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I don't get, cryptonotefoundation.org...
Does that mean the maker of scrypt, charlie lee, should make a scryptfoundation.org?
or the maker of SHA256, should make a sha256foundation.org?
Lol.
(I know cryptonote isnt a algo, cryptonight is, but im just comparing it with other algos)
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I was just getting ready to fire back a heavy worded, not well thought out, assault.
But, it seems you guys are right. Monero should aim to be as private/anonymous as possible. Anything less is "giving in".
However, I got Very irritated seeing Anon136's response, it seemed like he only wanted the coin to do "illegal" things, that shouldn't be in the public eye. I believe in privacy centric coins, simply because we need them. In an ever growing, transparent world, were the government(NSA etc), are spying on every civilian in America, and in many parts around the world, we need things that would remind us that we are in control over our lives and our selves.
"than ill just take my capital elsewhere", Hehe I may seem like a immature noob, but I also contemplate investing a sizable amount in Cryptonote coins, well over 300k, much contemplation, little time.
Heck yes i want people to be able to do "illegal" things. If the government says that all jews must report to the camps and that people are not allowed to hide them in their attic, hell yes i want people to be able to break that law. If the government says that saudi woman are not allowed to own private property than hell yes i want saudi woman to be able to break that law. If the government says that joe must fund some immoral war of aggression hell yes i want joe to have the tools necessary to break that law. Im not going to be coy about the fact that i want people to have the tools necessary to avoid exploitation at the hands of well armed tyrants. Im not ashamed of that. I'm not going to apologize for that. And i dont give a damn what other people think of me, or the technology that i use, because of it. In that case, I should rephrase. Maybe immoral would be better instead of illegal, since all the things you've listed are immoral by the governments themselves. But anyway, you guys are right. I was too quick to judge. |
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That right there makes it seem as if you just want anonymity to do illegal things only...
Spoken like a true politician. "Why do you want privacy if you have nothing to hide?" My reasons for privacy, legal or not, are none of your fucking business. And that's the point of Monero. All transactions should be private, without anyone having to justify themselves to anyone else. I agree. I forgot the meaning of the word private. What you do in your private time is for you to know only, whether you wish to share it or not. |
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I was just getting ready to fire back a heavy worded, not well thought out, assault.
But, it seems you guys are right. Monero should aim to be as private/anonymous as possible. Anything less is "giving in".
However, I got Very irritated seeing Anon136's response, it seemed like he only wanted the coin to do "illegal" things, that shouldn't be in the public eye. I believe in privacy centric coins, simply because we need them. In an ever growing, transparent world, were the government(NSA etc), are spying on every civilian in America, and in many parts around the world, we need things that would remind us that we are in control over our lives and our selves.
"than ill just take my capital elsewhere", Hehe I may seem like a immature noob, but I also contemplate investing a sizable amount in Cryptonote coins, well over 300k, much contemplation, little time.
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I hope the dev has no time for posting because he is watching the world cup.  Or maybe he's playing In the world cup? Nah, Dev is probably banging hookers in the Bahamas with all the $ he made off Razor. |
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Like darlidida said, every Cryptonote coin, no matter how bad the name or crappy the dev, is better than Darkcoin, simply because they already deliver anonymity by default, while Darkcoin doesn't.
The market disagrees with you as the DRK market cap exceeds all CN coins combined. This reflects the fact that CN coins are struggling with crippling problems. They have not yet been tested under even moderate transaction volumes. Until these issues are fixed, they'll continue to be very anonymous in the sense that no one will be hearing about them. (the market cap based on current supply is meaningless, you should look at the total market cap taking into account all coins to be mined). But anyway, bookmarked this one, just to have a look again in 3~6 months.  I Loled. Brilliantrocket doesn't realize Darkcoin's marketcap is based solely on hype, they promise anonymity, while Cryptonote coins already deliver anonymity. Shows how delusional he is too, doesn't realize that Darkcoin is being currently manipulated aka supported/pumped/dumped by large whales. Yes, I've seen all those 300+, 700+ BTC buy walls go on for about 5 minutes, then get taken off immediately, just to drive the price up. Once those whales stop supporting this coin because of the Hype attributed to it, the "marketcap" will come crashing down to nothingness. You don't seriously think a coin like Darkcoin, having the name it is, having the 50% instamine that it has, and having the lack of anonymity that is has, would of got that far if it wasn't for the large whales manipulating the market...Once those same whales pull out after having made enough money on the continuous pumps and dumps we've seen, that instamined-scamcoin will drop faster than a rock.Of course you wouldn't know any of this brilliantrocket... |
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There are actually 3 big anon coins. They are
1) Monero
2) Vertcoin
3) Darkcoin
Vertcoin is the first to use stealth addresses inside the coin itself
Monero is the first cryptonote to have a fair distribution and has Ring Signatures, which offers the highest level of anonymity(Bytecoin has a 82% premine)
Darkcoin is the first to have masternodes
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Also, the data that moves between masternodes will be encrypted, making Darksend trustless.
Trustless in the sense that your transactions cannot be unmasked through masternode owner collusion.
That does not follow from link encryption. Maybe I'm mistaken on encryption being the way its done, but the Dark developer stated that it's being worked on. This is exactly why DRK is over priced : people are investing money into a coin whose proposal value is a work in progress. This is why XMR has such a potential growth : it only lacks what DRK already has : user friendliness and marketing. I really feel for DRK supporters because they are being scammed out of their precious bitcoins and they dont even know about it. Another part of me thinks they deserve it because we've been calling it for what it is for a long time now. Monero is just as much a work in progress until it gets ip obfuscation. Your argument doesn't make sense because it applies to all CN coins. Your statement would make sense if masternodes were as good as ring signatures to protect your privacy. They are not. You may think they are sufficiently good but you would be wrong the proof is within this thread : the richest are not long term investing into DRK. Otherwise, I agree : my statement applies to every CN coins and that is exactly why DRK is destined to fail : every CN coin is literally better than DRK. You dont seem to understand that everyone on this thread is betting on technological advancement. You are betting on promises. That is true, I am in Dark simply to sell at pumps and buy in at dumps. It is in no way a longterm investment coin, anyone saying that is just a bagholder like I am, looking to start a pump so they could dump again. Dark is only offering promises of anonymity, even then, it's coinjoin based anonymity is leagues below the Ring Signature anonymity that Cryptonote coins offer. Like darlidida said, every Cryptonote coin, no matter how bad the name or crappy the dev, is better than Darkcoin, simply because they already deliver anonymity by default, while Darkcoin doesn't. |
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Some actually good domain names...Refreshing to see that out of the mess of usually crap that people post to sell in Digital goods.
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The point of this is, Darkcoin fanboys Cannot argue against other coins, they're own coin has the most issues of any cryptocoin I have ever seen. 50% instamine by it's own devs, trivial anonymity? Smh.
Darkcoin Facts:
1) 50% Instamine by the devs at launch, Darkcoin devs had Block Reward set to 500 coins per block, they hold over 1million Darkcoins in their posession
2) Masternodes are a centralized entity, if someone bought up all the masternodes, they would de-anonymize Darkcoin
3) Darkcoin uses coinjoin for mixing, the maker of coinjoin, gmaxwell, stated that Coinjoin itself is hardly even anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke.
4) Darkcoin's name affiliates it with Dark acitivities, like drugs, the Darkweb, etc, no normal bitcoin user, not to mention regular joe, will ever use Darkcoin
5) Dozenz more of issues, they're too long to list on this thread
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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable. Interesting. I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all. I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar. Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream? Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies. Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%... Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy. Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again. You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao. The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves. So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue. Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities. There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin. You are the one who is lying if you can't admit that CN denomination causes massive bloat. Did I deny that? Oh yea you're just lying again. It provides anonymity, but for ex: Monero's blockchain is only 2x bitcoins right now, and it provides the highest level of anonymity for a cryptocoin atm. It's funny how you keep going back to "blockchain bloat" as if that's a factor is a game-killer. What is a game-killer, is Darkcoin's 50% instamine by it's own development team, it's trivial coinjoin based anonymity, it's easy to centralize- Masternode system, which detracts from the miners, since owners get 20% of mine coins from blocks, as well as it's name Darkcoin which will always be affiliated with illegal activities.That's a nice coin you fanboy over. (sarcasm) |
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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable. Interesting. I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all. I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar. Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream? Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies. Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%... Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy. Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again. You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao. The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves. So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue. Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities. There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin. |
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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable. Interesting. I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all. I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar. Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream? Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies. Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%... Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy. Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again. You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao. |
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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable. Interesting. I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all. I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar. Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream? Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies. Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%... |
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Darkcoin FUD:
I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals.
Serious improvements to coinjoin my ass. Gmaxwell comments are not for the old version, he made those comments less than 4 weeks ago.
Darkcoin's name will always be affiliated with the Darkweb, and DRUGS. No one in their right mind will ever use that coin to purchase anything.
Think twice before commenting on other coins, even Bytecoin with it's 82% premine is more reputable than Darkcoin with it's 50% instamine...by it's own Developers! |
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I own 210 Darkcoins, which is the most of any altcoin I own.
However, I am not deluded as some Darkcoin fanboys are.
Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined the coin by 50%, 50 fucking percent! Who do you think those top addresses with 200k dark each in them belong to? The Devs!!
Darkcoin's name itself will never gain it acceptance by Anyone.
Darkcoin's "anonymity" is based off coinjoin, and gmaxwell, the maker of coinjoin, even said that it's hardly anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke!
The only reason Darkcoin is going up in price, is it's being pumped and dumped over and over again by large whales for profit, I've seen 300 btc+ buy walls been put up just to drive the price up, so the whales can dump. Once RC4 is over, Darkcoin will not be supported by those large whales anymore, and the price will come crashing down to nothing.
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Darkcoin Facts:
1) 50% Instamine by the devs at launch, Darkcoin devs had Block Reward set to 500 coins per block, they hold over 1million Darkcoins in their posession
2) Masternodes are a centralized entity, if someone bought up all the masternodes, they would de-anonymize Darkcoin
3) Darkcoin uses coinjoin for mixing, the maker of coinjoin, gmaxwell, stated that Coinjoin itself is hardly even anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke.
4) Darkcoin's name affiliates it with Dark acitivities, like drugs, the Darkweb, etc, no normal bitcoin user, not to mention regular joe, will ever use Darkcoin
5) Dozenz more of issues, they're too long to list on this thread
Bytecoin Facts:
1) 82% instamine by a small group of miners over the course of 2 years
2) Bytecoin devs are shown to be incompetant, they recently tried copy/pasting code from other Cryptonote coins and it resulted in their own codebase getting even buggier than it really is, resulting in users loosing their coins when they sent them in a transaction.
What do Darkcoin and Bytecoin have in common? They were both hugely unfairly mined, with Darkcoin having a 50% instamine at it's launch by it's own development team, and Bytecoin having a 82% premine over the 2 years it was kept secret by a very small group of miners.
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.biz don't rank well on Google. So the price won't be high.
What price are you looking for?
Thanks
TBH, you're a complete idiot. All TLD's are ranked equally, accoriding to Search Engines(google, bing etc), go search it up. |
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IAmRichard doesn't know what he's saying. I think he's just pulling sentences and phrases out of his ass.
On another thread he said how Mining.biz won't be featured highly on Search Engines(aka Google, Bing etc). However, Google treats all TLD's equally and .biz is a TLD.
He doesn't know what the hell he's talking about.
OP is right, they can't do anything unless OP is using the site to purposely jeopardize the Gyft brand.
Conclusion: IAmRichard is an idiot, I've read a good few posts of his, and he has No idea what he's talking about.
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Hive should support Cryptonote coins.
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