while your math above is wrong for buy and hodl then sell . what is true is it is really hard to turn profit with cards or asics.  it is a job when you scale up to and beyond 50+ cards and 50+ asics.

Something always breaks and you need replacement gear.

People think we are having a bullrun mining ⛏ we are not.

We are close to what a miner should  make mining if they want a business.

Thomas Edison and his 800 hour light bulb strikes again.

BTW the ones in his office and home Lasted 50+ years.

Sideways it is.

3060ti is in.

an aorus 3060ti beautiful card.  One of the few times I felt guilty not gaming with a card.

Toying with it to see if I can get a stable 62mh

I can get a stable 61mh. which seems to be the better choice to shoot for with this card.

Yeah did that. 75%

thanks for info

I have settled at this  for smos

core+10     gives me 1425 reading seems stable
ram +2600 gives me 8100 reading seems stable
watts 125
hash 61.32mh

29 shares no rejects

I will run this for an hour or 2  may try 120 watts next

So I have the aorus 3060ti a card that is supposed to be a bit higher quality then the op's I suspect that I am just paying for a cool little programable lcd screen that most likely will only help me when I resell it. I also get a four year warranty with it.

So I have simple miner os.

I set

core + 10  which gives me a         1425 core
memory +2200 which gives me a 7900 memory
watts     125

I am getting 60.27 mhs

580 shares 0 rejects but that counts my 3080 and my 1660ti

179 of those shares are from the 3060ti 0 rejects running 1 hour and 5 minutes.

I will bump memory till I get rejects.

so 125 watts 0 rejects and 60.27 mh

when I drop to 115 watts card is like fuck you

I may be able to drop setting to 120 watts.
I just bumped card to

core set to +10      1425 core
ram set to  +2300  7950 ram
watts set to 125

hash 60.66  no rejects

decided to go higher

core set to +10       gives a 1425 core
ram set to +2800  gives a 8200 ram equals ops highest setting
watts set to 125

62.25 mh   so far no rejects  .  Since I am not sure of peak ram setting for this particular ram I will leave it be. at 8200

  getting 62.25 for 125 watt setting makes card a bit nicer then a good and 5700xt

Not a lot but it also has a 4 year warranty which is quite nice.

this rig has

1660ti
3060ti
3080

does 185mh and states in simple mining os it does 452 watts  at the meter it actuating does 412 watts which is really good for 185mh

did a hard reboot and the 3060ti is tossing rejects like mad so a 8200 ram is too high for my card. just like the op's


core+10     gives me 1425 reading seems stable
ram +2600 gives me 8100 reading seems stable
watts 125
hash 61.32mh

16 shares no rejects

So I got an aorus 3060ti

running on simple mining

core = 10
memory = 1800
watts = 130

it gives me 58mh

any clocking suggestions for it?

I asked the mods to move this to alt coin section

I will try to answer this for you in a minute or 2.



4gb cards suck  they won't do eth.

as for raven you are using 970's

not 1070's
not 2070's
not 3070's

so I used all of them and got them to work with raven

I use mostly simple mining  dot net

the newest os from them supports

NVIDIA 1050 / 1060 / 1070 / 1080 / P102 / P104 / P106 / 1650 / 1660 / 2060 / 2070 / 2080 / 3060 / 3070 / 3080 / 3090


all newer cards but he has all his old os for downloading

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1541084.0  ask him if he has an os that will let your cards mine raven

as did I mine btc with my my 6990

There are many tax advantages to mining.

including selling some coin in a good year and buying more gear.  Which lets you have a write off for that year.

or doing a long term hodl of the coins.

You can mine at a loss under usa law 5 out of 7 years.

So if you buy a 1000usd  gpu rig burn 500watts with it or 12kwatts a day or 360 kwatts a month at 14 cents that is 51 dollars in power so for a year it is 600 dollars

2 years is 1200 dollars and the 1000 for the gear = 2200 dollars and you never spend a coin. A lot of people can do this play for 2 years.

Then if shit gets hot you sell the rig and get the same 1000 back. and you laid out only 1200 for power to get the coins. If you have 4 coins after 2 years  and sell 2 at 600 each you have spent 0 usd  to get 2 eth coins.


the down side to this is the coins never go up and the rig goes worthless for mining and worth 300 to 400 for parts.

so after 2 years. you laid out the same 2200. but have a 400 in parts and 4 coins worth 100 bucks a piece. that nets to a 1400 loss.

I have 3x 3080's

today my 1 3060ti comes in

It is all I have in the 3000 series.

dont buy 4gb cards. 6gb should be good for next 18 months.

I am going to clifton farm on sunday. I will be bringing the 3 card 1660ti rig home.

even these are selling at a premium on ebay. cards I purchased for under 300 mined for a year are selling for 300 to 339 on ebay.

very soon a glut of 4gb cards will hit ebay.

avoid them. when I bring the 1660ti rig home I will post some photos of it here.

I could very likely sell that rig for 1000 usd maybe a little more on ebay

I usually sell gear here at a discount based on ebay prices.

If that rig could get 1000 on ebay. and if the buyer did not fuck me. I could clear 850 fees and shipping would make it be 150.

If I sold it for 900 here and paid 50 to ship it. I would clear the same 850. but I would ask less then 900.

and less then 850
and less then 800 which would be a bargain at current rates.  since cards alone on ebay cost more then 1000.

and they are sold out everywhere.

I get 95 at 220watts. for last few weeks very steady. I use simple miner.

It is funny you say this. It is very much like owning a few race horses.  Not betting on them which is gambling.

Owning a racehorse is very very very high risk business.

But if you get a good baby horse on the cheap and the horse wins a lot. you can make millions of dollars.

USA tax law gives a break for horse owners to be a business you need to have 2 winning years out of 7
A normal business in the USA needs 2 winning years out of 5.

The op is talking serious hodl of coin and laying out tons of out of pocket for gear and power to be able to hodl from Jan 2018 to 2020.

Many people can not do this. So they lose.

we have a few of us with them on hand I own 3 of these

EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 XC3 ULTRA GAMING, 10G-P5-3885-KR, 10GB GDDR6X, iCX3 Cooling, ARGB LED, Metal Backplate


https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3885-KR

Oem price is 769.99 it is a very good card.

What models of whatsminer do you have?

some have low power settings. that will do under 2000 watts.

if you have a 120 volt dedicated line at 15 amps it maxes at 1800 watts.

and that is not 24/7/365 rating.

if you want to run nonstop a 15 amp line derates to 12 amps

or 12 x 120 = 1440 watts.  tag a 4000 watt inverter and try to run a 10 amp 220 psu and you over heat every thing.

why is that?  10 x 220  = 2200 watts into the psu.

guess what the invertor tries to pull on that 120 volt line 2200 watts.

it may do it for an hour and then something fails.

most volt regulator are cheap garbage 🗑

so to stand a shot you need a 20amp 120 volt line. which does 16amps  x 120 = 1920 watts 24/7/365

and you need to be sure the psu is pulling under 2000 watts.

or hire an electrician and put in a 220 volt circuit = better choice.

NICE just in time for holiday shopping.

7 x 18 = 126K+

I have a working model 1 s-9 2 of 3 boards still mine I got it back in 2016 before the 1/2 ing.

I have a working Avalon 721 I got it back in feb 2016

Both were under clocked and never pushed hard or hot.

All 17 s17pros still work 1 psu needed replacement
17 x 53 = 901 th does 930 th as some work on turbo

my what's miner gear is meh.

20s has bad chips and only does 39th using a lot of power and it burns out psu's
m10 has 2 boards works okay on normal
m10 has 3 boards works okay on low
20s was great it got wet in a rainstorm now has 2 boards still great. the rainstorm killed multiple pieces of gear.
21s was doing only 2 boards at 29th it died in the rain storm.

so
2x 20s from may of 2019 1 was good 1 was meh and would kill psu's
1x 21s from august 2019 was 29th not 50th
2 m10s from dec 2018 five of six boards still work  doing 40th vs 60th

so if all was working they would be doing 250th they are doing 105th

my Avalon
2x 50th 1066 on works 1 has dead psu Avalon never got one for me blokforge never got on for me
3x 30th 1041. one was doa but 2 work fine not sure how the doa died I will blame me or the us post office not Avalon

so I will say 160th is now 110th

2 t17e
1 t17+
3 t17 all good

3 s15 all good needed 1 replacement psu
1 t15 all good

s9's and l3's have been a mix and match for so long I don't remember how to rate them in terms of how they last.

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merged some posts

this was Dec 13

We will be negative this jump

price is 19350+ at Coinbase

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This is Dec 14

Up date we dropped -2.541/b]% to 18.6701t

We are on pace to drop again

Also coins are at 19,200 these numbers are not as good as July 2019 from the mining profit viewpoint.


It is early but a -2% drop and pushing past 20k   would be a very nice ending for the shit year of 2020

on ebay hd 7790 sell for close to $100

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sapphire-Radeon-HD7790-1G-GDDR5-PCI-e-HDMI-DVD-D-DVI-I-Video-Card/223454911737?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-AMD-Radeon-HD-7790-1GB-GDDR5-PCI-Express-Graphics-Card-HD7790-DC2OC-1GD5/174392778170?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Gigabyte-HD7790-GDDR5-2GB-2xDVI-HDMI-DP-OC-Graphics-Cards-GV-R779OC-2GD-VIDEO/283920361709?

hd 6990 is 145

https://www.ebay.com/itm/AMD-RADEON-HD6990-4GB-GDDR5-DVI-4X-MINI-DP-PCI-EXPRESS-VIDEO-GRAPHICS-CARD-0J15H/143716143670?