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12401  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 17, 2020, 07:36:25 PM
Wattage at the wall or Software?

software just for card.  at wall was about 260




new settings are better.


Model   
0: Evga RTX 3080 10GB
94.02.26.40.CC

Clocks
1395/10001

Hashrate
94.57 MH/s
Pwr
234 W software gpu only
274 W  at wall

°C/Fan
67°C/63%


core :   100
mem : 1500
watts : 235
temp :  70C
fan :    63%

notes

1 card rig
platinum psu
g4400t cpu

 


this is my card

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=10G-P5-3885-KR

note on back it has mixed caps which seem to work better.
12402  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 17, 2020, 07:19:30 PM
Well my local Microcenter has basically no stock of RX 5700XTs other than Sapphire brand. I know they're good cards but I like the longer 3 year warranty on the ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI cards and with AmEx that pushes them out to 4 years without having to return the card to Microcenter (place of purchase). Since they have very little stock I'm hoping they get a decent amount of cards that I can get 1 to test out.

I get my first of 3 3080's today.

I would love to get the 6000 series amd but I don't have much hope to buy 1.

OKAY my first 3080 has arrived.

I am running simple miner beta with the following clocks

Core MHz:        200
Memory MHz: 1400
Watts :             220

target temp :  70c
fans:              56%:


simple mining numbers

Evga RTX 3080 10GB
94.02.26.40.CC
Bus id: 02:00.0
Evga RTX 3080 10GB

GPU Bios: 94.02.26.40.CC
1065/9951
84.07 MH/s
219 W
70°C / 58%


12403  Economy / Speculation / Re: [WO] A (not so) minor note on miner incentives on: November 17, 2020, 06:04:08 PM


Incentives are aligned.  Taproot will help increase adoption and thus, increase Bitcoin’s value.  What selfish miner running a business on razor-thin margins would not want for Bitcoin’s technology to improve, especially in ways that increase transaction capacity?  The money must flow!

I think that the reason why incentives got misaligned with Segwit v0 was that it broke Jihan’s covert ASICBOOST.  This led Bitmain and Bitmain-dominated mining pools into an unholy forking alliance with malicious parties who wanted to fork-attack Bitcoin for other reasons.  (Not that Jihan wasn’t malicious—and not that he didn’t probably have multiple motives; I simply point out here that he had a short-term, stupidly myopic economic interest in protecting his covert ASICBOOST capability.)

Many miners also may have another reason to desire Schnorr, MuSig, Taproot, etc.:  Anything that increases Bitcoin’s blockchain privacy on a mass scale decreases the potential for coercive pressure on miners to join transaction-blacklisting, “KYC”-enforcing mining pools.

Just for a gut check, @philipma1957:  Would you prefer a future in which you may be coerced to use your hashpower to attack Bitcoin’s fungibility—or a future in which such attacks are less feasible, or (beyond Taproot-based technologies) even impossible?

Wow what a hard question to answer.

BTC is still an infant.

It is quite small. Well under 400,000,000,000 cap I think it is 327 billion at the moment.

So if I keep it hidden with clever tech do I attract many governments that attempt to shut me down ?


So is the wise path to play along until it gets too big to fail?

ie a 5 trillion market cap seems hard to attack. Especially if 4 trillion is in the hands of large investors.

So I am inclined to not go hidden and paint a target on my back when it comes to BTC.

I am pro shitcoin (just a few are needed) for this reason.

XMR or some other coin can be the sneaky coin that paints a target on its back.

LTC and Doge can do small transactions.

This thread has a lot of BTC maximumist (sp)  people I am not one of them.

  1 coin makes it easier for governments of the world to control.
 As in your question we know that governments will be doing this.

12404  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can Crypto be Good for Mass Adoption? on: November 17, 2020, 04:34:55 PM
There will always be if and buts when it comes to something that's not in our control. Today we saw bitcoin breach the 17000$ mark for the first time since 2018.

Now this begs the question, How can crypto be good for mass adoption? How can an average person buy Bitcoin(/s) when the price reaches a newer level? Many people have enjoyed(or should I use the word earned) free crypto (please stop Denying), Many have mined, Staked, Bought at the lowest of prices and so on. How can it be any good for the mass adoption when only a few (in comparison to the people around the world who are not yet into Crypto) have the crypto currency just because they are a bit early into the scene.

Now, It's not that I'm against anything, But the real problem that no one seems to care about is how can the wealth be distributed equally among all so that people (irrespective of being late) enjoy all the benefits equally And the majority of the funds are not controlled by few individuals.


Wish Someone could have thought about it.

You simply open a  set of 2 accounts

1) PayPal account and buy it.
2) Coinbase account and buy it.

12405  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 03:33:16 PM
The battle for 20K continues

Disagree it is not a battle.

Much like the tides or the rising and setting of the sun it just happens time and time again.

20k is a certainty.

25k-30k will be correction time.

with a strong, powerful, bigly rebound close to 78k late 2021.

Prepare for this!!
12406  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 17, 2020, 02:33:02 PM
Well my local Microcenter has basically no stock of RX 5700XTs other than Sapphire brand. I know they're good cards but I like the longer 3 year warranty on the ASUS, Gigabyte and MSI cards and with AmEx that pushes them out to 4 years without having to return the card to Microcenter (place of purchase). Since they have very little stock I'm hoping they get a decent amount of cards that I can get 1 to test out.

I get my first of 3 3080's today.

I would love to get the 6000 series amd but I don't have much hope to buy 1.
12407  Economy / Speculation / Re: Top 20 days for Bitcoin on: November 17, 2020, 02:30:19 PM
how about trimming back to 20 instead of 100?

actually I would prefer 200 but he said he can't get a good fix on it.

btw if we close over 15,000 today we break the longest 15k+ streak. which was 11 days back in dec 2017

we did it from the 11th to the 21st


today. we would be from nov 6 to nov 17 which would be an 11 day streak.
12408  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 02:26:33 PM
Quote
Thousands of cars lined up to collect food in Dallas, Texas, over the weekend, stretching as far as the eye can see.

Poor Americans are forced using their cars (on credit) to stand in a food line for hours and the crazy thing is they actually believe they live in the best country in the world.


https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/1328370997125410817
Reminds me of the gas lines in the 1970's. Sad, but this is what we call a "Republican" state. Kind of like the eurotrash you find in some countries in Europe.

What do you mean by "eurotrash"

they are the equivlant  of America's "poor white trash"

millions of both groups and used by rich bastards  to make the rich richer.
12409  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 01:05:07 PM
Breaking $17k / BTC at any moment...

Gogogogogogooooo

I can smell the $17k. It's almost there  Grin

and it is 17k+ at coin base
12410  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 17, 2020, 05:35:45 AM
6800 and 6800XT coming out in under 48 hours.
What sites or methods do you like to use?
I'm on Newegg, BestBuy, Walmart, Amazon and pricechecker sites.

I tried from Sept 17 to Nov 14 I finally got 3 3080's

and I won't say how or where I got them.  Other then they were a legal purchase.

I simply spent to much time to get them.
12411  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 17, 2020, 05:34:26 AM
Yes I got the Nicehash email also. You login and need to sign some form saying you clear them of any wrong-doing and you will get 100% of your amount back. However you need to wait until like Dec 16th 2020 or so. What's funny about all this is that I am pretty sure the day they got hacked Dec 7th, bitcoin was trading at ~$13000 and now its at a higher price than 3 years prior.

I remember getting their reimbursements when BTC was like $6K and thinking, they should just reimburse the USD amount of the hack since BTC value is halved pretty much however it looks like we will be in the green when we finally get out money back. I remember those were a good old days of mining. Something like $5/gpu/day with an RX 470 GPU. Probably not as good as Jan 2018 with some coins like ETH which probably made like $10/gpu/day on some 1080Ti GPUs but the profits sure were amazing back then.

to equal my btc mining price today needs to be 78k Grin

to equal my nicehash eth to btc mining price of eth today needs to 3220
12412  Economy / Speculation / Re: 111 days and daily candle on: November 17, 2020, 04:27:35 AM
Today is another great day for Bitcoin. Cheesy
Comparing to the last bull-run on 2017, there is one special thing on this year. 111 days passed since the last time daily candle was closed bellow 10,000 USD. This is the longest period of time in the history of bitcoin market when bitcoin could stay stable above 10,000 usd. Last time on 2017 bitcoin could stay above 10,000 only for 29 days. 111 days and bitcoin is still stable above 10K!


nice work. i have been doing closing numbers

and nov 2020 is the first month we have been above a 13000 closing for the first 16 days.

our prior longest streak above 13000 was jan 1 2018 to jan 15 2018.

tomorrow is a big day if we close above 15000 we will break the longest streak above 15000 close

dec 11 2017 to dec 21 2017 is 11 day streak

we are

nov 6 2020 to nov 16 2020 11 day streak we need to extend it.

all my indicators from mining ⛏ profitability show we may breach 25k to 30k then do a correction.

followed by a big runup in fall 2021
12413  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Research on the profitability of the main mining pools on: November 17, 2020, 03:54:05 AM
yeah that was a nice thread.  I don't feel like I want to go crazy but that thread should have should.

I put in a lot of effort to show a better way to test six pools.  Spent 20 minutes writing it up for what?

Let me gather myself a bit and wait to deal with it..

Chill out man, I know it's annoying, many good topics and comments get deleted for no reason, but the discussion should continue, I think we should do this more often, whenever an interesting/helpful topic gets deleted from the mining board we move the discussion to the next closest board, even to off-topic if we had to, use Loyce's tool to get the deleted content > https://loyce.club/archive/posts/

here is your reply which I merited before it got deleted.


I went back to the post and fleshed it out. I will do that here.

Quote from: philipma1957
Unfortunately testing methods are not good.

In order to properly test the time tested must match

Ie:  all pools need to have been tested the exact same time

six pools test from Jan 1 to sept 30

means six pieces of equipment  one on each machine.

and then to account for machine differences you rotate the machines on each pool.

week 1
1 on pool a
2 on pool b
3 on pool c
4 on pool d
5 on pool e
6 on pool f

week 2

6 on pool a
1 on pool b
2 on pool c
3 on pool d
4 on pool e
5 on pool f

week 3
5 on pool a
6 on pool b
1 on pool c
2 on pool d
3 on pool e
4 on pool f

week 4
4 on pool a
5 on pool b
6 on pool c
1 on pool d
2 on pool e
3 on pool f

week 5
3 on pool a
4 on pool b
5 on pool c
6 on pool d
1 on pool e
2 on pool f

week 6
2 on pool a
3 on pool b
4 on pool c
5 on pool d
6 on pool e
1 on pool f



the method above will account for differences in the machines
and it makes sure every pool had gear on it was fees were super high.

the method done was not making sure that each pool was getting mined on when fees were 2 btc a block.


If I had the authority I would make the people show this issue in their article.

As I look at it it clearly shows they use one machine and move it pool to pool. This absolutely guaranteed wrong results since the high fees occur only some of the time.  The pool mining on the day of high fees wins.



In the original post I went back and filled it out. loyce scraped the unedited one. I think he scapes every 15 minutes





I wanted to show a more clear methodology.

all six pools tested none stop for six months.
a machine rotation once a week means all pools have an equal share of each machine.
so pools are more correctly tested this way.

I was going to say to artemis that I disagreed with him about his concept of the fiction of pps.

never got to it.

I also replied to someone maybe the op when he asked what pools i like.

I answered I mostly used viabtc.

12414  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: We Bought 50 ACRES to Build a SOLAR POWERED CRYPTO MINING FARM !! on: November 17, 2020, 03:01:14 AM
I heard you mention in the video that doing it all in 12 months seems like a long time. I would say the opposite as it took me 10 months just to get my house built in 2018 so to do all that plus build a solar mining farm seems like a big lift in a short time.

Best of Luck! If I had the capability I would be doing something similar (except with less trees) lol.

he will have wood for the fireplace  🔥

good luck.

also be careful when you post pictures of this home and solar array
12415  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Research on the profitability of the main mining pools on: November 17, 2020, 02:49:40 AM
yeah that was a nice thread.  I don't feel like I want to go crazy but that thread should have should.

I put in a lot of effort to show a better way to test six pools.  Spent 20 minutes writing it up for what?

Let me gather myself a bit and wait to deal with it..
12416  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 02:30:04 AM

Well quite too much booty for my style.

I would prefer this one over the two of  them

https://cp16.nevsepic.com.ua/266/26552/1461910753-a0001.jpg

12417  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 17, 2020, 01:19:13 AM
Today we are poised to set a new record for btc. edit   record set!

2020-11-01  13,762
2020-11-02  13,545
2020-11-03  13,632
2020-11-04  13,908
2020-11-05. 14,937
2020-11-06  15,570
2020-11-07  15,076
2020-11-08  15,255
2020-11-09  15,364
2020-11-10  15,325
2020-11-11  15,562
2020-11-12  15,939  
2020-11-13  16,279
2020-11-14  15,982
2020-11-15  15,972
2020-11-16  16,409                    if we come in over 13,000 this will be the longest streak above 13,000 from day 1 of a month.



here is the old streak which we have already tied as of yesterday.

2018-01-16  11,800.  the 16th of jan ended it


2018-01-15  13,875
2018-01-14  13,544
2018-01-13  14,233
2018-01-12  13,652
2018-01-11  13,593
2018-01-10  14,135
2018-01-09  14,703
2018-01-08  15,103
2018-01-07  16,397
2018-01-06  16,670
2018-01-05  15,982
2018-01-04  14,806
2018-01-03  14,960
2018-01-02  14,057
2018-01-01  13,373

we are working on two other streaks


note pulled info from here


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=138109 and reworked by me to show this record breaking event (we hope for a close above 16,000 as a crash could fuck It up)

We also tied the 15000 + record which is 11 days set
in dec 2017 tied now

2020-11-06  15,570.    2017-12-21  16,033
2020-11-07  15,076.    2017-12-20  16,724
2020-11-08  15,255.    2017-12-19  17,986
2020-11-09  15,364.    2017-12-18  18,634
2020-11-10  15,325.    2017-12-17  19,110
2020-11-11  15,562.    2017-12-16  18,430
2020-11-12  15,939.    2017-12-15  17,334
2020-11-13  16,279     2017-12-14  16,351
2020-11-14  15,982     2017-12-13  16,434
2020-11-15  15,972     2017-12-12  16,854
2020-11-16  16,409     2017-12-11  16,293


so if we close at 15000 plus on the 17 we will have 2 records set and be going after the 41 day record over 12500 sec in dec 2017 to jan 2018

I will try to find out one more record the longest 10,000+ streak
12418  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: XMRig performance on Ryzen 3950X low on: November 17, 2020, 01:12:01 AM
Thanks Metroid

try 1.05 volt setting and 3.2ghz

or 1.01. volt  and 3.0 ghz

it will be easy to cool and still pass 11000 hash

did you set large pages?

and did you

ryzen master software

it will let you clock the cpu.

what is your cooler?
12419  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Why you should think twice before mining on " Nicehash." on: November 17, 2020, 01:05:59 AM
Why even suggest to mine to an online wallet from an exchange? People should use their own wallets and not anybody else's.

Mine to your own wallet, not to coinbase. That's absolutely wrong advise.

And Paypal is even worse, even mentioning is not getting anything of what Bitcoin is all about.

The only good wallet, is your own wallet. The rest is not yours, and they can do whatever they want with it.

Nicehash is garbage but everyone knows that. Also it is not a Bitcoin pool, so i wonder of the relevance of this thread here? Maybe this should go into service discussion or altcoin pools.

if you live in the usa you can do that.

but you are subject to tax reporting.

which means you have to kyc your earnings to the federal tax man even if you never cash a coin.

Since you have to report your mining you may as well mine to Coinbase ,

you don't hodl at Coinbase .

but pretend it is .01 btc weekly to Coinbase.

you cash when it gets to 0.04 btc,

half goes to mining bills
the other half you can send to a private wallet to hodl.

my advice is to be legal if you are subject to usa law.

the rest of the world can ignore me.
12420  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Number 9! Ninth altcoin thread. Back to the moon Baby! on: November 16, 2020, 09:38:11 PM
Phil, I remember you being owed by Nicehash, you might find this interesting:

In new blog post, they stated that they plan on reimbursing everyone before end of year.

Read more here:
https://www.nicehash.com/blog/post/nicehash-keeps-the-promise-and-will-fully-reimburse-its-users
Quote
Yes, users will get reimbursed in full - all 100%! Save the date, we will reimburse all the remaining funds on Wednesday, December 16, 2020!

and here:

https://www.nicehash.com/completing-the-repayment-program-instructions

I for life of me couldn't find where we talked about it like a year ago or so, so I am posting it here. Feel free to delete it or move it if this is not appropriate thread.

this belongs

 I am due about 0.015 btc


0.00164160
0.00660414
0.00478583

0.01303157 to be exact

I will let you know if they pay me in dec.
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