Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War

[Brilliantrocket]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have extensive cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

[darkota]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

[Brilliantrocket]

Darkcoin FUD:

I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals. Also I'm glad if the devs have alot of Darkcoin. I wouldn't support the project if they didn't.

The coinjoin concept is trustless by default. How does encrypting data make a difference? You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

If the data is unencrypted, and an entity owned a large number of nodes, they may be able to unmask a small % of transactions. Encryption solves this issue.

[drawingthesun]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have extensive cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Bitcoin can't be used by a moron at the moment. You need a reality check.

[Brilliantrocket]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

[Brilliantrocket]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have extensive cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Bitcoin can't be used by a moron at the moment. You need a reality check.

Considering that I've taught people that are computer illiterate how to use Bitcoin, I'd disagree.

[darkota]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.

[Brilliantrocket]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.

The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves. It will take months and months of development effort to bring them to something that can be considered a beta.

[drawingthesun]

Darkcoin FUD:

I already explained to you in another thread that masternodes will be trustless through encrypted data. Darkcoin made serious improvements to Coinjoin, Gmaxwell's comments refer to the old version. Point number 4 is abject bullshit because there are already users of Darkcoin who are not criminals. Also I'm glad if the devs have alot of Darkcoin. I wouldn't support the project if they didn't.

The coinjoin concept is trustless by default. How does encrypting data make a difference? You seriously have no idea what you are talking about.

If the data is unencrypted, and an entity owned a large number of nodes, they may be able to unmask a small % of transactions. Encryption solves this issue.

It doesn't, because if you own a large number of nodes, you can map out the in's and out's of all your nodes and build up a reasonable graph of connections between your own nodes. The fact that it is encrypted makes no difference.

I have been reading the Darkcoin forums, and I see this exchange over and over again:

"It doesn't matter if someone owns a large amount of masternodes, anonymity is already good anyway"

"STFU, once we get the masternodes having no idea what they are transacting it'll be ok"

I am paraphrasing here, but the Darkcoin followers are not asking real technical questions, no one is running models of the masternode network or offering mathematical reasoning behind their fantasy.

A fool and their money are soon parted...

The amount of ownership of the masternode network is of the highest importance, and the technology behind making the masternodes have no idea what they are transacting may not even be possible.

[drawingthesun]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have extensive cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Bitcoin can't be used by a moron at the moment. You need a reality check.

Considering that I've taught people that are computer illiterate how to use Bitcoin, I'd disagree.

Show me the people you have taught to use Bitcoin, and I will teach them to use Monero.

Monero might even be easier, as you don't have to deal with more than one receiving address.

[darkota]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.

The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves.

So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue.

Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities.

There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin.

[Brilliantrocket]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.

The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves.

So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue.

Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities.

There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin.

You are the one who is lying if you can't admit that CN denomination causes massive bloat.

[darkota]

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Fast? Hilarious. I'll check back in a year, and I doubt that it'll be ready for prime time even then. You are the one who is misinformed if you think Monero is even close to being even usable.

Interesting.

I have moved lots of Monero around and run into no issues at all.

I see, you're not misinformed, you're the one trying to misinform. I will remember you as a liar.

Who cares if you can use it? I'm assuming that you have cryptocurrency knowledge. If your coin can't be used by a moron, how do you expect it to go mainstream?

Incase you didnt know, Monero, Boolberry, Bytecoin, they all have GUI wallets. Maybe you should go and use them instead of making up lies.

Darkcoin "fanboys" should never try to hate on other coins, cause the amount of deceit Darkcoin has gone through, is unbelievable. Darkcoin's own devs freaking instamined their coin 50%...

Just saunter on over to the respective threads of each of those coins and watch the incessant barrage of crippling issues that people deal with on a daily basis. It makes for good comedy.

Hmm, I recall that Darkcoin forked multiple times when it first tried going into RC3, then it tried a second time...and Failed again.

You shouldn't be talking about issues Lmfao.

The fork caused issues for a few hours. Your coin(s) are an issue unto themselves.

So far, Monero and Boolberry's bloating problem has been solved, through eliminating dust from the pools. That was the main issue.

Darkcoin's issue, is the 50% instamine, the centralization of Masternodes through one entity in the future, and the name Darkcoin, which is and will always be affiliated with Dark activities.

There's also how Darkcoin anonymity is a joke compared to others, because it uses coinjoin. and Much more, It's kind of funny, that you resort to lying BrilliantRocket to protect your asset, Darkcoin.

You are the one who is lying if you can't admit that CN denomination causes massive bloat.

Did I deny that? Oh yea you're just lying again.

It provides anonymity, but for ex: Monero's blockchain is only 2x bitcoins right now, and it provides the highest level of anonymity for a cryptocoin atm.

It's funny how you keep going back to "blockchain bloat" as if that's a factor is a game-killer.

What is a game-killer, is Darkcoin's 50% instamine by it's own development team, it's trivial coinjoin based anonymity, it's easy to centralize- Masternode system, which detracts from the miners, since owners get 20% of mine coins from blocks, as well as it's name Darkcoin which will always be affiliated with illegal activities.

That's a nice coin you fanboy over. (sarcasm)

[Brilliantrocket]

Drawingthesun, so through massive collusion there may be a chance of unmasking transactions. The reality is that you're naive to think CN would hide you from such an entity. They already have backdoors in your hardware/firmware, so isn't it a moot point? If they were really willing to put in the effort to deanonymize certain transactions, you can rest assured that no perfect solution exists. Darkcoin affords a high degree of privacy, which is sufficient for the majority of people looking for "anonymous" transactions.

[darkota]

The point of this is, Darkcoin fanboys Cannot argue against other coins, they're own coin has the most issues of any cryptocoin I have ever seen. 50% instamine by it's own devs, trivial anonymity? Smh.

Darkcoin Facts:

1) 50% Instamine by the devs at launch, Darkcoin devs had Block Reward set to 500 coins per block, they hold over 1million Darkcoins in their posession

2) Masternodes are a centralized entity, if someone bought up all the masternodes, they would de-anonymize Darkcoin

3) Darkcoin uses coinjoin for mixing, the maker of coinjoin, gmaxwell, stated that Coinjoin itself is hardly even anonymous, and that Darkcoin's "anonymity" is a joke.

4) Darkcoin's name affiliates it with Dark acitivities, like drugs, the Darkweb, etc, no normal bitcoin user, not to mention regular joe, will ever use Darkcoin

5) Dozenz more of issues, they're too long to list on this thread

[aminorex]

this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?

[cyrpi4]

this incessant squawking about drk is completely off-topic.  why not start a drk vs cn war thread if that is what you want?

+1

Why's there 2  BCNvsXMR war threafs and no war thread for DRK and CN-based coins??

I am pretty sure that all CN-based coins community would be interesting in listening to DRK community's view on CryptoNote 

[JazzCouncil]

What the hell happened to this thread??!!!

[Jcw188]

What the hell happened to this thread??!!!

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

[werrindor]

What the hell happened to this thread??!!!

I just read the last few pages and would also like to know what's happened here! Not to use a soundbyte but really guys, what are you hoping to achieve with all this? Surely making peace not war is preferable to bashing - what will that do for any coin's success or the community image? Both are vitally important, I'm sure you wouldn't disagree there.

Finally we got a normal person here.