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12341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 07, 2019, 09:58:04 PM
Should we resign from all the gadgets because they are monitoring our activities? I don't think so.

should we hack/jailbreak tech and allow ourselves to use whatever open source apps we would actually prefer on the device? yep

kind of like should we just resign from bitcoin coz core centralised the decisions.
or should we keep trying to hold them accountable to their actions and try preventing them sliding in changes that take people off the network without consent(consensus)
12342  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 06:50:27 PM
stay inside your 4 corner box of freeman whitterings.

by you calling it four corner shows your just referencing freeman rhetoric yet again
its called contract law in the real world and its you that needs to research it because then you will see where your failings are..

oh wait i told you many posts ago to research contract law independantly away from the freeman crap
and here you are responding using the freeman buzzwords
seems you resorted to having to research the freemans mis-interpretations yet again

to respond to below
badecker is the one copy and pasting and using the terms and linking the links of freeman cult.. no on else is
everyone else is trying to correct backecker but badecker refuses to realise that he is the one that should do the research beyond the cult
its like telling a scientologist to wake up to the cult and the scientologist accuses the rest of the world of being scientologists
12343  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 06:45:12 PM
im correcting the legal context. but all you can scrape the bottom of the barrel of responses, is over is my grammar.
my point is made

to respond to below badecker is in such denial about how wrong he is that he has resorted to being a grammar nazi
he has either become ignorant of his failing or realised his mistakes but doesnt want to admit he failed.
kind of petty
12344  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 06:40:41 PM
I believe I already addressed those very things in this very thread.  She does not get paid.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204459.msg53279951#msg53279951
   I'm done here.

but you skipped the book deals and the 5 day paid holidays curtesy of Ted Talks and such
and yes her mother does get income from the books before you even consider denying it. not every penny goes to charity
only the POSSIBLE excess 'profit' after taking their 'costs' (trips around the world and food and accommodation)

in short she is not self funding from savings she/family accumilated prior to 2018. she is funded by book deals and conferences after 2018
and she is not actually striking as sh gets school permission and does stuff on school breaks

yet she wants other kids to strike against schools wishes(facepalm)
12345  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 06:30:17 PM
Doesn't mean she's not getting paid.
  Do you have evidence that she is being paid?  Don't hold out on us.

Ted Talks:
Quote
We do, of course, cover travel costs and provide excellent hotel accommodation
...
Other benefits include pre-conference coaching and training,
gretas facebook: Feb 11th
Quote
My family has written a book together about our family and how me and my sister Beata have influenced my parents way of thinking and seeing the world, especially when it comes to the climate. And about our diagnoses.
That book was due to be released in May. But since there was a major disagreement with the book company, we ended up changing to a new publisher and so the book was released in august instead.
...
Furthermore I only travel with permission from my school and my parents pay for tickets and accommodations.
book income .. oh and hmm striking from school.. wait.. she said sh got permission from school
oh and her summer 2018 strike.. yep school holidays.meaning no school anyway

.. and as my point illustrated she also in her facebook post said climate change is black and white. emissions reductions is the black and white solution

.. sorry but its more complex than that
12346  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 05:59:29 PM
lets pretend that you finally woke up to the freeman cult and instead diverted to constitutional law and common law(the real stuff)

constitutional law and civil law and common law of countries applies to its citizens. meaning by you trying to say you follow the constitution and want all your constitutional rights. means you are the same slave to the constitution

have a nice day

its the difference between
knowing you bodies physical capability to walk.
vs
demanding your 'right to travel'
by you demanding your right under law puts you in the same box you call slavery

There you go again, spouting freeman stuff. Why are you so hung up on it? I mean, don't tell me. But at least you said it clearly enough that you might be off your booze for a moment.

Cool

your the one spouting it in many topics. im correcting your rhetoric.
12347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 05:48:59 PM
lets pretend that you finally woke up to the freeman cult and instead diverted to constitutional law and common law(the real stuff)

constitutional law and civil law and common law of countries applies to its citizens. meaning by you trying to say you follow the constitution and want all your constitutional rights. means you are the same slave to the constitution

its the difference between
knowing you bodies physical capability to walk.
vs
demanding your 'right to travel'
by you demanding your right under law puts you in the same box you call slavery

if you really wanted to go against the laws and be independant from civilisation well your only way would be to go to a country without laws.
being an idiot and pretending laws dont apply to you because you declare your a new undocumented pronoun does not mean you have no responibilities or consequences in a country with laws.
you are just in olden times considered an outlaw or modern times a criminal for breaking the rules of law.
and no pretending your a pink dress wearing fairy that rides a mechanical bull will get you out of the consequences of braking the law.

so if you want to be a free man. find a deserted lawless island

have a nice day
or understand the real law. and use it to your benefit by learning what is allowed and not allowed and staying out of trouble
12348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 05:39:47 PM
funny how you cant counter my points so just become a grammar nazi, typical response

your ignorant
spend your wasted time doing research, no need to keep replying with defending your ignorance
have a good day
12349  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Did Satoshi steal other people's ideas for Bitcoin and one reason why he left? on: December 07, 2019, 05:16:50 PM
Satoshi developed Bitcoin and Blockchain technology without reading any papers of those people what you have mentioned. After he developed the Bitcoin system he was wondering if any one thinking to create e-cash. so search on the Internet and found few articles but not was not very good. Nothing impressed him. He cited Wei Dai and Adam back in White Paper just to let the Cypherpunks know that it not not just a new thing. He even did not bother to say anything about the Bitgold of Nick because it has another story how nick got it from Satoshi. B Money of Wei Dai was not fully explained anything about E-Cash System. It was very poor. But He consider his paper because of Wei Dai was an educated Cryptographer. Craig Wright claimed now that Satoshi plagiarized  his paper which has another story. Every thing will be explained by Satoshi himself soon.

seriously your just fooling yourself

the real satoshi was part of the cypherpunks group before inventing bitcoin. he referenced wei dai and others because he used their ideas and patchworked them together into an impressive thing.

he contacted them and attributed their efforts. he did not steal he did not pre invent and then research others that came close
he simply used different idea's in a new combined way

satoshi disapeared because he became aware that he was becoming a central figure which was going against the whole decentralised idea bitcoin was meant to be. he didnt want the power or the control.

many people mis-took his messages about not wanting to review every persons individual codebases as a stupid wording to mean there should only be one codebase everyone follows. instead he was trying to not be the main go-to guy(central point)
yet here we are with one codebase and flocks of blind followers just trusting one brand. and treating any other de team as an enemy.. when infact having just one decision making brand should be treated as the enemy to decentralisation
12350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 04:57:27 PM
What you state above ("*scientific consensus was that smoking was healthy for people.") has NEVER been true.  You must be confusing false advertising with science

 “More doctors smoke Camels than any other cigarette.”

 Since the early 1950's, the consensus has been that cigarette smoking leads to fatal illness but due to almighty profit, cigarette companies waged an offensive against the scientific community and the unsuspecting smoker.  
 Tobacco was introduced to Europe from the "New World" in the late 16th century and by the early 17th century (1602 I believe), Dr Eleazar Duncon penned a letter about the ill-effects of smoking tobacco.  There are many reports from the 17th and 18th century linking smoking to ill health as well.

 Where on earth did you find that little nugget of untruth?


your example is perfect.
a few minds say smoking is bad but large public consensus thought smoking was good by enlisting alot of doctors who attributed their names to limited science and so public opinion..
because more were swayed to the limited science reports than the few minds that have been saying its bad

and thats how cigarettes became ok in governments eyes
it wasnt until decades later people started to wis up
we are still stuck in the 'more doctors smoke camel' era metaphorically

carbon dioxide is a concern for human health but water is a concern for climate.
its like when people talk about climate change then go on a tangeant about microbeads poisoning fish.
carbon is the microbead in that analogy

its far easier to handle the water cycle to cause more of a climate impact than carbon
and then separately handle carbon for the human health impact.

but yea. the argument will go on about 'things need to change' but years later after report and report are made all thats changed is the number of reports and debates.
untill the UN can actually start to come up with hard rules of tree's per populus area and water usage per farm and % of land permitted to be used. things wont change

some countries are already trying to make their couple decade old national strategies for other things appear as 'climate change' strategies to then pretend they are promoting climate change

some have said the whole 'farming quota' of the EU which sole purpose was to not have a food over supply (cheap food) are now making it a 'climate change' purpose. just to tick a fake box that they done something. although nothing really changed

because the whole finger pointing is just 'show you done "something" in a report' not actually 'do X'

take london. instead of actually cutting down on car manufacturing they just closed off traffic in certain area's whereby the closed off area becomes carbon reduced. but the result is more carbon on the other roads that have become more jammed up due to diversions which is not a combined net reduction. just a move it away from certain sensors to fake positive results
12351  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Health tips people need to know on: December 07, 2019, 03:20:09 PM
There is a grand total of zero evidence to show that GMOs are in anyway harmful or that organic food is anyway more healthy.

All evidence shows that recommended levels of aspartame, MSG, and fluoride are harmless.

fluoride is dangerous.
it messes with your thyroid and other things. its why they say dont swallow mouth wash and toothpaste

yes one rare mouthwash swallow may not cause much harm. but that is then used to say suddenly its fine to swallow often because a single swallow is not harmful

EG one portion contains X. company then makes a same gram tinned item become 2 portions that way each portion has X still but now they have twice as much X in the same gram tin as before just changing the 'portion' size

its like chocolate having refined sugar. instead of reducing sugar per bar. they reduce the chocolates bar size.
and then ofcourse people then just end up buying multipacks because bitesize just aint enough anymore

have you ever seen anyone just eat one stamp size cube of chocolate and say 'thats enough thats my daily allowance' and truly mean it and be happy about it, fully satisfied
12352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Facial Recognition Scan is forcibly being implemented over the world!!!. on: December 07, 2019, 03:00:07 PM
I like technology and I don't mind if I'm being filmed by CCTV and scanned. Most people get upset and nervous when you take your phone and start filming them walking, but they don't understand they're being filmed all the time, just not as blatantly. It shows that as long as you don't see things you don't care, but once you realize it's happening it makes you more scared, paranoid even.


Technology always has some pros and cons. I'm a fan of smart homes and think that it's great that your house can sense you coming back and heat up the interior, switch the lights on, make you a coffee. Some people will be scared that what if the house locks you inside or starts telling the whole world where you are and what you're doing, but there's a risk in everything we're doing. You want self driving cars but you also don't want them to run people over or drive off a clif.

but the perception of CCTV is that the image data is purely used by police to monitor potential crimes. not to then be used to sell to amazon on peoples shopping habits.

having a geolocation app that communicates just to your home router and just activates the heating when in proximity has its uses. but then selling the geolocation data to show which petrol stations you fuel your car at or what shops you visited and finding out if you like the temperature real hot to advertise hot chilli meals and hot drinks or if you prefer the temperature cooler to advertise iced tea and and cold meals is just taking things too far into peoples privacy
12353  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We all had our "accidents" in life, but..... on: December 07, 2019, 02:47:59 PM
The holy bible do make this very clear that “it is better each man should have his own wife”

such point does not limit:
men can stay single
   it said 'it is better' not 'it is required'..   so men can be single or be gay or other

men can have more than one wife
   it said 'his own wife' not 'only one wife' .. so men can have a wife and a husband.. or multiple wives
   if it was worded 'should have only on wife' then a man cant then have a house or a car or children as all he is allowed is a wife

also. the real 'holy bible' was not even written in modern english. so overall the 'holy bible' said none of that
12354  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 02:29:12 PM
firstly your not asking questions. your trying to make points. using references that have nothing to do with the points as many have informed you

secondly freeman rhetoric is not law or real. it is th same as where a cult mis-understands religion/science to form a group of people that believe in something that others dont. and yes cults are not the ones in the right.

your defense of the freeman stuff shows your still not seeing the flaws of it. you are still trying to find excuses to carry on thinking that you can lawfully drive on a public road without a driving licence or pretend your a corporation brand instead of a human to get out of court fines

just expand your eyes beyond the copy and paste crap of freeman and start to see the whole picture and maybe you will see the HOLE in the freeman picture

it is rather amusing to see cultists defend their stance to the death.
you talk about rights but avoid understanding the responsibilities and consequences that come with it

you title 'legal facts'  are not facts
many have told you this. so its time to wake yourself up

freeman stuff is not the plain meaning law nor is it the common law of common knowledge/common sense. freeman stuff is the mis-interpretation and trying to convince people that something means something else

sorry but your name is not a corporation
your name is an identifier of you. no matter if you identify yourself as a corporation a helicopter or a shemale. your name is still you. so you can play all the games you like. its still you

the whole freeman "person" stuff is about you can pretend your business is liable but your not by trying to detach yourself, you can pretend you go by different pronouns to escape the law

but you the human being known as whatever thing you present yourself as are still liable
so just stop pretending that your a corporation as thats not what the plain meaning/common law is.

i stiil laugh that one of your points was thinking there are no judges in courts.
12355  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 01:45:30 PM
your the freman.
your the one using the words and rhetoric

you even lack researching what you copy and paste

try spending more time researching your crap and less time trying to convince others that freeman rhetoric is real
and then when you do wake up dont then start trying to say that others are freeman to hide your the freeman

because its like your trying to convince people that your a helicopter not a human.. when you realise your not a helicopter then trying to convince people that they are the helicopter and you are the only human...

your just spinning yourself into circles

dont waste your time on the freeman stuff. research tresspass and contracts and find your escape of where freeman rhetoric goes wrong
12356  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 01:33:03 PM
my point is this

*scientific consensus was that smoking was healthy for people.
yep even science isnt clear
yep show a group of scientists a limited info report and they will see a correlation of info A =B but them reports have excluded
for many decades science was saying smoking was ok

heres an anlogy
numbers show high correlation that stained teeth/decay vs lung cancer.. summarising: bad dental care = lung cancer
where as its not showing that its smoking that causes the dental issues which causes the lung cancer
so the report concentrates on tellng people to go to a dentist regularly. not mentioning stop smoking

history shown many times that toothdecay=heart disease (facepalm to them pre-historic narrowminded scientists)

*climate change is real but the message is just 'do something'. yet not really saying what the "something" is
EG asking to stop dismissing something is just words and and thoughts.
i can say for someone to research x,y,z but even if they end up researching it. it just becomes knowledge in their head and words coming out their mouth. still the actual "something" has not changed the environment it just changed thoughts and words
her demands lack substance. and just finger pointing
if she said plant X tree's per populace number
open X renewable power plants then thats substance

but saying 'do something' 'do agree to change it' where the agreement just is numbers and not plans/actions' is empty

anyone can say they agree to reduce something by X% but without being forced into HOW and without forced into a penalty for failure makes the agreement meaningless and makes the demanding of an agreement empty and all just words
its like the old addige 'better to ask for forgiveness after than ask permission first'

to actually get climate change to occur there needs agreements of actual action of tree's planted. renewable power generation investment in actual solutions and not just a empty agreement to do 'something'

i have read through the paris agreement and even if every country agreed to it. i can see many many 'get out' clauses that actually means countries can be following the agreement but actually not do any work apart from filing reports and doing minimal actions. there is no actual hard requirements.
yep countries can declare they cannot change due to national debt or other excuses and still be treated as following the paris agreement by just reporting their limitations at the 5year 'stocktake'

so again asking countries to do something when the 'do something' is just agreeing to agree. is empty of substance
12357  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Office of the Person on: December 07, 2019, 04:05:27 AM
"person"
(facepalm) your still freemaning it i see

just wake up. again your a decade too late.
stop referencing guys with freeman rhetoric.

oh by the way
try bothering to even read
1 U.S.C. sec 1 and Church of Scientology v. U.S. Dept. of Justice (1979) 612 F.2d 417, 425

it will tell you about plain meaning..

the trick freeman try to do is by knowing common law is due to well known customs. such as common sense where a certain thing is commonly known.
freeman are trying to rewrite what is common' by trying to get people to think that a person is anything but a person. EG prtending a person is a pink dress wearing cow that can fly a helicopter.

and if they can convince enough peolpe that the common knowledge/common sense meaning of person is suddenly something else. they can then try to fight laws that use the word person

but the problem is
1 U.S.C. sec 1 and Church of Scientology v. U.S. Dept. of Justice (1979) 612 F.2d 417, 425
states that in law the plain meaning is just that. and people have the common sense and have customarilly used the word person in reference to a human whether they are just an individual human or a human doing a political job or a corporate job
person does not man it excludes a individual from the term it means it expands it to cover all foolish entities a human tries to pretend to be
such as freemen trying to say their name is a corporation


so person=human being
and freeman are not gonna win that fight.
its becoming just as bad as flat earthers trying to convince the earth aint round to try making some lame point

anyway try to actually do some research and stop copying and pasting freeman rhetoric
12358  Other / Politics & Society / Re: LEGAL "FACTS" MOST PEOPLE DO NOT KNOW, BUT SHOULD on: December 07, 2019, 03:55:26 AM
LOL! That's really good stuff. Do you have any legal sites for it, or is it all freeman?

all YOUR stuff has been freeman rhetoric .. and your soo inept/narrow minded, that you either dont realise it or are just soo arrogant in your ignorance that you are suddenly trying to back track and pretend your not freeman but suddenly the rest of the world is..

sorry dude but YOU ARE THE ONE quoting freeman stuff.. no one else JUST YOU

now here is a tip for your escape route out of your beliefs of the limited freeman stuff
research tresspass and contracts
these are part of common and constitutional law. and you should start to see the flaws of your previous freeman rhetoric once you open yourself up to stuff outside your freeman box

happy researching.
and no need to reply with any more random defensive waffle. just do the research
12359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Your thoughts about Greta Thunberg on: December 07, 2019, 03:52:12 AM
water vapour is not just about the cloud layer. its also the ground level evaporation that takes heat with it

EG
put a puddle of oil on the ground  and beside it a puddle of water.  the water takes the heat away from the ground much faster

rain forests are called such because the ecological effects have more of a water impact than a carbon impact


climate change is about water cycle and carbon sulphur and other toxins is the lung/life health of animals and plants
its why in a smoggy city vs a country field even though carbon has alot higher result in the city, the temperature is not to the same degree higher. however people can breathe easier in the country than the city

anyways
until greta and major population actually get to a point and come up with solutions people like greta are just finger pointing while getting rich on sponsored tours and paid guest speakers. which isnt actually going to solve the issue
12360  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Nearly $10 billion worth of BTC moved in just 15 minutes? on: December 07, 2019, 12:10:04 AM
its not a user with that much funds.. its an exchange changing its cold wallet holdings

not newsworthy as it happen regularly. just usually done in 10k btc batches spread out

its not a exchange public market affector.. but more so of just background exchange admin
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