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1241  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: April 23, 2020, 12:37:09 PM
Lots of trade rumours flying around now. This goes from the Falcons trading up all the way to #2 to get Young, from the Dolphins jumping to #3 to get an OT for Tua while keeping their #5 pick to get him to the Giants having found a trade partner in Jacksonville. Jets also apparently looking to move up, to get an OT - these OT's seem to be highly valued and needed by a lot of teams Grin This is good and entertaining to follow, but I guess only 1% of all those rumours will become reality. Even saw rumours about Herbert getting picked by the Giants, which would be hilarious in terms of dynamics in this draft.



I hope Lamb is available at #13!  Grin

You have it in your own hands maybe Wink


Source: https://www.betonline.ag/sportsbook/futures-and-props/nfl-draft
1242  Economy / Gambling / Re: Confirmed Sports Picks~ Daily profit (20 free trials before paid version) on: April 23, 2020, 11:40:37 AM
(...) , though he most likely abbandoned the account .

Think so too, especially after that weird PM DireWolf got. In the beginning he looked like a Corona-bored kid seeking for attention and wanting to make some money, without the intent to scam people by its very definiton. To a certain extent I still believe in that, but that said PM speaks different, so I supported the flag and hope you will get your money back @Hurley27.
1243  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: [Diskussion] - [IOTA] - Erste blockchainlose Kryptowährung designed für das IdD on: April 23, 2020, 11:06:21 AM
Sind die Streitereien mittlerweile vorbei oder wenigstens außerhalb der Öffentlichkeit?

Vor den Kulissen ist es ruhig, ob das hinter den Kulissen auch so ist ? Ich bezweifel es Grin

Zu der oben erwähnten sharding Lösung von Moog, hatte CfB neulich mal gepostet, dass es eben doch wie Vitalik ist und nicht funktioniert. Wer da nun recht hat, wird average joe wohl kaum beurteilen können, also auch ich nicht.




Quelle: jeweils Paracosm Discord



In dem oben geposteten Artikel von Alabasta steht u.a. das hier:

Quote
Die Technologie befindet sich zwar immer noch in der Erforschung, dennoch sei sie reif genug, um offen diskutiert zu werden.
Quelle: https://www.crypto-news-flash.com/de/iota-stiftung-lueftet-geheimnis-um-ihre-sharding-skalierungsloesung/

Eine "offene Diskussion" ist halt extrem weit weg von dem, was, bei erfolgreicher Implementation, dann ein Preistreiber sein wird. IOTA wird noch einige Zeit rumdümpeln und von anderen Projekten outperformed werden. Deshalb kann man mMn Teile umschichten, IOTAs verkaufen und in andere Sachen/Kryptos investieren, um dann später ggf. zurückzukommen und sogar mehr IOTA zu haben. Nicht alles, denn man weiss nie, aber Teile.
1244  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 23, 2020, 08:59:05 AM
I think they play only with a negative test before the game, so all player can play without a fear of encounter.

Yes, but a risk remains, because they don't get tested like 5 minutes before the game and will have the result at kick-off. They will probably get tested a day or two before the game and could catch the virus afterwards. But anyway, there is no 100% with this virus.


Maybe also the whole staff and Tv teams in the stadium?

I heard there will be around 300 people present in the stadiums (players, staff, ballboys, security, TV people etc.)


Anyone who does sport know that a playing with mask isn't possible  Grin.

Correct. We had this discussion already starting here.
1245  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: April 22, 2020, 11:22:58 AM
Yo, what just happened, Gronk coming off retirement?

I like that Smiley Makes that division even more exciting. He is still young-ish, but injury-prone. Don't expect him to be as good as in his prime for sure, but his presence on the field alone should help the Bucs in every regard. And Brady trusts him I guess.



Have placed another bet based on some recent information/rumours I found.

First 3 Wide Receivers Drafted - Exact Order

1. Lamb 2. Juedy 3. Ruggs 3.30    
1. Jeudy 2. Lamb 3. Ruggs 3.60    
1. Jeudy 2. Ruggs 3. Lamb 9.00    
1. Ruggs 2. Lamb 3. Jeudy 9.00    
1. Ruggs 2. Jeudy 3. Lamb 11.00    
1. Lamb 2. Jeudy 3. Jefferson 13.00    
1. Jeudy 2. Lamb 3. Jefferson 15.00    
1. Jeudy 2. Ruggs 3. Jefferson 23.00    
1. Lamb 2. Ruggs 3. Jefferson 23.00 Stake 1/10 betonline
1. Ruggs 2. Jeudy 3. Jefferson 34.00    
1. Ruggs 2. Lamb 3. Jefferson 34.00    

And:

Jeudy draft position: over 12.5 @2.30 Stake: 4/10 William Hill

Lamb, Juedy and Ruggs are the three top receivers in this draft and all are projected to go 10-15. Justin Jefferson is relatively sure to get picked somewhere 20-25, with some others like Reagor, Aiyuk, Mims, Higgins not far behind.

Rumours are some undisclosed knee issues from Juedy:


Source: https://twitter.com/NatalieEgenolf/status/1252659070978457601

Now there are always rumours and smokescreens and to trust on these being true, is foolish. But the over 12.5 is the main bet and carries some value imo, since all mock drafts point to over 12.5 and odds are good with 2.30. The other bet is a little gamble in case there is indeed some truth behind these rumours.
1246  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread on: April 21, 2020, 03:16:30 PM
they are prepared for almost any critical situation,

I had a critical situation with you at the poker tables on the weekend and looks like I wasn't prepared at all, because you eliminated me Grin



I think it's fine to start Bundesliga again. When you are doing 100k+ tests per day and constantly increase that number, 20k+ additional tests over a span of several weeks really shouldn't be an issue. It's all about money in the end and weighing the options/risks. TV broadcaster has already made the fourth and last payment to DFL (and thus to the teams), so they are surely putting some pressure on. And there are lots of other contracts, that would lead to mayhem if conditions aren't met in case the season is cancelled.

Lots of teams are on life support financially imo, so any money they can make, is appreciated.

1247  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: April 20, 2020, 08:32:17 PM
Have gone through some Mock Drafts, to check how is the sentiment among those experts. They are as much in the dark as everyone else of course, so these Mock Drafts are just some fun. When even 95% of the teams have no idea whom they will actually draft, how should anyone else know Grin I do believe a bit in swarm intelligence though, so I have placed some bets for the Draft. Follow at your own risk, but tbh I don't recommend to follow at all. All played with smallish stakes.



Highest Drafted Edge Rusher (only these three count for this bet):

Josh Uche 1.68    
Julian Okwara 2.75    
Terrell Lewis 5.50 Stake 3/10 Betonline

Pretty high odds imo. I expect all three of them to go early-mid 2nd round, lets see, who will be the first. Terrell Lewis is Alabama guy and teams like to pick players from their defense.



Will Austin Jackson be a 1st Round Pick?

Yes 1.28    
No 3.25 Stake 2/10 Betonline

Some have him getting drafting in the 20's, some don't have him drafted in first round. Odds for No are just too good here, since there are lots of better OT's in this draft and not every team will take an OT.



Which Pick Will Andrew Thomas be Drafted

Under 10½ Pick 1.62    
Over 10½ Pick 2.20 Stake 1/10 Betonline

This is a close one. Wirfs, Willis will go before him. Bectons stock has gone down due to some drug issue I think, but he could go before Thomas as well nevertheless. Most have him go 10-14 range and with these odds, I'll take my chances.



Total Players from Clemson Drafted in Round 1

Over 1½ Players Drafted 1.22    
Under 1½ Players Drafted 3.75 Stake 2/10 Betonline

Isaiah Simmons is a lock for R1. Then you have a CB and a WR from Clemson, that could go late first round, but there are so many players and on top always some surprise picks (hopefully not from Clemson Grin ). Good odds.



Will probably add some more in the next days, but thats it for now. Good luck, if you place any bets too, should be a fun draft Cheesy


Source: https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1252287112147349505



In case you missed it, Sportsbet has two Promos for the Draft running, which you can join for small money and win good amounts of BTC:

https://sportsbet.io/promotions/nfl-draft-multi-master
https://sportsbet.io/promotions/sportsguru-nfl-draft

1248  Economy / Reputation / Re: Cleobet: Another betb2b (1xbet/1xbit) clone - Flag to be supported on: April 20, 2020, 03:38:42 PM
Code777 often opens topics asking about experience about XY and then locks it immediately - doesn't seem to be too keen on getting answers to his questions Wink

Here is a topic about Paysera, that is locked as well by him, without any responses. And looking at this post, he does not seem to be a newbie with Paysera:


Source: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237821

Code777 just opened another topic about paysera and immediately locking it afterwards, not looking for any answers to his questions again: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5242096

1249  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Discussion] X-Raying Paid Tipsters Services on: April 20, 2020, 11:00:41 AM
was hoping for a discussion regarding tagging paid tipsters who don't track properly as well

This thread can be a general one for anything related to paid tipsters here in this forum, but also for external ones. Tipsters not present in this forum, can certainly not get tagged, but maybe potential customers for that service, can be made aware of services not being honest through this thread. If a user is not tracking his picks, even after request, and keeps on advertising in this forum, I am not sure if a tag is justified. It would just be an assumption, that the user is probably being dishonest, while everything still might be ok and the user is just lazy or not bothering. Every legit service (even if unsuccesful) will do a proper tracking even without request though, so that is that. Difficult.

This table tennis guy had a bit of a strange business model by just wanting to participate in the profits his "customers" made. He announced to pay/refund his sole customer, lets see. Don't think he is a scammer (just a kid looking for attention), but he was verifiably dishonest and thus you tagging him is warranted. 



This thread was opened recently: Sports Betting of the year | Table Tennis | My daily tip to earn huge

Looks very much like him again with a new nick: Confirmed Sports Picks~ Daily profit (20 free trials before paid version)

Lets see, how this unfolds.
1250  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tracing with Blogabet, is it good? on: April 20, 2020, 10:16:29 AM
Haven't heard of site like that, is it a crypto based gambling site or fiat ?
Anyways, i suggest to be cautious when betting to unknown gambling sites especially if they've haven't posted their ANN thread here in Bitcointalk that's my primary basis to know if a gambling site is legit. If they have representatives here and a signature campaign, it increases their reputation to other customers as well.

It's no bookmaker or whatever and you don't have to pay to use it. It's the biggest site I know of, where users post their picks (in their own blogs) and where they are tracked with next to no possibility to cheat. There is a lot of garbage and abandoned blogs, but also some quite successful tipsters. Some years ago, blogabet introduced the possibility to monetize your blog, by making a paid service out of it.

Very good site to track your bets and make yourself a name, if you plan to go for paid service in the future.

As always, when you look to join a paid service, take your time to monitor things first. Don't get impressed by numbers. Even a blog that looks very successful at first sight, can be on downward trend and lose you money (on top of the fee you have to pay to access the picks).
1251  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: April 20, 2020, 09:59:45 AM
Nimm das Folgende bitte nicht persönlich. Jeder so wie er kann und mag, wie es die Zeit erlaubt und je nach persönlicher Kosten-Nutzen-Einschätzung. Nimm es als Hilfestelllung, wenn es dir auf die Nerven geht, dass du Schwierigkeiten hast, in BTC Kampagnen unterzukommen. Denn auch wenn die Bounty Manager die Entscheidungsfreiheit haben, so hast du es zu einem großen Teil doch selbst in der Hand - sei so gut, dass sie nicht an dir vorbeikommen Smiley

schad ehab es wieder niergends reingeschafft so langsam nervt es ^^.
das ich in keine btc bounty mehr rein komme  Roll Eyes

Wenn es dir die potentielle, zukünfitge Bezahlung wert ist, dann investiere etwas mehr Effort in deine Posts. Achte auf Groß- und Kleinschreibung, auf Interpunktion, formatiere deine Posts ein wenig, mach sie ansprechend - das Auge liest mit. Versuche nicht immer nur kurze Beiträge zu schreiben, sondern setz dich ich auch mal hin und schreibe etwas mehr. Eröffne Threads mit interessanten Themen, die einigermaßen gut strukturiert sind, füge vielleicht Bilder/Grafiken ein, die Leute schauen gerne Bildchen an und Visualisierung hilft immer. Versuche auch, an deinem englisch zu arbeiten, da ja viele Bounties auch Posts im internationalen Bereich verlangen - somit hast du einen größeren Pool potentieller Kampagnen, an denen du teilnehmen kannst. Es muss kein perfektes englisch sein. Die wenigsten User (inklusive meiner Wenigkeit) sprechen perfektes englisch, aber es sollte einigermaßen verständlich und ansprechend (s.o.) sein.

Du hattest dich ja bei FortuneJack beworben. Vergleiche mal die post history von einem User, der akzeptiert wurde, mit deiner post history:

tranthidung
hanspeter77

Wenn du der Manager wärst - wen würdest du nehmen ?

Das was tranthidung macht kostet natürlich sehr viel Zeit. Zeit, die er sich nimmt, um in derlei Kampagnen akzeptiert zu werden. Du könntest in diesen Kampagnen auch angenommen werden, aber du musst die Zeit investieren. Wenn du dies tust - und es dir das wert ist - dann wirst du in Zukunft auch in solchen Kampagnen angenommen werden; einfach bisschen Geduld haben. Viel Glück Smiley


Quelle: http://www.dumpaday.com/quotes/quotes-of-the-day-11-pics-15/attachment/quotes-9-283/
1252  Local / Announcements (Deutsch) / Re: [ANN][ICO] ⭐ XAYA - Echtes Blockchain Gaming - Mainnet live on: April 19, 2020, 12:24:20 PM
Kurzes Update:

SME beta ist letzten Dienstag gestartet und die Resonanz ist bisher gut. Es gibt natürlich einige Bugs, nichts Dramatisches, hauptsächlich UI bugs. Viele Tester sind crypto-newbies, daher gab es einige Probleme mit dem Wallet und der entsprechenden Verbindung zum Spiel. Aber alle sind letztendlich drin. Noch während der Beta wird es ein Update geben, wo User dann das Spiel one-click starten können mit Lite-Client und Xaya Electrum wallet - alles ohne syncen.

Erster Spieltag wurde gestern gespielt, hab leider nur ein 0-0 ermauert, aber gab schon Manager-Gehalt und Dividenden auf meine Club- und Spielershares in Form von Soccer Manager Coins (SMC), die ich dann gleich in weitere Anteile investiert hab; macht süchtig Grin

Ein australischer Tester macht tägliche Videos und dokumentiert seine Laufbahn als Manager eines englischen Zweitliga-Teams:


Quelle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHfYo7CNw0&feature=youtu.be

SME Beta Test Day 1
SME Beta Test Day 2
SME Beta Test Day 3
SME Beta Test Day 4



Die Taurion Homepage wurde überarbeitet und erscheint jetzt im neuen Design:


Quelle: https://taurion.io/

Neben der vielen Arbeit mit SME arbeitet das Xaya team auch weiterhin fleissig an Taurion und meines Wissens wird auch eine weitere Competition folgen, die dann schon sehr nah am Endprodukt sein sollte. Aber nicht vor dem Sommer diese Competition denke ich.



Lange Zeit gab es keine Möglichkeit, Xaya bzw. CHI auf Coinmarketcap zu listen, da eine zweite Exchange, die von CMC getrackt wird, fehlte. Citex hat vor einiger Zeit CHI gelistet und sie selber sind nun nach langer Warterei mit ihrem Listing auf CMC durch. Demnach steht einem Listing von Xaya dann auch nichts mehr im Wege - ausser dem ganzen Papierkram, der natürlich auch seine Zeit braucht. Diese request form von CMC gleicht schon einem full body MRT scan, aber ist gut und gerechtfertigt, soll ja auch alles seine Ordnung haben.

1253  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: April 18, 2020, 11:05:41 PM
(...) and I do not remember the last time the New York Giants traded down on the first round(you probably remember this better than I do), (...)

Now you made me curious Smiley I looked up all drafts back to the Eli Manning draft; I am not very good with memorizing these things tbh. Giants have never traded up or down in the first round since then, apart from 2006 where they traded down with the Steelers and then took Mathias Kiwanuka ( Cool ) with the 32nd pick. 

I think both, the Lions and Giants, are in a great position to trade down and accumulate some more picks. Regarding the Giants, they will look for OT help and this years draft is stacked with good ones (Wirfs, Wills, Becton, Thomas), so you can find your guy with some lower pick too. Lions would love to get Okudah, but if they for example trade down with the Chargers, they will still get him. I am not sure, if I would take a CB at #3 anyway tbh. The transition for CBs from College to NFL is pretty tough and it takes a long time until they have adapted. I don't think CBs are that important and it's a lot of trial and error with them Cheesy There are more important positions imo, where you should spend your high first round picks on.

Off Topic: I think two weeks ago I saw you were close to rank up and now you have finally done it, so congratulations on reaching Legendary rank in such a rapid fashion. Smiley

Thank you. I actually got some help for the last steps from iasenko, and Welsh then making it happen with a little merit shower. Added some thoughts here.
1254  Economy / Gambling / Re: Bitcointalk SwC Championship Poker Series(50 mBtc added by SwC) on: April 18, 2020, 05:44:35 PM
I have big problems with SwC page today. I get disconnected and then when it connects me again I can't sit back on the table. I have to close the browser and re-log again. Anybody with same problems or some trick to solve it without re-login.

Are you playing via browser ? I would try to download the client, never had issues with it: https://swcpoker.eu/download
1255  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 🏈🏈 The American Football Discussion Thread 🏈🏈 on: April 18, 2020, 02:57:02 PM
Wonderlic scores were published:


Source: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/2020-nfl-draft-wonderlic-test-scores-revealed-tua-tagovailoa-ranks-lowest-among-quarterbacks-per-report/

Although they don't say a lot regarding NFL careers, I always find it interesting to look at these scores. And it surely influences the teams, if they are undecided between two or more players. Having said that, Tagovailoa really hasn't good arguments with that score and considering the uncertainty regarding his hip.

-

I have placed a bet on Justin Herbert being picked under 5.5 at William Hill for @2.15. Betonline has 1.83/1.83 for that one, so I expect these odds to carry some value just on paper, since betonline is sharper in regards to NFL imo and Will Hill maybe failed to adjust.

1) Bengals: Burrow is a lock
2) Redskins: Young is a lock
3) Lions: CB Okudah most likely
4) Giants: OT 80% or that LB Simmons
5) Dolphins: QB
6) Chargers:QB

Dolphins/Chargers will fight for Tagovailoa and Herbert, but I think Herbert will get picked before Tagovailoa, so normally #5, if no trades happen. I wouldn't rule out some team like the Raiders doing a big move to get one of them either. Lions and Giants can easily trade down a bit and still get players that suit their needs. Getting a good QB is not easy, so teams are willing to give up a lot to get their guy. If Chargers are really on high on Herbert, which I think they are, they might consider a trade with the Giants too to jump in front of the Dolphins. Lets see.
1256  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: US Presidential Election 2020 on: April 18, 2020, 11:43:26 AM
But today I think it's obvious that Trump is going to win the elections. Well, it's not 100%, but 95% I'd say.

That is quite a lot and would transfer to ~1.05 odds. I'll give you a value bet and offer 1.10 odds, you can stake any amount you want Wink

I hate betting with the outcome odds less than 2.00. First off, it's too painful to lose such a bet; secondly, you can't win much in the case of winning.

But otoh you win more often with lower odds.



I honestly thought that all the happenings in the US would have some more impact on the presidential markets in general. Looks like whatever bad news there are, the odds are not really bothered with it. A little bit up and down, but nothing major. The economical consequences will fully show up at a later point, maybe starting in summer, and this will hopefully be the starting point for some new dynamics.
1257  Economy / Gambling discussion / [Discussion] X-Raying Paid Tipsters Services on: April 18, 2020, 10:48:39 AM
Inspired by this post from @SyGambler and with his "permission", I am opening this thread to discuss and analyze paid tipsters in here. A lot of them are regularly showing up in the gambling section and promoting their services.

Whether you sould sign up for paid tipping services or not, is up to you. Good and longterm profitable services are very rare. The majority is using a recent good run to earn some extra money, but they are not really successful gamblers. Don't get fooled by buzz words and false promises, take your time to monitor the tipster, their style of betting and draw your conclusions. Check the verifiable history (if any) and don't get FOMOed by instantly jumping in, just because of recent good results. A good service will make you money longterm, so take your time to evaluate. The (weekly/monthly/yearly) price is also something to consider, especially if you are no high-roller, it might eat a good amount of your winnings.

This thread is not only restricted to services promoted in this forum. If you stumble across some interesting one, just post it and we can all have a look, what it is about. Don't use this thread to extensively promote your own tipping service - make your own thread for that - but feel free to engage in discussions about your or other users services. Self-moderated for obvious reasons.



My Top3 of what a paid tipster has to offer, apart from being profitable of course:

  • Honesty and transparency
  • Reasonable prices
  • Liquid markets/leagues or max amount of subscribers




I'll start with a service that was promoted here in recent weeks/months and which I followed and still follow, without having subscribed: Sport X Tipster's Betting Predictions | +65% WR | +$300K Overall PROFIT !!!

Thread title is already a bit lurid, but well. I basically only followed what they were doing from the point they showed up here. Football was still running and they were doing ok-ish. Very responsive and friendly in their thread and with ok-ish write-ups/reasonings. They had some questionable bets, or rather the staking was off imo, for CL matches, which put them in the red. When leagues were suspended they lost themselves in these little leagues still running and faded badly. They are now desperately trying to go green again on their blogabet by overstaking heavily:


Source: https://sportxtipster.blogabet.com/

While I would have given them a pass with trying their luck in these small leagues during Corona, this overstaking is a big no-no for me. This is very unprofessional and not what any semi-ambitious punter is looking for. Shows me, they are not in it for the long run and thus not interesting for me. They are no scammers whatsoever, but I don't think this service will be profitable in the future, unless they change their approach and work on their staking.
1258  Local / Altcoins (Deutsch) / Re: welche bountys signaturen lohnen sich am meisten??? on: April 17, 2020, 03:26:04 PM
Ich kann auch bestätigen, dass efialtis mir bereits einen Teil zurückgezahlt hat.

Um dieses Thema auch noch öffentlich zum Abschluss zu bringen: efialtis hat mir nun alles auf Heller und Pfennig zurückgezahlt und sogar noch ein bisschen mehr - Ehrenmann wie die junge Generation sagt, vielen Dank Wink Für mich bestand daran auch kein Zweifel, es waren besondere Umstände, die für dieses Wirrwarr gesorgt haben. Insgesamt scheint es nach einem durchschrittenen Tal, wo wir alle mal durch müssen, wieder steil bergauf zu gehen und das freut mich persönlich.

Efialtis macht wirklich super viel in diesem und für dieses Forum und auch für viele User - oftmals hinter den Kulissen - und wir sollten froh sein, so einen tollen Menschen hier in unseren Reihen zu haben.
1259  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [GUIDE] Online Gambling Affiliate - Make Money Promoting Online Gambling on: April 17, 2020, 01:23:11 PM
~snip~

Very interesting.

Looks like revenue share is indeed the way go, if you are in for the long run. I understand 40% being kind of standard/good and that looks a lot to me - would have guessed it to be way lower. But I assume gambling operators can still make a pretty good living with 60% and in the end they need new players frequently (from their aff).

What I was thinking when reading your post: Wouldn't the decision between Rev/CPA also depend on the gambling site itself ? Talking about bookmakers, there is quite a difference quality-wise. With some bookmakers you are more likely to play a lot (Revenue) and with others you will play only once in a while (CPA). Does that make sense ?



What about winning players in revenue model ? No risk for affiliates ?
1260  Economy / Games and rounds / Re: Receive free bonus! on: April 17, 2020, 12:04:42 AM
Nice, Please clarify a little more, Is that means, If I want to get 50 mBTC Bonus then I have to roll over 10X before depositing 50 mBTC?? or I have to Roll over 10X times after deposit 50mBTC? Another thing, I've just noticed that there is no mobile version of your website.

You deposit 50mBTC and get 50mBTC on top, so you will have 100mBTC in your account. Initial deposit normally has be turned over once, while the bonus money has to be turned over 10x as OP stated. So you would have to stake at least 550mBTC @1.60+, before you can withdraw.

There were some issues with Malubit since they made their appearance in this forum here. I still haven't figured out, what is going on (i.e. who is right and who is wrong), so be careful. Kind of strange that OP chose to open a new thread, when he has his own thread here.

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