There is positive value to having an account with positive trust that does not have to do with scamming. For example, with positive trust you generally will not need to pay any escrow fees, which can add up if you trade a lot. It negates the chances of either an escrow service scamming you or your trading partner scamming you because you generally can ask your trading partner to send money first to you.
Additionally if having positive trust were to create additional value to an account (it will as long as you can sell the account and it still has positive trust) then the owner has an incentive not to scam, as if they are caught trying to scam then they will lose the additional value their account has. If positive trust were to disappear when ownership of an account transfers then the owner of an account with a lot of positive trust may elect to attempt to scam someone instead of selling their account as the expected payoff may be higher.
I think you missed my point. Once it is sold for a good price, because of the status and positive trust, the account with unchanged value of trust may be, potentially, used for scamming (if executed properly, the scammer gets away with the chunky return and he/she doesn't care what happens with that account afterwards). That is what the whole discussion here is about. They would also have to risk their initial investment in order to pull off such scam. It is also not a guarantee that such a scam will be successful and if it is not then you will have lost 100% (or close to such amount) of your investment as your positive trust account will now have negative trust. Your argument also fails to take into consideration the fact that the previous owner would no longer have an incentive not to scam if their account has a large amount of positive trust if/when they are in need of money Sorry, it looks like you missed the point again. Please re-read my earlier posts again. The thesis is: the current trust rating system is not working, because it is ignoring the fact that accounts may be traded. Due to that fact, it is just a meaningless number. No, I understand your point, but it is invalid. |
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i wanna change the my name. Is this possible??
you cant currently change your username,its not possible you can only make a new account and start from the beggining This is not true. You can donate 50 BTC to the forum to become a VIP and you can change both your display name (which is what the OP wants to change) and create a custom title (among other features of having a VIP account). Although it would probably be best to simply create a new account considering how new the OP's account is. lol |
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Amount: .8
BTC: 1GM6bEdzJdZN535cwposfRoFfiqk1YgBQf
Collateral: I have an affiliate website.
Term length: 11 days
Interest: 8% {.064}
_I also have a good standing account on btcjam_
Denied. I have zero interest in an affiliate website |
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In the above case what is the difference between buying an account with positive trust and buying trust? AFAIK the latter is not allowed. Buying trust is receiving trust when a trade did not actually occur (e.g. a shell trade) while buying an account with positive trust is buying an account with a certain level of prestige. There is no forum rule against buying trust however most people (myself included) look down on such activity. If a transaction where an account with high positive trust (or default trust) is noticed the account should be tagged by a staff member and the account removed from default trust. No. This is not the job of the staff/forum administration. It negates the chances of either an escrow service scamming you or your trading partner scamming you because you generally can ask your trading partner to send money first to you.
Yes it negates the chance of you being scammed but allows you to freely scam others, especially if you bought the account. No. Because there is still a chance that your scam attempt is called out and when this happens your initial investment of the price of the account would go down the drain |
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There is positive value to having an account with positive trust that does not have to do with scamming. For example, with positive trust you generally will not need to pay any escrow fees, which can add up if you trade a lot. It negates the chances of either an escrow service scamming you or your trading partner scamming you because you generally can ask your trading partner to send money first to you.
Additionally if having positive trust were to create additional value to an account (it will as long as you can sell the account and it still has positive trust) then the owner has an incentive not to scam, as if they are caught trying to scam then they will lose the additional value their account has. If positive trust were to disappear when ownership of an account transfers then the owner of an account with a lot of positive trust may elect to attempt to scam someone instead of selling their account as the expected payoff may be higher.
I think you missed my point. Once it is sold for a good price, because of the status and positive trust, the account with unchanged value of trust may be, potentially, used for scamming (if executed properly, the scammer gets away with the chunky return and he/she doesn't care what happens with that account afterwards). That is what the whole discussion here is about. They would also have to risk their initial investment in order to pull off such scam. It is also not a guarantee that such a scam will be successful and if it is not then you will have lost 100% (or close to such amount) of your investment as your positive trust account will now have negative trust. Your argument also fails to take into consideration the fact that the previous owner would no longer have an incentive not to scam if their account has a large amount of positive trust if/when they are in need of money |
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I asked Quickseller if he would loan me the XPY and the reason I was asking for the 25 XPY, which is stated in the OP. He is the one that asked me to post here and he would act as the escrow. I was going to give 3 to the person that loans the 25 XPY and give Quickseller 2 and keep 5. Price has dropped 20% in the last 24 hours.
what i was asking is, how would an escrow help me to get my 25 xpy back is you plan to run? you arent providing any collateral isnt it? 3 is a good interest 12% if you can ask quickseller to confirm this, ill be willing to laon the 25 xpy, i just dont get how using an escrow will provide a safe loan for me since you are not giving collateral I'm actually giving the account to Quickseller and letting him do the transaction. I have not heard that paycoinpoker does not pay out. But if for some reason if the withdraw cannot be made I will give the $10 dollars I think it is back on Friday when I get paid. I know that my word is not good enough, that's why I asked Quickseller to do it for me since he is trusted by the community. You can research paycoinpoker on here if you wish, but I do think that 3 for the loan and 2 for Quickseller is a good offer for the loan and escrow fee. i see, why not, ill do this, feel free to ask quickseller to PM me or confirm about this, i doubt this, since it is not his habit to not post in a thread where he is the escrow of this I was not aware of the location of the thread and I rarely visit the altcoin section, however I confirm that I am willing to escrow this transaction. I also sent you a PGP signed message of the address to send to |
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where it is obvious (evidence) that the account was bought/sold, the trust should be reset accordingly.
So I could just buy a legendary account with let say -6000 trust score and get it cleaned? That would make it very easy for scammers to get a fresh start. Nope, because that would open another door for scammers. But I believe, you know what I meant. I am saying about the positive trust that is bought together with the accounts. So to take into account your case, instead of reset add -50000 to trust, if there is evidence that the account was traded. There is positive value to having an account with positive trust that does not have to do with scamming. For example, with positive trust you generally will not need to pay any escrow fees, which can add up if you trade a lot. It negates the chances of either an escrow service scamming you or your trading partner scamming you because you generally can ask your trading partner to send money first to you. Additionally if having positive trust were to create additional value to an account (it will as long as you can sell the account and it still has positive trust) then the owner has an incentive not to scam, as if they are caught trying to scam then they will lose the additional value their account has. If positive trust were to disappear when ownership of an account transfers then the owner of an account with a lot of positive trust may elect to attempt to scam someone instead of selling their account as the expected payoff may be higher. |
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All collateral should be held by a trusted third party.
What is the point of disallowing negative trust members from taking a loan from you if you are requiring everyone to provide collateral?
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Guys i cannot login into my account someone hacked my account i think. When i reset password via email it says username doesnot exist. What should i do? It was a senior account. Is there any bug or my account is hacked. And my Answer has been changed too  A search for the username "Thekool1s' results in this result. An attempt to login with Thekool1s as the username and ~5 random letters as the password, results in an error message saying that I entered the incorrect password (this is expected). An attempt to reset the password using the username results in the following message "A mail has been sent to your email address. Click the link in that mail to set a new password." so I would assume that whatever email you had set it to should have received a password reset email. A search of the security log shows that the password was reset via email twice today (this is likely the result of my test above and one other person's similar test. Other then that the most recent password change was on February 23, which is over a week after you last posted which would imply that your password was not hacked. If you have both forgotten your email and password (or no longer have access to the email associated with the account, then you can have theymos reset the email address to one of your choice by following the instructions on this thread |
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I would guess +1.01 to +1.25%
I am not sure what caused the short term block time to fall so much, however it appears to be a blip, and the 1008 average block time seems to have been holding steady at roughly the above pace
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Out of curiosity, when you verified your bank account did you elect to allow them to check your online banking credentials or did you provide the deposit amounts they made to your account?
How long prior to buying the bitcoin did your bank account have funds available to fund the transaction? In theory coinbase could have contacted your bank who could have said that there was a recent deposit that may or may not actually clear (e.g. a check deposit that could be retuned unpaid, among other things).
None of that matters. They don't care. I've been through all that, I had all the verifications they asked for (and I offered more to them), plenty of funds in bank account. Plain and simple: I bought low, they took my money, price had risen significantly during the 4 day ACH wait, and on the last day - WHEN THE ACH WAIT TIME WAS OVER - THEY CANCELLED THE PURCHASE WITH A SOME VAGUE, CANNED EMAIL. Attempts at trying to resolve it by contacting CB LEADS NOWHERE. Plenty of examples of this all over the web. Buy low, price rises, they cancel. Sell high, price declines, they cancel. They do it under the guise of "security concerns". All in all, your money gets tied up for AT LEAST a week and a half. They are most likely leveraging your money between the time you buy and the time they cancel and refund it.Fuck Coinbase and their Goldman Sachs/Big Brother scamming bullshit. I think it would matter. If you had verified your bank account via online banking then they may be able to more easily verify if funds are going to be available or not. If there was a recent check deposit that would be required to clear in order to cover the transaction then there would be a higher risk that ACH transaction would be reversed. There is no ACH wait time, a deposit (ACH or check) can be reversed by your bank for long after the transaction posts to your account depending on the reason. The "wait time" that you probably normally see is the bank putting a hold on the deposit for the amount of time that a deposit will normally be returned by if it is in fact going to be returned. I don't think they are trading against you. They have started offering the USD wallet with USD deposits so people could just make a USD deposit and would still have the deposit cancelled under the same circumstances |
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I pmed you
Hi! I saw ur pm but i dont need to change, I give the service.. Ty for ur interest. Ill go bitstamp price plus 5/8% I don't understand why people would want to pay a premium for an LTC/BTC trade when they can just use one of many exchanges |
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Is there a good reasoning why this is the way here? Isn't it staff job to keep these forums in order and safe? To prevent abuse mostly. Yes Ponzi's are often bad, but if we start removing them we would have to remove other proven/most likely proven scams as well. This can get really tricky, so we stay out. Why is it better to not even try to remove the obvious scams? You could do a few mistakes here and there, still I'd say it would be worth it. Of course it requires work to moderate for scams. Anyway wouldn't it be better for all of us if these forums had more utility? To prevent admins from calling me dumb, I let you know I understand this is not a simple decision. Some of even what most people think are the most obvious scams turn out to be legit. It is up to the people who are trading on here to take their own precautions to prevent themselves from getting scammed (which includes doing their own research and coming to their own conclusion) |
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Understood  It was just an observation. P.S Quite a few campaigns are not listed there. Which ones? The thread is kept very up to date and usually the only ones that aren't listed are alt-coin campaigns. The ones that pay in alt coins and that otherwise do not pay in bitcoin (e.g. affiliate earnings only) are not listed. Someone really should make a separate thread for these kinds of campaigns although I don't know how much interest those kinds of campaigns would attract |
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For everyone wondering what this thread was about chronicsky just admittedly said he was selling illegally obtained gift cards. Anyone thinking of buying gift cards from him should stay far away.
Yes! i was and i added full information that they were illegally obtained and am just a re-seller. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=968169.0Is this not allowed here? I was being fully honest , i got a buyer so i closed the thread. ~regards Sky In most jurisdictions it is illegal to knowingly receive (buy), or to knowingly sell goods that were illegally obtained (e.g. stolen). Not only that but anyone considering buying from someone who is knowingly selling illegally obtained gift cards will likely receive a gift card that will not ultimately work |
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There are only 20 signature campaigns open right now according to the signature campaign overview thread, and there are 40 threads on each page, so even if all 20 signature campaign threads were on the first page they would only take up 50% of the first page the services section |
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i think i will only be looking for offer that is better that the full member with lightgreen trust .105
There is one person selling a full member with light green trust, however that is when the trust depth is set to 4, however the default setting is 2 and the vast majority of people are only going to use a setting of 2 so it really will not show as green to most people, to most people it will show as 0/0 |
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Are you going to use escrow to guarantee that everyone will get their payment if they make he required number of posts? Without it I don't think you will be able to get man people to join no matter how much you pay
He has been on for the hours since i post and has either missed the post 'unlikely' or ignored so i have to ask why would he ignore perfectly valid questions/worries for those who join. He now has a respected member asking and painting the picture so i hope he sorts it out before anyone signs up  If you follow threw with what is being asked you will more than likely have a successful campaign so happy days. We wernt trying to avoid anyones question we were handling the escrow and got a manager, it will be updated in the OP The escrow and manager should be verified as soon as they post. What is the name of the escrow holder? (if you have not yet arranged for one then I would be willing to act as escrow for you) I think you are late, I have seen that carra23 is the escrow for this signature campaign. If people are not worried about him there isn't a problem and they can enroll. I think they updated the OP after I had made the above post. I would still proceed with caution with carra23 as he was very sketch while working on the previous signature deal he was escrow for and all of his trust is related to the previous signature campaign he ran |
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0,66
Three days ago you were asking for a no collateral loan, now you are offering .66 for a hero account. Which is it, do you need a loan or do you actually have .66? |
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Out of curiosity, when you verified your bank account did you elect to allow them to check your online banking credentials or did you provide the deposit amounts they made to your account?
How long prior to buying the bitcoin did your bank account have funds available to fund the transaction? In theory coinbase could have contacted your bank who could have said that there was a recent deposit that may or may not actually clear (e.g. a check deposit that could be retuned unpaid, among other things).
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By posting this thread you just brought more attention to yourself and the sig spam.
