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12381  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: October 23, 2019, 10:39:49 PM
Not a single surprise this week.
Every single big team won their match, Inter saved his chance to advance but they are still in bad spot, same as Napoli.

Yes, Inter has secured its position to go ahead after winning against Dortmund, but I am sure Inter will secure its position to become runner up, Dortmund will be a serious competitor in this position. About Napoli, I think it's a very safe position or spot because in group E, Napoli and Liverpool will certainly continue to go further. So I'm not sure they are in a bad spot.
12382  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Money is Dirty Money on: October 23, 2019, 09:51:25 PM
For old people they believe that its a dirty money so every one will stay out of gambling, but for modern people they don't think it as dirty money,some people play using calculations and strategy, so they do hard work of research to make profit, so I don't consider gambling money as dirty money, dirty money is money that come from doing criminal things and I don't see gambling as a criminal activity
In fact, many gamblers are old people and not all old people consider gambling to be dirty money, and similarly to modern people, not all of them gamble and there are some modern people who think gambling is dirty money. So in this matter at least the crime is a cause of gambling itself if indeed the gambler does not have control because of the pressure in defeat and bankruptcy, but the meaning of dirty money is money that comes from gambling itself and not the cause of gambling.
12383  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [CHALLENGE] Who wants to be a millionaire ? on: October 23, 2019, 08:59:50 PM
Such a strategy is only good for those who have high patience, I have talked about strategies like this before and when you only look for odds of 1.02 then any type of bet you can do such as dice, sports or whatever gambling that at least has low odds like that. But in reality most gamblers play gambling because they have their own reasons like getting a quick profit, therefore as you have said also this is about patience and not about skills and experience as the most important. One other thing that must be considered is about luck, I have experienced bad luck repeatedly implementing strategies like this in parlay, because not always low odds will guarantee winning and profit in betting.
12384  Economy / Services / Re: Need someone who can help me with a KYC verification, I offer BTC on: October 22, 2019, 10:16:21 PM
It's not easy to get that and you also don't explain in detail about the purpose, where KYC is going, whether for exchange, airdrop etc., as many questions have been asked before. I suggest you to follow the way that harizen has said is the easiest way, you just need to talk to him honestly about the true purpose so as not to make him worry and crack in your friendship or anyone who has good relations with you.
12385  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: ETH return to 1000 USD after hardfork? on: October 22, 2019, 09:12:23 PM
Requires extra patience to be able to wait for a return to ethereum in the near future. I myself am so sure that with ethereum I have also begun to feel anxious about the conditions of the last few months that ethereum has no significant price changes. even the price is stuck with that value
If you assume that, then not only is ethereum stuck in the same value so far, even the value of bitcoin is only moving in the same range even though sometimes there are shocking pumps and very alarming decreases. The difference is indeed very visible, but at least we just need to be patient and after all the increase to achieve this value will not happen this year and we fully only expect that next year will be better, because in the last quarter it seems unlikely that there will be a big pump occur.
12386  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Bittrex is closing down in 31 countries on: October 22, 2019, 06:14:20 PM
Good info. My country isn't on the list so I'm very lucky, and besides I don't have a lot of coins stored there because in the past I lost a lot of old coins there, like RDD, MONA and many more, I lost access to the old Bittrex account because of a mistake about security and that's why I no longer keep a lot of coins on the exchange. There are still many exchange platforms available and I don't think that is a problem for the countries listed.
12387  Economy / Speculation / Re: what do you think is the best rate price for btc? on: October 22, 2019, 03:27:50 PM
Back to 12k then stay there for another year.  Grin

It has gone there and stayed for a long time and maybe that should happen again and be the bottom price.
There might be a lot who will say it is too expensive but that is how it should be.
Usage, trust and demand, all of those are what makes bitcoin as whole and it is happening whether we like it or not.


I am sure many people want to see that price again Grin

We already wait for a long time to see that price, and although it's already reached that price, unfortunately, we know the price went down and down like today. But we still have a hope to see the price will increase higher in the next month or the next year and the sign of breaking the higher rate will appear to us. So it's better to prepare and don't forget to buy as much bitcoin as you can but still remember, only use the money you can.
At least it can last for a long time in the range of 10k I think it is good enough to be the lowest price, because when the price sits below 10k we only get a decline that is stronger than the increase and even that cannot be maintained. Indeed many people expect that value to be stable for at least a few months, but in reality this market has very high fluctuations and indeed cannot be stabilized as expected.
12388  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy now Bitcoin today on: October 22, 2019, 08:49:30 AM
This is all bullocks. How can you tell anyone to buy bitcoin now when we are approaching November in the fourth quarter of the year? I don't think that is a good idea. You can only advise people to buy bitcoin in the fourth quarter of the year when is there is an active bull run in the market. If there is no bull run in the market, it is too risky because the winter is coming.
Basically we are in the fourth quarter and if you notice the chart and follow to buy it when the thread is made, you will indeed benefit because prices have risen so far, but to reach 9k this month seems impossible and let's wait for the next month from the last quarter of this year hopefully there will be more significant growth.
12389  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: WHEN ETHEREUM KEEPS DISAPPOINTING on: October 22, 2019, 07:05:43 AM
people still believe that ethereum is proven to be the second largest ethereum trading volume on coinmarketcap. although currently the ICO platform uses less ETH than in 2017. we know that USDT is now using ETH smartcotract, meaning that USDT developers know better than using the ERC20 network than OMNI.
The ethereum platform has declined as the use of project funding due to many cases of fraud and the shift from ICO to IEO. that makes the price or even at this time even though the volume of trade remains large, but prices from ethereum such as difficulty rising,since 2018 I've seen this
Whatever happens ethereum still has the potential to continue to rise, now we can not only see the ethereum which is worrying because many of the coins there experience the same thing if we only see it difficult to rise higher, even bitcoin continues to get corrections that look very difficult to continue to increase. The bullish trend hasn't come yet and the pump so far has only been temporary, so with this situation it's possible that many of us will be disappointed and it's hard to make a choice, but anyway we just need to be patient longer.
12390  Economy / Economics / Re: Why Bitcoin is not that good as currency? on: October 20, 2019, 10:26:51 PM
I totally agree with this. We cannot completely replace fiat, even if it is controlled by the government. People would only hoard since it's value is high and deflation causes value of products to lessen. Bitcoin is not suitable as currency, it's more of a medium of exchange, speculative investment and platform for day traders. It's not meant to replace fiat. I think the main purpose of bitcoin is to transact securely across the world without too much limitations and fees needed to pay.
very true that you say in your opinion fiat currency is currently still the best than cryptocurrency maybe it is caused by legality problems and maybe if the crypto currency is recognized as a valid currency of course cryptocurrency will be better still more developed
It has been said that there is deflation that makes cryptocurrency different from fiat currencies, and not only about legality because when it comes to legality I think bitcoin has become popular in many countries and continues to grow and develop with adoption, it proves that legality is not a big problem anymore for cryptocurrency, because with the adoption of at least cryptocurrency has been recognized but still not enough to be declared as a currency.
12391  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is investing in crypto a good idea? on: October 20, 2019, 09:53:41 PM
Agree, crypto investment is most risky, assets can be lost in a short time, of course if we aim for long term then buying top 10 coins is the right choice than new listed coins.
You'll lose if you have invested to the wrong coins. Like those coins that has no volume and you're too ambitious to buy these coins making yourself believe that when the bull run comes, these coins will pump and you'll be a millionaire. But if you have invested to the right ones, you can lose some but the possibility of earning is there too. That mistakes has been done many times and told in this section so learning from those people can benefit us. Being on short too doesn't guarantee profit nor losses, depends on how good you are in both through your strategy.
Basically, the investment will guarantee profits, but if you start randomly, then of course it is a risky investment, because investing with FOMO and not accompanied by good confidence will result in bad results even though you still get a return, but it is not an expected return because the value of your money decreases. So in investing in crypto at least we can start with money that is ready to be lost if indeed we start it in new coins that still have low prices.
12392  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Savings Vs Investment? on: October 20, 2019, 08:37:30 PM
Inflation will not make our savings decrease so I think saving and investing are a good way for future goals, try not to be greedy in terms of wealth because if you rely only on wealth you will continue to feel deprived because of inflation. When you are satisfied with the benefits of savings and investment, it will be fine for your finances.
12393  Economy / Speculation / Re: Time to buy Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2019, 08:24:54 PM
The current price ranging below $8k and we couldn't foretell about bitcoin when is the time for surging high. Possibly it might go down further in my opinion, but as we experience it could rise again. Though, we already seen this volatility in bitcoin but being patience could makes us hope about this market condition. If we could take the risks from buying then it’s time and waits until we catch the price increase to take profit.
But in reality the decline does not continue and that is the opposite, prices are currently being pumped and indeed when prices are lower than 8k it is like a concern to go down further. Waiting for the right time to buy is difficult because when prices can go up and down quickly at least it will make a mistake for us to make a decision. So in this case it would be better to buy it immediately when the price is struggling at the lowest point in personal view, because if it just continues to wait for a lower price I think that is a way that might be said to be wrong.
12394  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Smart hodling vs just hodling on: October 20, 2019, 06:47:55 PM
We are talking about Bitcoin currency here therefore smart and just holding are both applicable for Bitcoin investment. Choosing Bitcoin is a smart choice because it is proven the most potential and the  promising investment to make your money grow therefore it is worth holding for short and long term investments.

Yes, investing in Bitcoin and holding it for long term should be our goal for now, doing short term is fine too for as long as we do have fund applicable for long term too, so that we can have profit for short term and long term. We don't know what will happen in the future, so better to have both as long term investment in Bitcoin can bring us more profit, but keep in mind there is no guarantee about it too.
A good return guarantee is indeed something that is very desirable and when you choose bitcoin for the long term then of course it is the right decision, as you said before long and short investments in bitcoin at least it is an investment that guarantees you profit, not care about how long you can be patient holding bitcoin, because the price of bitcoin will always go up and down and that is your guarantee to get a profit.
12395  Economy / Economics / Re: Millennial generation are screwed! on: October 20, 2019, 05:37:53 PM
The millennial generation currently spends a lot of time in online games and when there are Esports tournaments that's where they assume they will get money, but not all gamers have that skill and fully only spend their time on things like this. Not many millennial generations are interested in something that is difficult to understand like crypto because I've found a some of them about this case.
12396  Economy / Economics / Re: The 2nd generation of banking is going digital on: October 20, 2019, 03:42:43 PM
Being digital is certain, if traditional banks are maintained then of course old or traditional banks will be easy to be replaced by a more digital financial system, the development of the era has proved that the digital era can work faster without wasting too much time on anything. So it is very possible that each bank will continue to update the system so that it becomes more digital so it is not easily replaced and continues to make competition tighter.
12397  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buy now or wait for Bitcoin? on: October 20, 2019, 03:11:51 PM
My trading mentor said that I should not believe to the trading tips about the right time of purchasing a token. You will probably lose your money if you will follow the tips of fake gurus in the internet. It is better if you will just trust yourself.
So having a mentor or not is not the main thing because believing in yourself will be a good decision even though the results are not always good, and about when the right time to buy bitcoin I think it depends on your own goals. The price of bitcoin now seems to require us to wait for a lower price but that goes back to our goal, because in investment there are terms about the long and short term. So whatever your goals, then you alone can determine when the right time to buy.
12398  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling as a profession: there's people who live out of gambling? on: October 19, 2019, 08:51:19 PM
obviously it will be difficult if you only rely on gambling as the main source to make a living. to win gambling, most people only rely on luck
That's wrong, although its difficult but it's not impossible to win in gambling, if you rely on luck, you won't simply be making a living in gambling.

In order for you to win, you need to rely on your skills and the reality would tell that there are only few people who have the skills to make a living in gambling, and I am sure the casinos are aware of that but do they care? of course not, what they care is that they win in overall which they can pretty easily do.
Thus the point is that not all gamblers are able to make gambling a part of the profession, because basically gambling is game of luck and even though you have good skills in gambling, there are times when you will get a bad incident when betting. In that case indeed every profession would at least have good and bad situations, but in gambling I only felt that gambling was filled with pressure and greed until finally it only ended with loss and it was difficult to move on when we had no other source income.
12399  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: La Liga (Spanish League) Prediction Thread 2019/20 on: October 19, 2019, 07:56:20 PM
RCD Mallorca - Real Madrid
Real Madrid are under pressure due to their poor result in champions league. Modrich, Kroos, Bale, Vazquez and Nacho are all injured and this make the game difficult for Real Madrid. Despite of these facts I predict Real Madrid to win the game. Mallorca is on 18th place of the table and has only won one game, So I decided to bet on Real Madrid. I also bet on under 3.5

Maybe Real Madrid will win against Mallorca which is very much different, if until Real Madrid loses an embarrassing match for its supporters, I believe Madrid is able to fulfill spectacular goals against Mallorca later.

LOL Mallorca just scored in the 7th minute  Cheesy This quick goal makes Mallorca players confident and vice versa Madrid players depressed
There is no other choice Madrid must wait in the second round for cameback
It seems that it is still possible for Real Madrid to win the match because Madrid's statistics still dominate the field, but if Mallorca is able to play with a defensive formation well until the game is over, then the statistics are meaningless again and again big clubs are still very influential on big players too.
12400  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: If You Win Big Will You Remember Your Losses on: October 19, 2019, 06:32:36 PM
If you keep on remembering all your losses every time you win, you will just get disappointed, and subconsciously you will just end up hoping to lose because the memory of all your losses, or the funds that you've lost will just keep on coming back, live the moment, if you win enjoy and cherish it, it's a blessing, if you lose come back and hope to be better but of course bet what you can afford to lose.
Remembering your losses every win, it happens for some gamblers that just want to realize how much they've won and loss in total. But overall losses, I don't think that's something to be remembered anymore. If it's already too much, there's no need to think about it. Forget about the losses and just sum up to your total wins unless you are too conservative with those.
Motivated to take back losses is an improper way for some gamblers, because we cannot assume that the loss is the source of increasing suffering. Basically remembering losses is good so we have control when betting so as not to bet with greed, and for me personally it seems like losses need not be remembered anymore because for me it is a burden that will create pressure when betting.
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