no one is refuting that humans have changed things. what is refuted is how carbon is related to temperature change.
carbon affects lung health
water affects land temperature

humans affected both.
but just because humans affected both does not mean the effects are linked.
water and carbon are separate and cause separate issues.

by the way you foolish man.
the climate agenda has been used as the reason why africa is starving and why unicef and red cross are involved. maybe you should look into the real reason.

research land grab and native displacement
africa have complained to the word bank about starvation due to foreign land owners.. not carbon
wake the hell up.

heres some docu's
p1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isiYYVmvn2U
p2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Igk5NHH-qJ0

the rain forest alliance is not the carbon alliance.
destroying rainforests by burning them affects the atmosphere by destroying the planets natural water sponge for evaporation. not the smoke

by the way. when u are cold in winter. rub carbon on your body. see if it helps.. it wont
if carbon was more of an effective heat control. house radiators. heaters and such would be carbon not water based
water absorbs heat better and faster.
water cycle has changed by more than 0.01% which has a more causality causation relation to temperature differation..

i honestly cannot believe you have been soo fooled into thinking that it is carbon as the reason why unicef is doing food aid in africa..
you are naive beyond belief
atleast watch the documentaries and do a bit of african history research over the last 70 years before trying to insta-reply with anything related to ur belief in carbon=starvation

extra hint. many people have told you plants LOVE CARBON . plants love SUNLIGHT

if you learned anything from africa over the last 70 years you would know
foreign countries come in and take the land. displace the natives and then get other charities to feed/shelter them.

US military invade and take the land, sell it to other investors.. and worldbank/unicef/red cross then make millions from donations just to hand out cups of rice to the displaced

its just voodoo scam

the actual cases of actual child sacrifice is super low. and only done by the most desparate scam artists trying to con families. the majority of the ritual is just the threat of sacrifice to sway families into paying money instead of other ingrediants.

so dont think the ritual is some standard child sacrifice thing thats rampant in africa. its just a scam using threat of child sacrifice

bitcoin is not on borrowed time of someone cracking encryption. but someone having a more efficient brute forcing method
no one is going to waste a billion dollar machine to brute force a key of only $1m value.
and no quantum wont make it an instantaneous break of key. just an efficient bruteforce

relax just a little. what would take a billion years in binary might take many years in quantum. so its not a dont leave funds in a key for more than 2 minutes risk. its a just for pure luck chance. move keys once a year if your hoarding large value just to make bruteforcers see its not worth wasting a few years on a keypair

by the way. bitcoin value is not fixed to peoples lives. shops and employers are not demanded to use it.
its fiat that would be a target, simply because people are forced to use it they cant just change the parameters of fiat easily. meaning its a better target.

but thats if a nefarious user had a quantum computer and plenty of spare time. and didnt care about getting arrested for hacking/theft.

so cool down your fears. its not like those with quantum computers can hide their equipment under their bed

as long as we dont see a 90exahash bottom again we should be in for some promising good new price supports

quantum is not some alternate universe theory or splitting atoms theory
its about taking a different measure that has not been measured/seen/used before.

for instance classical computers are binary. just 0 and 1.
to simplify quantum computers its 0123 which some are using the extra 2 options as a and/or of 0 1
others use it to make dna analysis easier as dna gtac has 4 options which a binary bit couldnt handle alone to identify as either  g or t or a or c. (binary would need 2 bits for same identity)

the other thing they are doing is instead of doing it based on electrons vibrating against each other. they are using photons. (beams of light instead of electric)

the whole sci-fi alternate universe crap is just to keep people confused so industry can get a few steps ahead of the game before it becomes common practice.

yes photons are faster then electrons.. its like the difference of fibre optics vs copper wire internet.
there is no illusion or magic occuring in quantum. its just changing what and how things are measured/analysed/stored/transferred

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as for quantum computers risk to cryptography.
cryptographic puzzles based on pure binary logic. such as sha. are only 2x inferior to quantum. where as other forms such as elliptic curves which are more vector based and not so efficient in binary can be even more efficient in quantum

.. if only the women had pre knowledge they were going to be raped, maybe they could prepare for rape better...  is that your solution..??!!

sorry but i think your missing the whole topic and whole understanding of rape

just goes to show how things changed in 80 years
imagine if france voted to get germans out of france in the 1940's and germany threatened sanctions...
oh wait. that was WW2.

kind of funny how trump thinks troops should remain in a country that doesnt want them

in 2013 he told 3 businesses he moved coins into new shell companies and new trusts and used that as collateral for 3 companies to pay him some investment.
so not only scamming the ATO(aussi tax office) with tulip he then rescammed other businesses with the so called collateral migration.
(no coins actually moved though(hint: fake migration))


then it became common knowledge he didnt have keys to the 2009-10 stash so tried to reinvent documents that said he owned other coins from later dates to try keeping ATO and the companies at a arms distance.
that too fell flat due to people recognising some of the addresses as not being craigs as they belonged to others(mtgox for instance). now craig teamed up with ira. to make a frenemy (friends pretending to be enemies) debate over who owns this supposed collateral just to keep the supposed collateral 'locked up' so he can claim he has no access to it due to legal proceedings. ..
.. basically his poor excuse to avoid saying he aint got the coins and never had them. by continually saying he isnt allowed to touch them for numourous reasons..


the reasons big investors are trying to keep the deception under wraps and try to say craig is satoshi. because they want craig to generate more funds to pay back original investors just long enough so they can exit before it all comes crashing down
by the way bsv market price is pretty much break even mining cost. so he isnt really making profit to make new funds to repay old investors. so i presume he is opening up new investment firms and selling patents to make money(ponzi style)

air is free because it doesnt need a expensive device or a o2 battery to contain it or use it.
electric however is not free.
batteries cost money to store it. solar panels cost money to gather it.
heck lets image a world where we are constantly bombarded with storm clouds of lighting zapping the surface constantly. even a long metal pole and wire costs money.

even equipments to gather electric from your silly antimatter scenario. cost money

what you dont realise is 'electric' itself is not asking for payment...but the cables to your house. the coal factories, the workers the coal miners, the transportation. those cost money. and those providing all that service to get electric to you is what your paying for. so technically 'electric' is already free. but the electric service and delivery is the payments you make. and that will never change

same concept as fruit
the fruit is free but your paying for the convenience of having it available at a local grocery store without the hassle of growing your own

wrong. right now we can study that if the halving happened right now the halving is not priced in.

ofcourse hashrate can decline and mining cost can decine whereby if the price was $7.8k in 6 months and the mining cost was $3.9k then that would mean when a halving happened at that time the miners are still breaking even and thus at that point the halving is 'priced in

ofcourse hashrate can remain stagnant and mining cost can stagnate whereby if the price was $7.8k in 6 months and the mining cost was same as now then that would mean when a halving happened at that time the miners are not breaking even and thus at that point the halving is not 'priced in'

ofcourse hashrate can remain stagnant and mining cost can stagnate whereby if the price was $13k in 6 months and the mining cost was same as now then that would mean when a halving happened at that time the miners are breaking even and thus at that point the halving is 'priced in'

but thats the future situation...

you specifically said its impossible to know if january 2020 has it priced in.. and only able to tell months after the halving looking back many months..
no. todays costs and todays price does not have the excess speculative profit that could manageably cope with a halving right now.

the price has to go up or mining costs have to go down.
its something that can be studied before the event.. not months after.

ofcourse we cannot predict the speculative price of 6 months time
ofcourse we cannot predict the hashrate amount of 6 months time
ofcourse we cannot predict the mining hardware of 6 months time
so we cannot predict if in 6 months time (just before halving) if its priced in

but january2020 situation can tell you that JANUARY 2020 numbers do not have excess buffer in the speculative price to cover a halving happening right now

even if a way could be made to make electric production free. there will always be a way someone will charge for it.
EG people can grow tomatoes in their garden. yet supermarkets charge $1, and they have demand

people can have sex with their wife. but prostitutions charge to service the married man

for electric. even if free some tax or set up cost or cabling inspection/insurance would develop where costs are still incurred

also as avikz says:

totally agree with this assessment..
.. screw it 10 merit

for bitcoin halving to be priced in the market price would need to be at double of mining cost.

obviously

this is because if hashrate continues at same level then with half as many coins awarded the value of the coins would need to double to cover the mining cost.

right now the cost of mining vs bitcoin price is not at a double

the most efficent mining cost is about $6500 and the market price is not that far above.
if the market price was say ~$13k+ then yes the halving would have been 'priced in' but that is not the case.

as the halving gets closer, a few possible things can happen
mining hardware cost/efficiency gets better(lower cost) to compensate
hashrate declines and those remaining get more slice of the reward pie to compensate
market price increases to compensate

i read the article and even read the transcripts of some of the stuff linked.

craig did not have tax returns listed in 2008-2009 related to bitcoin which then came into question with the ATO... the ATO were interested in the 2013+ crap of craig creating shell companies and trusts with no collateral.

the transcripts funnily enough say that craig moved funds out of Dave kleiman and wright tulip trust and put coins into new trusts.. yet the satoshi stash has not moved.

craig later claims the tulip trust didnt contain satoshi stash(09-10) but a later stash of random coins(11-13)... but later coin analysts revealed the public keys craig claimed as his were actually coins of multiple people including mtgox

kind of funny really CSW says he has the 2009-2010 stash. years later 'i have a stash of 2011-2013 stash'... but even the new stash is proved not his... many laughs were made


so knowing craigs tulip trust did not hold the coins of 2009-2010. shows that craig didnt have access to the true satoshi stash..
thus not satoshi

and then faking ownership by listing publicly available public keys as his .. fraud basically. proves he is a fraudster.

the ATO still want their tax grants back. hense why craig is hiding in UK and not going to return to australia

you dont even know what socialism is..

here is a todler explanation

capitalism is where corporations control the government for the benefit of corporations enrichment
communism is where governments care more for the benefit of government enrichment
socialism is where democratic elected governments by people run the country for the benefit of the people


nazi was communist

america is capitalist/communist (you can tell by the lack of social care)
iran is communist/socialist
UK was socialist but now swaying more towards capitalist

as for iran and nuclear weapons.. its their country. if they want to protect themsevles they should. the only thing they shouldnt do is threaten other countries. by thi i mean distant lands.. not american politicians within iran who try to pretend they own iran

by america overstepping their boundaries its america that are in the wrong in this case
america is the nazis' trying to take over other countries and convert people to american ways

many topics have shown you got no clue what nazism or slavery really is. time you invest in a couple history books

iran just dont want the yanks being the puppet masters. iran is not threatening america. they just want the yanks out of iran.

it america that want to be a superpower by invading other countries and weaken the inhabitants

the recent iran stuff is not iran fighting the physical land/country USA.. its iran wanting US troops and delegates out of iran. iran has not threatened USA(country). they just want the embassies and corporate CEO's that are american to stop taking over iran.

things are also beginning to heat up in iraq too where it seems US people in iraq are over stepping their boundaries too.

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the reason to fight stems far far back even back to the ottoman empire 100 years ago when uk/us invaded the middle east and the middle east have been holding a grudge ever since.
(on a light analogy with america beginning to hate mexicans for invading usa and taking all the jobs)

sometimes the oppressed become depressed, no longer impressed. so express how their repressed. but western press will suppress and redress how the US should pressure the unimpressed

money ritual is about voodoo magic ritual where the end result meant to promise a person will get rich. where in some cases the ingrediant required for the spell is a blood sacrifice of an animal or child.

the reality is not as just described as most of the time a chicken is sacrificed or just a few drops of blood are used by naive people doing it themselves. only the crazy go full murder ritualistic

the goal/ploy of it originates as a scam performed by voodoo witches getting paid to perform fake spells using threats of sacrifice or bad luck if they dont pay

a more tame version of the scam is scientology where followers meant to buy books and follow demands for a promise of life enrichment. purely to make scientologist elitists rich

in theory yes. in practice .. well depends

it depends on how the individual keys are brought together.
for instance if binance creates 3 keys and hands them out then binance could still keep all 3 keys

another risk is the script could end up being just a 2-3 multisig, not 3-3 which a naive user doesnt realise meaning although each person independantly supplied a key. the script creator fixes it so only 2 of the 3 are needed meaning 2 parties can collude to mess with the third user.

there are things like LN that run on 2of 2 multisigs and there are still ways to mess with a counterparty.
such as refusing to sign unless counterpart agrees that one party gets more out than deserved. forcing people to sign just to get something rather than nothing.

other risks are if an app is involved in the multisig communication. where the app might be tweaked to fake its results or just auto-pilot signing transactions.

in short there are many other risks and strategies to consider. so nothing is truly fool proof

yep best to find something else
and to save you another search.. a movie called 'crypto' is just a few splashings of the buzzwords 'mining' & 'bitcoin'.. but too isnt really computer sciency. its more SEC investigating money laundering of a russian mafia that end up holding people hostage for blackmail.

and if you are keen on 'computer science stuff' if you find a show talking about quantum being described as some alternate universe thing. then its bull crap and they have no clue. so not a good reference to learn from