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12441  Other / Meta / Re: Combine merit abuse with delete post and you are good to go on: May 07, 2018, 02:32:30 PM
If the post is already merited and needs to be deleted, mods could also delete the accounts involved.

Wow. I think we need to hold our horses a bit. We may find Merit abuse that is being camuflaged by deleting the post, but accounts are not deleted unless it clearly leads to account farming uncovering.

lol, ok...
anyway, the impossibility to delete a merited post would be a good idea and would solve this problem...
12442  Other / Meta / Re: Combine merit abuse with delete post and you are good to go on: May 07, 2018, 02:07:34 PM
Maybe a solution would be to make impossible to delete a merited post.

I think this can be easily implemented.

12443  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: May 07, 2018, 01:48:10 PM

Sobre usar essa mensagem assinada para recuperar a conta, gostei da ideia, masnão fica mais organizado e fácil deixar tudo no post original ?

Nao faz diferença em qual post ficar. Basta que tenha um quote.

Como os brasileiros em geral não leem inglês, criei esse tópico aqui em português, pq muitos nem sabiam disso...
12444  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Are there any blockchain based product that are being used already? on: May 07, 2018, 12:46:21 PM
products that are ready to be used?

Yes there is.
Bitcoin is already in use. I use it a lot.

Ethereum is also in use already. You can buy cryptokitties with it lol
12445  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua conta! Post seu endereço. on: May 07, 2018, 11:38:51 AM
Só pra constar, quem não sabe como assinar, aqui tem o tutorial feito pelo shorena ha muito anos atrás: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=990345.0

Neste tópico há tutorial para assinar:

    Bitcoin Core version v0.10.0
    Electrum v 1.9.8 (& 2.5.4)
    MultiBit v 0.5.18
    MultiBit HD v 0.1
    Blockchain.info
    Blockchain.info v2
    Mycelium 2.3.0 - 2.5.2 on Android Lollipop
    Coinbase
    Bither v.1.3.7.1
    Ledger Wallet Bitcoin v.1.10.1 (thx 2 JeremyB!)
    Trezor Wallet (thx 2 JeremyB!)

E para verificação:

    Blocktrail
    Brainwallet.org
    Chain Query Alpha
    coinig.com
    Trezor (thx 2 JeremyB!)

Entendi, acabei de fazer a minha com a Mycelium.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hello I want to secure my account thats why i verify my message here my name is Silvio_Carlos_Junior and today May 7, 2018
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----
Version: Bitcoin-qt (1.0)
Address: 1N28gknXF1bACW3BgbhvVKZYw98n8JXecq

H8lybbePU5YKVPCFTdyhwLrKSQ/+dHRK7JZBGL68yUGaDu91i9Ey2+s/7Yj8s86C9XAZ1KciWtBPnlRILCRYK5I=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNATURE-----

Alguém tem algum material sobre como funciona essa assinatura feita pelas Wallets?


Quoted e verificado
https://brainwalletx.github.io/#verify?vrAddr=1N28gknXF1bACW3BgbhvVKZYw98n8JXecq&vrMsg=Hello%20I%20want%20to%20secure%20my%20account%20thats%20why%20i%20verify%20my%20message%20here%20my%20name%20is%20Silvio_Carlos_Junior%20and%20today%20May%207%2C%202018&vrSig=H8lybbePU5YKVPCFTdyhwLrKSQ%2F%2BdHRK7JZBGL68yUGaDu91i9Ey2%2Bs%2F7Yj8s86C9XAZ1KciWtBPnlRILCRYK5I%3D


Eu acho que no mastering bitcoin é capaz de ter algo. Acho que funciona de forma similar a assinatura em transações.
https://github.com/bitcoinbook/bitcoinbook
12446  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sign a message in a p2sh segwit address. on: May 07, 2018, 09:58:43 AM

Are you sure about that? I signed an address with the Electrum wallet and the receiver verified that signature with a Brainwallet tool. So I thought this was sorted out. Huh Is there something wrong with the way Electrum is doing this, because it is very important to verify the owner of the wallet, before the money is send.

Can this be manipulated?

Yes I am sure.
Nullius confirmed here in an old thread. Check it out.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2885058.msg29647827#msg29647827

I don't think it's wrong or manipulated, just non standard.  It's worthless.
12447  Local / Criptomoedas Alternativas / Re: Ledger Nano S agora suporta Bitcoin Private BTCP on: May 07, 2018, 02:26:13 AM
É até engraçado esses forks, você corre pra adquiri só pra poder ser um dos primeiros na hora de vender.
Agora uma coisa que sempre tive dúvida é se foi a própria Ledger que desenvolvel a carteira para as novas altcoins, porque lembro do caso do bitcoin gold que pediram pra todo mundo parar de usar a carteira deles de repente por falhas na segurança.

Pois é...
mas ainda tem gente que compra esse forks ou faz hold na esperança de acontecer como foi com o BCH.
na verdade os forks atuais valem tao pouco q nem vale a pena mexer...

Esse como ta na ledger é tao facil e seguro que até vale...

O BTCP tb é de um software tercerizado, nao é 100% ledger. Eles usam elctrum private... enfim, mas o site deles recomenda, deve ser seguro so pra enviar e vende e deleta.
12448  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What are some of the best sources of information on Bitcoin? on: May 07, 2018, 02:22:42 AM
Working on a school project and I'd like some great resources to help me with it. Important information I'm looking for is the 'advantages and disadvantages of Bitcoin'. I would prefer credible resources which I can cite in the project, books are great if you know any.
1. Bitcointalk.org
2. Reddit
3. Google
4. Bitcoin.com
5. CCN
6. YouTube
7. People who are into cryptocurrencies.

There are a lot of sources. These are a few that I can think of as of the moment.


Man, bitcoin.com is a BCH chiller... stay away from this website.

bitcoin.org is the real bitcoin, not bitcoin.com
I think the best way to avoid this drama is to stay away from it, and ignore everything bch related.
12449  Other / Meta / Re: Some great posters left because of the new SEC rules on social media on: May 07, 2018, 02:17:55 AM
I've said this so many times, and I hate to say it again, but I think old-timers abandoned bitcointalk because the spamminess produced by signature campaigns precludes their input from being read and responded to.  Anything of value that gets posted in sections like Bitcoin Discussion is quickly buried by the shitposting contingent, and the SEC definitely is not responsible for that.


I was thinking about why does Theymos allow these signature campaigns to continue, as they are responsible for all those spammers.

I think those signature campaigns may be bad to the forum, but good for bitcoin and crypto in general. Many people start owing crypto through this forum.
12450  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Sign a message in a p2sh segwit address. on: May 07, 2018, 01:56:42 AM
AFAIK The current version of Bitcoin core cannot sign any SegWit address.
Only Electrum and other 3rd party wallets can sign a message in a "nonstandard" way.
Means whenever the SegWit-signable update came, those signed message through Electrum can be invalid to the new standard method.
..
It is widely known in the "Stake your Bitcoin Address" Thread.


I don't think this is widely known in the  "Stake your Bitcoin Address" Thread.

Just as Sellingaccs didn't knew about it, a great part of users here doesn't know.

People are making signed messages using electrum, but they cannot be verified using any other wallet, and the method used is non-standard. I doubt more than 10% of the users in that thread know that.

I agree with the OP, electrum should advert users about it. But I doubt they will change it, and probably even when Core make a standard signature verification Electrum will keep its own verification method, just like BIP 39, as they use a completely different method to generate the recovery phrase.
12451  Other / Meta / Re: Share your thoughts : sMerit Review, Rank-Up Challenge, Signatureless Campaign on: May 07, 2018, 01:36:43 AM
I'm wondering if it would be appropriate for me to move the thread there, but at this point I'm genuinely wondering if I should even want to keep the thread going.


I was thinking about those threads recently.

They are helpful when a user needs merit. As there are many of them, someone can just make a few good posts and join all these threads to award multiple merits.

This is somehow necessary for now, as Merit Sources are still fewer than necessary and they can't see all posts that should receive merit.

There are still some users who have plenty of "free" smerit, and these kind of threads are a good way to dump these smerits.

So, I think that for now these threads are necessary. But soon they will not be necessary anymore, as we will have more merit sources in future.


If it doesn't involve a bitcoin payment then it doesn't belong in the Marketplace.

I believe we should create a child board in *off topic section and name it merit review, would you keep posting there? because it would be a totally new board with all the exposure you want.

This was the best comment by digaran I have ever seen lol. Good idea, you are improving your post quality.

Maybe this is a way to move some interesting discussions to off topic.

Or, create a child board "merittalk" or "talkmerit" whatever, to put all those merit crying and merit giveaway threads.
12452  Local / Criptomoedas Alternativas / Ledger Nano S agora suporta Bitcoin Private BTCP on: May 07, 2018, 01:06:52 AM
Agora Ledger Nano S suporta BTCP. Dá pra trocar pro btc na hitbtc.

https://support.ledgerwallet.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003294734-How-to-install-and-use-Bitcoin-Private-BTCP-
12453  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Ledger Nano S now supports Bitcoin Private on: May 06, 2018, 10:22:44 PM
Now ledger nano users can recover and sell your bitcoin private.

You can trade it for BTC in HitBTC.

https://support.ledgerwallet.com/hc/en-us/articles/360003294734-How-to-install-and-use-Bitcoin-Private-BTCP-
12454  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Proteja sua Privacidade na Rede on: May 06, 2018, 09:49:45 PM
O Snowden está a viver algures em Moscovo, e deve poder ficar lá até 2020, pelo menos. É triste quando a Rússia trata dissidentes ocidentais melhor do que um país Europeu - claro que quando são dissidentes / jornalistas Russos a causar problemas para o governo (ou melhor, para os oligarcas que gerem o país), geralmente são assassinados, por isso...

A Rússia trata os dissidentes ocidentais melhor por questões de interesse... EUA e Rússia estão de certa formas de lados opostos na ordem mundial.



Já agora, desculpa o off-topic, bitmover - se calhar deviamos levar esta parte para outro tópico qualquer. Tongue

Acho que não é off-topic não! Segue o jogo!  Grin


O autor do Wikileaks sofreu censura até de empresas de meio de pagamentos como: visa, mastercard e paypal. Conseguiu contornar os bloqueios financeiros utilizando o Bitcoin, o que foi benéfico para a organização, pois tiveram que inciar os investimentos em BTC em 2010.

Parece que mesmo assim conseguiram ter problemas em relação ao bitcoin, pelo que eu vi como eles estavam usando uma conta da Coinbase para receber todos os pagamentos, a Coinbase simplesmente congelou os fundos da carteira deles, com certeza por alguma pressão do governo.

Isso é uma lição para todos que utilizam Bitcoin.
É mais um risco relacionado a deixar o dinheiro em Exchanges.

Quando o BTC esta em uma exchange, você perde o controle. O governo ou até a própria exchange pode decidir congelar seus fundos.
12455  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash Dilemia on: May 06, 2018, 02:29:00 PM
Curious to see what people's thoughts are on this topic. There is a strong side of protesters who believe BCH and Roger Ver is hurting the overall market while others support their actions.

Overall the loud banter on the topic is not progressive for the market to grow, thoughts?

I think the main  problem is that Bcash is spreading misinformation.
Like Bitcoin.com where he tries to cheat users into buying bcash as if it were btc

The whole publicity with slugs "the real btc" or "true Satoshi vision" are misleading. I think that attitude can hurt the market because it harms people, trying to fool people into buying bcash as of it were btc.

This. Some people actually bought BCH instead of BTC as Bitcoin was listed as BCH and BTC was listed as Bitcoin Core on bitcoin.com

I mean, I'm fine with creating forks. In a decentralized ecosystem, disagreements are to be really expected. But stuff like this as done by Roger Ver? Nope. Linux Mint forked Ubuntu Linux, but the Linux Mint community isn't spreading misinformation that "Linux Mint is the real Ubuntu" or something.

Yeah this is bad especially for newcomers, who will find it a lot confusing and may be scammed into buying bch..

I think bch won't last long, lightning and segwit are real
12456  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on the Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash Dilemia on: May 06, 2018, 01:31:10 AM
Curious to see what people's thoughts are on this topic. There is a strong side of protesters who believe BCH and Roger Ver is hurting the overall market while others support their actions.

Overall the loud banter on the topic is not progressive for the market to grow, thoughts?

I think the main  problem is that Bcash is spreading misinformation.
Like Bitcoin.com where he tries to cheat users into buying bcash as if it were btc

The whole publicity with slugs "the real btc" or "true Satoshi vision" are misleading. I think that attitude can hurt the market because it harms people, trying to fool people into buying bcash as of it were btc.
12457  Other / Off-topic / Re: Awarding Merit for the highest quality threads/posts on: May 05, 2018, 11:45:46 PM
Thank you for your analysis and time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3556844.msg36379005#msg36379005
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3414598.msg35710323#msg35710323
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3317586.msg34646752#msg34646752
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3202211.msg33233707#msg33233707
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3159645.msg32662657#msg32662657
12458  Other / Off-topic / Re: Topic & Post Review (Specific Areas) - sMerit to give on: May 05, 2018, 11:37:43 PM
Thank you for your analysis and time:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3556844.msg36379005#msg36379005
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3414598.msg35710323#msg35710323
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3317586.msg34646752#msg34646752
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3285767.msg34270190#msg34270190
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3064698.0
12459  Other / Off-topic / Re: 😎 [ANN] The Utmost Epic, Totally Tubular sMerit Giveaway ~ 170 sM Available 😎 on: May 05, 2018, 11:33:46 PM
Hello, please take a look at this one.

I discovered bitcoin while studying about how to protect my privacy on the internet.

Crytpocurrencies and privacy and closely related. This way many people here care about privacy, however I still see many users in this forum who are not using basic privacy tools, like an ad block.

This simple guide is for those people.

Usually people who think they don't care about privacy say: "I don't worry about  privacy because I have nothing to hide."
When you go to the bathroom you close the door, even if you have nothing to hide.

While surfing on the internet here are a few tools that will help you protect yourself against tracking and privacy invasion.

  • Avoid any Google product. They are not to be trusted as Google will track your data to ad services.

  • Browser recommendation:
    Firefox / Brave browser / Tor Browser

  • Browser Extensions: (works even on Firefox Mobile)
    UBlock (an adblocker)
    Decentraleyes (blocks content delivery)
    HTTPS Everywhere

  • E-mail provider:
    Consider changing to a encrypted e-mail service, not U.S based
    ProtonMail / Tutanota

  • Search engines:
    I know how it's hard to not use Google. The best private alternative is Duckduckgo .
    If you find very hard to stop using Google, consider using Encrypted Google  (I really don't know if it is truly encrypted)

  • Encrypt your Android Device - Protect your music, photos, personal data that can only be read with a password.

  • Fix Windows 10 privacy configuration, to avoid Microsoft data collection.

  • Some good VPN (protects your traffic data and enables geo-restricted content):
    Proton VPN - Free version available.
    Tunnel Bear Free version available.
    Nord VPN - Free version available.
    To use full time you will need a paid plan on a good VPN service.

  • Private cryptocurrencies:
    Monero (the most popular), PIVX, Dash, Zcash, Particl, among many others.

Important note: Privacy is a never ending task, as you can always do something more. Start doing what is easier for you. There are also many other useful add-ons, programs, etc. This is just a very basic guide, as I see many people who don't even use an adblocker

If you want more information about privacy, go to https://www.privacytools.io/

12460  Economy / Services / Re: Yahoo62278 Sig & Avatar Campaign(High merit required)(OPEN) on: May 05, 2018, 06:13:22 PM
Payments were sent to those who qualified. A little bonus was added for the delay

Thank you. Really appreciate your attitude.
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