above concerns me more than the single password word I've used with everything going on 4-5 years now. The home I live in remains unlocked since day one, the keys to all my vehicles are on their consoles, and two of my lumber warehouses are unlocked.

~Bruno K~
12058  Other / Off-topic / Re: Anyone do metal detecting? on: December 06, 2012, 11:54:22 PM
Just wondering because I live in a pretty old town with a lot of woods and trails. Might find something nice. Anyone that does metal detecting as a hobby? Has anyone found any interesting that is worth some $$?

Beachcombing is where it's at: http://www.beachcombingconference.com/

Then again, I like hunting old barns. One day I'm goin' to come across one of these babies:



The best I ever did was seven vintage jukeboxes. (and an 1850's wagon last year)
12059  Other / Off-topic / Re: Right-To-Left? on: December 06, 2012, 11:48:40 PM
I don't know about you, but I've wondered what would happen to the next person's post if it was quoted and it ended with a RTR Override.

Interesting!: http://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/09/right-to-left-override-aids-email-attacks/
12060  Other / Off-topic / Re: Living in the Woods Somewhere on: December 06, 2012, 05:40:08 PM
Is this the goal?: http://www.theminimalists.com/minimalism/

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Minimalism is a tool that can assist you in finding freedom. Freedom from fear. Freedom from worry. Freedom from overwhelm. Freedom from guilt. Freedom from depression. Freedom from the trappings of the consumer culture we’ve built our lives around. Real freedom.

http://www.treehugger.com/sustainable-product-design/how-to-build-a-tiny-off-grid-house-for-2500-video.html

Tiny home living is one of my passions I continue to explore. It works well with the the barn wood reclamation I do as a living.
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